The Boy Who Broke the March Madness Bracket

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The probability of completing a perfect NCAA tournament bracket is less than the combined odds of landing a hole-in-one, winning the Powerball and being struck by lightning multiple times. So how did Sam Holtz, the 2015 winner of ESPN's March Madness Bracket Challenge, beat out almost 12 million other entries and score a near-perfect bracket? For one: he didn’t watch any college basketball before the tournament. A Great Big Story told with our friends at Bleacher Report.
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@kylek7748 7 лет назад

I've said this for years that the only person who is going to fill out a perfect bracket is someone who knows absolutely nothing about college basketball

@JinjaOnHere 7 лет назад

Kyle Klimek I watch every game of every season and right now I only have 5 right predictions. 5!!!!!

@kylek7748 7 лет назад

Case and point

@JinjaOnHere 7 лет назад

Kyle Klimek Yep

@peepsyogi 6 лет назад

Kyle Klimek because people will over think... Who knows may I be the next one? Yeah right Im to lazy to make one

@yourfriendlyneighborhoodsm4708 6 лет назад

Kyle Klimek Shannon said it on Undisputed. The more you know about college basketball, the worse your picks are going to be

@nickbrian9567 8 лет назад

I play baseball with him. He wasn't lying about not watching basketabll

@thekingpatb9286 8 лет назад

Do u really?

@Billybob-om6lu 7 лет назад

Thekingpat B I go to school with him everyday.

@wallacestine 7 лет назад

Nick Brian WOW GOOD LYING *CLAPS LOUDLY*

@bmclizzy657 7 лет назад

Nick Brian no one watches basketabll... cuz it's BASKETBALL !!!! Not basketabLL

@wallacestine 7 лет назад

How am I lying? I am making a statement that I don't believe is true from some kid that supposedly knows this kid 7th grader

@micahsmith9024 6 лет назад

Wise words from this guy, "Pick who you think is gonna win." bravo

@zohaibalam4047 5 лет назад

Micah Smith so obvious

@eeeesyywuwiz2836 3 года назад

Micah Smith I mean what was he supposed to say? Its like asking a lottery winner how they won, well by buying the ticket of course

@micahsmith9024 3 года назад

@@eeeesyywuwiz2836 yeah I know it's just funny

@rhysfairall2562 3 года назад

No way I became the one thousandth like on this comment.

@micahsmith9024 3 года назад

@@rhysfairall2562 How does this have 1k likes? Lol

@whipjack13 5 лет назад

This is like passing a test you didn’t study for

@hastaar2161 3 года назад

Acing you mean😆

@CRMdrifter 3 года назад

@@hastaar2161 well he didnt actually have a perfect bracket he just won the competition.

@ShaikaShuriken 2 года назад

Fr getting an A on a test I didn’t even know was happening that day is always the best (unless it’s a free class like literature, because I don’t study for that class either way)

@helloasroma Год назад

More like getting into Harvard when you never studied your whole life

@rossgonzales3422 Год назад

This is like acing the LSAT with no studying lol

@migbossChannel 5 лет назад

Producers: Bracketology Prodogy! Sammy: "It's just pick whoever you want to win, there is no science"

@joshcorbett4787 5 лет назад

Sarcasm.exe not_found

@idontplay3v3 2 года назад

@3026 Zi it worked for him

@gonzolonzo1383 3 года назад

He lived a perfect series of events that lead him to his bracket.

@dylankrejci9965 2 года назад

Slumdog Bracketology

@rafa57games 2 года назад

It's like who wants to be a millionaire, the movie

@kinteyoi Год назад

@@rafa57games slumdog millionaire

@unonymous4407 2 года назад

I love how the only advice he had was “pick you think is gonna win.” Proves how he defiantly doesn’t watch basketball, makes the better.

@jickleton-5653 2 года назад

Definitely*

@unonymous4407 2 года назад

@@jickleton-5653 Thank you

@ayyyayay 2 года назад

I really thought the way he does this is look through articles of each team, look at the stats, of team and player,look at the history between each matchup, look at the advantages and disadvantages, ask people who watch college ball for some more information But hell nah he’s just like, I like this college, therefore they win the match up

@ThomBjork 2 года назад

"I'm not going to watch basketball; you can't make me!" he said as he stomped his foot defiantly

@colinnewton8433 5 лет назад

Who else it watching this because March Madness is coming back?

