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Being shirtless in front of a room while trying to give a speech/pitch, and then having everyone laugh at you is a complete nightmare scenario. Can't believe that this is real.
And that comment about "it doesn't bother you enough"? Like no dude, I'm not self-conscious about my physique, I just don't appreciate people thinking they can touch me for no discernable reason
the "it doesnt bother you enough" to me is such a dumb comment bcuz there could be soooo many reasons why he didn't react the way andy thought he should. i feel influenced by being in front of everyone with a presenter he respected enough to even be there
@@herodoesstuff I really want to see what he'd say if he asks a person to take their shirt off, and that person says 'I have Cushing syndrome. My body produces too much cortisol so it puts fat on my midsection, face and shoulders.'
I bought a ladder from a salesman once. It looked like a cheap aluminum thing and the price was low so I was gonna pass on it. But the salesman was about 450 pounds. He unfolded it, climbed up to the top, and stood on the little paint shelf. If that had been some slim guy with abs I would have shrugged it off, but that absolute unit of a man proved beyond a doubt this was a great ladder without a word. If they required their salesmen to have abs, he would have lost my business.
I'll be honest, as a woman who is quite short and slim, I feel more welcome to buy from a salesman who is hospitable and likely over the average weight. It seems like every time I meet the young and muscled up salesmen like the guy here, they automatically see me as a target and start pressuring me. Meanwhile, with more gentle and helpful salesmen, they make me feel like I'm family. The salesmen like this one just me feel like a child and come across as embellishing the truth to get a sale.
@@lildemonchan7690almost like being nice to people is more conducive to conducting business than being a pressuring predatory asshole. I can’t wait for the day these guys solve that.
To be fair, there's a presentation style I look for in different salespeople. I would want someone selling their gym personal training services to have abs or a strong core to show they practice what they preach and will be able to hold me accountable toward my goal of building muscle. And they also have to be personable. It goes case by case.
@@aaliyahfoster2705 I don't think it's necessary "to be fair" to this guy. I would imagine with the exception of the very niche example you gave, most salespeople you meet wear shirts. You can't tell if they have abs unless you lift the shirt, and that doesn't happen for literally any other product, so it's irrelevant.
“Guaranteed to triple your income.” “If someone kidnapped your family and threatened to kill them unless you tripled your income, I bet you’d do it.” “You got a family?” I don’t like where this is going.
Script for a finance related horror/crime movie, coming out sometime in 2037?!🤔😏😆jk but had to throw in 2037 since some movie trailers come out WAY before the movie, to the point where movie actors sometimes are in the trailer but not the movie 🤔😏😆
it's weird to think that his super aggressive training approach will translate to (presumably) being personable and friendly when he's trying to sell something to someone. It's like going to military bootcamp to become a mall santa
Lots of dudes say toxic masculinity doesnt exist. This delusional guy right there is a perfect example of being a D, and ruining other dudes life/self-esteem in the process (and making money off of them...) No one needs to be a D with a God-complex in order to be a man... When will more than 20% of guys finally understands this. This guy pretends he isnt humiliating the other men: this is exactly what he does.
Sadly "personable and friendly" isn't really seen as top priority in this style of sales. This is people who idolize the "coffee's for closers" monologue.
A grown man on stage talking and using kidnapping as an example for sales while people (who are serious) listen to him attentively was probably the most freakish thing I've seen all week
Well they could have been caught up in some sort of trafficking ring you never know when a guy hints to you about sales he might be trying to buy you. That's why I always simply just politely decline it because I don't need any jail time. . It doesn't always work some of them will try to force you into it but if your good at escaping kidnappers then your probably already a legend you just have to let them do there thing then when they fall asleep sneak out of there and go home. It's not always hard to escape them because some of them are drunk and stupid after sex and it might be awhile before they wake up again.
I saw a husband and wife relationship tiktok channel where the husband was answering a viewer's question about why men will wait until the relationship is essentially dead before trying to save it with counseling or whatever. He said it's because men and boys are often conditioned to only consider something important if it's screamed at them, through coaches, teachers, pastors, etc. Verbal abuse and public humiliation just become a familiar part of the learning process and they come to expect it, meaning their wives' complaints and needs are taken as idle conversation until she gets frustrated and angry enough to start shouting. I was a little skeptical, like I knew that kind of treatment was more common for men, but to that level? Now I believe it.
