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Become "alpha" by _fully submitting_ to a more "alpha" man and paying him for the privilege. It's like the bully said "Give me your lunch money and you'll be like me one day."
that is why I call my friends betas, as they may one day become alphas like me and I'm just so kind and loving that I want the best for my STUPID UGLY BETA friends
@minna2911 and the most recent one as of now is complaining about her having another hair colour......her hair is black in this video. yeesh these snowflakes get triggered at people having normal coloured hair now? life must be so easy for this to be their biggest complaint
@@minna2911literally so rent free, this is so insane lmao thank you for pointing this out. i cannot imagine commenting that many times on someone i clearly hate but am also clearly in love with
Yeah, I think that would qualify as abuse. In MA, oarents torture their autistic kids by sending them to conversion therapy or even having them electroshocked as punishment for their disability instead of giving them the accommodation and empathy they need.
I know right! Like that is literally torture. The fact that the children have to go through obstacles with bear traps, boards with nails, and barbed wire!?!? While blindfolded!? It’s absolutely insane and disgusting how they think that this is okay! And for fathers to actually put their sons through that is horrifying.
@@olg.__ "seems like it's safe" lmao the fuck kinda drugs are you taking? BEAR TRAPS? Also, talking about one issue in one place doesn't mean they don't care about something in another place? Like can you imagine coming onto this video like "OH MY GOD THIS SUCKS anyway did you hear abt those nature boot camps" like?? what are you on abt bro
“No longer acts like a child” actually means “we’re going to traumatize your child so that they prematurely lose their childlike idealism and become cynical like the rest of us”
@@darkgardener9577I know this may sound like a bit of a personal question, but were you ever beaten up or angrily berated at by your parents because of little things growing up? Because if you were, it can warp your perception on what you think is just “growing up” and what is severe childhood trauma. If this is the case, I suggest you go to therapy before raising kids to not have the cycle of abuse happen again. Childhood trauma IS real and there are resources to help people with it if you are in need. There is no shame in talking to a psychologist.
@@darkgardener9577 Exercise and toucher isn’t the same, this is toucher. Also they don’t get enough sleep which is not a healthy structured schedule. Being yelled at constantly is also more degrading than you might think, especially for a teen who is still trying to figure out life. Being screamed at for a small mistake will make teens afraid to make mistakes, when mistakes are nearly nessicary for learning.
I once heard an ex-evangelical woman talk about her abusive father going to one of these "self-improvement" boot camps at the recommendation of their church leader. When he came back, he was no less abusive, but now he had the suffering he paid to go through at that camp as a new weapon to use against his children and wife. Whenever they would cry or get angry at him for how he treated them, he would pull out the vanity dog-tags that the boot camp gave him and yell that they didn't understand what pain was, none of them were going to belittle him or diminish him anymore because he had "been through too much", etc. It seemed that he had essentially purchased a traumatic experience to hold over his family members heads, to diminish their own suffering and fear of him. Maybe it's uncharitable, but I do wonder how many similar cases these camps create. These men are essentially paying to be screamed at, belittled, threatened with violence, and emotionally broken down by an authority figure, and are told that it is a positive character-building experience to be treated this way. How many of them then go home and become that authority figure to their families--who did not pay for the privilege, and can't leave?
Imagine seeing how Jesus treated women and children in the Bible with such love and respect and gentleness and walking away from that thinking power and dominance is God’s plan for men over their families.
@@boopdoop2251 Ooof.. you hit the nail on the head. This is what it's like in my religion too. The religious symbol-person is such a kind soul who treats family with gentleness and love. Meanwhile many men practicing my religion don't follow that example, and they just want to exert dominance because "that's how God wanted it to be". 😢
Keeping people cold, miserable, hungry and sleepless while yelling insults at them and taking their money? Wooww... That definitely does not sound like brainwashing or psychological manipulation at all!
At least the actual military will tell you it sucks and isn’t gonna help you, this is just a bunch of people that didn’t make the cut so they thought they’d steal peoples money
I wonder what those men think they'll get out of it. They will still look the same, do the same job, the only thing that will be different is having 18k less and depending on their mental state additional trauma. If they couldn't get any women before this, they won't have any more luck after it.
It’s basically a marine who never deployed taking out all his anger about how much he hates his life on a bunch of random people, and also he managed to rope his veteran friends into helping him do it. This dude is yelling because that all he wants to do there is more to training someone than just screaming at them 24/7, these guys are spending $18,000 and aren’t getting taught anything.