@razorblu3107 5 лет назад

Colin Newton yes I went back to watch this to get his advice for the bracket😤

@bearcsgo3659 5 лет назад

@bobbymccafferty2361 5 лет назад

Yep

@alisharider5674 5 лет назад

I am

@Zolo776 5 лет назад

@gagebrooker5645 7 лет назад

then they show him dunking on 8 foot rim

@mpan2258 7 лет назад

Gage Brooker with a sick backboard

@joshmcgeough6823 6 лет назад

Gage Brooker 6 foot

@ShnugFlug 6 лет назад

It was higher than 6 foot probably 7 or 7'6

@Eggs-sy4js 6 лет назад

ShnugFlug if it was 7 foot then he’s easily 5 foot 10 so no

@braxtonansbaugh182 6 лет назад

Gage Brooker with no back baord

@e8kowala 8 лет назад

LOL IS THIS REAL LIFE SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE

@Idekatthispointlol 7 лет назад

e8kowala lol

@kirchscomet5767 7 лет назад

e8kowala 😂😂😂

@stopreadingthis9956 6 лет назад

@aarav5762 5 лет назад

Lol he is a billionaire cuz of Warren Buffett

@ryandonahoe9072 5 лет назад

Calvin Johnson yeah he didn’t have a perfect bracket not a billionaire hahaha

@michaelpham2772 6 лет назад

Didn’t know lostnunbound had the winning bracket

@samjohnson374 6 лет назад

hah tru

@anshshah8893 6 лет назад

Michael Pham he did?

@nbalivebeaster8260 6 лет назад

Lol he looks like him

@matthewstaffordsburner1040 6 лет назад

Eh sorta

@bignigga2974 5 лет назад

More like TD

@MrHam-sk3kr 2 года назад

This is like the perfect example of how unpredictable march madness is

@Ty-tq2kj 7 лет назад

Mark Cuban: You didn't choose the Mavericks to win, and for that reason I'm out.

@zbrycey 5 лет назад

Ty 27 lmao

@igenesisvt8818 4 года назад

Ty 27 the mavs are in the nba

@adamk5672 4 года назад

Xzafex r/whoosh

@ichiromori536 4 года назад

Ty 27 shark tank reference

@charbelkassab6353 4 года назад

Lol

@MusicThruHeadphones 8 лет назад

He got lucky

@trejayratliff2307 8 лет назад

you don't say

@Billybob-om6lu 7 лет назад

Kenneth Wung he goes to my school. M8.

@Kkoso 7 лет назад

Kenneth Wung no shit.

@carlosmatos3241 7 лет назад

Shawn Birkholz 😂😂😂😂

@CoobCanGame 7 лет назад

No fuckin shit

@dandruff31 2 года назад

I started doing brackets the year before this guy's near perfecto. I had two terrible brackets in a row, then with 0 knowledge predicted Villanova over UNC and Michigan State losing to Middle Tennessee. The less knowledge you have, the better you do. It's been a slow, painful decline since I started getting more into college basketball.

@botsnest4933 4 года назад

some people be trying their whole lives to win this and this kid doesnt even watch college basketball and won LMFAO

@thewarriormonkey6372 7 лет назад

their coach is Italian and I'm somewhat Italian so they win his logic

@CTS1661 4 года назад

TheWarriorMonkey it’s funny cuz his last name isn’t even Italian

@greenbean5085 3 года назад

@@CTS1661 his moms side could of been Italian

@Loafysosa 3 года назад

I’m crying 🤣

@RealPatrickWebb 2 года назад

Literally every College Basketball coach is an Italian Jew 💀💀💀

@muchduck3754 2 года назад

@@greenbean5085 what about his dad’s side?

@blubue 7 лет назад

Or maybe someone from the future told him so.

@Osiris4181 7 лет назад

Arewhyand Music This isn't Back to the future

@TheGamer14300 6 лет назад

Cygnus727 or is it

@georgikens7516 6 лет назад

He stole the almanac!

@BillBondsHasAPosse 6 лет назад

It’s was the book he stole from Biff.

