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The Captain (2017) - A historically inaccurate gem (I) 

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While taking a break from my upcoming project, I rewatched Robert Schwentke's "The Captain" to see how well it held up against what I have learned about the Herold case in the past year. As it turns out, I have a lot of thoughts on this film.

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@daddyrabbit835
@daddyrabbit835 Год назад
"Sleep, children, sleep, Hansen is a sheep". That part was so weird
@aidanfeeney8128
@aidanfeeney8128 4 месяца назад
Yea haha 😂 wtf was that like
@dietmar604
@dietmar604 4 месяца назад
its a tranlated german lullaby. In german ist schlaf kindlein schlaf, dein vater ist ein schaf. In german, it rhymes, in english it doesnt
@JR-994
@JR-994 Год назад
I've watched this and your 3 part videos on Herold and they are truly fantastic videos, excellent narration and format. I was disappointed that I could not find an English version of Der Henker vom Emsland online as I don't speak/read German and I am fascinated by his story. Thank you for your work!
@davidaraujo927
@davidaraujo927 2 года назад
Thanks for this! Incredible work from your part, not only on your script but also on your beautiful narration... I catched this movie on TV last night and immediately captured my attention! Unfortunately, I could not watch it til the end... so, this was just what I was searching for!
@ivodora
@ivodora 2 года назад
Glad to hear it was helpful!
@stevenjustice105
@stevenjustice105 2 года назад
Willie was a decorated soldier of the Fallschimjager....trust me he had killed before emmsland... in fact he was probably quite descentized to violence and death by then.
@henrikerksell1026
@henrikerksell1026 2 года назад
Great work, Ivodora! Again.👌🏼
@zaaa6854
@zaaa6854 Год назад
Wow. That's an incredible video♡. I've been a fan of this film ever since it came out and watched it about a gazillion times, every time noticing something new and recognizing a different perspecitve, but never have i thought of the film as of one that humanizes Herold (I was perhaps more focused on the shattering of the myth of clean Wermacht). This video opened up so many new and shocking (I love shocking!) perspectives that I would've never thought of. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge in such an attractive form, walking us through the film. Definitely subscribed and on my way to check the rest of your videos:)
@hebanker3372
@hebanker3372 9 месяцев назад
How can people even believe Wermacht being not a bunch of war criminals, when they were the ones that did most of the atrocities during operation Barbarossa?
@silasmerzenich
@silasmerzenich 7 месяцев назад
​@@hebanker3372Nazis say everything to protect the nazis
@colindunnigan8621
@colindunnigan8621 6 месяцев назад
@@hebanker3372Put most simply, because there were people who were ready to believe it, or possibly, more accurately, to look the other way in the name of political expediency, Cold War necessity, and / or national consolation / self-pity. And I apologize for such a brief precis of what is a big subject.
@Ditka-89
@Ditka-89 11 месяцев назад
This movie blew me away. Thank you taking the time to paint the real historical picture. I’m not sure how good the film could have been had they depicted Harold as he actually was
@tashuntka
@tashuntka Год назад
Great topic/narration/listenability 👍👍👍 Again, could listen to you talk all day 👌😁👌
@tashuntka
@tashuntka Год назад
Is this a different narrator from the Lena Heydrich video ?
@ivodora
@ivodora Год назад
No, it’s still me.
@tashuntka
@tashuntka Год назад
Read any book...I shall listen.. You sound, a little different... Perhaps evolution in your creative process, but both very...very...good 😁💛😁
@rolfagten857
@rolfagten857 Год назад
Good historical vs film approach. That imaginary assignment Gerhold received from Hitler was not an imaginary assignment. And the actor who played Hans Dahler-Kaufmann reminded me of Ralph Fiennes as Amon Goeth in " Schindler's List".Well, it was the complete opposite of Goeth.
