Very good point. Although I think he has strayed in previous videos on car looks in the past. NSX ushered in an era of more reliable sports cars by being a great example.
@@Pufulets I did not understand what he meant by "Honda sports cars have no soul", from what I understood for him the "soul" of the car is in the sound of the engine, which to me makes no sense, wanted to see if he would confuse an nsx with an odyssey on a track even with his eyes closed
@@rudfil I'd rather walk, ride a bike, or take the bus than drive a Ferrari. Car Wizard always makes it clear we're talking about cars that the average person (99% of the world) can buy, not the 1%.
One of the best driving car ever.. Like they're extremely fun to drive. But again he was clear it's his opinion and is entitled to have one. The S2K don't go down in price.. Easy to fix and mod.. And the Chassis is great.
Definitely.. My friend bought an 04 in 2005 had 15k on it for $25k.. sold it last year 2019. With 320,000 on it.. one soft top replacement. A Leaky fuel injector at 280k. A few 12v batteries, and one clutch at 250k. Still had all original suspension. Sold it for $4k I think.. Pretty solid machine. He took care of it . Drove it but did not beat it.
Are you honestly suggesting a person with 30 grand to buy a sports car should buy a busted old Ferrari. You’re dangerously close to having your wizard card revoked.
Are you honestly suggestin a person with 30 grand to buy a barely holding on ``sports honda``. You`re dangerously close to having your own opinion on things. Curb your self importance
klenner Taking some liberties with the assumptions, buddy. Didn’t give an opinion on what car is better than a busted old Ferrari, but it doesn’t take a car wizard to know that’s a poor decision for someone on a budget. Cool comment, though. Now, fuck off back to moms basement.
Should be noted that the transmission issues are pretty much secluded to automatic transmissions. Honda makes some of the best standard transmissions on the market.
No they don't. I've driven manual trans. Hondas for decades and never had a very good one. They were all quite flawed. The last Honda I drove was 10th gen Civic and the 6M was notchy with pronounced rev hang. The two Mazdas I owned had superb manual transmissions. It was my poor experience with manual Honda transmissions that led me to buy an automatic Acura RSX which, ironically, is fabulous. I have 210,000 trouble-free miles on it. The 6M RSXs were plagued with transmission problems.
Lol so wrong not even funny firend of my drive a 96 accord auto no problem at all he drives it in the winter time in the summer time he's got a Honda Prelude 5-speed and the transmission just blew up on the prelude last year Honda Accord has 462000 km and transmission is perfectly fine it's the way you maintain the transmission
Manual transmission Honda’s may very well be the most reliable vehicles ever produced. Especially since Toyota decided to stop building manual transmission automobiles. A 89-97 manual transmission Corolla was the pinnacle of reliability.
Yeah but typically civic's are run into the ground and not well maintained so the transmissions go out due to lack of care and young kids just driving off without letting it warm flooring it 5 seconds into starting it yk
It just depends. Sometimes you get lucky. My Si didn’t have the recall for the cracked block cause they used the 2.0L K motor instead of the R18. I do know all 8th gen’s have the passenger motor mount go bad very early on due to the design of it
Yeah, he's what saying here is that a "sports" car is NOT just any 2 seater type of car, but that it also has to sound like one, and therefore has to have a "real" sports car engine, too-but that IS subjective. Honda S2000 vs. ANY Ferrari is not a good comparison, as that Honda was obtainable by normal folks to buy, own, and continue to enjoy with minimal maintenance (in general). While the Ferrari is an "exotic", rich man's car which needs continual expensive maintenance (in general) to keep it on the road. It's not very practical for everyday folks to own and drive in either given the car's fragility, attention grabbing styling, dealership/maintenance access issues ($500 to $1000 oil changes!), and overall demeanor of a mid-engined car. It makes no sense to me for him to compare them together.
