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Do you know, why they re planting trees on that excavation site? It seems that they don't want to further excavate it. And surely the roots of the trees will cause damage to what is underneath it. I don't understand what are they doing there?
I watched a video on the destruction being done at Gobekli Tepe I dont think the Turks should be in charge of such projects. They are nowhere near the levels of British archaeologists and how they built the viewing platform and roof going right into the complex what are these boneheads doing. They also highlighted the orchards they planted for some unknown reason, if you have an archaeological site thats 10 times the size of whats already been excavated why would you plant trees directly over it. Why dont they ever invite in top western archaeologists or even grad students looking to get some experience like they do in countless other ancient sites across the world. Turkey arent known for their archaeology and its plain to see...
@@dreddykrugernew The British are the biggest pick pockets and thieves in town. They should be locked on their Island and never allowed to leave. When they return the Rosetta stone and the Greeks Marbles then talk to me about the british thieves like Thomas Bruce, 7th Earl of Elgin. Would have to be a shirt lifter. that one.
Sadly, the historic site of Göbekli Tepe will not be excavated any further as the Turkish government has planted groves of trees (~3:22) and built concrete roads covering the site for tourists to view the excavated area. The government stated that it would leave the remainder of Göbekli Tepefor for later generations to dig. What are they trying to hide?!
The WEF gave $15million to the Turkish government to leave it as tourist attraction and "let the next geneation" discover it. They did it through the company that owns and manages the site.
@@LetteringTheLord Yes that pretty much sums it up. Stop excavations at the 5% only of the site point at arguably the place that has attracted the most world wide attention of any archeological excavation on the planet. They said save it for future generations because they will have better technology for excavations but of course at any point in the future you could say that too. "preserve " the site for future generations they said and then went ahead and drilled holes for cement support pillars for the cement viewing platforms at the site and built road and sidewalks over the site - then capped their "preservation" effort off with a huge orchard with trees whose roots will do lots of damage to the circles underground. Yes its an outrage all round.
It's so they can make it purely a tourist point like the pyramids. If you excavate too much there will be no mystery and thus less buzz about it. Also it already makes all those with "knowledge" that rail against earlier civilizations coming before their own precious one that they spent their whole career on.
@@thorlivingstone6873 What makes you think that? They've turned it into a visitor centre and planted an orchard of fruit trees over a large area, along with roads, pathways and the supports for the covered area go deep into the ground on the site which no doubts has caused damage. Do you have evidence that excavations are continuing? Just curious why you think this.
Explorations can always continue again. I'm sure they have more material than a team of people could ever study in a lifetime given the number of sites and some of them have never been dug at all.
@@JonnoPlays But that's the thing, the only material is the site, the stones, it was filled in so no tools or jewellery to be found, there is differences in how it was filled in which will tell it's own story but it is awful that excavations have been stopped.
If the pillars were reused, that doesn't mean they weren't sacred, just that they weren't sacred to the people who reused them. They may have taken them and then made them sacred for themselves. It's akin to saying "a church being built on top of a pagan temple proves the pagan temple wasn't sacred". Not to the Christians it wasn't, but it certainly was to the pagans. Even ancient Egyptians would do something like that from time to time "I want that, it's mine now. Scratch the other guy's name off and put mine on instead. Now the gods will smile on ME." or "I'm building a wall, go get some stone from the old pyramid over there." I'm not saying tepe t-pillars were sacred, just that reuse doesn't prove they weren't/never were.
Not every structure is " ritualistic ". It's often the first thing archeologists jump to. It's very possible that the carvings relate to family/clan groups and denote food storage areas for said groups. It's extremely difficult for we modern people to understand what's going on here and is degraded by our putting our societal norms on the ancient people. We also get very invested in the first explanations of places and find it hard to let it go.
Some pillars are blank. Wondering whether the carvings were added prior to burial in order to confuse anyone who might discover the sight; or even more recently for that matter..
To bad the WEF funded footpaths and structures that might have been built on top of ground that hasn't been dug up at all yet! What might be under the ground that is under the new footpaths?
If I were responsible for protecting a site that will attract a million visitors a year, I would want the damage done by that foot traffic to be restricted to a limited area.