I’m not sure why we’re ragging on the instructor. Imagine if you could monetize your major malfunction. Mine would be a camp where you never see anyone but a single friendly cuddle cat or dog. It’s your dime. You make small, good meals for yourself and have no projects waiting or guilt for not being productive. Money please! The man is a genius… in need of intensive therapy.
Getting yelled at, called worthless, made to grovel, being deprived of sleep, and psychologically tortured? I don't need to pay 18k for that. I go through that 5 days a week and get paid a salary for it.
Crazy how they even have a program for small boys. Protect kids from the dangers of a colored flag, with the real life dangers of the homo erotic dom camp.
@@mlorpf I’m mocking the “alpha males”. Most of them are homophobic themselves and by suggesting that they get sexually frustrated when another man looks at them I’m calling them what they dislike.
Personally the hover board got me most. He's holding speeches like anyone on the ground hears more than "...put your hands..." before he's too far away again
I was reminded of when I found out my head teacher had thrown a chair in a fit of anger at a having a bad job interview, was very hard to take her seriously after that. 😅 My dad was assistant head at another school and was on the interview panel when she applied for a job there. Her interview didn't go too well and as she walked through the car park on the way out she picked up and threw a chair that was being used to reserve a parking spot. Only reason my dad saw is cause he was on his way to the toilet and looked out the window, was a pretty good sign to him and the other interviewers that not hiring her was the right choice.
Yeah that's absolutely ridiculous, like if u want to become a strong man that means well just go to the gym or you know join the military. Like wasting 18k on this dumb meaningless camp is absolute insanity to me. 😅😅😅
@@meowbahhyt oh wow, are you being serious? Because if so, that's really something. If you _are_ being serious: it's not really about the price, it's about what they're spending it on lol. An "alpha bootcamp" is worth negative money (meaning you'll almost certainly come out the other end worse off than when you started).
They're rich middle aged men who have completed the main missions in life. Now they're doing the side quest where they pay $18k to get screamed at by bro vet grifters in a parking lot.
I didn’t hit puberty until I was 14 ish so I can’t imagine being prepubescent while getting screamed at by a middle aged cornball for not being “manly enough”
@@aadil4750 i already got screamed at by my single mother for not being manly enough when i was a prepubescent 13 year old, it was rather awful and turned me into an even more emotionally vulnerable person
The process to becoming an alpha, a leader of the pack, a big bad boy who don't take no guff from betas, involving nothing but being insulted and following the orders of someone more intimidating than you is so hilariously ironic
@@plant3341they gon think they can act like the instructor after the course. Wonder how long it’ll take their wives (if they even got any 😅) to divorce them (or how long for their children to resent them). I give 2 months top 😂
100% this is training them to be submissive to male authority figures. Which makes sense given that the feudal knights were expected to lay down their lives for their lords and their expected function in life was enforcing another man’s power. Which is by definition NOT what an “alpha” does
@@letsdoodlesomethinghome3404 Nah, they're not getting children anytime soon, although, you can't rule out the possibility of a vulnerable woman sticking around because she honestly believes that that's what she deserves or wants until it's toxicly late.
Which is funny, because at least here in Australia joining the military would be 100x better then this “program” you can get fitter and do actually good things without being tortured
@@ThePrinceofkindfulness joining the military anywhere would be more productive than this, this is absolutely just budget selection screening a thing units do to see how badly people want to be there before they begin long training programs it serves literally no other purpose beyond rejecting people who can’t take it there’s a reason instructors immediately drop the act after your actually into the learning portion. Therefore it achieves literally nothing for this group 😂 all you’d find out is after 2 days of fuck all sleep you can’t function and are out 18 grand... cool
@@meowbahhyt Your comments take away from your time, and you have been knee deep in this comment section. Stop acting obtuse just because you have nothing sensible to say. It's time to go outside
If you want to be miserable, cold, hot, hungry, no sleep, getting yelled at constantly, insulted and depending on chew and Monster to keep you up, join the military and the good thing is, they pay you to go through all of that misery.
Them saying "flip the switch" is actually really fitting. Because when then turn ON the alpha mentality they also turn OFF every woman in a 100 mile radius.