@bartoszkaminski2581
@bartoszkaminski2581 Год назад
What a great work! Thank you :)
@terryroots5023
@terryroots5023 Год назад
Excellent, well argued and compelling.
@Sisyphusquit
@Sisyphusquit 5 месяцев назад
Very good movie. I think everyone who enjoyed the film needs to watch your explanations of the story and fact comparisons.
@ihorperec4990
@ihorperec4990 Год назад
Max Hubacher is an amazing actor. Thank you for the i formative review.
@S1NG15
@S1NG15 7 месяцев назад
Anyone know where I can get a version of this film with English subs?
@forickgrimaldus8301
@forickgrimaldus8301 Год назад
The End Credits of the Movie is like if Red Skull got defrosted in Berlin with Steiner's Counteroffensive finally making it to the city.
@AkronAsylum
@AkronAsylum Год назад
I have learned from your Videos, that Freitag had 16 allied tanks in Normandie on his record. Now, this is quite a number. He wasn't part of a tank crew, like the infamous Michael Wittmann, from the Leibstandarte Tank-Division of the Waffen-SS. As a paratrooper, his only options to destroy Tanks, were either the use of a PAK (Anti-Tank-Gun), or a Panzerfaust/Panzerschreck (the German variations of a Bazooka). There are also the Haftmine ( an explosive device that has to be directly stuck at the tank by hand, and handmade Molotow Cocktails. Oh, and often the .88 Flak (Anti-Air-Gun) was used for ground action; very effective.. Do you know more about Freitag's record in Normandie? I am really impressed of your research work, so I wouldn't be surprised .😉
@ivodora
@ivodora Год назад
Freitag provides a summary of his military record for his trial, but does not mention anything about the tanks. It could be that he exaggerated his accomplishments, but it is clear that he was an experienced soldier. Here is what his trial documents say about his service: "He was drafted into the Wehrmacht on the 4th of December 1941, and was trained as an infantryman until February 1942. He was then sent to the Eastern Front, where he served almost continuously until the end of May 1944. During this time he suffered four minor wounds, which did not require him to be transferred to the home front. In May 1944 he suffered a bullet through the thigh. Having recovered from this wound in August 1944, he voluntarily enlisted in the paratroopers to avoid joining the Einsatzgruppen. In consideration of his front-line experience - he had been awarded the Iron Cross II, the Infantry Assault Badge, the Close Combat Clasp, and the Silver Wounded Badge - he was transferred to the Western Front in September 1944 after a short stay with the Paratrooper Replacement Group in Gardelegen. He joined the 21 Parachute Regiment in Holland, got into the regimental assault squad and took part in its operations. In early February 1945 he was wounded in the head, without any permanent harm to the skull. Until the middle of March he was with the unit's detachment. Then he was reassigned to the front. At the end of March 1945, after the English attack on Gronau, he lost contact with his troop." There he had the great misfortune of meeting Herold. Freitag had about three and a half years of war under his belt, far more than Herold, and was an experienced, if not particularly bright soldier.
@AkronAsylum
@AkronAsylum Год назад
@@ivodora Thank you so much for your reply. His military record is really interesting. What I just don't get: Normandy isn't mentoined at all. His first appearance at the Western Front in this schedule was Holland, in September 44, obviously Operation Market Garden. When you look at the medals he received, it doesn't sound like he has actualy destroyed so many tanks. Anyways, he has definetely been through a lot and was experienced in battle.
@ivodora
@ivodora Год назад
@@AkronAsylum Him getting the Iron Cross makes me think he could have had something to do with destroying some tanks, as it was a common reward for this kind of action, but the whole thing is difficult to prove. Perhaps he was inflating his numbers. Perhaps he was part of a larger team who achieved this and is refusing to acknowledge his comrades. Perhaps he really was sent to Normandy at one point and did not go into detail for some reason. Perhaps he’s a liar in the end.
