The Boundless Mediocrity of Crystal Palace 

The fact they have the most English representation in the euros says a lot about their recent form.

Hate the idea that it must be boring being a palace fan. Much prefer the 11 years of prom football seeing the club slowly build something than bouncing up and down every 3 years

they have the longest streak of finishing in mid-table. how is that even possible? the consistency. "form is temporary, class is permanent"

american palace fan here. my total thoughts (here goes): i've been a palace fan for 11 years now, basically half my life. i've only seen them in the premier league, so i'm only recently learning about the history, fan culture, and financial issues. thus my take may be a bit more uninformed than most lifelong fans. what attracted me to crystal palace was the passionate fans, the pride in being from south london and a very diverse area, and the strong sense of community. we've got one of the (if not only) few official ultras groups in england (holmesdale fanatics). no matter how good or bad palace play, that since of community is always there and can't be bought or sold. that being said, i agree with hopkin's takes. maybe half the prem is made of teams who've been in for 11 straight years, especially since we got promoted. if you're looking at the last 25-30 years, this period is incredibly successful for us. if you're looking at the last 10 years, like i am, it's also been good, but has rightfully left palace fans yearning for more. we've been the definition of mid for a while: a really good game here, some bad games there, some meh games in between, just to finish mid table. but next season will be the first season i've been optimistic and looking up the table, thanks to glasner and our recruitment. even though we rarely sell players for money, we still made incredible purchases in january. and sheesh, we've got a coach who won the europa league two years ago and has proven himself and european level team in germany! glasner even said "my goal is to go unbeaten", and we did just that. that was cold, and that's the type of ambition we need. i can't remember any previous manager stating that type of ambition with confidence. him and vieira are the only two managers to try and harness the athletic and technical ability of our squad, and we've finished 11th and 10th under them respectfully. i feel like next year is our year to push higher. like you said, teams have been in the prem for half the time we have, gotten europe, but only villa (and arguably brighton, unfortunately) has actually stayed up there. we've been stable in the prem, and now we can take risks and push on. i went to my first ever palace game in march, at home, against luton. everything i loved about the club was solidified then and there. ill never regret choosing to support palace, and i hope glasner and freedman can take the club to new heights. up the palace! 🦅

Be careful of what you wish for. People said the same thing about Tony Pulis & Stoke City. The board took notice & then hired Mark Hughes. Stokelona was born - ambition was shown, stars were signed, football improved. Things improved so much so that they got relegated 4 seasons later & haven't been back since.

Vizeh’s jinx is about to become too powerful

We're not boring we're just red and blue

As a Palace fan, I don’t think we are “boring”. We experience as many highs and lows as other teams, but our form just always levels out in the end. While I’m being biased, to call Palace boring for spending 11 years in the Premier League with a few good cup runs seems harsh - these last 11 years have arguably been the most positive in the club’s history.

As a Derby fan, I would definitely trade our experiences for Palaces in the last couple of decades

TBH there are 100s of clubs that would love the steady stream of PL TV money without ever really feeling afraid of dropping divisions.

As a Palace supporter, I think we’re anything but boring. There’s a really cool energy at Palace where (for the most part), we can feel hopeful about almost every match we play, but we also don’t feel completely destroyed when things don’t go our way. I’d also say that supporting a club is about a lot more than final league position, and this club has a real identity and energy that only exists at Palace. There’s something really cool about following young players as they progress, even if our league position doesn’t always necessarily progress. We’ve always had uniquely exciting, creative attackers, like Bolasie, Zaha, Eze, Olise, etc; and we’ve always been one to kill a couple giants every season. It’s a lovely thing to be a part of. As per the point about hope, I think our solid foundation is the basis of a lot of our hope. Our board has built a resilient club that, if nothing else, will almost certainly never have a catastrophic decline like some other clubs that have previously been in our position. This club doesn’t want to be a flash-in-the-pan, couple great seasons then back down sort of team. Our hopes come from becoming a real fixture in the English game. That’s why the club has put huge money into the academy, and it’s why they’ve been working for so long to redevelop our stadium. The club understands that long-term infrastructure is more important than short term reaches into limited success. I love having delusionally high hopes at the beginning of a season, but this team under Glasner really does feel special. Losing Olise was always the reality, we were prepared for it and will build well with the money we get. The core of the squad is better than it’s ever been, the attitude is positive, and the atmosphere is right. I think we’ll be a great squad next season, but the beauty of being a Palace supporter is that even if we’re not great, there’ll be something to hope for. Something to look forward to. Also can’t stress enough how wonderful it is to see our women’s team promoted to the WSL. Every side of this club keeps improving and it’s so fulfilling as a fan.