Believe231 yeah seriously. The s2000 is literally the definition of a sports car. Rear wheel drive, manual, 2 seater/roadster, 50/50 or near 50/50 distribution, with a high revving motor(usually some or all forged internals from the factory, reduced weight, with upgraded suspension, brakes, and wheels. He’s attempting to categorize exotic or supercar to be the only definition of a sports car, which is wrong and purely subjective and blatantly/willfully being ignorant with set definitions/categories in place.
@@Believe231 Have you heard a S2000? It doesn't sound like some simple d series Honda or hell even a Si. It's 3x the beast of any Honda its time besides the NSX
The Honda sports car may have no Soul. But if you own a Ferrari for the same time you own a Honda. You will die a broke Soul. Wizard is right. The Ferrari was BORN from the DNA of race cars! 🏎
i dont think, he meant it as quality issue and cost, there is relationship between the driver and machine, its how it makes you feel, i have to agree with the Wizard, Japanese cars had always had this feeling like an appliance stigma.
You’re severely misinformed on the sports car segment. Severely. The NSX uses a C30 or C32 V6. This is a motor that is unique to the NSX. It was a 90 degree V6 block, has true dohc heads and titanium connecting rods. A far cry from the j series sohc 60 degree V6. That’s why nothing from the motors are interchangeable. The s2000 uses a F20c or F22c this is an engine block that again is unique only to the s2000. This motor was developed from the earlier H series block and was never offered in any civic. Also how are you going to recommend a Ferrari 355 a car notorious for maintenance and reliability issues? Where the NSX will keep on trucking? Performances between these two cars are quite similar as well. There’s a reason why NSX prices are about on par as used 355 models. And you can’t tell the difference between a sports car whose development was influenced by Senna and a Minivan? So the tight steering input, sharp handling, great road manners, gets lost on you? I am starting to think you never been in this car. Or your driving skills are inversely proportional to your mechanical skills.
Hoovie had an NSX that the Wizard worked on, he was probably put off by all of hoovies awful choices and having to work on an absolutely shagged out NSX
Phil Atkins I remember, but you’d think any mechanic would know that you can’t judge an entire model brand. If the example you’re working on. Has a worn trailer arm bushings, with alignment way off. And is overall in a condition of disrepair. A Ferrari would also drive like crap if you don’t maintain at all. And it would experience drivability issues much sooner than the NSX. I remember that NSX that car was completely neglected.
Jarl Nieminen Even then Acura autos in the Legend coupes, CL Coupes, and Acura TL autos all with V6's haul butt and scream perfectly. They dont rupetty rump rump like the Mustang V8 or Camaros but I would rather hear the V6 Honda scream and get up there quicker. Hondas have much more power per liter because they flow better.
@@markf5314 At least he warned us it WAS just his opinion. 😉 But yeah...I'm no fan of Toyota myself, since the topic of "bland" and "boring" was brought up. Still, for my kiddo, I'm looking at cars to replace an Accord; while I prefer the Hondas (and own Honda-specific tools, and know how to work on them), I am still considering Camry or Corolla largely due to them being reliable appliances. She drives through a dangerous area to get to college (it's inner-city), and last thing I need is a breakdown...
@@-rudy- honestly Toyota's are no more reliable than any other car. They all break eventually. Think about it, you know hondas like the back of your hand. Find a 99 or other ek (i only say '99 for age). Just something d series. Then dig through the car and replace all the typical parts that go bad and preventative maintenance, main relay, dizzy, plugs, wires, timing belt, water pump, oil pump, etc. They are unkillable. Slow as hell and sound like shit but they run and run and run.
Exactly, that's the joy of owning really any European car of that calibre. I believe Ferrucio Lamborghini put it best himself when he said "Expect the unexpected."
