Here is why Muslims would never convert to Christianity : If Jesus is a loving god and only way to Heaven then why did he remain silent for 30 years while growing up in Jerusalem? How many people died and will go to HELL because he did not tell anybody who he was while growing up ? I would say that is opposite of LOVE.
@@dfwtransport2420 Who said anybody is going to Hell? That is Allah, who is eager to send people to Hell. Not the God of Christianity, which is a loving and just God.
@@thinkingperson2122 Another danger I feel about Islam is that during the second coming of Jesus Christ, all other religions will see him and believe in him..but d muslims still will say he is prophet n not repent n be deceived..
@@justinjolly4513 Well. Jesus was pure, sinless, Allah went out of his way to save him from death, was ascended by Allah, is alive, will come back... but hey! we Muslims are so particular that we just want to copycat that other nasty guy who nobody knows whether he even existed. That is... that is... well, that just one unbelievable things about Islam, amongst many.
@@thepoorsultan5112 So you do not have an argument against what is taught here, or are you trying to keep Muslims in the dark about Islam? So tell me, why do you believe that Mohammed was a prophet of our Almighty God of the Bible at all? And do remember if Mohammed is not a prophet of Islam, then all of Islam collapses like a house of cards in the wind.
Do you really have to listen to the words of a chimera who only lives by criticizing the legends that founded civilization? Because yes, miserable and beggars are those who, like this chimera, live only by the criticism of people whose destiny and legendary achievements have shaped their legend and with it the history of a civilization which will have been the beacon of humanity. For centuries... This chimera is either stupid and dull, or in bad faith because the one who makes history and who wants to be objective does not listen to these two-ball discussions on the set where only the miserable find pleasure in trying to smear the honors of the great. , those who want to be objective and in good faith analyze the facts, facts rooted in history, here are facts: The Rashidun Caliphate and the Rightly Guided Caliphs (الخلفاء الراشدون) it's: - An expansion which from two villages of the hejaz will have conquered all the territories from the gates of India to the gates of Morocco in just 14 years and with very weak means, this by literally crushing the two most powerful empires of that time which although having lasted for centuries have been swept away in just 4 years by Bedouins. - An army which with only 13,000 men (untrained Bedouins) initially in 632 and having reached a maximum of 80,000 men in 636 (but that after the bulk of the battles) swept two empires endowed if we add their forces to 500,000 soldiers in 4 years (with the decisive battles of Al Qadissiya and Yarmouk which took place in 636), source wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_Sasanian_Empire en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_army en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashidun_army This of course knowing that these 13,000 Bedouins had never prepared for large-scale wars, were poorly equipped and lacked experience, unlike some 500,000 men on the other side. - A passage of two villages has an empire extending from India to the gates of Morocco and having crushed two thousand-year-old empires with nearly 50 times more soldiers and means and this with few losses. - An incredible ratio of won/lost battles, 96% of battle victories: 75 and more victories, 3 defeats (retreats), all shorthanded ranging from twice as much to almost 15 times as in the battle of Yarmouk. A video showing the speed of the expansion: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AvFl6UBZLv4.html another of the same type but in more detail: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5XjiY3tQ038.html Here is an anecdote: The Patriarch of Alexandria Cyrus questioned his emissaries about what they had seen during their stay in the Muslim encampment. Their response filled him with astonishment: “We have found a people for whom death is more precious than life and humility better than pride. None of them hope to gain in this life. They sleep on the ground, they eat sitting on the saddles of their mounts and their commander is like one of them. It is impossible to distinguish among them the noble from the commoner, nor the master from the slave. And when the hour of prayer arrives, none of them shirks it: they rush to wash their limbs with water and then merge into prostrations. 'Amr's maneuver had worked. He knew that the inhabitants of the Byzantine Empire would be impressed by the way of life of the Muslims and their degree of faith and determination. Cyrus, a wise and experienced man, saw in this new and simple people the signs of a nation at the height of its power. Defeat seemed inevitable to him in view of the corruption of Byzantine high society. At that moment, he lost all hope of defeating them, he said: "I swear if these men advanced against mountains, they could move them!" » And finally for those who want to be really objective and historian, I offer them this neutral documentary from an Anglo-Saxon channel "kings and generals" which reports historical facts on the expansion of the rashidun and that with a lot of detail on the battles, the estates is a documentary of enormous quality made for people who analyze FACTS... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-r2cEIDZwG5M.html That's it. Once again I sincerely ask you not to let yourselves be carried away by words of subjective chimeras like the boat being carried away by the winds of a storm, analyze FACTS, study history like historians with analyzes and based facts and not through trays / fairs or miserable beggars only gossip and criticize legends that have forged history, because such behavior only returns to miserable people who do not know how to do anything and are bad faith inside decide to throw their unprepared on heroes in front of whom they do not represent the weight of a crumb. On this I wish you well and good guidance.