@gk4lifearsenal597 6 лет назад

Think about it if he talked to someone from the future wouldn’t he have a perfect bracket

@SportsKing2000 Месяц назад

8 years later, no one made it past the first round

@goosenik2219 3 года назад

'The man who broke the lottery' "Yeah I picked my favorite numbers I guess I like how 3 looks"

@tuckerpeterson1576 8 лет назад

This guy's a sixth grader?

@bwitt7830 8 лет назад

he was at the time, in seventh grade now

@maia9557 7 лет назад

B Witt big difference.

@monstarxl77 7 лет назад

Mr. Panda. It is actually

@MinneapolisLegend28 7 лет назад

david otuwa, lol did somebody just graduate sixth grade

@cubby6007 7 лет назад

Alexander Ketcham so was I man I gave him the pencil and I was sitting next to him fanning him so he could concentrate

@charron1 8 лет назад

warren buffet offered 1 billion for this

@Leglas563Channel 8 лет назад

Here in my garage

@AdubsYT 7 лет назад

HJMadventures My bwand new bwackets

@Ryan_11990 7 лет назад

He didn't have a perfect bracket. You needed it to have everything correct.

@cornbread4535 7 лет назад

Yeah that was for a perfect bracket which has never happened and probably never will

@futurekickz9740 7 лет назад

charron except it just did

@blurz3423 5 лет назад

Now I know who’s lunch money to steal

@kalebw 5 лет назад

Lol I watch your videos btw I'm subbed too

@cookingwithcarrus 3 года назад

He has no vids

@maxdraper21 2 года назад

Sammy’s mom: I think he was lucky. Everyone watching: No waaaayyyy!!!!

@onWardsWeGo 7 лет назад

He knew Michigan state coach is Italian? Makes complete sense he doesn't watch much..

@ganzaman7322 7 лет назад

he doesn't watch before the tournament.

@natee157 6 лет назад

saje cowell not much doesn’t mean not at all

@s1ash1 2 года назад

Google exisst

@isaiahmitchell129 7 лет назад

He doesn't seem too excited about this. You know what I think? I think he time travelled.

@AJ-cy3fs 6 лет назад

Isaiah Mitchell your profile pic is cancer 💀💀

@ozzieshelmet4928 6 лет назад

Isaiah Mitchell dang it. I tried to wipe it off

@youtubetroll1083 6 лет назад

I know I'm late, but he wasn't excited because he was too young to get the prize. I know you're joking, just saying. If he did get the prize, he would be stoked.

@I-do-not-read-replies 6 лет назад

He was too young to get the prize so its a big slap in the face.

@Speeeedy 6 лет назад

Fucking no. Time travelling isn’t possible u fucking idiot and this doesn’t prove anything. He didn’t ace it, not 100%. He was ”near” perfect score. Moron

@samuraijedi1669 2 года назад

Time to watch this video once again. Wonder if Sam is filling out a bracket for 2022.

@dandachliboxing6513 2 года назад

i got a question can’t you just fill the bracket after each game ends and get a perfect one or do you have to fill out a certain bracket before the ncaa starts online and it shuts off after ncaa tournament starts so no one can cheat

@pastywhiteninja7798 2 года назад

@@dandachliboxing6513 It stops allowing you to when it starts

@Samuel-I 4 года назад

When the interviews started I had to go back and verify that this wasn't an Onion satire piece.

@Wildcardnet 7 лет назад

He ended up getting a trip to Maui (Hawaii) for one week 2 Xbox Ones (which one he donated to Make-A-Wish Foundation) A $20,000 College Scholarship He also predicted Villanova to win it all last year as I read in one of his recent articles

@repoman2115 7 лет назад

why do they keep saying perfect, his bracket wasn't perfect

@jayviancoulter3609 6 лет назад

Galaxy S7 in the beginning it says “near perfect”

@shoutzo3074 6 лет назад

This the galaxy I know?

@zackminoske1922 6 лет назад

Jayvian Coulter in the video it says he filled out a perfect bracket

@danny7024 6 лет назад

Sports Talk no one has ever filled a perfect bracket, longest lasting bracket was 37 straight picks

@searchingformyself5319 6 лет назад

first name last name I thought it was 39 straight? Anyway, no one is getting far this year lmao

@tkennedy301 5 лет назад

lol this is like my 7 year old cousin who watches no basketball at all and picked UMBC to upset Virginia last year

@Cbertram0122 5 лет назад

tkennedy 301 bullshit no one predicted that

@metsfan7376 4 года назад

@thatbeast73 _ He’s 7 years old he probably picked the teams based on their logos

@Moester99 4 года назад

tkennedy 301 Dylan?