You absolutely don’t know Ferraris to say that. So that’s your opinion... but a clutch job on most of mid engined Ferraris is a joke in comparison to many cars. On 308, 328, 348, testarossas, mondials etc.. you don’t have to remove the engine or the gearbox to make the clutch job, if you know the car, it couldn’t take you more than 3hrs to do it.. on a 308/328, the clutch kit costs about $400 + few o rings and a bit of oil and sealant... + 4-5 hours of labour... so where are the 25k ?
2005 Odyssey 207k still going strong, it’s all about maintenance, if you take care of your car it will take care of you. Trans fluid change every 30 k honda fluid Oil 3-4k synthetic. Got it new in 05, only issues ac 3 rd ac compressor, but everything else has been good. Thank you
Yeah but eventually the transmission will go. Doesn’t matter how well you maintain it. I see them all the time for sale with bad transmissions between 150k-250k miles
The F20C and F22C motor in the S2000 are not "hopped up" Honda Civic motors in any sense. The C30 and C32 in the NSXs are not Odyssey motors either. The S2000 has more soul than most cars on sale today and is one of the best pure sports cars ever made. Wizard is completely clueless here and its a bit surprising someone that knowledgeable about cars is preaching this nonsense.
Easier to maintain S2000 then any Ferrari ever created 🤣🤦🏿♂️ love you wizard but naw I'm good on the Ferrari I reather have my two Honda's and a house
@@scottferguson3842 .......In other news, there's a 2003 Honda Odyssey in New Jersey that just clicked over to 170,000 on the original transmission....... I'm a fu€king 🧙🏼♂️ now.
I bought the S2000 when it first came out and loved that car. I now have a Ferrari 360 Spider and love it too. But to say the S2000 doesn't have soul, I can't agree with that. It was and still is a great sports car. They have also held their value.
I kind of agree with the wizard. The s2000 is fun but lacks character. It's very much an appliance compared to anything else in it's segment. I think that's the point. Compared to other cars off it's ilk, the s2000 is bland. As compared to a Camry, it's epic.
I dont really get this one. S2000 can be a really fast car, it aint no Ferrari, but it is a sporty car no noubt. Never owned one myself, but I get lapped by them at the track.
@@pirihern9329 the s2000 just doesn't sing to me. I find it's styling handsome but understated, maybe too restrained. Like an Audi with a flat eyebrow. It's like it's purpose is to start everyday and fun is an afterthought. The drive is meh unless you're on a track. While you account be racing on the street, a spirited drive is perfectly reasonable given certain conditions and I can think of other roadsters I would drive before this. I doubt they would be as reliable, but they certainly would be more entertaining. Just for me though. S2k Fanboys will hate. I respect that. My opinion applies to me.
@@jaybizzle4208 It was one of the first cars with from honda to do that. Not the first 4 cylinder. Sportbike 4 cylinders got that catagory fam. I have extracted 201 HP from a 1000cc aka 1.0 liter N/A sportbike engine.
Ok hondas. I had one but the toyota supras we own back in the day made us the most popular young dudes out. Gangs use to hate us alote. Still my 2 toyota supras 1 modied one was red with a dragon & the other white both Had turbo. It would've beat this guus Ferrari. I wouldve smoke him. I press my turbo button. It had turbo. Fact bo opinion. Hmm where did i see that before. Oh yeah Fast and the furios. Paul and vin diesel smoked sime rich old white guy in a Ferrari
OG Roshi You may end up with alcohol poisoning if you try that. I played a game of “Take a shot every time someone swears” on the movie “Superbad”. That was a messy night.
Love you Wizard, but have to disagree on the s2000. The crazy high revving engine (especially in the ap1) and the amazingly precise transmission make for a very unique driving experience. There’s a reason they have such a following, and you see so many former owners coming back after experimenting with more powerful and/or exotic cars.
Exactly. I don't see an odyssey reving to 9k. But when you want to cruise. Its civilized. Like modern super cars. Although I hate the looks of the 199X NSX without the pop-up headlights
Here’s my take on what the wizard said. The ford raptor shares the same v6 block as the ford gt so does that not make it a sports car? Or how lotus uses supercharged Camry engines in their cars. So does that not make it a sports car because lotus uses Camry engines? See what I’m saying?