@@wagadogoable do you know, which mothod he use ? Kill them if they dont belief . actually muhammad never follow allah, he follow jinns that inspired him. allah say, no compulsion in islam, everyone can left islam if they want, read here 2.256 jibril informed us this true, and read, how jinns cowork with muahmmad 52.19
You know the difference between Muslims and Christians : 1- Muslims look for evidence and build their beliefs there. (Islam is built on evidence). 2- Christians build their beliefs and then look for evidence about them. (Christianity is built on emotion and assumptions). Jesus, the God, who has a God said, “I ascend to my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God. (John 20:17). Muslim : Does God has a God ? Christian : You need to open your heart to Jesus. Muslim : Does God Die ? Christian : You need to give your heart to Jesus. Muslim : Where is Trinity in Bible ? Christian: Jesus loves you , he died for you and spilled his blood for you. Muslim : Where did Jesus utter Adam's name in the whole Bible, allude to him or to his sin ? Christian : Jesus dead for your sins. Muslim : GOD is DEAD, all my condolences to all the victims of the lies of the church Muslim : Where Jesus said : I am the God incarnate ? Christian: Happy are those who believe without protesting or asking questions.
An ex-Christian called Ruba who converted to Islam, told on her RU-vid channel that when she was a student in a Christian school, her male classmates throw pieces of paper at the girls in her class where they wrote some sacred words (PARABLES !!!) taken from famous biblical chapter "Song of solomon" which speak of breasts, lips, eyes, neck, stomach, thighs, legs, feet, kisses, bed, love, hips ... in order to flirt with them and seduce them: Song of songs 2: 5 Support me with cakes of raisins, Strengthen me with apples; Because I'm sick of love. (Amen) Song of songs 7: 2 How beautiful are your feet in your shoe, prince's daughter! The contours of your hip are like necklaces, Work of the hands of an artist. Song of songs 7: 3 Your breast is a rounded cup, where there is no lack of fragrant wine; Your body is a heap of wheat, Surrounded by lilies. Song of songs 7: 4 Your two breasts are like two fawns, like twins of a gazelle. Song of songs 7: 5 Your neck is like an ivory tower; Your eyes are like the ponds of Heshbon, By the gate of Bath Rabbim; Your nose is like the tower of Lebanon, Which looks towards Damascus. Song of songs 7: 6 Your head is lifted up like Carmel, and the hair of your head is like purple; A king is chained by curls! ... Song of songs 7: 7 How beautiful you are, how pleasant you are, O my love, in the midst of delights! Song of songs 7: 8 Your waist is like a palm tree, Your breasts like clusters. Song of songs 7: 9 I say to myself: I will climb on the palm tree, I will take hold of its boughs! May your breasts be like the clusters of the vine, the scent of your breath like that of apples, Song of songs 7:10 And your mouth like an excellent wine, ... -That flows easily for my beloved, And slips on the lips of those who fall asleep! (Amen) Song of songs 4: 3 Your lips are like a scarlet thread, and your mouth is lovely; Your cheek is like half a pomegranate, Behind your veil. Song of songs 4: 4 Your neck is like the tower of David, Built to be an arsenal; A thousand shields hang on it, All heroes' shields. Song of songs 4: 5 Your two breasts are like two fawns, like twins of a gazelle, which graze among lilies. (Amen) (…) Some naive Christians, to defend their Bibles, they say: no, no, no, it was only parables or pictures or symbols… !!! God only found in his ingenious brain the breasts of women and the penises of donkeys, and the semen of horses ... to give us or give you symbols !!!!!!!
