The Book Was Better: Dune Review 

Don’t worry, Dune is being made again and I’m sure the studios have this in mind this time around...

@@JaceCavacini I have some hope for it . The Director is a fan of the books and everyone involved is not making the movie out of obligation but passion including Hans zimmer who is composer on the movie.

The trailer looks really good Sooo I can’t wait for the movie

@@brettthebest3978 let's not get ahead of ourselves, because while David Lynch vase clearly smoking something hard when he made it, I'm worried the new version would be upgraded with Woke!

The book was already “woke” (I hate that f#cking word btw, it’s so cringe) so really if the movie is “woke” well it’s a good adaptation Also the director, writer and actors all love the book sooo

In this movie he charged into battle holding a space pug. That is badass!

yes

"AND COMMENCE!" God speed, Captain Professor Scrooge.

I've always thought it's more he looked about 50 when he was 30 so he caught up to how he looked then started aging again

@SpaceDreamerFr i know im late. Is it possibly a reference to the book

It seemed obvious to me that it was an alarm.

Hah! Me too.

It sounded like someone printing out a word document

***** I was waiting for someone to point that out. Yeah, you're right, but salt is also less expensive to waste than the turmeric in my spice cabinet. :P

As a cook, I have to ask: you poured that salt into a bowl, right?

Then don’t waste it. Pour it from one container to another. Also, I would think the obvious one to use would be cinnamon, but turmeric works too.

and a drug

Yeah...but going by that every other spice is only a mixture of chemical compounds...sooooo

+Sam S The Dom made the same reference in his review on Dune!!

Michael Lamere Nice XD

It actually sounds like he shouts FUS RO DAH when he uses it on Feyd.

He's the God Emperor

My brain: Don't do it. Seriously don't. Please do- Me: *DOVAHKIIN. DOVAHKIIN. NOL OK ZIIN LOS VARHIIN. WAHDIEN, VOKUL, MAHFAERAAK AHST VAL. AHRK FIN NOROK PAAL GRAAN, FODNUST VOK ZIN DRO ZAHN. DOVAHKIIN, FA HIN. KOGAAN MU DRAAL.*

Yep, I hoped for a humorous review of a decent but flawed movie, instead I got a heartfelt rant over stuff the reviewer doesn't even comprehend.

@khandwa style They're chill because nobody emotes in this movie.

@khandwa style the only one that seemed to show concern was Irulan

I was just about to make the same point. Odd that this is the second review on here I've seen that makes the same assumption.

Maybe, just maybe, the reviewer is trying to be humorous.

The sleeper will keep hitting the snooze button.

MadameTamma 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

the problem is that the only star wars movies with actual "lore" are the prequels... the original series was more about a string of "fantasy stuff" events without any explanation.

Which also give them a monopoly on anything related to space. FTL? Interplanet travel? Moon mining? Satellites, and by proxy most forms of terraforming. And a lot more. Yet by being in indirect control of society, they can survive as a parasite who will survive political turmoil and regime changes.

@@loled123 are you really a parasite if you control the one essential, morality out of the way for a second we call all agree there not nice people.

@@RomanHistoryFan476AD with how much spice they need, and without them the empire would crumble. It is a symbiotic relationship, but it is still a parasite, much like the spice itself is the deadliest poison because it only kills you if you stop taking it

@@loled123 it’s not FTL, it’s foldspace. FTL would suggest that they move while foldspace places them from one location to another instantaneously. Even with FTL, it would take months to get from one planet to the next

@@tgiacin435 Oh FFS. Look anon You are going moving lightyears, in less time than it takes for the light to move. Egro: Faster than Light. Not the meaning, but the common meaning that has entrenched itself in Sci Fi because the alternative is generation ships.

And the emperor's music sounds like a 90s printer

Well, 3D animation tools were still new, but use of it was seen as an experiment or way to show off, as if you’re saying “CHECK THIS OUT “ . It’s like when a movie does the classic slow mo matrix reference. Basically, trying to show off, like when an actor in a Japanese movie speaks English

@@KGKSkull Ik, but it’s the irony especially since this was after return of the jedi which makes it look cheap in some aspects, and the shields could’ve been a lot easier if the only showed a flash when the blades made contact

@@KGKSkull also love your Skullman PFP

Weird. I sorta agree but then why do I love Dune and totally abhor the Last Airbender? And to add to the confusion: I hate Herbert's books series and love Avatar, the last Airbender, the Animation Series.. I guess, at the end of the day, there is simply no arguing about taste.