The ap1 is the only acceptable arguement against Wizard.. everything else he said was true Honda had its hay day in the 90's early 2000's as far as im concerned.
As a retired Honda tech who has worked on the auto transmissions from back in the the days in the 70s when they only had two speeds up until until recently, its always been the same thing. People just do not change the fluid at appropriate intervals and it ends up tearing up the large and small orings on the pressure plate in the clutch packs. Once this happens fluid pressure is lost and the plates slip in that respective clutch pack. Honda also added a lot of screens in the valve body over the years to keep contaminants out of the valves in the valve bodies and the contaminents from not changing the fluid over time restricted flow through these screens. If you have never opened a transmission from Honda to see what is really going on, Wizard you are not in a position to say anything about them simply because you have no clue why the transmission burnt up. Customers are very much to blame because as a Honda they expect it to keep running with no maintenance.
@@DaNiElLl430 Hoovie owned an NSX once. So it payed his bills. He just got used to the sound of US and Italian cars. I dont blame him. If he drove the nsx high in the revs he might judge differently
When I hear an NSX. I hear an oddesy. When I hear a lambo. I hear an Audi Q3 When I hear a pagani. I hear a Mercedes Vito When I hear a Ferrari. I am calling tony to get the fire extinguisher for his fiat. When I hear a Bentley, rolls royce or BMW. I'm surprised its not at the mechanic. When I hear an aston martin. A james bond tune starts playing in my head for the rest of the day. When I hear a BAC mono. I hear a Ford Galaxy. When I hear a Masarati. I hear an expensive Alfa Romeo. Which is not bad tbh. When I hear a Mustang or a viper. I think of my shady friend driving a 90s black chevy van. When I hear a bias, I know it. These are all great cars. Peace out.
When I hear Ferrari, I hear Fiat with good exhaust. Or just Maserati/Alfa Romeo. But with 30% + price tag, just because of "historical racing heritage". (The Germans LOVE to do that, too)
As far as the 8th generation Accords go (2008-12), the majority of transmission issues occurred with the V6 models. The 4 cylinder models are very reliable.
You start the video by recommending and avoiding cars based on reliability. But when you get to the sports car section none of your opinions were about the reliability. Just opinions about what makes a sports car a sports car.
THE BATLORD if you drive your car without changing the timing belt a couple times in its life, it’s your own dumb fault. Every 75k you need to do timing belt idc what 4cylinder, same with the tensioner, water pump and anything else you can change while having the car opened up. The new Honda’s burn oil from the factory and I like them but don’t trust them yet
@Fishermanguy44 your 38 year old Camaro is only good for the drag strip not any drifting or track driving. For those you need a lightweight car. A huge heavy V8 makes an unbalanced car. It just depends what you're looking for in a sporty car. Pony cars especially the old ones are only good for straight lines and nothing else. The S2000 was not built for straight lines.
@Fishermanguy44 and originally this was about the S2000. The S2000 from 2001 handles better than any pony car built in 2001. Take the mustang the one I have most experience with. It drives like a 70s Cadillac lol the S2000 was a really great fun car. The Wizard seems to think that miatas are great cars if I recall correctly. The S2000 was a better car than the Miata on every single metric. And this is coming from a Miata guy lol
20-40k budget for a sports car, forget about the S2000 that held a world record for engine output, get a cheap ferarri so you can go to his shop to spend money, lol
I'm not pissed off, but I have to argue that you are objectively wrong about Honda sports car engines being ordinary engines that are simply "hopped up." The NSX engine was revolutionary. Which engine was more advanced in 1991? The C30A had an 8000 RPM redline, forged pistons, titanium rods, variable valve duration and lift... all technology never before seen outside of racing engines. The s2000 engine is an even better example. Maybe you've never looked at one closely? All aluminum, high-compression, ladder frame, roller rockers, VTEC, 9000 RPM redline... designed just for the S2000. It was the most powerful naturally aspirated engine per liter of any production engine of its time. Not only were these engines not ordinary, its hard to argue that there has ever been a more special engine put into a non-exotic production car.