Thank you bro Al Fadi and bro Jay for being the mouth piece of these treasures now unveiled.Yes its a big thing to expose Islam..its a huge huge thing.May the Lord help our muslim friends to consider all that they hv listened and give their lives to Jesus.Amen
@@esthernarayana2787 Muslim : Can God do anything ? Christian : Of course ! Muslim : Can God forgive without shedding blood !? Christian : Of course not !
@@esthernarayana2787 In the bible and according to Luke 11:45: One of the doctors of the law spoke, and said to Jesus: Master, speaking thus, it is also us that YOU OUTRACTS. The insulted doctor understood that it was an outrage and he who was there and not you. Jesus insulted people too Paul said in 1 Corinthians_6: 10 neither the effeminate, nor the infamous, nor the thieves, nor the greedy, nor the drunkards, nor the OUTRAGEOUS, nor the captors, will inherit the kingdom of God. A famous Christian advised the faithful that if they find themselves embarrassed about a question about Jesus posed by an enemy, they can only say that it was his human nature!
Would love to see these different episodes of each series consolidated into one video as it is difficult to find the consecutive episodes from your site. LOVE your presentations.
@Siraj Haq Do tell us where they are and when they were inscribed? Remember we have mention of Umar and Uthman in Wikipedia as well, that does not mean that they are proof of anything.
Islamic holes are widening from literature to history... I'm so excited #JaySmith and #AlFadi doing great job... Many Muslims are saying goodbye to their faith..
I’m confused. If the “rightly guided caliphs” never existed, then what’s the origin of the Sunni/Shia conflict then? They are fighting over mythical figures that never existed? Really?
What's funny is that you're more likely to find artifacts associated with Robin Hood or King Arthur that are close to the supposed timeframe of their tales; than you would find a 7th century artifact that points to a Muhammad that lines up with the Abbasid narrative.
Thanks as always Dear Brothers in Christ Al Fadi, and Dr Jay.The profound statements about lack of historicity ,and redactions to the 7th century is worth pondering upon.Waiting with bated breath for Dr Spencer's 📖 book.
Satan did everything he wanted to the God of Christians: Satan, because of him, God was compelled to come down to the earth to make amends for the sin committed by Adam and Eve. Indeed, because God created Adam and Eve ignorant, naive and gullible which made the task easier for the serpent, created by this same God, intelligent and strong in tricks (unjust and inequitable creation). The serpent (Satan) easily tricked the two humans into disobeying their intelligent Creator. Their sin, according to the men of the church, was inherited by all descendants. So, because of Satan, God came down to be killed and the one who helped him to be killed was Satan himself when he decided to enter into the body of Judas, and through this entry Judas has unearthed God from the Jews and the Jews captured him and then delivered him to the Romans who captured, beaten, crucified and then killed him ("Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? That is to say: My God, my God, why have you abandoned me? ”(Matthew 27:46) !!!) And this same Satan who tempted God for 40 days and nights by urging him to fast throughout this period and transporting him from one place to another !!! Another thing yet: Satan succeeded in arousing God by causing him to act against Job without cause! (1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them to present himself before the LORD. 2 And the LORD said to Satan, “From where have you come?” Satan answered the LORD and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking up and down on it.” 3 And the LORD said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, who fears God and turns away from evil? He still holds fast his integrity, although you incited me against him to destroy him without reason.” 4 Then Satan answered the LORD and said, “Skin for skin! All that a man has he will give for his life. 5 But stretch out your hand and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse you to your face.” 6 And the LORD said to Satan, “Behold, he is in your hand; only spare his life.”(Job 2:1-6).)
If Jesus is a loving god and only way to Heaven then why did he remain silent for 30 years while growing up in Jerusalem? How many people died and will go to HELL because he did not tell anybody who he was while growing up ? I would say that is opposite of LOVE.
@@dfwtransport2420 You making assumptions without context and incorrect about where he grew up. Do you know what the Hebrew word Love is? Or do you know what the Greek word for Love is?