@howardbaxter2514 3 года назад

I remember I picked Mercer to upset Duke when I was a freshman in high school. Best part is I picked Mercer by doing a simple random number generator in my computer science class.

@willseest3732 3 года назад

So true

@georgeorwell480 3 года назад

This gets recommended to everyone every march.

@teamreset. 3 года назад

Facts.

@colinscardpulls9863 3 года назад

Same lol

@ASarma11 3 года назад

@cpenguin531 7 лет назад

I learned so much from this video. It really helped me out

@HC-cz7xl 7 лет назад

Holy fuck why is this a video? "How did you pick the winning number" "I dunno I just picked it" Headline: Boy who solved the lottery

@asadiku7175 6 лет назад

Garden Gnome exactly

@noelvalenzarro Месяц назад

There’s a lesson to be had from it but it seems you weren’t ready for it yet

@brandonho8029 Месяц назад

POV: this video comes across your For you page/ Reccomended every year lol

@mcguirehiscock3354 5 лет назад

I’ve watched this video four times and it’s still on my suggested after like 2 years

@ryanb7949 5 лет назад

McGuire Hiscock same lmao

@Lahcsap 8 лет назад

Dude I'm same way! I don't even watch much basketball and last years tourney, I just solely went off of my gut feeling vs people who live and breath basketball, and I had the best bracket.

@Ej.morgan.14 3 года назад

I love it he just picks who he likes and where he’s been it’s hilarious

@7mikepd 3 года назад

I have to say I usually don’t get a chance to watch much ball, but the beat bracket I ever had was my junior year of high school when I watched a ton of basketball. And it actually did help to not guess a lot. My bracket was one of the best in Baton Rouge.

@themanwhofellintotheriveri170 3 года назад

I love his enthusiasm

@VaanshLakhwara 7 лет назад

i wonder what he does in the SAT's.

@michellemitchh516 6 лет назад

Vaansh Lakhwara yeah lol

@robw7856 6 лет назад

He said he guessed everything, why would he do well on the SATs?...

@conorhouston69 6 лет назад

Vaansh Lakhwara well he picks his favorite answer and aces it

@vsvp4828 6 лет назад

Go with his guts

@nfcleast5535 5 лет назад

Don’t study at all, don’t listen to teachers, and fill you’re scantron out in a weird shape and get a perfect score

@Kakod4life 7 лет назад

Ok so he said he doesn't watch college basketball but he knew Kentucky won every year...ok cmon Man U must watch a bit...lollllll

@checkmqte2031 7 лет назад

Mate everyone knows Kentucky always wins.

@Zach-vk8oz 7 лет назад

He said he doesn't watch before the tournament

@ratedpending 7 лет назад

You don't need to know ncaamb to know Kentucky wins all the time

@THELETTERPRODUCTION 7 лет назад

Scottie he said before the tournament. kinda like me , I don't watch NBA games really until the playoffs

@edinmujanovic6593 7 лет назад

if this is the same guy who was in the news last year for a new perfect bracket, then his dad helped him. there was a kid who had made the news for his bracket and admitted his father was obsessed with basketball and helped him make brackets

@jexgarrett266 3 года назад

Interviewer: What’s your advice for people filling out their brackets? Him: just pick who you think is gonna win Me: Oh ok I usually choose who I think will lose 🤦‍♂️

@DameLillardLover Год назад

I mean it’s better than staying silent and making it awkward 🫠

@GeographyGeek Год назад

Don't let this kid fool you. He's a time traveler.

@pyzo. Год назад

100%

@loganclutz15 Год назад

Definitely

@tupacshakur8451 7 лет назад

This guy knows something we don't know.. I can see it in his eyes.

@Sixsoul Год назад

Gematria

@sfjohn5 7 лет назад

Sam, who entered ESPN's tournament challenge with his father's email address and consent, wasn't old enough to qualify for the grand prize of a $20,000 Best Buy gift card and trip to the 2015 Maui Invitational. He needed to be 18 years or older to enter the random drawing that will include the top 1 percent of entrants

@bee9026 7 лет назад

sfjohn5 can't hus dad be the representative or something?