See the false bravado and narcissism attracts certain types of girls who have daddy issues, the money keeps em around. Then their narcissism just fuels each other forever with Chris Brown/Amber Heard type toxicity all mixed in
You can tell I'm cheap when the first thing I thought was, you could definitely do this at home for free. If you want to lift heavy things, not sleep, and find a friend to yell obscenities at you... do it in the comfort of your own home! Don't pay these grifters to ruin your life, ruin it yourself!
@@meowbahhytmy guy, you’re giving her money by hate watching her. You realise we can all see you have 153 comments on this channel, and that one of them is positive (or you’re bad at sarcasm).
@@marianafranco5508 multiple military branches accepts people up to 39 years old as of this year, except the army at 35 yrs old max, marines max at 28, and coast guard max at 31.
Given that the person who discovered the alpha behavior and wolves, actually debunked his own study, it seems like exactly something an insecure, aggressive Alpha would do. Lol.
@lorcha1237 no that's only if they are bad in character. Bad children even if raised well, still will disown their parents. This type of abuse will definitely cause the good sweet kids to disown and sue parents.
@@charminglady2011 character comes from the way you are raised (aka environment) so I don't really think you have a point. Look at twins for example, they've been treated the same all of their lives (even wearing the same clothes), go to the same places, etc. And if you've ever known twins they tend to have very similar personalities
So couple things ... 1)Join the army and you can get paid $18000 a year for going through all the same crap 2) if the army rejects you thats a sign you need therapy, not boot camp 3) 'serial entrepreneur ' is definitely code for 'serially going out of business'
Interestingly, despite the fact that the program is *clearly* inspired by the military (or rather, what people who've seen Full Metal Jacket THINK the military is), AND Keuilian clearly styles himself off the military (his 'uniform' contains a blacked-out left-facing flag, etc.) his about me is pretty clear he never served: "They’re the only ones that can save you!’ I thought to myself, OK, I’ll go apply.” The military wouldn’t take him, but he set about to prove her wrong. He did. [...] When the military wouldn’t take him, “I knew I had no other path, so I took the path of physical fitness."
Lmao holy shit imagine taking your son to this nightmare because you are too lazy to become his little league coach or take up a hobby with him. When I was a troubled teen my father started playing Halo to bond with me, it changed my life for the better.
No, see, your positive experience with your father is what the opposition wanted, it made you weak. If your dad loved you at all he would have paid $36,000 for some emotionally unstable tool bags to berate and insult you, he set you up for failure. You need to FLIP THE SWITCH
Men- Being abused isn't okay. It won't make you stronger and more of a man. Being shamed for existing and ignoring your body's needs won't make you tough, it'll make you traumatized and miserable
personally anyone willing to spend $18K on this shit is not very bright mentally so that’s on them i fear 🤷🏽♀️ i only feel bad for the kids in the situation
I was in the army and the drillmasters were such encouraging & respectful people, disappointing them caused me anxiety. We all felt like that, the female and male recruits. My own parents were totally useless and self righteous, I never respected them because they never gave me any reason. But in the army everything changed, I started to trust other human beings again and actually cared for their wellbeing. After the training most of us went back to uni for more degrees, but we are still in touch, I haven't spoken to my own 'parents' in decades and I couldn't be more happy about it. It doesn't matter what you do to heal your emotional wounds, therapy, motivational training, online meditation lessons ... at least you shouldn't end up a bigger dipsh*t than you already are, blaming total strangers for your trauma and your own shortcomings in life won't help you to outgrow your problems.
I hate the fact that we romanticised the idea of buds and grueling special forces courses, they're genuinely meant to induce suffering and get the most tough men into a high highly skilled unit, and even then it's for a short time and you don't get many chances to recycle. I maybe overstepping here but I don't think most vets of tier one units would throw someone into the suck as their first self improvement solution
And don't forget the huge issue of SA within the US military. Not to mention all the war crimes they commit and have committed. And Chad mentioned "all of the instructors are " 'ex-military' and 'ex-cops'", so that just tells you what kind of people are in the US military and police force. Too many US Americans are delusional.
