Grace, The Boys (this final episode) trended Top 3 in the US around 12am central time. That probaly explains why u didnt see it since it was late where u are at.
Stormfront isn't Jewish, Aya Cash is the one who is Jewish, she just plays an ethnic German. They used a Jewish actress so that real-life Nazis don't fawn over Stormfront and use her as propaganda like many did with 'Man in the High Castle' Show.
Well that and, honestly it feels better from my perspective as a Jewish person too. It’s easier not to slip into a headspace where I can’t separate her from the character.
@@davidgeldner2167 Yeah, i never considered it would feel better from the perspective of a Jewish person for that role to be played by a Jewish woman. I think i understand.
As a “real world” supe show, I thought Black Noirs “kryptonite” being nuts, a common allergy, was actually really smart. Truly emphasised the “human” in “superhuman”.
Really smart and coincidentally low on budget. Thankfully the people that will fall for it can feel smarter than the average viewer and they can collectively stroke themselves.
@@Blizofoz45 He said that while they were jumping her, while they were "getting it done" so idk what the point of you saying that is all I said was that Frenchie said it
@@slade6959 In this case yes, they did have to kill her to win, or at least do what Ryan did, so she couldn't cause more harm, and he didn't even do it on purpose
All that time I was like "why isn't she flying away" until she did 😂 I still think the best use of that line was in episode 5, parodying the "all-female" scene in Endgame.
@National Socialism is the answer People like you that have this need to preach all your ideas and overthink everything someone says is the reason the world is still backwards. Get a life, maybe some hobbies and just relax a little.
P.I Staker. It’s def an extreme case what we saw w that dude, but it’s taking a shot at how all we consume in America news wise is biased opinions that have the intent to spin and divide (weather is Fox or CNN or others). There’s very little value on actual news sources who present news in an objective manner cause shock and division is what sells and many people get to a lower extent “radicalized” and blindly follow that one point of view instead of questioning validity of it.
It's a shame DC wasted her as Katana, because that seems like perfect casting. Oh well, at least now she might have a small role in the upcoming Brad Pitt movie.
No, they shouldn't have broke this season apart into the Ryan storyline and the Vought history storyline. Then Grace's complaint would be 'god these seasons just dragged on and on; they should've combined them'
I agree. Mybe 2 more episodes would make the season more balanced in the story telling But spiliting this season wouldnt be a good idea. Too many of the major theme in those parts connect to each other.
I feel like Ryan and Stormfront combined were necessary for Homelander. Him getting a family is in a way what he wanted, a belonging. Also, it's a reverse version to Butcher.
I honestly feel they should've had more episodes though. It felt like they were jamming way too much story into 8 episodes it did feel kinda rushed honestly.
Butcher raise the kid? Really? Butcher is a psychopath. Maybe not as bad as Homelander, but not a man you want as the father of Superman. Butcher knows this.
I don’t believe Butcher is a psychopath...he had a very rough upbringing and his wife kept all that rage and hate in check, but it consumed him after what happened to her. He is brutal, but he has a conscience.
Butcher's meeting with his father alone would be enough to make me think it's not a good idea. Also, bringing a kid to the group wouldn't work. So I guess it's good he doesn't raise Ryan. But I have to wonder if the Congresswoman can somehow get to Ryan 🤔.
@@keefriff99 also, wasnt he going to kill Kimiko's brother even when he was told about it, as you said, he was consumed by rage to save his family, but he was willing to destroy the family of an ally to do it, and also planned to sold Ryan to Stan Edgar, he is unstable, so I can see why he didnt want to raise Ryan
And yet Grace wants this season to be seperated to 3-4 different seasons. I like the fast-paced nature of season 2, and how all the things connect together. I think the spinoff show might be slower and give more time for things to breathe.
@@magic75450 yeah I think this show would run out of legs if it went too long, 4 season's I think would be enough.. if they go further it might lose steam and go the way of GoT season 8
@@MoONSHO7 Yeah, as long as they don't milk it it's fine to me. I don't know if 4 should be the limit, or mabye they have enough material for 5-6 seasons.