Definitely an abusive parent/parental figure thing and not a man thing. If you mean it’s usually men who are the ones yelling and screaming, then yes, it usually is a man thing. Most men aren’t social inept enough to not understand something until they’re yelled at. It’s usually a two-way miscommunication thing or just a bad partner thing.
I grew up in a single mother home and all my mom did was yell. Thank God I had men in my life when I was a kid who sat me down and spoke to me as a matter of fact rather than involving emotions in the conversation. Women think men communicate emotionally when we are loud are yelling. No. We are communicating effectively and making sure we can hear each other.
My dad was a potbellied old man but he was kind and he knew how to connect with people. He owned his own business for 20 years and then became a car salesmen. And when he was a car salesmen the only people at the dealership that got more deals than him were the ones that got handed deals. Best man I've ever known. I miss him everyday.
Yes that's how you do it! Your dad sounds like he was awesome and judged his sales according to people's stories. I would think most level headed people would understand that someone being overly friendly in a fake way and pressuring you to buy the most expensive thing was doing it just to get the commission. Of course that is understandable, but I'd like to think a lot of people can see through that and can't respect people who do that if the person states a budget. I would be a horrible sales person if I made a majority of my money through commissions because if someone instantly says I can't afford anything more than *set amount* I would straight up not be able to tell them to spend more money unless I truly thought it could help somehow. I'd probably want to help find them something cheaper 🤣
As a former pitch salesman, I can say for sure what he's saying about not needing to know anything about what you're selling is unfortunately 100% true. Sales is more about how you speak during your pitch and how well you can get inside your audience's head. It's all about perceived authority and trustworthiness. Don't ever trust a salesperson, folks.
@@marschmaonline sales that are done via phone calls are a HUGE business nowadays, which I tried to get in and study and failed miserably at, lol. OP isn’t taking about door-to-door sales at all.
I don't think I've ever seen people working a legitimate profession where it feels like they're overcompensating more than in the Sales and Finance sectors. It always feels more like they're trying to convince themselves that their work is legitimate.
And it's not like their good they're just manipulative and intimidating. I was good at selling stuff (when I worked retail) b/c I was able to be relatable and nice to a person. Finding out what they needed and matching stuff to that need. Not beating them over the head and waterboarding them to buy a mixer haha
that’s how sales should be. a lot of “salesmen” think that selling the product to whoever whenever is the most important point instead of matching a consumers needs to specific products
11:00 I had a teacher just like that. He would be straight up proud of winning an argument against a child. He was also one of those “the bell doesn’t dismiss you, I do” teachers.
I work at a small shop and have to sell bicycles some times if the owner isnt here, and I hate trying to convince people that something is better then it actually is. I’m a great mechanic, and good at doing inventory and keeping up on ordering, but selling sucks. Sometimes I find myself purposely leaving out details to make something sound and look better, and I hate it.
I have to sell stuff for my job, and I have no clue why anyone would WANT to do it. At least there’s other aspects to my job otherwise I’d be looong gone by now, but my boss tried to pull this “you don’t need to know anything about x to sell it. You just have to apply pressure and make people want it” bullshit and I just nodded my head and then promptly haven’t done a single thing he said.
I love his selective angles when like 4-6 chairs are empty 9:09 and you know the rest of the room is just empty chairs. He’s the best seller for selling
Not housekeeper, that's a female coded job 😑 But I mean, yeah. The entirety of the alpha thing comes from insecurity and a need for outside validation. Which means the way to make money of ppl is to offer them a chance at that validation
Lots of dudes say toxic masculinity doesnt exist. This delusional guy right there is a perfect example of being a D, and ruining other dudes life/self-esteem in the process (and making money off of them...) No one needs to be a D with a God-complex in order to be a man... When will more than 20% of guys finally understands this. This guy pretends he isnt humiliating the other men: this is exactly what he does.
@@meowbahhyt I hope salesman come to your house and won't take no for an answer and annoy you and your family for eternity, and also phone calls and emails.
Ok but that bit at the end with the teacher… unironically happens SO frequently. Teachers (including teachers of small children) on power trips shitting on kids to boost their own ego is unfortunately quite common.
@Yurt_enthusiast7 Even if a kid """""lashes out,""""" that doesn't give the teacher a pass to insult them and have the rest of the class jeer at them. Anything short of being held at gunpoint wouldn't be enough of an excuse.