@clonetrooper71
@clonetrooper71 2 года назад
Wait, you're the same person I spoke to about Herold all those months ago on another youtube video???? Well, I'll be sure to watch all of your videos, in due time....
@ivodora
@ivodora 2 года назад
Hello again! Yes, I decided that it would be more productive to make my own videos about the Herold case.
@clonetrooper71
@clonetrooper71 2 года назад
@@ivodora Well, I'm very glad that you did! Can't wait for more; I just started the real biography videos.
@kokoloko8423
@kokoloko8423 9 месяцев назад
Brilliant video!
@Al-po2oh
@Al-po2oh Год назад
What really is the difference between a perceived leader(Herold) and a seasoned soldier rising through the ranks to become a leader.
@jb400years4
@jb400years4 8 месяцев назад
Excellent video
@minirock000
@minirock000 Год назад
What do you think of Generation War as a show that was supposed to be based on someone's experiences? As an American fighting man of the latter Cold War era, I found it quite compelling as a view from the other side. I realise the "cowardly" character was invented or at least embellished since he would have been "fragged" by his own squad. Weakness is not looked upon lightly or with kindness. I know this.
@toomuchinformation
@toomuchinformation 10 месяцев назад
But “Generation War” wasn’t based on someone’s experiences or a real person like “The Captain”. It was about fictional characters. ALL of the characters were invented and the fact you think that they weren’t shows me how disingenuous it really was.
@minirock000
@minirock000 10 месяцев назад
@@toomuchinformation I think you should check again, one character was fictionalised, according to the credits.
@toomuchinformation
@toomuchinformation 10 месяцев назад
@@minirock000 Which character was that? And what did the credits say?
@minirock000
@minirock000 10 месяцев назад
@@toomuchinformation The singer. Episode four tells the story about them.
@minirock000
@minirock000 10 месяцев назад
@@toomuchinformation It seems I need to correct myself and also find out what you find disingenuous about my post. I am not going to repeat myself, in my OP I said who the fictitious character was, so what do you find so disingenuous? My account of military life and the actions of what might have happened? I can tell you that if you confronted me with your confrontational attitude we would frag you as well. You internet children are the least scariest of all known threats. You want to know what the show is about? Watch it yourself! I guarantee you no matter how good of a light that a Nazi is shown, in any movie or documentary they are still vile scumbags. I love the American Apollo missions and the preceding missions to get to Luna but I think we "sinned" in letting the Nazi that got us there live beyond what should have been a trial and his death sentence. To think that anyone that fought for Nazi Germany has any respect due them is false and as you say disingenuous gratitude. Either that or they are a Nazi-loving pile of garbage.
@mephistovonfaust
@mephistovonfaust 10 месяцев назад
As to how people like Schütte can exist as both a loving father and a murderous monster is quite easy. In his brain the prisoners weren't human. They are nothing but insects and let's be honest, we wouldn't shed a tear for thousands of insects dying, would we? Their brains were washed to the extend that they failed to see the humanity withing their prisoners. It's horrible but I would imagine it to be something like this. As a German I can assure you, we are not nation of psychopaths, which would have been the only other possibility.
@ericscottstevens
@ericscottstevens Год назад
Most of the lost Landsers did not want to join ad hoc units. They did not know what was in store for them so they wanted to get back to their old unit for familiarity or go it alone. Yet in many cases their units were annihilated in this span of the war there was no unit to return to. He is wearing a 1940 Narvik Shield on his sleeve of the stolen coat, 2,000 Luftwaffe personnel were awarded this badge....but Willi born in 1925 would have immediately been spotted for too young for that award (15 years old and as an officer), most likely a prop error but the shield adds more power to the wearer for the movie roll.
@ivodora
@ivodora Год назад
It‘s not a prop error on the part of the film, if that is what you meant - the real Herold did wear a Narvik Shield on his stolen uniform. He looked young, but kept telling people he was 25 instead of his real age, 19. The rumors swirling around him, mostly propagated by his own band, was that he was a young, brilliant genius who earned all those medals at a young age. People bought it.