I went to military myself (Finnish Conscription so not really put ehh...) and there they especially focus on good atmosphere and everyone's well-being. Some lousy-ass reporter made a tweet where he complained how army is too soft and will produce "weak men" to which was replied by General Marshall (yes that guy uses Twitter) begging a question: Which one is more loyal? One who's been facing hazing or the one who's been treated with respect? That is a General I'm ready to hell and back with. Not like these egoistical assholes who get their kicks for bullying and hazing these men who just want to improve on themselves
@@lisaanimi I mean the Russians were apparently creating strong men then if that reporter's logic held true, yet I've seen the russian state almost collapse twice within the span of a year
People forget that medieval knights were very eloquent and soft-spoken gentlemen. They were born from honored houses of nobility and we're often part of the small portion of the population who could read and write. This looks more like Spartan training than anything else
the fact that EVERY aspect of this man’s philosophy is IDENTICAL to jigsaw from the saw franchise is so funny to me. “rebirth through suffering…what some would consider torture i consider and opportunity” feel like DIRECT QUOTES from john kramer
Of course, alpha male are no different the those people who quote the matrix and talk about taking the blue and red pill as a philosophy. They definitely would take jigsam philosophy at heart
I felt bad enough that there are men who feel insecure enough to torture themselves to prove their masculinity but it felt so much worse learning they were abusing their sons. Edit: Also, thank you for the knight dance. That made it feel better.
You realize that military bootcamps, wars and shit were always a normal thing across history? And somehow men back then could handle much more horrible and traumatizing shit than they can today which is quite thought provoking.
I assure you men didn’t just shrug off the horrors of war. There’s a reason the Veterans of WW1 were called the lost generation and why Veterans of WW2 don’t often talk about their service. Band of Brothers is a TV show based on the writings of Captain Winters of Easy Company. It very clearly documents the mental effects of the War as they went through it and real life interviews at the start of the episodes with the men of Easy Company clearly show it’s lasting effects throughout their life. These things are traumatising and people who go through them shouldn’t be considered more Masculine for it. They should be recognised as victims and thanked for sacrificing their mental and physical health for their nation and then helped to recover.
@@notrius7754 yeah but the general wasn't some random asshole who received dubious therapy and then turned it around and tortured other people. And you also say this like the military doesn't also actually torture and brainwash their own into thinking it's acceptable to kill fellow human beings. All veterans probably have some form of mental illness from the service they did. That's not proof of their masculinity. Violence is never a concept to use to amplify your own masculinity. There are so many other better ways to be a good man than to learn how to kill people and let yourself get brainwashed into becoming a tool of the military industry.
@@notrius7754Men back then were fucked up tho, most war veterans are traumatised and have problems living a normal life. They went through worse things than what men do today but that doesn't mean they handled it well. Military camps made them physically stronger but also colder and more cruel which is good for war but not when you're trying to be a happy, social human being with a nice family. If men wanna become strong they should just try to go to the gym and maybe seek out help for their mental health.
@@niccix_ Okay but then how do you explain the fact that statistics show that men back in the days when they would often get drafted for war had much larger families, were less lonely and more connected socially, were more happy and satisfied in life (depression rates were lower, also there are some statistics that include general happiness rates raging from somewhere around the 1940s till 2021 IIRC) they had much more children and shit, basically a good 95% of them accomplished thier life goals and lived an accomplished and satisfying life, they also were much more responsible, the last generation to truly fight a war (the greatest generation) also was the last generation with actually good politicans that cared about thier nation and would do as much as possible to make it prosper, all the other generations, like the baby boomers whom most of never been to a war are on the other hand rather corrupt individuals, you get corrupt people like Biden or all of the Clintons, or you get stupid and arrogant people like Bush. Basically how is it that things like depression, anxiety, loneliness, infertility and virginity in young men are becoming common only after they stopped going to wars?
The fact that men are willingly paying thousands to put themselves through ACTUAL ABUSE just to feel “manly enough” is honestly very depressing. Putting children through that as well is absolutely vile.
“I did everything i could to turn my son into the man he should be, but now he hasn’t spoken to me in over a decade, I just don’t understand how the world could have turned him against me like this”
this genuinely makes me so sad. how many young boys have been subjected to this abuse because their fathers think they need it somehow??? i cant imagine what those kids are going through
Those same boys are probably the one who comments "but guys have it harder then girls cause men can't cry" in every post and video about women r4p3 and abuse victim 💀
@@adrenalineactivateThat’s always been such a dumb propaganda talking point for misogynists. Women and girls get so much shit if they express any emotion other than reserved pleasantness. If women or girls are excited about something, they’re mocked. If they don’t laugh at something that’s not funny, they’re called rude. If they’re just existing, they’re told to smile. If they sound unhappy while articulating themselves, they’re told to calm down. If they’re angry (without being violent or aggressive), they’re called crazy. Men get to express a lot more emotion without people giving them shit. The biggest difference is the friend groups. Men and boys make fun of their friends for expressing emotions other than anger. Women and girls tend to be supportive and kind. If men and boys want more emotional support, then start giving more emotional support. It’s not rocket science; hell, I figured it out.