@@gilbertjones9157- Here ya go - If Jesus is a just god or son of god and only way to Heaven then why did he remain silent for 30 years while growing up ? How many of his neighbors died and will go to HELL because he did not tell anybody who he was while growing up ? I would say that is opposite of JUSTICE.
@@dfwtransport2420 You don't know the Hebrew or Greek of the word Justice. Again assuming that death and hell are the end of those even prior to the birth of Jesus as their fate and assuming knowledge of scripture. You obviously don't know scripture.
And remember..., It's not just the personages that are in question. It's the koran as a book as well. Where is the Uthmanic text ? Why are there so many versions if there was only one source of 'pure' revelation ? Islam's standard narrative cannot account for this.
Prophet muhammad and umar ibn al khattab existed, the prophet muhammad is mentioned in various historical records that date back to his time, examples of these include the doctrina Jacobi, fragment on the Arab conquests, chronicle of 640, history attributed to Sebeos and the khuzistan chronicle, as for umar, we literally have archaeological evidence for umar, look up this “Espaces de liberté et contraintes graphiques dans les graffiti du début de l’islam” it’s a French archaeological study that shows the archaeological evidence for umar
If Jesus is a loving god and only way to Heaven then why did he remain silent for 30 years while growing up in Jerusalem? How many people died and will go to HELL because he did not tell anybody who he was while growing up ? I would say that is opposite of LOVE.
@@dfwtransport2420 you can think whatever you want. I don't care. The day you'll die and go to hell, kindly ask that stupid question to those you'll find there, thank you
An ex-Christian called Ruba who converted to Islam, told on her RU-vid channel that when she was a student in a Christian school, her male classmates throw pieces of paper at the girls in her class where they wrote some sacred words (PARABLES !!!) taken from famous biblical chapter "Song of solomon" which speak of breasts, lips, eyes, neck, stomach, thighs, legs, feet, kisses, bed, love, hips ... in order to flirt with them and seduce them: Song of songs 2: 5 Support me with cakes of raisins, Strengthen me with apples; Because I'm sick of love. (Amen) Song of songs 7: 2 How beautiful are your feet in your shoe, prince's daughter! The contours of your hip are like necklaces, Work of the hands of an artist. Song of songs 7: 3 Your breast is a rounded cup, where there is no lack of fragrant wine; Your body is a heap of wheat, Surrounded by lilies. Song of songs 7: 4 Your two breasts are like two fawns, like twins of a gazelle. Song of songs 7: 5 Your neck is like an ivory tower; Your eyes are like the ponds of Heshbon, By the gate of Bath Rabbim; Your nose is like the tower of Lebanon, Which looks towards Damascus. Song of songs 7: 6 Your head is lifted up like Carmel, and the hair of your head is like purple; A king is chained by curls! ... Song of songs 7: 7 How beautiful you are, how pleasant you are, O my love, in the midst of delights! Song of songs 7: 8 Your waist is like a palm tree, Your breasts like clusters. Song of songs 7: 9 I say to myself: I will climb on the palm tree, I will take hold of its boughs! May your breasts be like the clusters of the vine, the scent of your breath like that of apples, Song of songs 7:10 And your mouth like an excellent wine, ... -That flows easily for my beloved, And slips on the lips of those who fall asleep! (Amen) Song of songs 4: 3 Your lips are like a scarlet thread, and your mouth is lovely; Your cheek is like half a pomegranate, Behind your veil. Song of songs 4: 4 Your neck is like the tower of David, Built to be an arsenal; A thousand shields hang on it, All heroes' shields. Song of songs 4: 5 Your two breasts are like two fawns, like twins of a gazelle, which graze among lilies. (Amen) (…) Some naive Christians, to defend their Bibles, they say: no, no, no, it was only parables or pictures or symbols… !!! God only found in his ingenious brain the breasts of women and the penises of donkeys, and the semen of horses ... to give us or give you symbols !!!!!!!
Mormonism has been completely debunked historically, yet it is still around. Let's not get too complacent that debunking Islam historically will destroy it.
Would like to see each of the seperate sections of these discussions consolidated into single video. It is confusing to locate each section in sequence. Otherwise VERY excellent discussions.
Clearly shared: Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.
@@wagadogoable In that same list you have Hitler and Stalin and Mao listed as well. Great to know that Mohammed was better than these three characters.