As a palace fan I don’t find it boring at all. Given the limited budget we’ve had in that time it’s incredible we’ve even stayed up. And in recent times we’ve done it while playing great footy

As a palace fan, we were literally in administration 14 years ago so cannot complain

this vid coming out right after olise to bayern is fitting

palace may look boring at the end of the season, but, on a game to game basis they are 1 of my favorite teams to watch.

Ok Palace is quite a full mid table team but in my opinion they look to change, I think with Glasner at the wheel they can get into a Europa league place or conference league, call it a hot take but look at their recent form and you will see why

Im from Serbia (one of those countries that only knows and supports big clubs) and im LFC fan but my old man for some reason loves Cpal. We so, both, watch PL a lot and he loves them. So i got to buy him a jersey. From my perspective Cpal is not boring, actually very enjoyable games especially when they play at home, its like Cpal has some bigger soul in fandom. Just my feeling as non Cpal fan. Point is there are a lot of fans of smaller clubs around the world ppl are not aware of Great video mate as usual P.s. why are you in Poland and how did you get there😂

Better title : What if the Maneger listens to what my dad screames at the TV😂

I genuinely think Palace might actually pull a surprise run next season even going top 6; mind you I'm saying this as a neutral viewer that only started following them in the last few years and will likely follow them in more detail now that an international from my country joined them (Chadi Riad), but I know very well the capability of the new manager because I watched him a lot and looking at the players he already has or ones he's signing, it is looking pretty promising.

The 2nd half or 2016-17 made me fall in love with the club. It went from being quite dire under Pardew, then Big sam does what he does best and brought beleif back into us and we had a great run defeating liverpool, Arsenal & Chelsea (albeit we had a lucky handball go our way). Despite De Boer not getting results out of the squad, he did do one thing that Palace struggles at times to do, and that is bring youth into our defence, i dont remeber him signing any attackers at all, and some did become key parts of our starting xi like Jaïro. I think we're moving on from being bog standard mid-table. It's funny that we still have Ward on our books he's like the relic of the last 10 years of Palace.

Palace next season will be scary. Yes Olise may have left but if they spend the money well I could see them finishing in the top 7 next season

I really enjoy Crystal Palace. If you are a club that produces super young talent, and will now reap some of the financial rewards, that’s no bad thing. We get to see Prem stars and on our days can give anyone a game.

I am a man utd fan and im in awe everytime we play them. They are sort of a bogey team for us but... losing Zaha and immidiately replacing him with a like for like player, shows that there is a plan and a structure in place. I bet most of Palace's 11 wud get into the man utd squad too :P

I think it's a fantastic achievement for a club the size of Crystal Palace to consistently finish in mid table in the Premier League! To finish 10th and finish above teams like Everton, Brighton and Nottingham Forest is something to be proud of! I think if they can hold on to the players they have currently they could potentially push for the Europa or Europa Conference leagues!!

Crystal Palace have established themselves as a mid table /top half team palace next year could be getting conference league football.

As a Palace fan I wouldn’t call us boring at all. If you only look at our league finishes then that will only tell you a tiny window of our seasons. Every year is a rollercoaster, it’s never a given that we finish where we do, we go through long spells of not winning games and then have sudden upturn in form either from a new signing, player returning from injury, a new manager. Every season we get a couple of great results out of the big sides and cause an upset. We’ve had some of the most exciting talents outside of the top 6 clubs for years. We’ve done this all whilst spending under budget, something a lot of clubs don’t do and just buy there success or end up failing miserably and in debt, points deducted etc. yet we have signed the championships most promising stars consistently, upgraded our academy to an extremely high standard, have started the expansion of our ground and it’s all come together at the perfect moment, now is the time to kick on. We have a very exciting manager and group of players, we are financially healthy, this is something a lot of clubs underestimate but it means we have buying power and don’t have to sell our best players unless it makes sense to us. I’m convinced Glasner is the man to take us out of the bottom half and everyone is going to want him to become their manager. I fear that if we do punch to far above our weight that the vultures will be circling.