@jackwilson9280 7 лет назад

sfjohn5 That's freakin stupid

@Chorik_Wits 7 лет назад

sfjohn5 u

@bbl_brynr 7 лет назад

TheGreatestDuck who the fuck says fricken lmao ur probably 8 yrs old

@jackwilson9280 7 лет назад

Bbl_BrynR Troll alert

@thewestisthebest6608 4 года назад

Boy: Breaks March Madness Corona: Hold my beer

@zs6462 6 лет назад

“How did u pick who to win each game?” “I just picked who I thought would win”😂😂

@YUnGYuNI532 Месяц назад

He probably lost his league the next year 💀

@wildcats417 7 лет назад

Quality basketball backboard he has at the end

@dylancarpenter7902 2 года назад

I come back to this every year

@kxobi 4 года назад

This is a very useful video... sure will use the strat

@isaiahwalsh4587 5 лет назад

Why does this 6th grader have a lower voice then me and I’m 28 lmao

@wildk5367 3 года назад

Now u r 30 :) (hopefully)

@o_o5210 3 года назад

Why do I love the fact that they roll with how FRICKIN LUCKY this child is

@jookie4207 2 года назад

Ayy I know that merch!!! That’s from Professor Live (the merch at the end)

@mancool2662 5 лет назад

It’s fun to watch my team Kentucky to win every year also love that other dude had a CINCY bearcats jacket on

@jacklong5158 5 лет назад

*dunks on basket 5 feet off ground*

@mikevids8107 3 года назад

Reminds me of the time I won my school’s March madness bracket by searching up “March madness bracket” and copying the first one that showed up. I had never watched a college basketball before that besides going to see URI play at home a couple times.

@sharkneishawhalywhale9456 3 года назад

Wow real good advice bud!

@lilwhiteboythiqqy 3 года назад

The end though is frickin hilarious 😆

@NextLevelYT 5 лет назад

When explaining it he said he picked who he wanted to win then at the end said pick who you think will win Makes sense

@kennylingga7051 6 лет назад

0:34 LEFTY DETECTED

@zlatankachow24 2 года назад

I watch this every year

@cantbeatthebay4765 6 лет назад

niiiice 4 inch vert bro!!!

@mitchellperalta1638 7 лет назад

The fact that he owns a Griffey sweatshirt is respectable. Dudes a legend

@Doabafam 3 года назад

Who is here after all of the brackets are wrong one week in March madness.

@KingErnst16 4 года назад

His explenations to his bracket was just too funny xDDD

@donkey1151 2 года назад

Wow someone with a panthers shirt did something good

@typicalalex2306 5 лет назад

Did anyone else notice the broken backboard at the end?

@barbraharvey9251 3 года назад

He probably broke it with his baseball. Lol lol

@jasonok1436 8 лет назад

Did he win anything??

@Omgitssoup 8 лет назад

+Jason ok Espn was going to give him 20k but at the last min they didn't. They pulled back. If you get a perfect bracket you can win up yo 1 billion dollars.

@AviPars 7 лет назад

OmgItsSoup they p pulled back because he was too young

@sergiozavaleta4521 7 лет назад

Everything Tech Review that's stupid they could've just gave the money to his parents

@AviPars 7 лет назад

LagiNaLangAko23 yes. I won a red bull contest , was under 18, but app it was was an iPad so they just had my parents sign. anything bigger, they aren't legally bound to do anything.

@AviPars 7 лет назад

*Y O U G R E E D Y D I R T B A G* LagiNaLangAko23 yes. I won a red bull contest , was under 18, but app it was was an iPad so they just had my parents sign. anything bigger, they aren't legally bound to do anything.

@doggozoggo7209 4 года назад

Carolina Panthers Shirt, Random Basketball in his room, shelves decked with baseball stuff, what?!

@swishswoosh6556 3 года назад

This is like me studying for Hours for a test and then failing And then the kid that doesn’t study’s passes

@AidanDaki11a 8 лет назад

Still famous huh Sam?