If Jesus is a loving god and only way to Heaven then why did he remain silent for 30 years while growing up in Jerusalem? How many people died and will go to HELL because he did not tell anybody who he was while growing up ? I would say that is opposite of LOVE.
Dr. Jay should slow down his speech to half the speed. And he should give us the PARALLEL historic development of mohammad, mecca and the qur'an, so it will be easier to tie both the different developments together and with the Middle East history timeline.
Those criticise Islam must be medically checked up whether they have mental health issues, according to our respected brother Mr. David Wood. And their fans too who used to comment in support of them, secondly.
Why is Pastor Al Fadi posing as a Muslim? It really suits him Mashallah. May the Almighty brant him goodness to unite our Abrahamic religious. There's too many wars and destruction of innocents. Amen / Ameen
@@sungodnika3545 Guess is all you can do because there are more holes in the narrative then evidence. I've just read about the Conquest of Damascus 634 and you can find very detailed reports about that- whileone historian compared all sources and came to the conclusion that all we know for sure is that the Gates were opened and the city was given over, so Siege and Battle could have happened but no prove for that. An this is only 1 event of hundreds during the arab expansion :)
@@sungodnika3545 now I read John Grieham "the client", but what has this to do with history? Most of the info I get from the internet, scholars have different opinions so you can compare and look for their sources; that doesn't mean that 1 is wrong but maybe he is. For the siege of Damascus a german scholar is very critical: Jens J. Scheiner: Die Eroberung von Damaskus. Quellenkritische Untersuchung zur Historiographie in klassisch-islamischer Zeit. Brill, Leiden/Boston 2010, ISBN 978-90-04-17684-3 But to get back to topic: the arab expansion in the beginning was more a political/ military campaign and there are not so many hints to that what we see as Islam in the 8th century. In the beginning they don't try to convert people to their religion, they don't use special emblems or symbols, coins still show the cross but a new M.H.M.T. writing. They don't build monuments, they don't have clerics and they don't teach the quran. John of Damascus (650~750) worked for Arab Administration, talks about a pseudo prophet mahmet and calls them Ishmaelites... you can google: John of Damascus - heresies of the Ishmaelites Conclusion: it seems that it took Islam 50 to 150 years to develop into that what we understand today, but that's just another guess :)
Great series! Is there maybe any information out there how after creation of Islam they actually managed to convince the people under their rule to believe in it?
@Bj D Some errors could be because translation from syriac to arab. Others by missreading the text (bec. missing vowels and diacritical marks). There were almost no scolars in the 7th century, but more in the 8th and a flood of scolars in 9th century producing hadith, tafsir and other texts. I think at one point the quran (as written text) was widely spread and they couldn't change it no more.
Someone was telling me that an Armenian source names Umar. But I highly doubt it. It would be known by now in academic circles. It’s also very interesting that Byzantines were at war with the Arabs and yet there’re no mentions of anyone except Ali, who is considered a governor of Hira, not a caliph. Imagine Romans fighting the Jews and having no clue who the rebel leaders were.
None of the Rashidun caliphs were fictional, we have mentions of them in contemporary sources and they’re also mentioned in an archaeological record, for an example, the caliph Ali is mentioned in the Maronite chronicle which was written in the years between 658 and 664, we also have an autograph of umar ibn al khattab that dates back to his time in Al mukarab, this is a French archaeological study that proves this “Espaces de liberté et contraintes graphiques dans les graffiti du début de l’islam” the people who made this video are goofballs who have no idea about what they’re talking about.
I have to be honest here. For me as a Christian, I have to question the sincerity of Jay Smith and possibly Al-Fadi in examining and covering Islamic sources. I been trying to look and see if they addressed the early Quranic fragments that archaeologists found that can date all the way back to 7th century and from the Hejaz area such as the Birmingham manuscript. Sanaa manuscript and Topkapi manuscript are also dated around the 7th century as well during the time Muhammad lived. I don't see them talking about these three early Quranic fragments but trying to run a narrative that Islam has nothing in writing from the 7th century and from the Hejaz. Edit I apologize, I stand corrected both Jay Smith and Al-Fadi addressed the EArly Quranic Manuscripts that were found in 7th century AD via carbon dating.