I love the cat arm reaching out from under the door in the background at 11:30. Yeah this is some crazy stuff wow . thanks for shedding some light on this
I’m mostly just surprised that two dozen grown men had $18,000 each and they chose this over therapy, a vacation, a gaming rig, a new vehicle, down payment for a house, investing, or a trainer in a gym, etc.
In my state, $18,000 is enough for a 9% downpayment on a $200,000 FHA home loan and is likely enough for all the closing costs of a $200,000 USDA home loan (which does not have a minimum downpayment requirement but does have closing costs). It's also WAY more than enough to buy a reliable used car for driving to work (so you can make money). If a "real man" is supposed to be financially responsible so they can provide for a family, these guys aren't "real men".
I went on a survival course recently where I was probably the least experienced there, and the other older survivalist dudes coached me how to make a fire with sticks and shit, giving me encouragement and tips and stuff, and it was one of the best moments of my life. That was positive masculinity, how they didn't let me give up on myself and believed in me and recognised the difficulty and did what they could to guide me. This is not that.
@@FaridaElgendy-wv8nm SOrry, I badly phrased it. I meant the goobers that went to get yelled at for 72 hours paid for basically a torture, not this guy's experience. His is pretty wholesome.
@@anitachamberlain3391 military boot camp is probably way better than this because: a: the reason they do all that berating is to break you down and build you back up this “boot camp” forgets the entire build you back up part. B: boot camp instructors have gone through the same training so they know how hard to push you.
i bet a decent amount of the pepole here are there cause there parent's sent them there to "fix them" either cause they came out as gay, or transgender. all the other's are just fucking idiot's or wouldn't be able to make it into the military on there own.
Yeah, the whole point of basic is to break down everyone's ego, teach you how to work as a unit, and teach basic military skills to establish a solid foundation for your specialized training, AIT in the army-no clue what the other branches call it. I think these for profit "boot camps" kinda understand the what while completely missing the why.
@@akiraeatsguitarpicks491 they're a troll. They have like, no exaggeration, almost 200 comments on her videos trying to get engagement. If you click on the replies to any other comment it's very likely they'll be there lol
It's literally the mentality the US military has been working on breaking for the last 2 decades but vet bros like the dude in the video think it's just everyone else going soft so it hard to get them to understand
@@RiorozenHumans also develop by learning from the past, by not repeating those mistakes. By forcing someone to suffer because “I had to suffer back in my day!” you’re not helping the next generation, you’re just being spiteful. By this reasoning we still should die from starvation and cold in winter because by doing so the strong survives and the weak dies, nice.
Tbf this is a very old (and dumb) idea that suffering is liked to gaining moral virtue. You find it it religious dogma (the purgatory for example). And related to the "alpha" online culture it's just another toxic ideal of masculinity. In reality : suffering is nearly always bad, sometime, suffering in the case of punishment can be useful and therefore good, but only as a way to dissuade to continue doing bad stuff, or as a way to learn the hard way (for examle, you trashed a wall, and you are forced to wash it back) If people really want to improve themselve : there are many sensible ways to do it, therapists & doctors can help fix issues, diet, sports/gym, finding a hobby, self-development lessons (about gaining confidence, being bettter organized), actually socializing with people, learning new skills. i mean, they would probably gain way more by doing anything esle, like joining a cooking club, buy a gym or public pool membership or litterally anything, anything would have a better impact on their life (either by increasing their mental health, their physical fitness, their social skills, their knowledge & practical skills, etc) than spending 18k on some macho scam.
As a 15 y/o guy, this is honestly so disgusting to me. Not even mentioning stripping your child of the valuable struggles of being a teenager, it’s also just incredibly unhealthy to tell them to be a big macho guy while they’re just trying to get their first fucking kiss. I’m absolutely the type of guy to be strong and “manly”, hell I box for fun and go to the gym every day consistently, but I was blessed with an amazing father that taught me that while strength is important, you need to be kind, compassionate, and honest with yourself about your emotions. Because of that, I’ve noticed that compared to other men I know, I’m far more relaxed, confident, and understanding with others. Not everyone has a present father, so to waste your presence with your son on something as frankly childish and weak-minded as this, basically telling someone else to do the dirty work for you, that’s unforgivable imo.