My heart was beat fast when the girls kick her so bad, i felt like she really deserved it since she killed kimiko brother and innocent people in the apartment. I really hate her tho but the team really make her a great antagonist. Such a good actress
@@NguyenQuang-el1kq I don't remember her saying she was Jewish. I remember her clearly saying she was a Nazi and her husband was a scientist that started the super human science
@@NguyenQuang-el1kq I just rewatched the scene, and Stormfront is not Jewish. She shows a picture of her with Himmler and Goebbels so she is definitely not Jewish, it was illegal for an ethnic German to marry a Jew at that stage, so Federick Vought wouldn't marry her and bring her to Goebbels and Himmler. Also, she doesn't once say she is Jewish, so this discussion is dumb.
The creators should ignore all the criticism of wannabes writers and failed artist and continue to do what they are doing. The Boys seasons 1 & 2 were fantastic. Wouldn't change anything.
I feel like she was a distraction for the viewers. We saw her walking outside at the end of episode 6, and then the explosions happened in the end of episode 7. She may come back in season 3, but Stormfront and Lamplighter are dead, so I don't know if it'd add a conflict.
What does the actress being Jewish have to do with her character?? Stormfront is 100% German, born in Berlin. An actor can't play a different nationality or a person of a different religion? You dropped the ball there :)
of course anyone can play anything under the right circumstances, but to pick a jewish actress to play a nazi needs further exploring. It is such a loaded choice and the just didn't address it or dive deeper. and being born in Berlin has nothing to do with how German you are. My grandmothers family were all Jews born in Berlin. And being Jewish is often also an ethnicity not only a religion. Idk I'm not saying it was a good or bad choice it's just a really big one that deserved more unpacking
@@josephheller3825 Yeah, I agree with everything you're saying. Even Aya Cash talked about this topic multiple times in her interviews. It's a subject worth exploring OUTSIDE the show. Grace implied that she wanted that adressed INSIDE THE SHOW, as part of the plot. Which wouldn't make any sense. As far as the PLOT OF THE SHOW goes - the characer, Stormfront is basically German, and has nothing in common with being Jewish.
@@CruderQuotient1 I don't remember at which episode this point was briefly stated, but Homelander is "supposed" to be about 17 years old, which makes me wonder if ageing works differently with some Supes.
I think that the non spark between Stromfront and Homelander was for reason to show that She was just using his wanting to be "held" as an opportunity to advance her agenda.
This is THE best superhero show out there, even better than the movies. Antony Starr should get an Emmy or at least a golden globe. I loved how Maeve was in the backseat for the entire season and then in the last episode she was kind of the MVP. And the scene of the girls beating up Stormfront was very satisfying. No big CGI fights, just the old school fists and kicks.
every time shits going down and i see homelander appearing, i shit my pants a little. im like, 'crap, he's here'. its a credit to the writing acting editing.
@@calebwany8422 pretty sure she followed Stormfront to the Boys' location. When Stormfront was watching the news about her ties to Hitler, Maeve was the only member of the seven who was there and she didn't look very happy, so maybe she decided to follow her bc it's about doing the right thing. And then again she followed her to Ryan and Becca after Stormfront ran away from the scene. Just a theory.
Maeve woke up only near the end of the season by first saving Starlight from Black Noir and then helping with Stormfront. They could not have beaten Stormfront without her. Stormfront was about to kill the whole lot of them or at least do some serious damage when Maeve tapped her shoulder.
I loved this season. The ending was great. I don’t know why it’s a problem to put out week to week episode. For me it’s great. Gives me time to watch other shows I’ve been wanting to watch.
I think you're being too hard on the fun non story related scenes. Everyone wants more of those and more world building. For character driven stories like this, those are the scenes people end up watching repeatedly.
No love for Frenchie? I get you can’t go through all of them, but I thought he had a fantastic season, especially in that Lamplighter episode with his flashbacks.