- wanting his salesmen to be muscular - "that being better looking would make you more money" - stripping them and degrading them in front of the crowd - "im literally pounding their ass in the ground" big sussy pimp energy
Yes. I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t invite one of the men to his room for a drink to talk more about sales and stood out from the crowd because “he just has a good feeling he’s on the edge of a sales explosion”.
So I do want to say the first 2 points is right. A good looking, fit man definitely does waaaay better in sales. Just like a beautiful , hour glass figured woman. People are going to be more willing to listen based on your appearance, that's kind of how reality is. However yea the other stuff is stupid nonsense
@@linzbridge4495 what's funny is that customers DO treat you differently depending on appearance like physical body shape, skin tone and makeup style 😭
10:18 that he's got scenes from Spartacus, a show full of oiled up gladiators, playing behind him on stage fully broke me. Absolutely deranged, Chad Chad does not disappoint.
Not only that, a show that is pretty incisive about the horror that is slavery, and it pulls no punches in showing how ritual and sexual humiliation, forced nudity, threatening loved ones, and rigid body standards are tools for enforcing that slavery.
Get a bunch of people to go to one of these seminars. Half way through, have everyone get up and leave. When he asks why everyone is leaving just say "he just really didn't sell me on the seminar."
The hilarious part is the man who conducted that study corrected it later and has been campaigning for a LONG time for the corrections to actually be recognized by society and literally no one will recognize it or even knows unless you're specifically around the academic world.
Honestly I wouldn't blame the guy who did it. The study didn't invent this kind of mentality, it only gave it its current vocabulary and some of its structure. Its not like this Andy person wouldn't exist in the way he is if not for the study.
@@blakksheep736 im not blaming them at all, i just think its funny that this is still the current vocabulary, as the fact that the study its from was flawed inherently undermines them
Actual professional floor salesman here! The best way to make good sales is by: 1) knowing about what you're selling. 2) being yourself. 3) treating the customer with kindness and respect. The best sales aren't the ones that have the most money involved, they're the ones that make a customer want to come back :)
And having a personal connection! I always come back if the person was friendly and had a nice chat with me (and genuienly helped me, even if the conclusion was that the product wasn't for me) and I always run off when they intimidate me.
@@Widdekuu91 I try not to be too weird or overbearing or anything like that, but I'm autistic and sometimes I just let my quirks slip through. I'm starting to think that I need therapy more than a social job
@@mikethewhizz5085 Haha, well, it is appreciated by me if someone is a bit weird or overbearing, as long as you don't shout or scream and take your shirt off xD I am autistic too bytheway, and I have therapy. I used to study Marketing, but it was all just.. well.. lying and I stopped and started studying Pedagogic Work. Now I create art with autistic people and the profits go to a Foundation for Autistic people and their care and activities. Funny how life works. :P
Yeah I had a furniture store of all things earn my loyalty just because all the staff was really nice and they even pointed me to other stores if I couldn't find what I wanted with them.
I always like it when a sales person has obvious passion about the products he is selling too. Like knowing the history of the company, owning products himself, knowing way too much about any given product, etc.
He's like a parent scolding you for every single mistake and shaming you for every single imperfection and you have and say "I'm saying all of it to encourage you"
You literally said my favorite thing to say about people like this. "he got told he was good one too many times" there are really too many people like this out there. They got put on a pedestal by the people around them and they genuinely believe they are better than everyone else and deserve to be treated as such.
I literally just got on RU-vid and said “I’m in a Chad Chad mood.” And tried to find a good one to watch, and the second I said that this was posted 🎉😂
The best salesman are the people that look and act the kindest. Their customers will have a higher opinion of them, trust them more, and be more willing to buy whatever they’re selling. Going out of your way to be intimidating towards your customers will cause less sales, not more.
you know the seminar is going well when the guy you paid to teach you tells you he knows literally nothing about the things he's trying to sell, real vote of confidence there.
I was in sales for a couple of years and hated it. I knew that it wasn't for me. There are techniques you can implement to get better, but it's kind of obvious that you have to be the type of person that enjoys sales to be good at it. This guy is so ridiculous. P.S. Chad reminds me of Frugal Aesthetic and that's a great thing.
