The Brutal Downfall of Bobby Fish 

In case you were wondering what the match was at the start of the video… ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OoUgss8yls0.html

“Where’s the lie” could be a great meme catchphrase for him. It would pop the crowd huge now

No offense to Bobby but he kinda needs the The UE to stay relevant and popular. Cole,Strong and O Reilly have shown they can have good singles careers without each other but Bobby hasnt much especially cause hes the most injury prone out of all them despite his talents in Martial Arts and Wrestling

It’s honestly a shame that UE and The Elite didn’t get to do more since it was really just because of injuries. The story was there, the build up was there, but injuries happen.

ReDragon legitimately made me want to be a wrestler. And made me believe that tag team wrestling was an extremely lucrative form of wrestling

Fish didn't debut at the takeover, both him and Kyle debuted against Aleister Black on episodes of NXT before Cole debuted

I watched the whole video, and it only left me with one question… where’s the lie?

It's worth adding here, Bobby Fish wasn't let go from AEW just because they didn't know what exactly to do with him and his contract was expiring. He was actively trying to convince Adam Cole and Kyle O'Reiley to break their contracts and return to the WWE with him. Cole and O'Reiley being happy where they were let Tony Kahn know, leaving him with the choice of keeping someone that actively wants to leave and is trying to convince others to until the people he's aligned with are healthy or let him go to avoid him trying it with others.

Fish is up there in age and was the oldest in their faction, kept getting injured and became the least notable member at the end of their NXT run, so him wanting to branch off and see what he can accomplish isnt strange. I atill think UE can get back together if all them just drop their Egos

His biggest problem was he has been a Team Player for too long: reDragon and Undisputed Era ... it also doesn't help that their team catchphrase was someone else's name. Fans have never really spent a good amount of time with just Bobby Fish, and it's not fair to him to dismiss him so quickly as a singles star. Perhaps a longer run in IMPACT could help him reestablish himself and finally have people chant his name for once; it's helped plenty of other stars (Christian Cage, Drew Galloway, Deonna Purrazzo, Steve Maclin, etc.).

No I agree, I’ve been wanting a full UE reunion in AEW since the group originally disbanded in NXT. If Punk can come back after everything that went down, so can Bobby.

Chances are he will return to the company once Kyle is cleared to wrestle.

I was a fan of Bobby Fish long before he got to NJPW. He was a great performer in ROH and on the US indies prior to ReDragon picking up IWGP tag gold and I think it's a shame that he's had to be the odd man out so many times in the Undisputed Era, even in their current reunion in AEW.

Unfortunately Bobby Fish is likely blackballed like Tino Sabbatelli. Fish was caught helping WWE tamper with contracts, trying to convince wrestlers to demand out of their contracts so they could go back to WWE together. I used to work for a really shady employer that didn't do things particularly legal. They basically had one rule - you could be fired for anything and be welcomed back an infinite number of times UNLESS you messed with the leadership's money. Then you're not even allowed through the doors as a guest or a customer.

Bobby fish was recently in a title match with Josh Alexander and it was pretty good

This just made me miss the Undisputed Era. 😢

I like to think that when he apparently tried to get the rest of the UE to jump ship back to WWE but when he couldn't HHH just decided to tell him "Yknow what, nevermind good luck"

The problem is I just don't think there's enough interest in Bobby Fish. The interest is in the Undisputed Era. I think AEW needs to start focusing on building more credible individual stars as opposed to rehashing another faction

Met him last week, he's fine, I am sure they'll probably bring him back sometime after Kyle O Reilly is cleared if he still wants to go back.

One small correction. Fish and O'reily didn't debut at Takeover. They both had matches on the weekly NXT show against Aleister Black, with Fish debuting before O'reily, though these were their only televised appearances before the Takeover event

Bobby Fish is definitely the Ole Anderson of Undisputed Era

The lie thing forever made him a meme lol

Can please do a video of the rise and fall of Asuka in WWE because there are no words to describe how badly booked she been on the main roster to the point that she wants to go back to Japan

Bobby Fish was out there blasting people while also having level of heat with the fans that X-Pac never saw....He should work a show with Ryback or something

Bobby Fish is actually a great wrestler. I think he over estimated his solo drawing power and how over he was as he is most know as the 4th best member of Undisputed Era and the second best member of Red Dragon. In ROH, the other 3 held the World Title and Bobby held the tv title for example. He didn’t have as much value without the others and he was actually the oldest and most injury prone of the 4. Had Cole and O’Reilly been available, he would have had more leverage as they were intended to be a part of the trios division. However the injuries left him out in the cold. One correction to the video. Adam Cole was the only debut at Takeover. Fish debuted against Aliester Black on NXT tv a few months before and O’Reilly coincidentally also debuted against Aliester Black on NXT tv a few weeks after Fish.