Your sympathy for homelander is...concerning. He is antagonist. He is a villain. Just because we understand his motivation DOESNT make him some sort of antihero or tragic figure. He is still cruel. He is still disgusting. He raped Becca. He outed Maeve.
Shawn Chavis When I read this at first I was like WTF, but your right, change the gender or the skin colour and the character would not be getting sympathy from any viewer.
@@shawnchavis2102 The truth is that He is so similar in look to superman and Grace is such a huge Superman fan. I think she has this inner thought that he could become what she wants, but the character is never designed for it.
No talk about the character development for frenchie and mother’s milk ? Okay, but I strongly disagree on black noir being the worst. If anything it’s hughie. I’ve never seen a character become so useless. In the first season he helped out the team with his wits, but now he doesn’t even have that.
Gutzz151 he didn’t really save starlight though. He got lucky that lamplighter decided to kill himself by lighting himself on fire causing Vought’s sprinkler system to activate which then allowed starlight to escape the prison she was in by absorbing the electricity
Shawn Chavis but Hughie HAS been pretty useless in season 2 though. His shining moments were back in Season 1. Black Noir’s character is clearly meant to be subtle and mysterious. He’s a damn ninja that doesn’t speak and assassinates on command....he doesn’t need constant character development at this, the writers are taking their time with him
It's so incredibly hilarious how many things bothered Grace for being problematic in this season but yet she thinks Homelander is somehow a "grey" character. Lol She's lacking so much self awareness there.
The Stormfront character was obviously was never Jewish so why are u comparing the character with the actor? Yes, the actor is Jewish doesn't change anything about her acting props capabilities.
The scene with Homelander yanking his chain on the building was actually filmed for season 1! It was one of the only things Amazon didn’t allow! Loved that they used it for season 2 😂 so Grace, I think that scene perfectly captures the character of Homelander. I disagree that it degraded him in anyway
This was by far the best “girl power” scene in a movie or show. Each character had an arc which naturally led them to that scene and in the moment I was just so excited to see these awesome characters beat up a character I loved to hate. And frenchie’s call back to the press junkets was the cherry on top
Agreed I didnt even realize it to frenchie said it was so cleverly done that even though it ended up being a girl power moment it felt like that it was natural and what should've happened
It also helped that nobody else in that scene had powers. So it's not like the boys didn't want to help, they just couldn't. All the females in that scene had superpowers.
Am I the only one that hates "flashback" episodes? I'd prefer a character's past can be peppered throughout the season. It just takes me out of what's going on. Especially when the previous episode ends on a cliffhanger. The Walking Dead did this and it sucked. And it sucks even more for shows that are released weekly. That's my little rant.
Aya Cash is an actor. Stormfront is a character. Why does the ethnicity of the actor matter when playing a role, Grace? (Something you've brought up numerous times.) She did a fantastic job.
I didn’t think Homelande wacking it on the roof at the end was out of character or degrading to his character, it’s very fitting to his character given how one he’s a bit psycho and two, he often does things to prove to himself that he doesn’t need anyone nor needs anyone’s approval to do so. Just like earlier in season two when he killed doppelganger’s neck. Storefront is also a nazi in the comics just a dude not a chick. The boys one of the reasons it’s awesome is because they don’t give a a damn about the woke, PC nonsense that’s ultimately killing shows. Just look at supergirl, batwoman etc
Here is my pet peeve... Stormfront shoots lightning at many humans in the show, and KILLS them on the spot. But when she shoots lightning at Hughie and Frenchie in the finale, they just go flying backwards. Same thing happens in the Umbrella Academy. Power levels shouldn't be dulled just because it's happening to a protagonist.
Rictus River Films agreed. In the first season they really focused on identifying and exploiting supes weaknesses to take them on. That’s how Hughie even ended up on the boys. But this season they show up to fight Stormfront with... a bazooka? I get the show wants to have the boys face the seven sometimes, but they’re gonna have to be more creative with how they do it in the future if they don’t wanna compromise the believability of the world they’ve created.