"puts more focus on exposition and world building over character and often blowing past, writing out, or changing important plot points" So, in summary, Dune the movie is a faithful adaptation to the books

Damn, hey it's okay if you don't like Lynch's Dune, but there's no need to insult it this way.

Ian Greene You know, that's not a bad idea.

Oooooo yes. The manga is so tight and good. The movie is not mad but not as epic

I loved that movie

+crazystairs712: The film isn't based on all those 1000 pages of the manga though. It follows roughly the first two of those seven books (which I think is all that Miyazaki had finished at that point) rather faithfully. Most of the changes are not to cut down time but to either remove plot-lines that leads into later parts of the manga or solve them in different ways that work within the plot-frame of the film (the God-Warrior is a good example of this). The film's strength as an adaption lies in taking less than one 3rd of the plot and making it work as a stand alone entity with minimal change, but it never touches on many of the darker themes that only comes to the forefront later in the manga: like the horrors of war, religious fanaticism, whether or not the ends justify the means, the negative effects of using violence to solve conflicts, what one should be willing to sacrifice to save humanity, whether humanity deserves to be saved in the first place and the stronger moral ambiguity. Nausicaa in the manga is ultimately less of a clear cut "good guy" than in the film, while the villains are infinity more sympathetic and understandable. The film in comparison is much more simplistic and idealistic, "These people are doing bad things, thankfully good Nausicaa is here to stop them and make them see the error in their ways". In the manga she and the villains ultimately want the same thing, what they believe to be best for everyone, but the methods they use and the sacrifices they are willing to make to achieve that is what sets them apart. And while the sympathies is clearly placed with Nausicaa over the others, none of their approaches is show to be "the right one". They are all simply in a horrible situations where none of the possible outcomes are satisfactory. Not to say that the film is bad because it lacks these things, but to say that it encapsulates the core themes and plot of the entire manga isn't very accurate.

*****: Aye, I posted that mainly so other people who stumbled upon this wouldn't walk away with the wrong idea, Miyazaki's 'problem' as an adapter seems to be that he likes to infuse the adaption with his own interpretations and ideas. If the original is his this doesn't produce too much conflict, when the original is not it might. Although I only have Howl to base this on, not having read The Incredible Tide, The Wind Has Risen or his original Earthsea script. His Pippi Longstocking film seemed like it would be quite faithful thought, too bad that never happened.

***** Scripting begins this Saturday! XD

KrimsonRogue Must.....be...sooner....

KrimsonRogue also their where other sequal Dune Apocalypse stating xmen star James Macavoy. And its a shame I love the production design and the music the scean where they ride the sand WORM and the guitar riffs it epic X2. If their was a Remake they need to get del toro for the monsters and James Cameron for the characters their it can work and win awards.

Their was also the cartoon as well

the secret of the unicorn

LilacElf8582 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

It is Alia after all

What about the resurrected kid from the original Pet Semetery movie?

I'd love a 5 hour version.

What?

@@tylerfish2701 - Baron Harkonnen is Jessica’s biological father (but since she’s Bene Gesseret, she doesn’t really know her lineage). The Water of Life gives her access to some sort of cellular memory (it’s been a while, I don’t remember exactly what they called it), and since she was pregnant with Ali’s, Alia also possesses the knowledge. So Alia tells Harkonnen he is her grandfather, and then murders him. One big, happy family.

@@JekyViews Both this movie and the book are messed up beyond belief.

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When part two came out, I'll start spamming sso mabey we could see a 4-ways re-review bettewn dune(book) dune (80's) dune (2000) and dune (20's)

Oscar winning movie 6 times

Don't you mean the trailer? Also if you're talking about the movie itself I hope it won't succumbs to the newest dreaded Hollywood fad the Woke! Because going from ugly to dumb wouldn't be an improvement.(raw cinnamon vs sand.)

Someone has requested it, but at the moment, I do not have it scheduled.

Alright. Thank you.

KrimsonRogue any plans to review the dune mini series?

the story is not set 10,000 years in the future, it is set 10,000 years on the calendar started after the butlerian jihad. the age of the heisenberg came before that and they fell to the machines, who ruled for some time. if i remember right it is actually something more like 65-85 thousand years in the future.

Exposition is always seen as a sin by film-critic wannabes, but even some of the best movies of all time has a certain amount of exposition, because is the last option for clarifying something that HAS to be clear.

Well it got one

But its weird to use the same alarm to warn for an attack and announce the coming of an delegation.