I remember seeing Bobby vs. Kyle at a Evolve show and became a fan. I'm sure he will be back but man he is injury prone

Out of the whole team Fish was always my favorite. He had such a look! Shame how he got to where he is now🥲🥲

I'll say it right here, if Bobby Fish redebuts in AEW and his entrance isn't him responding "Where's the Lie?" to whatever the person in the ring just said, then it would be the biggest botch in the history of wrestling.

Bobby Fish is 40 something and was a lower mid-carder in AEW throughout his run. I don't think you can really say that he had any downfall because it wasn't like he was a main eventer there or even really a mid-carder. In ROH he was a good tag wrestler though and they pushed him there.

Bobby debuted weeks before that PPV you mentioned. One week Aleister Black faced Bobby and the next week he faced Kyle in singles matches. That setup Adam, Bobby, and Kyle all coming out for Adam's debut.

We definitely need the Elite v Undisputed 4 v 4 for sure

He didn't fumble anything. Workers gotta work. Between Cole and O'Riley's injuries, he had to make a living and wrestle with some purpose outside of Dark and Elevation. He'll be back when everyone is cleared to go at some point.

how much fish could Bobby fish, fish if Bobby fish could fish fish? -Matt Riddle😂

It sucks that they were all there and were building tension for Adam to split with the Elite when Omega returned and we’d get UE vs The Elite…but then Adam and Kyle were injured…all for nothing. 😢

Bro not only got booed but Cm Punk chants in his OWN HOMETOWN That's gotta be a top 5 "Not Him" moment in Wrestling History 🤣🤣🤣 Memes aside i do hope he comes back.

Biggest Bag Fumbler of "All Time"? I still gotta go with Warrior trying to hold up Vince for more money and then getting canned. He missed out on millions. Great video though

Who says Bobby Fish has had a downfall? Who says the two major companies in the United States are the end all and be all of professional wrestling? Is there anything wrong with being a free agent? Also, by the time Kyle O'Reilly comes back his contract may expire. I believe he is likely to rejoin Fish. Red Dragon is a hot commodity, as you mentioned, and as free agents they can go anywhere they want to--Impact, the indies, Japan, maybe even back to AEW at some point. We'll have to see.

On a side note when Fish was injured in NXT Kyle, Adam and Roddy held it down as a trio, so they will again wherever Kyle comes back from injury in AEW.

Honestly, I think Bobby fish should be brought on as a coach for either the WWE performance center or whatever developmental program AEW has. He's past his prime, but he's a solid performer. He's more than likely a wellspring of entering knowledge and could help the next generation of wrestlers.

Bobby Fish most likely was tired of the way he was being booked in AEW and tried to do what Frankie K did when he left AEW for Impact.

Where's the lie 😂

The moment Roderick Strong appeared on AEW I was like: "Bobby Fish huh? Welp, see ya later"

Fish debuted before Cole showed up in NXT. I believe it was in June.

"Where's the lie?"😂

Bringing him back to do the UE vs NJPW Elite would be awesome then have them go into a faction war with other teams like Jericho Appreciation Society, Blackpool Combat club. Then Blow it off in a Wargames like Stadium Stampede match.

Bobby Fish's impact promo was dead because Bully Ray was going on and on for like 8 min before he showed up. His AEW matches was pretty good and honestly he shit talked CM Punk who at this point deserves it after Brawl Out. I can see him being brought back.

Objectively he’s a great pro wrestler so why wouldn’t they bring him back? I think they’ll do that when Kyle is back. That’s the big injury question when can Kyle return bc he was doing amazing before his injury

It's like Stu Grayson... he got some problems with Tony Khan, and he got released, but now he's back

Fun note The Ring of Honor Championship O'Reilly, Cole, Strong all held it Bobby Fish is the only one that didnt, that says something

His impact career is really weird. When he showed up at the victory road he got big crowd reaction like the fans where happy to see him. But then he got Cm Punk chants at Bound for Glory, then he got no reaction to legendary where's the lie and then some people in the crowd were cheering for him in the impact world title match with Josh Alexander and it was the last thing he did in impact. It's so weird that everyone was happy to see him only for one night

Being real. Bobby is a talented wrestler and a good worker in the ring. He just doesn't have any wow factor. Which is probably why he didn't get his break until he was like 40. Dudes 46/47 now and probably won't have as high a point in his career as his NXT Undisputed Era run.