Yep, we had an S2000, from 37,000 miles to 102,000 miles. Just serviced it regularly and had to fit chain tensioner and 2 front brakes. manic engine and a joy to drive. I BET that a Ferrari would not have been so trouble free. You have to pull the engine to change belts every couple of years for Gods sake!!
My buddy has a perfect working 05 pilot and it lasted 320,000 miles without perfect maintenance (family passed down) i totally suggest this car in my experience but he is a mechanic and i am not 😅
Nah he actually makes a lot of sense when you take values into consideration. A used NSX is easily in the used Ferrari price range, and while the NSX would be lower maintenance he makes a good case on why you would buy one of these cars in the first place. The engine note is a big deal and the NSX never had a particularly great sounding engine. As for the S2K that makes a good case for it's self as a roadster but it's still a flawed car when it comes to the engine. Sure it revs high but you gotta rev the piss out of it for it to have any character or performance.
John Klise it’s all about taste. I will agree a Ferrari sounds amazing! But I wanna be able to drive my car. You can drive the piss out of both of them. And high revs are apart of that taste thing because I love vtec engines and the high rev.
@@mrjohnnyk Jesus these arguments suck. A nsx and s2k can be so much fun or even more fun around back roads than a ferrari, and still work after pushing them hard. As for the sound, i know this is subjective but i believe the nsx is one of the best sounding cars ever period. The s2k also sounds great. You dont need a v8 or v12 make good sound in my opinion. Another factor is the cost of maintainence where i would have 10 hondas instead of a ferrari. One thing i especially like with the s2k and nsx is that they dont attract that much attention. When you ride the ferrari you have a loud v8 or v12 engine and outstanding styling. This is going to attract a lot of attention. Meanwhile the nsx makes good sound when it wants, and most normal people think its a sporty accord. TL;DR: nsx makes great sound, is reliable and attracts less attention. Same with s2k
Ferrari's do make more noise, that noise being it either breaking down constantly or it catching fire because its a "HOT" car. So in that regard hes right.
@@747-pilot I'd rather have a Honda that doesnt start then a Toyota that's in perfect condition. They have started to improve the past few years (with the Yaris GR) but other then that Toyota hasn't built a car with a heartbeat for about 15 years. And no, I don't consider the GT86 as a car with a heartbeat, it's far too flawed in for my liking.
Here’s the thing with Honda automatic transmissions: if you change the fluid every 30k miles, then they last! Most people forget about this and makes it a hard buy in the used market. My neighbor has a low mile 2003 Acura TL type s that is absolutely mint. Transmission just went out at just 80k miles!! They never changed the fluid. Just change your fluid on time and save yourself the 5 grand for a new one.
Definitely, my 06 Accord Euro (I forget what they call it in the US) shifts like brand new and I do a lot of driving in it every day. I drop the fluid up to two times a year depending on when I have time. I've found it will play up if the tires are low pressure though. I'm wondering if that's what kills them. When there's 38 psi it goes back to perfect.
Wait really I thought honda used timing chains on all their engines??? The older, mid 2000s, v6 that was in the v6 accord had a belt, but I thought all Hondas after that used chains. Correct me if I'm wrong I could be spewing out my ass.
The 2022 Acura NSX 0 to 60 in 2.7 sec If that's not a sports car I don't know what is. That's faster than a Corvette. The Honda Civic type r 0 to 60 in 4.8
I had a 1997 Honda civic 1.6 lx. The automatic transmission developed problems before 30k miles. Also I had a cracked radiator, blown head gaskets, cracked converter, and bad front engine mount. My brother had a 1998 and right after 100k miles, it started to cut off. Add electrical problems. Also Hondas are tin cans as it relates to crashes. Their panels are easily cracked and fall off as well.