Reuse and changes don't surprise me. I live in a 150 year old home that I'm slowly renovating. You can see the original design choices and then the changes over time as others used different technology and made aesthetic changes. BTW the changes in the 70's were the worst ones so far. You have to move slow because someone back in time made some change and didn't understand how it weakened the structure. I had a whole upper floor sagging because someone decided to put a wall on the first floor and removed a main support joist in the process. That was fun to repair. Anyway...If I've experienced these changes in a 150 year old house...a 13000+ year old site might have a few changes and reuses of its own.
What!?😂😂😂 Education is piss poor.. according to the people that serve you your thought's and world view's the wheel wasn't invented yet. Put on your thinking cap little buddy... a T-Rex thigh bone was found with dna on it with tissue that would be impossible to be true according to the million's and billion's of year's theory! Now more are being found because they never tested for it because it was assumed to be pointless because of the supposed age. Put in youtube "man walked with dinosaur proof" and find a good documentary.. Don't assume anymore and find out why all the propaganda is pushed. Look up "operation mocking bird" where certain gov agencies were allowed to make bs up and run it on the news.. This world isn't as you think it is..@@JonnoPlays
Matt I just want to compliment your patience with people in the comments. When I was exploring the “Graham Hancock” stuff years ago, you are what got me through it and interested in real archeology. You didn’t make us feel stupid, you just stated the facts and let us find our own way. Thank you for another great video!❤
This channel is amazing. Its the middle road. It's not total mainstream takes, and its not Left field like Ancient aliens type folks. Just the most, clearest,.findings and information.. I saw someone mentioned G. Hancock.. Of course in that same sentence I have to include Randall Carlson as well . With Graham I feel like he isn't taken nearly as seriously by his peers due to his claims of alien type intervention in building the worlds befuddling sites. Randall seems to get more respect,and has great conversations and debates with folks who are in the mainstream. He never points his finger at aliens or other less acceptable theories. I appreciate all the work, and information that all of these folks complete and share. Its more than appreciated.
The elders complained about how the young people had it too easy and back in their day they didn't have things like stone points and wall inscriptions and how they liked it that way
When Gtepé was first discovered, I'm pretty sure there were no orchards within miles of the site. Why would anyone plant orchards right on top of such an important site? What are they trying to hide from us?
@@julianciahaconsulting8663 Danke für die Bestätigung meiner Vermutungen👍🏻.....Noah's Ark is probably just beneath those highly suspicious historical evidence hiding orchards lol.
Maybe they have a different philosophy regarding ancient things. After every two steps you walk there in Turkey you stand the chance of literally tripping over something historically monumental. To the locals, I imagine stopping any progress for them just so that more old stuff can be dug out of the ground is an unnecessary interruption to their lives. There's no conspiracy to it, just they'd have limited appreciation for something they have no use for.
10:15 - 'The broadside shows chisel marks'... I wasn't aware they had chisels that could do this 11,000 years ago, especially as the Egyptians only had bronze tools 4,000 years ago!
Thousands of years from now people will wonder why a grove of trees were planted in this area. For that matter I have no idea why that was done even now.
@AncientArchitects - question - Why are there trees planted on areas that have more structures related to the entire area? I am not happy they did this. Plus why don't they go deeper?
According to the archaeologists, there are 2 reasons: 1) The trees were planted when the land was still privately owned by farmers - not government so they could technically do as they please. 2) The archaeological remains are covered in rock debris. The olive tree roots will only stay in the top-soil, the roots will grow horizontally on reaching the rock layer. Apparently the roots stop the soil from moving with the rain or flash floods, so apparently, they say the olive trees protect the soil and don’t affect the archaeology.
@@AncientArchitects I'll take your word for it. I have been a long time 3-4 years. I've really enjoyed your videos, I mostly listen to them because I'm working for a living. ( Living and a working, I'm taking what they're given cause I'm working for a living.) LOL Sorry about that brain fart.
@@AncientArchitects The archeologist wife of the now dead german archeologist who discovered the site was outraged by what had been done at GK with the roads. sidewalks, viewing platforms and...the orchards.
Why has the WEF stopped all Archeology at Gobekly-Tepe and planted trees on top? They poured concrete and built tourist paths after only excavating 5%. What do they not want people to learn from their past?