Bobby Fish tried to convince Adam Cole & KOR to leave AEW & go back to WWE. They both refused. ..This was all over the Wrestling News in 2022!

Everyone forgets that Kyle O'Riley is out after neck fusion surgery which is the same thing that put edge out for years. Kyle very well could be out for years. I hope I'm wrong

The moment Bobby Who verbally attacked CM Punk was the beginning of the end for this weakest member of the UE. No one pays to see Fishy Bob, this man never drew a dime, never drew ratings.

I was there with a friend for that fatefull Impact TV taping. Bound for Glory the night before was amazing. The TV taping was the shits. It started late because the state athletic commission required ambulance was not on site, so Tommy Dreamer came out and did wrestling trivia with fans for merch for 45 minutes. It really killed the mood and was somewhat of a sign of things to come. The matches were kinda meh. The angles were even more meh. I wasn't trying to see Bully Ray in title picture again. The "where's the lie?" promo happenend and it was so awkward it was surreal. Side note the crowd was about 60/40 with him when he debuted the night before because he'd been making comments about possibly fighting CM Punk for real. Because this was in his hometown, he actually managed to stand a chance in the dueling CM Punk/Bobby Fish chants during Bound for Glory. But for that TV taping, nobody gave a shit. It was so boring we left early.

I remembered that Squiqward watching Spongebob and Patrick meme as soon as I saw Roderick Strong in AEW😂

Saw him wrestle Will Osprey at 1PW All or Nothing at Doncaster Dome, last Saturday (22/4/2023). He had descent match. Needs to lose a few pounds.

Seeing him call out CM Punk after he kicked out of the GTS and almost ruining the match, where's the self awareness?

“Where’s the lie?” 🤦‍♂️

I know he's injured but when bobby fish and Kyle O'Reilly return we could see the return of the undisputed era in aew

The Chinese wrestling fanbase called Bobby Fish as "glass man" (玻璃人) because his frequent injures literally made him look like as fragile as glass.

Fish should have been called The Ultimate Jobber

"I mean... where's the lie?" *crickets

Pretty much think the same. Would love to see him reunite the full UE in AEW, but after the way he burned his bridges, i sadly don't see it happening.

Everything you said in this video is completely accurate I mean folks, where's the lie?

>Roderick Strong, Kyle O'Reiley and Adam Cole are all in AEW Hunter is probably having a stroke right now. His entire stable is on the rivaling brand now

Bobby burned bridges by trying to convince Kyle and Adam to go back to wwe. As far as I'm concerned, his real name is Bobby snake

I mean, where’s the lie?

There's about 100 guys in AEW that they should have released or not signed instead of Bobby Fish.

Darby Allin will always be the biggest bag fumbler as long as gigi dolin is breathing

I'm not gonna make a fuss about whatever Bobby Fish said about TK or CM Punk's kicks. Because wrestlers (especially disgruntled ones) talk smack about their former bosses or other wrestlers they may not like too much. He could've just been blowing off steam because of pent up anger and frustration. And what did Fish say exactly? Was it really so harsh that he doesn't deserve to be in a ring again? Let's not pretend wrestlers other that Fish have gotten away with worse. No matter what Bobby Fish said about Tony Khan and CM Punk's footwear, it doesn't compare to atrocities superstars have gotten away with over the years.

I completely forgot Kyle O'Reilly was in AEW.

He is absolutely not needed. He was terrible in his entire AEW run. That kick out of the GTS he not only should have been fired he should have been fined, suspended and than fired for it. You literally could just have Strong and Oreilly team up and have a good enough version of Red Dragon without him. He is worthless as a single with that deep AEW roster, and Red Dragon was a great tag team but we don't know when Kyle is coming back, Bobby has no other value without him. The things he said after he left don't let the door his his ass on the way out forever. AEW can't even fit Miro and Andrade on their shows and both of them are better than Bobby ever was.

I mean folks, where's the lie?

Really wanted that blow off between Red Dragon and The Bucks. Just sucks that injuries got in the way there.

some good matches they can have like undisputed era (cole, bobby, kyle, strong) vs the elite (kenny, hangman, bucks) undisputed era vs bcc undisputed era vs hob

Hey no Bobby fish disrespect will be tolerated . That’s a good dude.