Yeah I remember those transmission issues. A lot around 98-mid 2000s. I remember having Honda replacing a transmission OUTSIDE warranty at only 42k miles because they stated it was not designed to work that way. Nice of them to step up. Seemed like it was mostly V6s.
My mother has been driving an 06 Honda Pilot since it was new and has no plans to get rid of it any time soon. It has never failed her, and has a lot of power. I actually met a guy once who was told me about his 07 pilot which had 380k miles on it, with no issues. I agree about the earlier models, but the 06-08 Honda Pilot seems to be a rare gem.
My 06 pilot has over 300k on it and believe it or not it still has the original engine, trans, front struts and rear shocks, it even has the original front and rear rotors!! Still within spec.. if you treat them right and use amsoil they'll run forever.
The 4 and 5 speed automatic problems are coupled with V6 engines. The trans can't handle the extra torque. The 4 cylinder models don't experience nearly the same issue. The Odyssey, being the heaviest vehicle, will have the most failure.
@@fcex558 9 speeds were sourced by ZF and as long as you regularly change transmission fluid you should be fine. I got an 03 accord v6 with 360K on the original transmission.
It has nothing to do with the engine. I work for Honda and as others have said almost all the automatic transmission problems are due to a lack of proper maintenance. We recommend a trans fluid flush every 40k. We've got multiple cars with well over 200k miles and no trans problems because they do the scheduled maintenance.
I have owned a 2006 997.1 911 and currently own an 2006 S2000. They both put a smile on my face but for pure joy, I prefer the S2000! It’s just a joy to driven. The Porsche was also way too expensive to maintain. The S2000 has been bulletproof reliable. I was a bit worried about driving it on a 2000 mile trip; I shouldn’t have. It ran perfectly and was still just a blast to drive. I plan on keeping my S2000 forever. We all have our options and I certainly respect the Wizards, but for me, the S2000 offer a truly engaged and visceral driving experience, the way a sports car should.
I've owned the Accord and Element with the same 2.4 liter engine that have been bulletproof other than replacing the starter and I will admit, replacing them is a PITA because you have to remove the intake manifold. Also owned older Civic's and first gen CR-V with no problems at all. However, they were all manual transmissions.
I thought the s2000 handled really well. Very revvy, fun little car to drive, looks good. Its not very fast but it doesn't need to be, its a roadster and I think its the best car that Honda made
TOP GEAR Jeremy Clarkson actually said "The S2000 was the greatest car ever made" He said all the equations weighed and its is the best ever overall. He received his new version Ford Gt40 thing and the next day he was going to drive it to work after a year or two waiting to get it shipped to him, AND IT BROKE DOWN IN HIS GARAGE LOL The boys laughed in his face on that episode.
The nsx and the s2000 arent comparable. The nsx, the old one, is bordering on a super car. The its best to think of the s2000 as a better faster miata. Fast as shit vs fast enough.
All the crap his insurance company made him install and the trickle charger he selected are what failed him. The trickle charger failed and caused electricle problems. The tracker failed. The security system failed. Iagain the aftermarket stuff failed.
@@barneythedog977 No, he did not say 'Greatest car ever made'. That is what he said about the LFA. Jermey has given the S2000 good reviews on Top gear. But it's ranked number 22 out of his top 100...
2019-2022 Honda Insight. Most reliable and fuel efficient car you’ll find. In 2019 I bought a brand new Touring Insight. My Title says 55 miles, I’ve put 215,000 miles on it since. Still on original brakes! Spark plugs, tires, and fluids have been the only maintenance done. I purposely neglect this car, I’m curious to see how long it can run with my terrible ownership!