Thank you for this comment, it was very refreshing to see! You're such a mature and empathetic person and the world definitely needs more people like you and your dad.
I just wanna be in the timeline where the scientist who theorised the whole alpha wolf theory thing realised it was completely incorrect before it was popularised. He's worked over the years to inform how completely wrong he was, i feel bad for him tbh.
What's more ironic about that is that some that believe in that type of hierarchy that "There can be only one alpha", it's very hostile and Alpha Females can't Exist because no more than 1 can exist. There are other types similar in which Alpha Males and Alpha Females exist and tend to find one another, i.e Power Couples, and Several Power Couples supporting each other form larger packs / societies. The 1st type is similar to the Toxic "Worship-style" Relationship, in which one must be the Idol and the Other is a mindless obedient beta.
Honestly that’s a better universe bc all the sexy abo stuff can still exist in the bdsm AUs, while, oh wait no, toxic masculinity also wouldn’t go away if the terms went away, stuff like this will just be called “become a real man” camp or some shit instead
just a heads up: put slashes between the letters in a/b/o because some people have pointed out that without the slashes it is a slur for aboriginal people
The whole alpha beta thing is based off of wolves in captivity. It's a perfect allegory for these men. Dogs trapped in a mental prison of their own design.
@@sjsomething4936 eh, I mean I kinda get it. Maybe it's just cause I went to Catholic school and that shit kinda messes you up (not like that), but I can totally see how a lonely, insecure young guy might end up going down that path. I mean none of it _actually_ makes any sense, but I can see how it might make sense to someone in a more vulnerable headspace... hopefully that makes sense lol
@@idontwantahandlethough yea, cults don't target stupid people, they target lonely people, wich sucks, but you can't help someone who doesn't want you to. At the end of the day they signed an that's that. I'm more concerned for the kids here. There's no way of knowing if they actually wanted this shit, and probably not honestly.
Some years ago, my girlfriend paid around $16,000 to go to a “finishing school” for women, in which she learned how to properly appraise and appreciate artwork, proper posture, and how to properly eat a banana (with a knife and fork, which she still does today). She refused to accept it when we told her that it was a scam, and said that she was “increasing her worth as a woman” despite being only 15-16 at the time. I can confirm that this “alpha male boot camp” is even more stupid than that. Even the finishing school taught somewhat useful skills. This is just some masculinity cult that practices psychological torture and hazing for profit under the guise of self improvement. I mean, from all of the b-roll, it genuinely looked like a Soviet labour camp.
proper posture is legit though. it's the difference between a graceful woman walking into a room turning heads and a sack of potatoes with neck and back issues.
Soviet labour camps at least produced something. Mining, refining resources, farming etc. This camp is just a bunch of dudebros rolling around in the mud.
@@hello-ii5lh what do u mean wait it's been mainstream since the 00s. "buy this ___, and u'll be the strong, independent girlboss u were always meant to be"
Man: gets emotionally abused by his father -> gets away from his abusive father, overcomes his trauma and earns confidence -> now thinks the abuse was what made him confident -> becomes abusive Some men are living in a perpetual loop of stockholm syndrome
literally what happened between me and my own dad. he was severely abused by his parent when he was growing up, and tried to continue that cycle with me and siblings because he was convinced that it was good parenting and that not only did we deserve it, but that it would make us better in the end. my mom on the other hand was also abused by her father, but tried everything in her power to raise her children with kindness and not let the cycle continue to the next generation. she would always stand up for us and do whatever it took to protect us and make sure we were ok, and obviously dad didn't like that very much. i'm an adult now and i haven't spoken to my father in years, and honestly don't plan on changing that any time soon because from what i've heard he hasn't changed a bit. luckily my mom, all of my siblings, and i are doing great now; meanwhile dad is just as miserable as he was before and wonders why his kids don't speak to him.
@@negligible_realityIt always weirds me out that abusive parents are dumbfounded that their kids won’t speak to them. Truly, they seem baffled by all the reality of their abuse. Me (in family therapy): Well, that was when you gave me a bloody lip. My mother: What?! I-I did…that would…I’d have to hit you in the face to do that! Me: …you did. Man, I didn’t even want to talk about the child abuse during family therapy. I just wanted her to stop treating me like shit now that I was an adult. It took a couple of months but she finally stormed out of family therapy; we haven’t spoken since-it’s been years. But I’m genuinely glad to hear that your mom is awesome and you as well as your siblings are benefitting from your mom’s awesomeness :) I find other people’s healthy parent-child relationships to be really healing. It’s like an affirmation that parents can (and should) treat their kids like actual people who deserve dignity and respect.