@ericscottstevens
@ericscottstevens Год назад
@@ivodora That Navik unit was 1st Fallschirm-Panzer Division Hermann Göring It is most likely assumed the uniform would be black (not Luftwaffe blue) with skull collar insignia that looked very similar to SS regalia. But the skulls were on light blue collar boards. Thus the ruse wavery easy to get past on the unsuspecting. Cuff title also is lighter blue than expected (still looking it up). The original owner of the abandoned uniform almost could be identified as only 2,161 won that award. Only issue is the F-PDHG was in Silesia at the end of the war. So that adds variables as the original owner was on leave and fled, transferred to another LW unit in northern Germany. It would not be that hard to track down the officers who won the Navik award probably 2 or 3 dozen.
@ivodora
@ivodora Год назад
You‘re right, it probably wouldn’t be impossible to come close to the identity of the Captain who owned the uniform, especially since he had also been awarded the Iron Cross and the Creta band. This medal configuration and the location of the chest where his uniform was (allegedly) found by Herold would help narrow down his identity.
@ericscottstevens
@ericscottstevens Год назад
@@ivodora I would assume the original owner of the uniform was with the 6.. Fallschirmjäger-Divisions (17th or 18th Fallschirmjäger Regiments,) east of the Netherlands in the Klevar Reichwald battles Feb / March 1945. Plus the highly equipped/trained 2nd Parachute Regiment was in the immediate area attached to the 84th Inf Div (A aufstellungswelle division)., The uniform was discovered in a destroyed convoy between the town of Gronau and the county of Bentheim as you say probably late March probably from their retreat. So this is not impossible to track down the identity of the original owner if not already done so. Willi had the FJ knowledge to bluff his way along the trek to infamy.
@hebanker3372
@hebanker3372 9 месяцев назад
You're missing an integral theme from the movie then. If you notice, throughout the film, everyone suspects that Herold isn't who he claim he is. Kipinski was the first to realize he was an imposter by noticing the ill-fitting pants. Junker is also very suspicious and later involves Schutte in the game of pretend. With the exceptions of Freytag and Kaufmann, all the characters are disingenuous and they show it through their behaviours. They all roll with Herold's stunt because a)they don't care(they are preoccupied with their survival in the war), b)they are afraid of the possibility he is legitimate and they'll suffer repercussions for doubting a Hitler's official, c) they view it as an opportunity to throw off themselves, and on to Herold, any responsibilities of crimes they might be charged with after the war. It's not that they really believe Herold is an actual captain, but that they're too busy looking after their sorry arses to care to check him. Brutal selfishness is one of the film's themes. While you look at the technicalities, like the uniform and those who wore it, you're missing the artistic side of it all.
@airconditionedrelco7099
@airconditionedrelco7099 Год назад
slept on movie
@deadlyoneable
@deadlyoneable 2 года назад
All do respect, most people go into this realizing it was merely for entertainment purposes. By the way, your 3 part series on this man is outstanding
@ivodora
@ivodora 2 года назад
I made this review mainly because I saw that many of the pre-existing videos on RU-vid about the Herold case, videos which aimed at historical accuracy, took the film as a reliable source of information. My efforts were a response to that. And thank you!
@deadlyoneable
@deadlyoneable 2 года назад
@@ivodora I see. In that case, very good. If you said that in the video and I missed it, I apologize. This event has enthralled me. I can’t believe more attention has never been given to it.
@william_marshal
@william_marshal 10 месяцев назад
So what happened to Rheinhardt Freitag. He was not one of the six men sentenced to death at the trial and I doubt if he was one of the five men acquitted?
@ivodora
@ivodora 10 месяцев назад
Freitag was captured later. He was lucky because at that time, the British were done with the war crimes trials and so he was judged by a German court and sentenced to eight years in prison. He came out after serving his time, headed home and died sometimes in the late 80s, possibly 1989.