As a non English Palace and their fan are some of the few i respect in England , correct me if i am wrong but i dont think any other team in England still has an Ultras/Ultras-like group still going. Palace is one of the few Clubs in England that operates as a community club similar to how Clubs are run in Italy and in the Balkans , giving back to the communities helping hosting stuff and keeping those deep roots going from their end aswell.

Tbh as a palace fan, before 11 years of Midtable finishes we almost lost our club

I’m not kidding when I say vizeh talks in every video like it’s a documentary or something

I’m so happy you’ve done a palace vid vizeh I’ve watched you for time and always was curious your thoughts as a lifetime palace fan class as always ! And also I wouldn’t have it any other way cause the highs are the best highs as a palace fan and the worst is defo awful it’s like life honestly for me 😂

really good answers and they make sense. Staying in the league n playing the big boys broadcasted worldwide so they deserve the respect. Im an Arsenal fan in south africa n we know n like Palace because of their efforts on Monday nights under the lights

Grew up watching Palace mid table in the championship, nearly relegated to L1, administration, and now 11 prem seasons consistently competing and beating the top teams in the world and annoying all my plastic friends over the years. Wouldn't swap it for anything. I never want to see us relegated as I don't want to see my club fail, lose money, lose jobs, lose players and spoil all the hard work from our 2013 promotion. Some seasons have been tough; we wanted to push from mid-table to top 10 and Glasner achieved this in 3 months so future is looking bright. It is defo not boring.

I know a guy who always talks about how much he likes watching cp, big crystal palace fan i assume

Next season could be something special for Palace

Hi! Great video! My mum got me into football and got me supporting the palace. We have a few saying in our house about palace, one of which is “never a boring day at the palace.” People who aren’t palace fans only see the results, the final points tally. They don’t see every game, every moment. Palace are without question one the most chaotic clubs in the premier league. And yet we have always kept our heads above the water and it’s always balanced out. If I were to describe palace in a phrase it would be “ordered chaos.” UTP 💙❤️🦅💙❤️🦅

They do have some great players whom they bought for very cheap. They might get Duran from Villa and will get 3 key players from the Colombian national team who have lots of stamina and are all decent, hardworking guys. What you have to consider is that the Premier League is the European Super league. They aren't selling their souls, the gulf autocracies or going into debt to buy off 3 or 4 spots higher on the table. I mean, stable and solid rise is better than suicide charge or selling your ass

Been a Palace fan since 2012, HLTCO hit it on the spot with those answers! I hope Palace can keep up the form from the last 3 months of the season, it was such a wild ride.

From Rural western Sydney Australia, Palace now and always

You know it's gonna be a banger when Vizeh uploads a video

There’s something to be said about how sustainable these seasons have been. However the best part is that, if you’re consistently safe from relegation, you get sit comfortably in the mid table but get to be the banana peel messing with other teams’ seasons

Nice to end a Saturday evening with a cold one and a mini vizeh movie🎉

FA cup final, semi final, beating City multiple times, new training ground, crazy managers from pulis & alladyce to de boer and vieria. Not boring at all, great video!

The future is good for us tho, we are actually finally looking in the right direction with glasner

Burney fan calling Palace boring, why i never 😂 You lot wouldn't kill for that consistency in the PL? Lets be honest

I miss their old badge

Boy I sure hope that palace keeps all these players

Damn it you beat me to tipping Palace to be shock of the season next season. Glasner to be Prem manager of the season.