The truly amazing issue about the site being pre-pottery neolithic is that so much work has been put into decorative/expressive/symbolic(??)artwork of animals and humans,yet no vessels to store foodstuffs or eat off of? That's just wild to me because in art school we were taught so much about functional pieces vs art. Its just mind-blowing how much work was being put into recording the animals they interacted/saw/ate or expressing them as symbols or story telling when they couldve been creating more utilitarian objects...just amazing😮😅❤❤❤❤❤ Thank you so much for the program,really great one here yes I immediately recognized the v shaped collar/necklace of Urfa man on the pillar drawing. I have often wondered if the same artist was going around to all the sites creating art for the community of the leopards and foxes and the human figures are all detailed so very similarly it is just uncanny. There is definitely a relationship to much of the art in many tas tepeler sites. Your aerial views and this figure have really made me want to see Gobekli Tepe myself even more now!!!! THANK YOU😊😊😊
As ‘pre-pottery’ was mentioned, I thought: maybe associated pottery has just not been found yet. I have no idea, but it’s amazing to think such sophisticated works were done ‘pre-pottery’.
It really shows how the "farming good" presumption that hunter gatherers are starving and impoverished but they were rich beyond imagination. Go anywhere and just take food, prepare it where you want and spend your time going and doing whatever is important to you. Home is genuinely where you keep your heavy treasure like statues or community structures. Fewer humans yes but much larger lives than numerous toiling monoculture short-lifers good mostly for conquering your richer neighbors. My point was 2 million years compared to a few thousand, i think we made some unfortunate choices a ways back and we arent going in the best direction this age.
Because there's such little interest in digging deeper and considering some pillars are blank ...I wonder whether the carvings were added prior to burial in order to confuse anyone who might discover the sight; or even very recently for that matter.. 🤔
My question is not so much whether it is real or fake.But I see highly respected creators, just like ancient architects, asking the same questions, year after year. as if finding answers outside the realm of accepted is not allowed. the authorities of Egypt, for example, block serious investigations by third parties. so that what remains can be seen as breadcrumbs without clues. So what if Gobleki Tepe is a hoax?
I've been there(Gobleki Tepe and Karahan Tepe) by myself in april. You can hire a driver to go to see that, or drive yourself, or get a bus from Sanliurfa to Gobleki Tepe which is very cheap, 20 Turkish lira. Looking forward to visiting many other places soon!
I didn’t know anything about it. It’s all covered with the packing stones today to protect it. I left a link to an online 3D model you can play with. And we still need to have that call - sorry!
@@AncientArchitects dude don’t apologize. I am going to get on top of this site quickly. I agree with what you found there and now I think the pillars may relate to other pillars I have seen. We definitely need to do a zoom call in the near future. Awesome video! It amazes me how many amazing things are just sitting there not calling attention to itself.
Matt, if we hypothesize that static living on a hill top opens the need for water and food storage for let's say one year (assuming the need to survive a bad year) than 1 adult person would need some 0.2 m^3 on dried or smoked food and 1 m^3 of water. If we assume 100 adults, this would imply a storage of 20 m^3 for food and 100 m^3 for water. Could the 'benches' be storage room away from rodents and bugs and could the massive pillars have carried atticks for food storage? Could terrazzo floors be used to make them bug thight and the massive walls hinder animals to enter the buildings? In other words: to what extent might these buildings been used a part of the year to store food? Your architect friend already made a reconstruction for a wooden structure, but would an attick on top of the pillars be possible?
In short no. Humans dig wells. Storage requires no co2. That is achieved by placing food in a sealed hole with a trace of life to consume the oxygen and create co2.
I could have sworn I saw something like a Salamander/Gecko on one and a wild pig on another. For the life of me I couldn't see a dog in profile or a leopard. Also, is it possible the T-tops were moved from location to location?
were the pillars erased and eroded due to a conscious decision bc of reuse? Or were they losing their distinct detailed carvings from being weathered and eroded due to being exposed on the surface for potentially 1000s of years? If the pillar was only partially erased that tells me it was only partially exposed to the surface so the buried portion retained its carving while exposed was weathered away. Didn't farmers complain of getting farm equipment stuck/snagged on the "rocks" protruding from the ground before the site was known?
When i got intrested in ancient sites, older less known and controversial places were never talked about, it angers me that a lot of the most interesting places are seen more on ancient aliens videos witha massive miss interpretation but with little other information about them. This site always covers them in a perceived unbiased way and i love this about the channel.