@xboxhomie4
@xboxhomie4 Год назад
18:34 Herold was going for the 100% achievement??
@paxbritannica16
@paxbritannica16 Год назад
Good
@das_tattooatelier_freistadt
@das_tattooatelier_freistadt 11 месяцев назад
Ich hoffe doch dass den Meisten klar ist was der Unterschied zwischen einem Spielfilm und einer historischen Dokumentation ist. 😉
@porkscratchings5428
@porkscratchings5428 Год назад
Glad I came across this vid. It is one of my all time favourites but the end credits were hilarious. I really enjoyed the movie, obviously not 100% accurate but thoroughly entertaining.
@seanmatto2258
@seanmatto2258 3 месяца назад
Don’t you mean the Orpo? Or Wehrmacht polizei?
@seanmatto2258
@seanmatto2258 3 месяца назад
Probably spelling it wrong
@ivodora
@ivodora 3 месяца назад
I‘m not entirely sure what part of the video you are referencing.
@seanmatto2258
@seanmatto2258 3 месяца назад
@@ivodoraat 1:09
@ivodora
@ivodora 3 месяца назад
@@seanmatto2258 Aah, I see. The man pursuing Herold has the rank of a Captain and his men are "Feldgendarmen" aka the military police. They are all part of the Wehrmacht.
@gordonsmith4884
@gordonsmith4884 Год назад
Films are never historically accurate (See "The King and I, Braveheart, etc.). Great film none the less.
@deathcrackle
@deathcrackle Год назад
They aren't but considering how fascinating the real life story is, I wonder why moviemakers feel the need to make up situations or change them. The story of the real Willi Herold is much more interesting than the movie's portrayal of him.
@duke0518
@duke0518 Год назад
Having seen the movie, accurate or no, it was pretty powerful. That he was a not a deserter is of no real consequence. The inaccuracy of the dates for instance, is also not really important, this is not a scholarly film. Many of the details annotated here are actually trivial. Ranks not right, and so on. Freytag wasn't in his 40s, he was 22.... how do you know he was in his 40s...by his looks? Sorry, but I find this information video more of a lecture, kind of like that one guy you know who can't shut up during a movie and points out all the flaws like "that car blew up before the bomb went off" or something like that. THere are name inaccuracies for instance, but movies often do this for reasons that they have, such as protecting (or having an NDA signed) with decendants of depicted parties. HOwever, for the history snob (which I am, sometimes) This film probably summarizes a semesters worth of work without paying for the college credit while not exactly ruining the film but sort of has an aloof feeling to it. I know this well, because I used to talk like that more often than I should have, it's not a good way to win friends. On the flip side, it's really not a good film review at all but kinds of ruins it a little.
@lorenonanesterium7747
@lorenonanesterium7747 Год назад
You got something wrong with the German army ranks. A Gefreiter is not a corporal, Gefreiter is the lowest possible rank in the German army and defenetly beneath a Captain.
@ivodora
@ivodora Год назад
A Gefreiter was a Lance Corporal. An Obergefreiter was a Corporal. The lowest rank in the Luftwaffe was Flieger. When did I claim that a Gefreiter is a Corporal?
@jpmtlhead39
@jpmtlhead39 6 месяцев назад
He might have been Lost from his unit,but he was a Typical Coward who when the Chance "appears" in the form of Power, Cowards Cant resist to the appeal of Power. And Herold as a Lost Coward in the Middle of the chaos couldnt resist for once in his lousy and shitty life he could impose his Vicious and Mean streak upon others The Temptation of that Suit,brought to light his true colors, a very poor jugdment and the evil Demeanour towards other human beings,even if their own people. But all because of Suit. In a world in peace,he must have been a low life living from hussle and petty crime.
@JohnVanSickle-lu7xp
@JohnVanSickle-lu7xp 5 месяцев назад
Do some research
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