@@negligible_reality I relate so much for the mom. Mine was different though. She would never stand up for me, because her abuse made her extremely passive to a fault. She wanted to avoid conflict at all costs, so she just ignored it and pretended everything was ok. But she was very kind and never wanted to be like her own mom.
Instead of teaching males to NOT be angry and aggressive, they are teaching the opposite. And they are choosing to do this, nobody is forcing them to spread this toxicity. "Men are their own worse enemies", uno reverso, ay?
the squire program is so disgusting. imagine being such a horruble excuse for a father that you send them to a TORTURE CAMP. and you spend thousands of dollars on that????
i literally wanna cry for those little boys just trying to exist in the world. this is literal child torture. why can’t our young boys just be taught that who they are and how they feel matters?
@@AlasadgFeelings are always there. If you don’t know what you’re feeling, the feeling will take the wheel. So it very much matters to know what it is you’re feeling if you want to come close to being rational.
@@AlasadgOkay… even if that was true, you can’t honestly be saying the solution is just to repress all feelings forever. Somehow that doesn’t exactly sound healthy.
literally the 1st thing i thought when they mentioned how much this damn thing costs. its GOT to be fetish, theres no other way anyone would wanna be here
"A father and son experience, that will be remembered forever." Yea... That's called trauma 💀 Edit: There are some bad fucking takes in the replies y'all. Don't even bother going down there, seriously.
@@vixxie_dust I mean I thought it was clear that I was joking. But yeah, I guess people do really think like that nowadays so it's becoming harder to tell the difference between a complete imbecile and someone like me who is just being sarcastic. The internet truly has broken people's brains... Sad times
My uncle forced me thru the squire program. I soon found out I was going to high school with the founders son. He was a year or two younger than me but I met him right around the “devious lick trend”. Let me tell you the amount of shit that kid bragged about stealing or breaking. Rich families are insane.
By coincidence, does he live in a Low Income Housing Enviroment designated under the government name "Section 8" ? Does he and a group of his allies control areas of this section to run his illigitimate buisness? Do they possess unregistered firearms? mind-altering inhibitors? and does he only use cash for financial transactions?
@@daveidk Translation: “Does he live in the hood and is apart of a gang?” I don’t think so, this guy mentioned that he’s rich so he’s probably not in the hood or apart of a gang also he mentioned that this was in like high school.
I was in something called Young Marine Academy. Kind of like military school. Very similar, I was yelled at and called names as a 10 year old by grown men in their 30s and 40s for not knowing the answers to questions and for making eye contact. They had a rule against eye contact with anyone of a higher rank than you. And they used physical training (PT) as punishment running, push-ups, etc, while being yelled at. I still have trouble maintaining eye contact as an adult. Thanks for the childhood trauma.
@@xysarenottheprize Sleep is for pussies who have been brainwashed by social media and the leftist agenda. True men stay up all night doing push-ups and go through the day with a water bottle with pure caffeine in it and raw meat.
I'm a big dude 6'3 278 and I was very depressed I had two options either therapy or boot camp and I chose therapy. Now I'm about 256 working out regularly reading books regularly going out with friends talking and listening to them and I'm volunteering to teach kids soccer. It's not hard to be a role model. This bootcamp is exactly why therapy is always the best option.
Hey, I'm proud of you, dude, you did and are still doing a great job! If you ever backslide a little, don't lose hope, because now you know you have the ability to move forward, you've proved it to yourself and everyone else.
People be forgetting that knights were soft as heck. Writing poetry, singing love songs - it was a huge theme in knighthood that actually, men are the ones in tune with their emotions.
Yeah... These are the same kind of dudes that throw a fit and claim it's a lie that Roman marble statues were painted bright colors. They portray Roman male culture as the "most alpha", when it was the gayest era ever.
@@TheybyBaby Boys were encouraged to have sex with their professors that's how gay it was. They were so hateful of woman in Rome they thought the most alpha thing was to penetrate another man be it battlefields or married. Like the manliest thing you could do was penetrate a guy.