@sstreakzzzz 4 года назад

They tried to get this guy to make some scientific formula on how to make correct predictions. He had the right answer though - “just pick who you think is gonna win”

@Amenadiel605 5 лет назад

Anyone else notice that he went to colleges and is flippin 12 Edit:THIS IS THE MOST LIKES I HAVE EVER GOTTEN!!!

@kameronhill4422 5 лет назад

trap master 50 I went on a college campus tour to washing state university as a freshman. Lots of high schools do stuff like that it’s pretty much a field trip

@andrewkeating4065 5 лет назад

Kameron Hill yeah but 6th grade is not high school

@dulbinrosario10 5 лет назад

Kameron Hill he’s in the 6th grade

@kameronhill4422 5 лет назад

Andrew Keating ok well then it was a middle school field trip Jesus

@ethanm7059 5 лет назад

He could have a older sibling he was and visited with them

@RinoaL 6 лет назад

never heard of any of this sports stuff before.

@seandixon3673 7 лет назад

doesn't know or watch college basketball yet knows who Tom Izzo is wtf

@deadjunji4015 5 лет назад

"You must really love basketball" *shows baseball stuff all over his wall*

@kaushikgattu5036 2 года назад

This is basically when you ace an exam that you didn't know was today.

@GreenLeafCityVideoGaming 5 лет назад

*Damn!!! 3 years later!*

@timmyj07 4 года назад

March sadness bracket 2020

@jonahschmeltz2007 3 года назад

Who's here after seeing him on TikTok?

@reece9228 3 года назад

Me. He’s not an expert it was luck so idk why people listened to him

@taterz4502 3 года назад

lmao fuck tiktok

@top10daily60 6 лет назад

Great job.

@samluttrell6961 5 лет назад

"Why do you think he did this good?" *cricket noises* ".......I think he was lucky"

@abdullahiali223 5 лет назад

He don’t want us to tell us his secret method 🧐

@milanv69 7 лет назад

I JUST WANNA SAY GO CUBS, THIS KID KNOWS HIS BASEBALL :D

@christianchamberlin5265 3 года назад

Yessir

@KodyKaz 3 года назад

I remember watching this years ago

@bigbodyboy8657 4 года назад

Sitting here using this as my bracket in 2020

@JulianFernandez1 6 лет назад

He sounds like FaZe Adapt

@zylbr3981 6 лет назад

Julian Fernandez 1018 looks like him too

@shawngrider5421 6 лет назад

you got me laughing so hard and adapt is my favorite youtuber

@donut4me25 5 лет назад

Yes yes yea

@landonaustin4983 5 лет назад

If he didn’t go research why does he now the coach is itilian

@jordanphillips1348 5 лет назад

Glo Sepnu it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out someone with the name “Izzo” is Italian....

@terrybynum5688 5 лет назад

And he said Kentucky wins all the time...

@jonathanduffel8503 5 лет назад

Jordan Phillips How would he know the name of a coach?

@jordanphillips1348 5 лет назад

He said he doesn’t watch much college basketball. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t turn on ESPN now and then. Izzo is already in the hall of fame and still an active coach. Not like you need deep research to hear the name. My gf hates sports and knows exactly who big names in random sports are. If you truly think the kid is lying and did tons of research, that’s your opinion. To me, it doesn’t matter if he did or didn’t. Because obviously research doesn’t translate into bracket success. “Experts” get it wrong every year

@eraphs 4 года назад

”Just pick who you think is gonna win” - Sam Holtz 2016

@hansiano5038 6 лет назад

And its just started starting this year

@stevegoldson67 3 года назад

Actually, based on previous March Madnesses, if you pick the higher seed to win every time (with the favorites being picked in the final four), there’s a 1-in-some 10s of millions that you get a perfect bracket.

@DP-cr1rg 2 года назад

No because Gonzaga exists

@owennielsen9792 2 года назад

Well yes but there will always be upsets so it’s better to get lucky picking the upsets instead of having every favorite win

@stevegoldson67 2 года назад

@@owennielsen9792 this is based on how games have gone in the past and not mathematical analyses. So you’re right.

@zanti4132 Год назад

I'd put it at somewhere between a billion to one and a trillion to one. That number in the quintillions is the number of possible brackets, but obviously some are more likely that others. Some will say you have to pick upsets because there are always upsets, but to know WHICH upsets to pick you'd have to be a time traveler.