Yeah they do. And I careless if they all sound the same when I turning the car, which is true. Go inside different v6 or 4cyl hondas. They sound the same lol. Depends of which series engine ofc
NSX= ICON! But if I routinely worked on and drove high end exotics, I would probably feel the same way as the “Weeezard”. But if I had to PAY for the upkeep, back to the ICON! 😁 The NSX was the car that made the exotic manufacturers step it up. Much like Lexus bitch slapped Mercedes in 1990, and some would say still is.
I was expecting more than that, CVT VS conventional A/T and talking more about the engines : K series VS J series, I was waiting for long for Honda video but this is one is disappointing
Its was a Honda bash video through and through lol. Nothing wrong with stating ones opinion but it showed to be very one sided lol. One of the best formula one drivers put his seal of approval on the NSX, hard to say its a "souless" vehicle, but hey to each is own.
I think the video is targeted towards regular people (may not know much about cars or Honda’s) and is just giving a brief overview of what cars to buy and not to buy. Seems like you already know a lot about Hondas so you probably don’t need the wizard telling you something you already know.
Was lacking the mention of any manual vs automatic transmission for sure. Not as well thought out maybe? It was definitely more his experience though. Manuals are so good he's never seen one in his shop hahaha.
@@DaNiElLl430 Senna put his "seal of approval" on the NSX because he was paid to do so. Pure Marketing. Was the NSX good, sure. Was it great...questionable.
I owned a cherry s2000 for 8 years. Sold it for more than what I bought it for. I put 50k miles on it and it never failed me. Yes the s2000 is soulless compared to a Ferrari but compared to a Miata it is a fire breathing dragon. It's all relative. Love your videos wizard!
For the 2008-2012, I heard that brake issues were prevalent in the V6 versions, i.e. more speed, more power=more pressure on the brakes. I bought a used 2010 Accord EX 2.4l, 4cyl with 80,000 miles, automatic transmission. So far so good. No issues. I also heard that Honda is having problems with their V6 Variable Cylinder Management in all models. I would avoid them altogether.
I have an 09 acura tsx manual transmission. When I totaled my Lexus es350 I was looking for another one or a manual honda. Havent had any trouble. Those are pretty bulletproof
I own a 2002 Honda Civic Si. Over 180k miles on it. I love it. I’ll probably own it forever. Yeah the rally shifter is weird but besides that it’s a great car.
Should also be noted that the transmission issues on the 2003-2007 Accord mostly and almost entirely occur in the V6 variants. I don’t know if anyone else noted this, but I just wanted to drop the mic on this. I have an 07 Accord 4CYL. that I purchased as a CPO car at 53K and today it has 256K. IJS...
I knew someone who had an '07 Accord 4 cylinder. No issues except the usual suspension issues that plagued all Accords till 2016. He only sold it because he was moving out of the country.
10:10 Wizard! While i dont agree that hondas arent sports cars, i can at least acknowledge your opinion and listen, but dont go spreading straight LIES man! The nsx motor shares ZERO parts from the odyssey motor! Its a completely different engine and engine designation! Odysseys are J series SOHC v6 and the older nsxs use the C series DOHC v6. The s2000’s F20/22C is only made for that car! Albeit “derived” from the accord motor, most parts dont swap! The s2000 does not use a timing belt unlike ALL other F series motors, it was made specifically for a high revving high HP/L application!
From my knowledge anyway, most of the transmission issues really plagued the V6 models. And seeing as how Honda used the J3X in pretty much all (if not all) of their V6 models all mated to the same transmission, it makes sense why so many models had transmission issues. My uncle had an 03 accord V6 and had that transmission begin failing under 150k miles. My mom had a 4 cylinder 03 accord that she handed down to me (which I HAMMERED on every single day, all day) and the transmission (along with just about everything else) was perfect when it was wrecked at 206k.