Couple things Bobby did have a mini feud with Roddy before he left and the climax of the u.e. vs the elite other than that triple threat tag match was Cole turning on the bucks

Jerk Jackson is the kind of name that could have made him an all-timer. And I’m not joking as much as one might think when I say that

I know the match from the opening of this video. the match showing the pinfall. I saw the video of that match some months ago and that match was AWESOME!

I've been a reDRagon fan since I saw them in NJPW, and that tag team is where he, and quite honestly, O'Reilly, thrive. Cole, Fish, O'Reilly and Strong vs. Omega, The Bucks and Page could be an amazing rivalry in AEW.

I saw one tweet where bobby fish vs cm punk. At the finish, bobby was trying to kick out from punk’s finisher even though he was not suppose to.

UE vs Elite happened in both NJPW & ROH.

Adam Cole is in a program with Chris Jericho at the moment, and Kenny Omega and The Elite are involved with Blackpool Combat Club. Elite beat the BCC in Anarchy in the Arena, and Jericho beats Cole after interference from his JAS stablemates at Double or Nothing. Then, if Kyle O'Reilly is able to do so, he will come back at some point shortly thereafter. Cole, Fish, O'Reilly and Strong would face Jericho, Garcia, Menard, and Parker in Blood and Guts, which Undisputed Era(or whatever they end up deciding to call themselves because Undisputed Era is a WWE trademark) win, leading to the Final Battle at All In London(or All Out because who knows if All In London is going to replace All Out).

ngl 3 out of 4 members have 0 charisma adam cole has charisma but he looks smaller then most women wrestlers so ye

I don't understand why developers make games so hard that they lose sales? I get trying to appeal to hardcore gamers, but at the cost sales? of course, make the default difficulty what you want. just offer casual difficulty settings. make the game shorter. don't give an ending. offer less weapons or power upgrades. giving someone who wouldn't have bought your game a chance. I can't tell you how many games I didn't buy because of the consistent difficulty issue in reviews. if people know that they can tone it down while losing some things it'll surely increase sales.

He is very dedicated because a few years ago I met him and I was in my mid 50’s at the time and found out he was just a few years younger than me?

When he tried to make Punk look weak for seemingly no reason but spite then he was always going to struggle to be looked at seriously after

I love Bobby. I would love to see him back in Impact, either teaming with an upcoming talent, imagine Fish and Bailey together, or alongside someone like Josh Alexander.

I mean, can you blame Bobby, he has been wrestling since 1856 and it was said that he was the special guest referee when Jesus took on Satan in the Pits of Hell match 🤣

Really no mention of how he went to business for himself in the match vs CM Punk?

Miss those ReDragon matches vs bucks on Roh

He was just at show Atomic Legacy Wrestling. My buddy and his faction jumped him. I was just confused on how he ended up there honestly.

Agree strongly, give him a year in AEW now, UE v elite is money

The ReDragon each debuted with close losing efforts as singles in NXT vs Aleistar Black? Before they formed the faction at the PPV.

Left out the most important part of how he buried himself in AEW & got himself let go - he was intentionally sandbagging CM Punk in the ring AND kicked out of the GTS despite it being the planned finish (& the ref still counting to 3). If you're going to be super unprofessional in the ring, probably not best to do it against the company's (& arguably the business's) biggest star, especially when you're not in some major program. If you're Tony Kahn (or Vince or HHH), you can't have a wrestler doing that, period. He would've been fired from WWE too if he did that to say, Roman Reigns. And then afterwards he was apparently super vocal backstage that he was unprofessional on purpose b/c he didn't like Punk & a bunch of dumb reasons. He immediately stopped getting used & then had his contract not renewed. And afterwards, he publicly said why he did it - b/c Punk stole Kenta's move like 20 years ago, and he & his friends (the Elite) don't like Punk b/c he's overshadowing them, and someone needed to do something about it, and said he was right & would do it again - this is like giving himself the death sentence, b/c as a promoter you can't trust him. He's also a complete idiot, b/c he thought his friendship with the Bucks would save him and he could get away with doing whatever he wanted.

Even if AEW doesn’t want to sign Fish to a full-time deal, I still think they could bring him for at least a few weeks, so we can get that 4v4 against The Elite. It’s a dream match! AEW vs. NXT (& it should be at 1 of the 4 PPVs.)

It’s weird we didn’t get Redragon vs FTR or Redragon vs The Bucks in AEW

I agree , I like him as a mid card and it feels like one meme is hurting his career which is sad

When I saw the clip of him, doing a promo on Impact, but the crowd was dead silent, I realized he just dig himself a grave. What a shame.