When I look at the pillars it looks like roof support of course nice support but it could be understandable that those could be reused or how during times later efforts might not be as ornate due to social/environmental changes.
Claims are that the site was buried, yet there's evidence of damage to certain of the structures. Could it have been the victim of a tsunami type flood?
It's interesting that they always say "this is 12,600 years old", without realising the civilization that built it was probable around for 1,000 years before that, building up to the technology of this site. We act as though because the aeroplane came into existence in the 1920s, civilization began in the 1920s! So I would say civilizations existed 15,000 years ago!
At the very least, they have found 250,000 yr old perfectly preserved mummies, however the people of so called archaeological community does not give credit to civilizations they have decided we’re just hunter gathers I find it ridiculous!
I really believe these sites in southern Turkey are pushing against the traditional cradle of civilization. They may not completely change history like most expected but to see mankind's ingenuity and bond going so far back is amazing.
I remember when this first started been here sincei was the 3rd sub. There used to be lots of AA news. Now not so much. Everyday i find atleadt two new sites oe news or relatives to said subject. I do very much enjoy your channel and happy that you have recently gotten to make it to Egypt. You really haven't said anything about your thoughts or observations. But thank you for another good upload.
There is so much still underground and the stewards there thought it a good idea to plant those tree orchards? Root systems are destructive. They've paved road up to the side of a section for easier access, again on top of un-dug areas. Why??
Very interesting. I wonder how the future study and archeological digs will be impacted since the wealthy Turkish benefactor has given control of the site to the WEF !
The word is that the WEF has taken complete control of the Gobekli Tepe site, and is destroying the site by building structures on top of the site before any full excavations. They have shut it down! SICK!
@@orchidorio The wife of the archeologist who died is really up set about it. Dig for the truth. Looks bad. What was found, or what narrative is the WEF the cooking up?
Thank you for continuing to record and show the new Mirazan sites (the original, local Kurdish name for the recent official gov name). Mirazan ("miracle maker"). the local, childless women give offerings at the hill, hoping for a child. The fertility myth of the hills, still lingers. Mirazan is the meaningful, local name for this entire super old civilization/culture. A lot better than the silly name of Gobekli ("potbelly")-- given to it by the ruling government there . I hope you continue showing us more and more of the Mirazan sites as they get dug up
At this level of our knowledge, excavation is impossible, because scientists do not understand what they are digging and what is the purpose of what they find. This should be the subject of research for future generations, whose knowledge will be enough to understand what these ruins are, who built them when, and for what. The hypotheses that scientists are voicing now do not withstand criticism.
As a sculptor for over 50 years, wood, stone wax & clay for metal casting, ... I say phooey. These look like frauds, done by an amateur agent. Even the stacked rocks look fake. Much like many so called 'new finds' in India or Mexico. Not all, but many. The real ones are easy to discern. imo
Hi Matt. I can tell you what happened here, with this repurposing of the pillar with the image of the little man. This image is likely related to descendants of paternal haplotype C. There are early DNA signs in Turkey and Europe are C type. Cannibalism violence amd conquests are related even in modern times. A move in to, or conquest of, could have happened. I know it looks like a little grey suited scaley alien/little people. But, I live with descendants of C types, and am familiar with the body shape depicted, and their trampling of other races in history, such as the Southern coastal Asian near their Papua New Guinea settlements lands, which led to the hybrid Polynesians, the regions behind the Altai, and back through Schythian regions. It maybe one of the biggest reasons for lack of early records in many places included, and the portrayal of the Kingdom of lower Egypt resembles these people. However, notice the pillars have a side on human motif of the skinny man, you see front on depictions in Siberia beyond the Altai. With an elongated head, and notice at 8:39, in the video, the hands have 6 fingers, if you look for the short thumbs, which doesn't wrap around the pillar much, and does appear as if something has tried to knock them off to make them less obvious. The area of Turkey stretching from pontus downwards, is associated with tall 6 fingered ones, as tall as the pillars. Time to give in Matt!
I am confused about the t-shaped stone pillars. Were they carved from stone in situ or were they sculpted elsewhere and moved to the site? If they were made and moved from elsewhere, then why were they made at all? If the t-shaped pillars were architectural structures for, say, roof support, then why not use wood rather than carve, transport, and place massive stone structures? Wood is more economical, easier to work, and less labor intensive.