Honda used 4 cyl transmissions modified to fit a 6. Most oems go to another company like AISIN, jatco, alison, etc for trans, not Honda. The did the same thing on CVs end brakes for some vehicles and they're under higher stress, so less reliable. The rev hang some have mentioned isn't a rev hang but a delay valve in the clutch to prevent dumping them at full power
My 30 years of owning Hondas along with all my family members owning them tells a different story. If you don’t properly maintain a Honda yes you will have problems. Wizard I will stay with Honda
I dont wanna be that guy but theres a reason they call the nsx "The ferrari killer" litteraly every other "sports car" wouldve been a better suggestion
@@suxo7221 Eh sort of, I mean the thing about the NSX is that a clean example will definitely cost you more than a 348. A clean 355 will definitely set you back pretty close and that is probably one of the most unreliable Ferrari's. The 360 is when you start to get a much better machine but those are just as pricey as a late NSX. The 430 is arguably a better car all around but then again it's notably more expensive.
@@RarriLambo Let me tell you something "horsepower isn't everything" WHAT!!?? Why do you think tons of people autocross or track miatas? Because they are cheap? Partly that but they pour in so much money in those that I would beg to differ. It's all about having fun and feeling connected to the car.
Thanks for going through Honda, Wizard. My Honda ownership has included a 1988 Honda Prelude Si, 1998 Honda Prelude, 2005 Acura TSX 6 Speed w/ Nav, and my wife's current 2013 Honda Accord EX CVT. I very much agree with you on your recommendation of the 2013 and newer Accord. Ours has been very reliable, fuel efficient and even fun to drive. I think we have only had to replace the starter, which is a common issue. Otherwise, just maintenance. Where I disagree with you is on Honda products being soulless. My mom has 2012 Toyota Highlander; that is a soulless vehicle. Toyotas in general are soulless. My 1998 Prelude with the H22A VTEC motor - oh my, did that thing have some soul. My 2006 Acura TSX was wonderful. As Car and Driver said, it was like a puppy whose tail is wagging its body. Now, I get what you are saying about sports cars. In that sense, the S2K and NSX are truly the only ones who could possibly be considered. To deride Honda because these 2 cars have some relation to other Honda products is faulty logic. Are you going to say the same about the Corvette, since it is a Chevy; or the Ford GT since it is Ford? Both the S2K and NSX do not share engines or platforms with other Hondas. Have you driven an S2K?
I like both Toyota and Honda. But I got to agree that Toyota cars are pretty soulless. Hondas are so much fun. Also Soichiro Honda wanted his cars to be fun and exciting to drive. And the NSX is a dream car in my opinion.
I recently sold my 03’ S2000 after owning it 4 years for more than I paid for it and never had a single issue with it. I now have a supercharged E55 AMG and of course it is much faster in a straight line but in every other way the S2000, especially running it to 9,000 rpm, was way more fun. I miss it and will get another someday.
to be honest i think the hondas that go in the shop are for people that don’t take care of their car and push it past their limits without regular maintenance
when people dont know they just talk garbage and the same when they are jeaslous - Honda make the best cars in the world regarless what some haters think
A would've mentioned the VCM (Variable Cylinder Management) oil burning issues on many of the 3.5L V6 from 2008-2013. There was millions of cars involved in that lawsuit.
I kept having an issue with the VCM in my wife's 2008 V6 Accord during highway driving and the check engine light coming up after about 5 minutes. Started happening around 190,000 miles. I solved that problem with a VCM-Controller (about a hundred bucks 3rd party) and installed in about ten minutes a couple of years ago that simply kept the six cylinders engaged. No problems after that. What was weird is that unlike the thousands of others you mentioned, never had a problem with oil burning - just the check engine light which made the vehicle idle rough until the car cooled. Did notice a little drop in highway gas mileage after the controller was installed. I mention that because I was always surprised Honda didn't offer something like that to its customer base. Thank God for RU-vid videos like this or I would be in the crazed market looking for another vehicle.