As a Palace fan I think you’re forgetting about the uncertainty surrounding managers and players leaving, what’s going on in the boardroom and the fact that in most of these seasons we’ve actually been in relegation battles for a lot of them till the last few months. I mean in 17/18 we only had 4 points from the first 10 games having lost the first 7 and still stayed up! We’ve also had some great FA Cuo runs in 15-16 and 21-22 which haven’t been boring! For the first time since promotion I now believe we finally have genuine hope of getting European football. Yes there has always been an element of frustration and anger watching other teams overtake us from the championship and some like Burnley making Europe. Many of us feel like there’s no reason why we couldn’t have been there if we’d shown more ambition in the transfer market. Having said that if you’d offer this in 2010 or even in 2013 after the okay off final we’d have all taken it in a heartbeat. We are just so proud of where we’ve come from and enjoying the journey wherever it takes us.

Has Bayern Munich matched Olise's Release Clause yet?

for me CP is very intresting club yeah they always finish around 12th place but when it comes to game against them as supporter of any big club you have in back of your mind well they can supprise us like beating united 4-0 this year or drawing with LFC last year

Love your videos vizeh

I just realised how useful your background in graphic design would be since it makes for easily recognisable thumbnails

I can see why people think we're a boring club, and for a while we somewhat have been. Its all been about stability from the club's perspective and not spending beyond our means. With the new stand we'd increase our revenue and hopefully push on. It's a massive shame we've sold Olise, but I trust in Dougie Freedman to find a replacement. We can genuinely challenge for Europe next season.

If pep managed the team with the best eleven they’d get top six

Palace fan here - i love my club and im very biased, BUT we have a level of consistency that most other clubs would happily take. Being firmly mid table for so long isn’t ideal, but it’s not a situation I take for granted. I don’t believe it’s stagnation at all. In fact, we could be overachieving, but we’re so boring that it goes unnoticed lol

As an Oldham fan our owners have ruined us and never stick to a project but there is now hope with rothwell as the owner hopefully sorting out the finished financials and Mellon being in charge gathering us momentum at the end of last season. Would love a full in depth video about the fall of oldgam

It isn't boring, every season is a mix of disaster and recovery, a mini rollercoaster.

Under Glasner they look much better tbh. they might be in the race for europe this season if they can keep players. (Bayern look the be signing Olise atm though)

As a saints fan, all I can say is I'm not envious of Crystal palace because in the season's we spent in the peek as had better campaigns but I respect that they have stuck to their system, from yannick bolasie and zaha to olise and eze, when we stayed from our system and failed to integrate young players continue team that was our downfall. Saints looked much better this season though and I hope we can do well next season.

Gonna be interesting to see if they can hold on to eze now that Olise is basically confirmed to go, I do think eze will be a bit like zaha and stay at crystal palace though, whether he wants to go or not.

Rooting hard for them next pl season

If you modernize selhurst park 3 ways round (sides of the stadium) it'll add more energy to the club, they already have the best chants/songs in the league and they always roar for the club, it's still in London after all, and craven cottage is the only stadium not going to change much

Crazy how good their squad is on paper though Goated fm24 save

Heading for our 12th season in the prem, we used to go up and down like a yo yo, far from boring , id,rather be in the prem than championship , not flat at all, model of consistency, other teams would love to be,established in the league, u got the top 6 , toon, massive money and history they have, we are doing well, new stand starting to be built, new,training ground , our future will be youth, will generate money and unfortunately we will have to buy and sell

Crystal Palace formed in 1861, in south east London are the only south London team in premier League.😮 They have established themselves in this League and now under a new manager in oliver glasner; they will want to push on and do well.😅

Mid table suits them, anything else and they start to implode

Today I just found out what HLTCO stands for, cheers mate

Well observed piece and good collaboration. Palace have a strong local identity and are community conscious. I wouldn't swap this for anything as imho, football has become so corporate. Give me Selhurst, a four sided ground with character over any other super stadium any day.I'm also truly unenvious of City's (or any other big club) successes one bit and would not swap our position for it as it's all about how you achieve your minor successes and celebrate them, such as beating Man Utd on a good day. If a National State came in and bought Palace and we then were able to challeng for the league or champions league, where would be the satisfaction in that. You can't buy happiness or love ❤💙

Palace fans brace yourselves for a roller coaster of a summer as I think bigger seagulls will be circling on your better and possibly (eventually ?) Glasner.