The difference between this and the military is that if you’re running, the instructor is running too, if you’re doing an obstacle course they’re right next to you the entire time, they might be yelling at you the entire time you’re doing it but it creates an idea that they aren’t there to torment you, they are training you and they want you to succeed
Not sure what military you went into, my experience was a bunch of failed, talentless nobodies who couldnt never succeed in the real world and now thought they had the right to push me around because of a little sticker on their shoulder
My husband, (who's in the military, so he got paid to go through this shit, basically), is really dedicated to male mental health, especially for military men and other men who think that therapy is for "pussies." This shit makes me so sad because these men are disenfranchised and depressed. Men in the US are killing themselves in staggering numbers, and the rate of military men who kill themselves lead me to believe that boot-camp is not the cure. Based on what my husband saw in his peers, I bet it makes the suicidality much worse (though there isn't necessarily empirical evidence to suggest as much). Just. Ugh. This is so sad. Those men need and deserve real help. They're desperate. It breaks my heart.
Exactly. I don't why they thought it was a good idea to copy the structure of military training (except worse) when the biggest issue for military personnel are suicide and sexual harassment/assault.
I can see why this would appeal to people. I kinda got forced into doing something _slightly_ similar to this boot camp by my parents, and it’s true, making it through a bunch of tough experiences really does make the day to day struggles feel easier to deal with. But the main difference is that the “modern day knight” camp is built to make you ignore your suffering and squash down your emotions, when instead, the true way for tough experiences to be used to help you should be by giving you a feeling of “if I could get through that, I can get through this too!” In the camp I went through, the instructors were strict (and absolutely terrifying), but they never insulted anyone, they toned things down when they noticed anyone struggling, they never shamed anyone for lagging behind or saying no to things, and they congratulated and encouraged everyone after making it through the day. I’m a scrawny, underweight girl who doesn’t do any physical activity beyond picking up a pencil, but never once did the instructors EVER make me feel bad when I ran out of breath or fell behind. So, while that camp was torture for me and I would never do anything like that again in my life, now that it’s over, I can say that it had a genuinely positive impact on me and my self esteem! Because I did something I thought I wouldn’t be capable of, and I was encouraged to push through it until the end! Not pushed down by instructors on a power trip who intentionally try to make people quit, like the ones in this video specifically admitted was their goal. It’s bad enough for the men and especially the children who made it all the way through this video’s camp, but imagine how bad this is for the people who were broken down until they quit. All they’re left with is the feeling that all the degradation they received is true, the belief that they’re too weak to overcome challenges, and a massive hole in their wallets. This isn’t how things should be. I’m rambling a ton now, but what I was trying to say is that even if there’s some merit to the basic concept of this, the way it’s executed takes away all the good of it and causes only harm. If anyone is feeling tempted by this camp, go train for a marathon instead! Or go to the gym! Do some difficult feats where you can see visible improvement in your self so you can keep yourself encouraged. Being put down and screamed at and pointlessly tortured won’t ever do any good.
I love this comment! Thanks for sharing your experience! I’m also a small girl, not really underweight but I don’t weigh much. Also not so physically active. So it’s encouraging to hear that you were able to accomplish this and benefit from it! Good job.
Gotta agree, doing something like a marathon or tough mudder is similar for that feeling of having conquored something immense and having that experience build your self esteem. Most of those are also waaay cheaper to join. You could even do a zombie run if you wanna make it more fun.
Bro, you need real people to talk with... But also yes: Working out and overcoming obstacles makes people feel good and more confident. Shocking, truly.
I agree mostly, but some people thrive under negative reinforcement and not everyone thinks like you. The fact that your apparently a scrawny undersized girl after going through this camp probably shows that you couldve used less positivity 🤷♂️
GIRL NO, know that you'te smarter than these dweebs and would use that 18k to do something infinity more fulfilling and useful than proving yourself to a bunch of musty middle aged troglodytes 💀💀
or even worse, as trans. imagine coming out as a girl to your father and he sends you to one of these torture camps to force you to become more masculine. :[
Sorry to break it to you but if you willingly pay $18k to be treated like this for 75 hours straight you don’t want to “man up”… you just have a degradation kink
If you are considering going to one of these camps. Just join the military. You will get the same experience, but you won’t have to pay for it, and you will get a job out of it.
“Learn to control your emotions” *Yells at people, insulting them, and throws things around like a toddler throwing a tantrum for not getting the toy they want* Yep… they definitely have control over their emotions alright