But how the hell are they gonna take on homelander? Theyre clearly not going with the comic story....but one thing I do think they'll take from it is that the boys will end up taking compound V. They just have to. Cuz like you said, guns and bazookas do nothing. Starlight took that massive shot from billy butcher and it just bounced her back. Why would it work on even more powerful characters
@@jdigga24 Because Frenchie mixed in some special gas that was supposed to work on supes. They did not get to test it. Stormfront destroyed the whole arsenal.
She is working for Vot, if you go back and watch the season there are many hints. The biggest one is that Edger is always watching her during her speeches (as in monitoring her).
Grace! Amazing review! Just one correction. Aya Cash is Jewish, but Stormfront wasn´t. As I recall, the show never said anything about her being Jewish. Wasn't she speaking german while dying and married nazis?
Grace, I disagree about this show needing flashbacks and I’ll tell you why. In real life we can’t watch flashbacks. That’s why people are able to skew history to fit their desired narrative. No one truly knows what has happened in the past, we can only construct what we think happened based on the information we have; information which is often incomplete, inaccurate, or manipulated by those giving it to us. The manipulation of history and the public’s perception of it is very closely related to politics and the show is exploring both of these. I think the absence of flashbacks makes the show much more complex and keeps the audience on the same page as the characters we’re watching.
Loved this season, Tony Starr and Karl Urban- were really acting their asses off, they showed so much range of emotion in this episode. Becca’s death actually made me tear up 😢
Grace, Frenchy did say "Girls really do get it done!" as the ladies beat the shit out of Stormfront! Assuming that's what you meant when saying you wished someone, perhaps one of the guys, reference the whole "Girls Get It Done" thing from before. I distinctly remember it because I also thought it was brilliant! Awesome video as always, keep up the amazing work and thank you for the much needed distraction haha 😁😂👍
I love that the ‘girls get it done’ scene in the last episode . The 4 female supes fighting and it wasn’t forced feminism or tokenism like THAT scene in endgame . And the men just sort of waiting to help and not sure what to do as the ladies were doing it themselves
Haha they blamed Stormfront for Jeffrey Epstein's death This show is amazing! Check under the chyron when the news shows the photo of her and Frederick Vought 😂😂😂
I think Butcher was about to try and kill Ryan before Homelander landed near them. His eyes showed hate and rage. Plus he grabbed the crowbar and was walking towards Ryan.
I want to believe he just heard Homelander coming. Becca asking Butcher to save Ryan and then him hurting Ryan would've been horrible. And Butcher can't hurt Ryan anyway 😂.
@@magic75450 I dunno man. He was looking directly at Ryan, never broke his gaze as the menace increased and he picked up the crowbar and Ryan pleaded that he didn't mean to. It was Homelander's "whoosh" that got him to finally look away, the way he reacted was like he wasn't considering Homelander showing up. Remember, earlier that day he also promised on his dead brother he'd get Ryan and Becca together safe - with no intention to keep the promise until the last second. He spent years hunting Homelander because he thought he was responsible for Becca's death, I don't think it's above him to break a promise in a moment of rage to kill a kid who he recently saw as a "supe freak." I think he just had a change of heart when Ryan picked him over Homelander.
So many things about this review bothered me, especially the take on Aya Cash and how she had to play a Jewish character. Also, the nut allergy humanizes Black Noir. Many others summed up my other issues.
My only complaint is that the seasons are too short. Eight episodes aren't enough. And Grace, I think perhaps you are a bit confused. The actress who plays Stormfront is half Jewish, but NOT the actual character. While Stormfront is not Aryan, she is 100% Nazi. SPOILER ALERT BELOW: Black Noir in the show could still be a Homelander clone. How? What if there are several different Black Noir clones? There is the one that played the piano, the Black one Mr Edgar used and the one that looks exactly like Homelander and raped Becca.
Grace it was trending on Top 3 in the US. I saw it trending the whole time at around 12am central time, which is why you probaly didnt see it since it was late over there. (The Finale)
The only problem that I have is the last fight with the girls. Starlight is suppose to convert electricity to light so I really wanted to see her turn into a literal energy being. Then say to stormfront (whose powerful now Nazi bitch).