I love my eagles, but looking on the up as long as we got og

As soon as Vizeh makes this video Olise is booking his flights to Munich…

We aren’t boring.. We’ve been so much fun to watch after beating Liverpool.. You’re a burnley fan and you’re talking about us being boring when you’re in the championship.

As a Leeds fan I'd love to have Palace's place

Time to load up the career mode

Good timing because olise is now heading to Bayern

Fed up of hearing the palace fans hyping up eze and wharton! Wharton had a good season and a few minutes for england and all of a sudden he is world class 😂 imagine him coming up against the likes of musiala and wirtz! He'd look ridiculous! Then there's eze, came on against denmark, did nothing and gave the ball away constantly 😂 this is what happens when supporters of average teams get above their stations! Marc guehi is the only palace player who belongs in the England team and if he's got any sense he will move to a bigger and better team. I have nothing against Crystal palace, it's fans of bang average teams thinking their players are something they arent!!!!!

They have a Champions League level coach right now with a Europa/Conference level squad, I'm surprised Glasner hasn't been looked at by the biggest teams in Europe, what he did at Frankfurt was nothing short of remarkable and its no wonder he's got them smashing some teams that would be considered bigger than them. If they only lose Olise and for a big sum and bring in some wild talent with that money I wouldn't bet against them getting 4th place in 2024/25 because of not having to play European football.

Istg palace is that one team that you forget exists until your team plays against them

And most of the talents they have might be gone before the season, hopefully they can find the right replacements

Los últimos partidos que jugo el Palace fue de lo mejor de la temporada de toda la Premier League

If they could keep all the pieces they could challenge for Europe but they are almost certainly going to get raided of all their best players in the summer and manager when someone like Kompany, one of the next 5 Chelsea managers, Howe or ten hag gets sacked next season. Also palace don’t play in red and white stripes so they will never be truly boring which is nice for them.

SEAGULLS! SEAGULLS! SEAGULLS! SEAGULLS! SEAGULLS!

My eyes lighting up seeing the Vizeh notification

Palace should be top 8 at least with their dominance in South london

*I honestly think Crystal Palace will make a top 5 finish this coming season. Watch this space.*

Honestly you being a burnley fan makes this even funnier

Crystal Palace are not boring we are a special club with lots of young talent

As a Sunderland fan, trust me, I'd prefer the last 11 years being like Palace's haha

1:19 the mighty Burnley led by the greatest gaffer of all time (sean dyche)the greatest center back of all time (ben mee) the greatest midfielder of all time (dean marney) and the greatest striker of all time Ashley Barnes

even tho the squad is solid its a matter of time other clubs just come and pick their best players and its over ..

we've gone from getting beat by Scunthorpe, Peterborough etc stuck in the lower end of the Championship. To handing out beatings to europa league quality teams. Nothing boring about it. All the money has gone in infrastructure buying and fitting out two training grounds. Building an elite academy and work on an 8000K capacity increase to Selhurst starts this summer. We're selling players to Bayern. Buying young promising/EL winning players from Ligue Un, Bundesliga, Serie A, La Liga... Before we'd be lucky to get a L1 player or an aging PL reject. Might be slow and steady but it's about not being a flash in the pan. IF we can establish ourselves as a consistent regular top 10/european team WITH the necessary infrastructure behind it to actually maintain it unlike lots of clubs that are one and done. Then as a London club that gives us an opportunity down the track owner wise. There's another three stands at Selhurst that need doing.........

making this video while fabrizio announced olise at bayern😂

slated with that title lol

The English version of Augsburg

Bro is really a Burnley fan 😂

English FC Augsburg.

Dont forget. ROB HOLDING

As Bristol City and Preston got mentioned do you think they’ll ever come to the Premier League

Released the day Fabrizio reports Bayern agreeing to terms with Olise 😬

Had a feeling the Palace fan would bring up Leeds. As a Leeds fan, i can say he makes a fair point. However a club like Leeds has a lot more potential than Palace. Our first season back after 16 years we finished 9th. If our board backed us we could have pushed on. I like Palace and feel if i was a fan id be a little frustrated. They always seem to have a good collection of talented young players. Be nice if the board decided to try and make a push up the league and try to keep some of these players by showing a bit of ambition. Must be pretty frustrating. Great video mate