JESUS CHRIST is the Way and the Truth and the Life. (john 14:6). the LORD JESUS CHRIST came unto the earth in the likeness of man and HE took the lowly position of a bondservant (philippians 2:7), not to be served, but to serve, and to give HIS Life as a Ransom for many (matthew 20:28). we are not saved because of our own goodness/works, since no one is good (morally perfect), except One, that is, GOD (mark 10:18), but we are saved by the unmerited love and favor of the LORD through faith in HIM and what HE did for us alone (ephesians 2:4-5).
every man is given all he needs to live a Godly life through the knowledge of the LORD (2 peter 1:3). each and every one of us must confess of our sins to the FATHER, we must repent (acts 20:21), and we must strive to live our lives all to the glory of GOD in every aspect (1 corinthians 10:31). if we confess our sins, GOD is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us of all unrighteousness (1 john 1:9).
every man is given all he needs to live a Godly life through the knowledge of the LORD (2 peter 1:3). each and every one of us must confess of our sins to the FATHER, we must repent (acts 20:21), and we must strive to live our lives all to the glory of GOD in every aspect (1 corinthians 10:31). if we confess our sins, GOD is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us of all unrighteousness (1 john 1:9).
What if the SIN is correc t, EXCEPT, the original Mecca was Petra and as Dan Gibson inferred that the ruler of Petra/Mecca moved the Kabba/Black Stone to New Mecca?
Everyone strongly believes blindly in their forefathers demised just merely hearing from their parents without even a small trace of archaeological evidence is leftover. And in the existence of the great scientists of the past.
The information is all over the place because we have to rely on non-Islamic sources. Chinese sources, for example, are extremely sketchy. What’s clear, though, is these guys definitely did NOT come from the same tribe. They were all over the place, probably not even Arabia. They believed all these different things. There were tons of religious sects. They were influenced by Christianity and Judaism, but also Zoroastrianism.
What about the letters sent allegedly by Mohammed in 628. Ive seen images of messed up paper with Arabic writing, or were those something else? Have those documents been tested or examined to at least make sure the text fits with the period? If they are real then who sent them if Mohammed isnt real?
Non existent, or there are several Mohameds, or a complete construction 200 years later, or a merchant who was a partime preacher. Whatever---huge !!!!!! Problems for Islam.
One thing I know is the Mecca that muslims consider holy is an impostor one . Because the early mosques never points towards the Mecca in saudi arabia . Muslims never bulits a mosque without facing the qibla .
there's something missing in your analysis Dr. Jay. Arabs have a tradition to put their experience and history in recited poems. Redaction is possible, but those poems can later be transcribed. is this possibly why there's no early inscription of the 4 caliphs or even so-called muhammad?
Could you make a video regarding the number of man and woman mentioned in Quran (23 times man&23 times woman=46 which is considered as 46 chromosomes) could you please clarify this ?
There are more examples: like the Nasa moon landing was at 50:1 mission time and this is the verse that tells about splitting the moon. Someone put a lot of students to work to find some correlation between the quran and modern(!) knowlege so that people think this is somehow a miracle :( Quran is the most confusing text ever, how can someone think it's divine? If you read 10 minutes you don't know were you started. Like sura 9 repeats over and over that belivers should serve with their person and wealth- there are some variatons but basicly it is like Allah is asking for money- over and over. It just doesn't make sense.
I think that Mohamed did exist the same way Mosailama existed, however, he had no power. When the Arab rulers started to challenge the power of Byzantium they saw that they needed a state religion distinct from Christianity, so they took the teachings of an insignificant Arabic priest that had some followers, gave him a glorious history to show that the Arabs that will follow him will be victorious in battle to be able to rally their people into expansion wars.
📗Not everyone TRUST in a piece of certificate, bill or "holy" paper; 💸 Obama's Certificate says 🌴Hawaii; His Grandma said: 👋 Nigeria Paper is only part of TRUTH or forfeit, but in a military ideology that praises DECEPTION, what can be expected? 🤥 " I'm a the Last lier, believe me and embrace may Armies if JIHAD " wgt