Specially when he gasps during the dead whale scene and when he's crying On the floor after the secret about compound v is released to the public lol. It's the little things :)
Antony Starr is such an amazing talent especially with his face acting. My favs are Hughie & Starlight together. I hope they explore Black Noir having possibly a deeper connection with Stan Edgar explaining the loyalty.
I totally agree with Grace. Stormfront is not dead. I think she's going to heal, be released and have one eye like her comic book counterpart. And I would like to see her return. She's awful, yes. But she's the kind of awful that I admire in villains.
@@duckymomo6675 yeah. I think that she can take a hit but will recover regardless. Homelander's power is matured. Ryan had pure rage but if she can survive a young kids blast then the can come back.
When Billy was willing to sacrifice his own life for Ryan is what made me love him all over again. For a moment there, I really thought Homelander was going to kill Billy. I also like the scenes when Billy and Annie bonded.
She just wasn't a priority considering all they had on their plate. They already had the homelander/stormfront storyline, the whole lamplighter thing, butcher trying to get Becca, etc.
I completely disagree with how you think that you can see a good part to homelander. They do highlight how his upbringing affected him but he is just a monster now. Even if he loves Ryan he could never be a good parent as a whole
The Season 2 finale made me love Billy Butcher again. He was my favorite from Season 1. But as I watched S2, I didn't understand his motive? He is risking other people's lives to have his wife back? A wife who chose her son over him?
Becca always had a bad time dealing with superheroes, Barry Allen and Homelander, and now Ryan had to loose someone very close to him, if only she had stayed with Barry things would have been different, but he can fix this......run Barry..... run!!!!!
I really enjoyed this season. I think that it's possible that Cindy is Neuman's daughter with their powers being so similar and she kept mentioning that she had a daughter in the show. Which could also explain why she would work for Edgar, if her daughter was being held hostage she could have made a deal to get her back.... just a theory.
Am I the only one who thinks that reviewers watch stuff only half paying attention? Like they are to busy thinking of the review and end up missing plot points and little details
Originally I thought thought the Church was responsible for the head explosions. Also someone came up with a theory that BN is actually Edgar's son. Does explain why he control over him.
Uh Grace, Frenchie said “I guess girls do get it done.” When they were curb stomping storefront. Easy mistake but I just wish that since you spent a good minute explaining how the lack of a callback bothered you that you would have gone back to the scene and made sure one was or wasn’t there. You even showed the still of the scene with Frenchie, MM, and Hughie where he said it. Thanks and have a good day.
@National Socialism is the answer no clue what your on about, she played the role amazingly and I don't think the fact she's a jew should even be brought up because that had nothing to do with acting
Are you kidding me grace?!?! I LOVED Black Noir this season, he’s my favorite, his action scenes were awesome and the almond joy gag was hilarious. Hopefully will see more of him on season 3.
my friend and I were talking about how smart it was to make it week to week because more people saw it and talked about it every week. The season 2 premiere was able to beat Mando and Stranger things season 1. This is a hit and every season will get better and better and more and more people will watch it as well.
@@JohnnyPappas I think this going to be the new normal for streaming services now (except for Netflix, Hulu, and peacock) they will drop the first 3 episodes all at once and then go week to week.
The best people in The Seven are really the two females. Annie and Maeve have the biggest hearts in the team. They're the most good. Maeve is just tired of it all so she smokes and drinks.
Agreed. Not everyone needs a massive role. The variety of involvement through characters just adds to the whole landscape of the show. A Train and Deep both got fleshed out in a weird and noninvasive way, while the real story was carried by more than enough, heavily involved characters.
I think they could have paced it better, like the later episodes moved too fast, but some of the earlier ones were also too slow! The Deep storyline took a long time in the beginning, but ended so quickly and disappointingly. The Alastair guy seemed important, but ended up so anticlimactic.
Not gonna lie at first i didn't like the weekly release date and was apprehensive about it but it really grew on me and now i like it and it works for this show 😁🔥👊