I really liked that mini-series....Children of Dune, especially. Had a lot of faults, but not a bad adaptation.

I agree. I had hated the movie, but the Children of Dune miniseries actually drew me in, and then I watched the Dune mini series.

I hated them. They were cheap looking, and not well designed at that. They were stilted and melodramatic. They felt as hollow as Lynch’s Dune, but didn’t have incredible visuals to prop them up as Lynch’s Dune did.

I am sorry to post so late I heard that Quizatz Haderach was going to female and born in 1000 later., because Jessica wanted to give a Duke a son she disobey orders. Was the the female Quizatz Haderack born later then>

The Quizatz Haderach was supposed to be male. Able to use the powers that the Bene Gesserit had and to access the female part, but then was to be able to go to the places that were purely masculine, which opened the person who was the Quizatz Haderach to many new powers and possiblities. I sadly haven't read the later books released by Frank, so I'm not sure if the Quizatz Haderach was ultimately able to be born, but Paul ended up having the powers of the Quizatz and MORE, so I find it doubtful, but maybe.

He actually was the Kwisatz Haderach he just denied it. Later in the book he accepts it. In the sequels he is also referred to as the Kwisatz Haderach

He wasn't the Quizatz Haderach. The Lady Jessica was supposed to give birth to a female, who was then supposed to be be wed to a Harkonnen (I think Feyd). Their offspring would have been he Quizatz Haderach, assuming everything went well (failures sometimes happened). That is why Paul fighting Feyd was such a travesty for the Bene Gesserit, two lines that could have killed each other, with only Paul's sister, an abomination, and the pregnant woman Feyd had an affair with (the wife of the other could have been Quzatz Haderach), an unknown entity. Paul never accepted the role of the Quizatz Haderach, it was his son that did... who resented Paul for not taking the responsibility of the Golden Path.

Game was fun. Novel was great..... And we seldom talk about this movie.

imdb, also I really hope it's not gonna turn woke! Don't get me wrong David Lynch made an awful movie"ripping off the books' face and wearing it Hannibal style"but going from ugly to stupid wouldn't be much of an improvement.

I pretty much liked all special effects EXCEPT for the shield effect (too visible, too angular, too much). I always thought I would be better off fighting without a shield than getting distracted by such a monster disrupting my sight. That and the navigating navigator spewing light/energy/whatever - just looked amateurishly made somehow.

The story was better as it had more time to work with. The costumes and the sets however, were worse. I just wish the books would get something akin to the game of thrones series, but with an even higher budget.

+PuppetDungeon Perhaps it would help if we could see where the "future music" is coming from.

It's one of my favorites as well!

It's basically Nostalgia Critic.

that's like saying all let's players are copycats.

So what you are saying is that anyone who gets angry and does skits in their review is the nostalgia critic?

@Nate W some people do think if you a let's player you ripped off pewdiepie.

Yeah. Whats sad is it is pretty much IMPOSSIBLE to find a full 4 hour uncut version of Dune. Every time I hunted for it on VHS, and later DVD/Blu-Ray, it is ALWAYS the shitty 2 hour version.

memnarch129 I remember this was the staple of the scifi channel for the longest time, even a version I can't find had a narrator giving more details of the different houses, their positions and more.

This is the same woman who voiced the lovely animated Queen Hippolyta in Wonder Woman.

Awesome! Welcome to the Rogues Gallery! :D

Yes! There is! It is being directed by Dennis Villeneuve who directed Blade Runner 2049 and Arrival. It also has a great cast of actors and the music is being composed by Hans Zimmer (he worked on the music for Interstellar, Gladiator, Inception, and a ton of other great films) If I'm not completely wrong they plan to release it in 2020, and it will be made into two parts. If they actually manage to pull this off it looks to become one of the greatest sci-fi films of all time.

Erich Zorn You mean per movie? :P Yeah, I like a healthy challenge every now and then. That's why I started putting these Big Blockbuster Bastardizations together. Both episodes have taken me about 2 months of work!

YAY FOR ROTATING FLYING OBESE MEN !

Does it? There is some bad sets in the movie

Dito. It has been my favourite film for about 20 years now and I have watched it around two dozen times so far and I still sometimes listen to the OST while driving.

at least the 2000 dune follow the book.

Horned marten I'd consider it, though I'm gonna be honest, I liked that movie. :P

I know, its a good film but the graphic novel is significantly more detailed and tells a more flowing story, in my opinion. I am more interested your thoughts on them both.

Horned marten Haven't read the graphic novel yet, but I'm looking forward to it! :D