So glad the planted goddamn orchards on top of the site. That will really help to make sure that the rest of perhaps the most important archeological site in the world isn't excavated. I mean, it's not as good--or bad--as the road the Turkish government built, or the permanent visitor's center and walkways, but every little thing they can stick on top of the dirt helps to make it that much more difficult to ever find out what's beneath. But I'm sure it's probably nothing of note down there, right? That's why so little has been uncovered in the past decade or so, no doubt.
Ah. Upset that you have been denied the opportunity for a third party to confirm your vague theories? Face the facts. Digging up the entire area of Europe will not advance anyone's knowledge. Certainly not yours.
The fact that Building F is closer to the modern surface than A, B, C and D does NOT necessarily mean that it's younger. It just means that less sediment has accumulated above it, likely because there was not as much occupation in that part of the site during the rectangular building phase, or just because it's in a downslope part of the hill. It could be a bit later, but it could even be earlier. You need to do a proper stratigraphic analysis and get some radiocarbon dates to find out its chronological placement.
Whether the images were sacred or not depends on the current religion. For example look at the 2000 year history of the Christian Church and the differences in what is considered sacred between the various Christian Cults many of whom would gladly destroy tie sacred iconography of the others, a thousand years can make a lot of difference in cultural attitudes.
Gobekli Tepe is built in a circular fashion as is Stonehenge which was the pinnacle of being a sophisticated mechanical clock from surveying Heaven and Earth, a carving of a face has been found on one of its stones. Troy was established where the topography was of concentric rings in North Western Anatolia along the lines of being part of the Atlantean Empire. A settlement was established at Gobekli Tepe South Eastern Anatolia so terraforming the environment taking advantage of the seasonal cycle using the location for farming wild prey having food in abundance it would have become an attraction over the years so it looks like the more animals were killed over the years the less important the motif thus the more humans become more prominent in the motifs becoming corrupted robbing from the nomadic lifestyle using the settlement as a machine to do work instead where to live with the natural environment you would of had to of been of a higher moral discipline making the right decisions to endure to survive harsh conditions as a whole, so settlements such as Gobekli Tepe developed as such destroying the environment creating harsher conditions and this was already happening for domination where males would try to plant their seed being greedy to have power for themselves trying to offer women a better life creating an imbalance so murdering any competition that they can going against our true evolutionary path becoming weaker in fact not keeping to our true biorhythm pacing themselves for the long endurance that is necessary for survival depending on a machine that is out of tune with nature!
Working with modern groups, just because the iconography was erased does not mean it wasn't sacred to the new builders. The stone itself has become sacred, the images are remembered by the stone. Only humans forgot them. I assume we have a similar belief set in this area at this time.
Maybe the people of Goebekli Tepe in Turkey was warned of an impending flood or catastrophe and buried the site almost like Noah was warned and built a boat
Very interesting maybe humans going through some terrible times so ideas changing and importance of things changing. Possible just trying to survive in a underground structure so have benches to sleep on. This is the younger dryis period and may have gotten suddenly colder and little food?
Im looking at the drawing of the people building the structure. When you look at the entrance it looks like it might be a store house. The different rooms could hold different types of food. If there are any fire pits in a room they might have some farm of smoked meats. All they had to do was build wooden racks to hang the meats on build a fire and close the room up. Other rooms might have had baskets made from grass to hold grain. Of course the wooden racks and grass baskets would rot away over years. You show people with houses off from the round structure ,so no one lived in the round building. They had to gather food as it ripened so a store house would definitely be needed. Not every structure we find is a temple. I really don't think that was how they would worship their gods. I think out in the open under the stars would be more like it.
the full picture may be hard to see due to people making everything a deep dark secret of hidden meaning, codes and the cosmos. maybe it isn't that complicated
@@AllHailDiskordia yea, but explain to me how planting trees on ground that is burying structures will prevent erosion of those structures. For thousands of years GT has been protected from erosion by the dirt that has buried them. Those trees do one thing, give an excuse to not excavate the sites they sit upon.
One feature of carving a human figure us a self representaion, a sort of pre writing form of I was here, thus us me, or this is us rather than a super natural god. In much the same way as the many cave paintings portrayed daily life and not the here after.
Perhaps the shift from hunting to farming was a factor in the changes of images and uses for the buildings. I wonder if religion is a sign of stress rather than a time of calm and plenty.