There's two types of people who love sales. The best kind of sales people, people who LOVE to know as much about the products as they can so that they can out intelligence and out sell as many people as possible (positive competition) and people who will lie to get whatever sales they can get (negative competition). Good companies reward the first, bad companies reward the latter.
Same, I got talked into a sales position at the company I wrote my thesis for. They needed someone and I did research at the sales department for my thesis. It went terrible, I've never been that unhappy, and it made me so incredibly insecure. I'm good at thinking about what needs to be done and how, but actually selling it... big nope
@@jonnnnniej I feel you on that. In the setting that I was in, I also just didn't like manipulating people because it was a product that I didn't care about or believe in. I got out of customer service and sales altogether and I'm never, ever going back.
Yes like I want to know everything about what I’m buying especially if it’s a big purchase and something you’re using a lot. That’s the worst advice. I also wouldn’t want the salesman wearing his 9 year old sons shorts.
The importance of that does depend on the product, for a really crap product seeming like a trustworthy authority figure can be more beneficial than knowledge. Like, a high-fee mutual fund salesperson doesn't really benefit from knowing how the product works past what can fit on a small leaflet.
We need dudes like this for professions that aren't finance or sales. Where are my alpha male fast food worker influencers? Where are the welding weightlifters? Where is the ripped doctor telling other doctors he'll torment their families if they don't complete fifty surgeries RIGHT NOW?
Your last skit reminded me of when I was a child and I drew a bird and when I showed it to my mom, she drew another bird next to mine to prove that she could draw better
I worked in a place where the sales guys would say ANYTHING to make a sale, not knowing anything about the actual product we delivered downstairs, meaning we basically had to resell the client on the real product after they were already upset.
I would love to see this guy in a sales conversation with a real customer, because he doesn't seem like has other volumes than yelling and almost yelling.
I swear sales is like another world. Every sales department I've ever worked with has been full of self absorbed, out of touch, way too extroverted, and just generally fake people, it's bizarre. I guess you have to be a special kind of crazy to want to sell people things they don't want or need.
LOL, apparently, at least in THIS type of training video😂jk but if you need to be able to crawl thru barbed wire to make a sale maybe it’s better to sell Dyson vacuum cleaners instead😂jk
yeah true, as i did internships in sales or had training in selling stuff in school i was waterboarded constantly. and also i have rock-hard abs from this. (obviously sarcasm)
It helps you remember the lessons on the whiteboard stuck to the ceiling above as the waterboarding was happening. Mostly at 2am, waking up in a sweat and screaming.
you could troll this guy by asking him if he can sell anything even something you don't think he knows anything about, he'll probably say yes, then you hand him a menstrual cup and ask him to sell it to you and see what he foolery comes up with 😂
i binge watched her 3 times. when I'm waiting for her new video, i always get bored and start watching all her videos again. the next one might start one or two week later😂
I hate to mention it, but he is definitely right about being hot helping you with sales revenue. I've seen firsthand that people will buy shit from people with a mediocre sales pitch because they're so enthralled by the seller. Looks is just one part of the equation, but being hot definitely makes any sales job way easier.
If I ever saw a man in shorts that tight body-shaming other people, I’d have something to say about the biggest thing in his shorts being a whiteboard marker
“Everyone that works for me has a six pack” lmaoo too much man. The amount of time, energy, and deprivation you have to go through to look cut is crazy. And you honestly start feeling like crap.
I'm convinced guys like this just do the craziest shit they can while still being taken seriously as some game or something and whoever makes the most money while having a big following wins the stupid contest
I literally do sales for my job, full-time lol. A large majority of popular sales advice is pretty cringy and bizarre, so even though I love sales and just helping people in general, I constantly feel like I have to explain myself when people ask what I do.
Typically, commentary RU-vidrs make way too many jokes that aren't funny when talking about something I'm interested in learning about/watching. You are cracking me up more than most. Bless you.
"I'm not insulting him, I'm just instilling him with a feeling of failure ahead of time so that he goes to the trouble of trying to earn 500k, only to feel even worse when he inevitably fails because its not even remotely as easy as I'm pretending it is"
My dad is a salesperson, he has been doing it so long and has trained many people himself, he is really kind to people and there has been many times people brought him gifts because of it. My dad has made some good money doing sales and not to mention he is a really good father! even if he denies it(He sometimes thinks he is a horrible father and a horrible person honestly i should show him that guy, now that is a horrible person).
