The fact that you put so much effort into naming every single victim really speaks volumes on your priorities with this channel, it's very respectful to the victims and I appreciate it
@@P1xelJunK ads are what help their channel to keep running. Without their ads I wouldn't even know this case OR hear the victims name...so your point is moot
@@P1xelJunK @smallfurball Both of you are fucking wrong. Dreading does not put ads on their videos. People like TMZ copyright claim them, and put ads wherever they please. It's why Dreading has a patreon. Christ. P1xel is a fucking moron
I love when you "break character" and say things like "WTF, is this Dumb and Dumber?!" It lightens the otherwise very dark and depressing nature of these videos.
Same! My favorite is when he cracks up over what he's reading. It makes me lol! He always breaks character at the exact moment I'm also thinking, "WTF?!"
The moments that you respected the names of the victims was so incredibly touching and hits so close to home. One of those names is multiplied by at least 2 or 3 of the families.
Since this shooting, there has been a foundation created in honor of the two little girls Alannah & Madeline, who saw their mother killed before having their own young lives taken.
Hold up, you're telling me this guy was involved in a few extremely suspicious deaths, and was known to patrol the streets with guns firing at tourists, but was allowed to just live at home and commit more crimes?
The 1990's were a wild time. This massacre directly led to a ton of gun reform in Australia, and nothing like this has happened since. The next largest massacre was a vehicular attack in 2017, and it still killed fewer people than Martin Bryant did.
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I have a 7yr old son with autism and ADHD and he used to bolt constantly. I couldn't even go to the bathroom without him climbing our tall upright piano and standing on top. It's exhausting, but it's not impossible to discipline him. This situation went to shit because he had *zero* discipline and was not diagnosed soon enough. What kind of moron buys an air gun for his violent child?
Don’t believe everything you read about Martin Bryant as most, if not all, stories about him follow the same theme ie to reinforce the official view. He had been assessed many times since childhood and his mother believes he had Asperger’s Syndrome, although some doubt about this seems to exist. Clearly Bryant had problems but any objective reading of the official documentation on Bryant throws up many, as yet unanswered, questions.
You've had the advantage of the last 50+ years of research that went available to his parents. That's just the first major factor that gives you a leg up here. Obv the parents were not able to cope, but the services you get today, including early intervention, were because of the drastic outcomes of children who didn't have that as an available option.
I feel so bad for Maurice. Caring for your son, watching him grow into this impenetrably strange individual, while not knowing how or even if he can help. When he tries too much, he is killed. It sounds like a nightmare, watching someone you love turn into a serial killer/mass murderer.
Maurice really sounded like a Great Dad. In better circumstances, where the world now is better equipped to deal with mental illness, or if Martin never had his issues in the first place, Their family might’ve become one of the happiest in the block.
I feel bad for the innocent Australians who were in essence stripped of their rights to have access to weapons (outside of traversing an endless series of bureaucratic hoops regularly) to defend themselves, their families or for sport because of this situation. As we've seen in the last few years, those citizens are the people now suffering tyranny with no recourse because of Carleen and Maurice's damn son and their failure to manage him.
@@rationalbacon5872 normal citizens dont need guns, you nut. My country has completely banned guns and we have never had a single shooting. Get help for your obsession
@@rationalbacon5872 hardly anyone in Australia cares about guns. When an incident got out of control, we banned the guns, that’s what you do. If we had them, we’d have ended up like America. No one wants that😱
It's kind of disheartening... like so what level of nurturing intervention is required to mitigate early childhood psychopathy, if not this? for some people is it just never possible to help?
@@srahhh Probably, but I also can't help but wonder how much damage the mother did to him in early development. He was already a psychopath, but it would seem to me that the mother excessively worried about herself and her feelings, not those of her child, at least from what I have read, seen, and heard. For example, her leashing him, seemed to be possibly more about her peace and quiet, than his actual well being. That type of parenting only makes things worse.
@@no-barknoonan1335 Man, growing up I never understood people who leashed their kids, but if every leashed kid grew up to become a mass murderer they would kill more people than world war II. I doubt she did any real damage to his psyche, the boy just wasn't right and he never got right. I wouldn't blame her a single bit. When you put leashing on the scale with the trauma getting lost in a public space or being kidnapped can cause a kid, it's a far lesser evil. I don't even know what could possibly be expected of her if since the moment the boy could walk, he'd walk right out the front door into the wilderness or traffic for crying out loud. I suppose she could convert the house into a prison, but then we'd be sitting here and talking about how abusive and selfish that kind of behavior would have been instead. Psychopathy can be overcome and a person can learn to at least imitate empathy if it doesn't come naturally if they're intelligent enough to do so. It might be as hard for them as learning to unicycle would be for your average Joe, but it can be done. When the psychopath lacks all the other necessary traits to succeed in life and they're extremely low intelligence, they can't really be helped.
Maurice definitely cared about his son, possibly even more than the mother. The only problem is Maurice was an enabler. Instead getting Martin the proper treatment he needed from health professionals. He would ignore it, he was more concerned with keeping the peace than actually fixing the problem.
This is the most in depth coverage of this story I have seen. I’m also an Aussie, and I never knew half of this info. Thanks for the in depth research you do. Such a heart breaking story.
@@frankwoods4179 enlighten us oh Wise One, for we are the uneducated. I for one am intrigued by this case and would appreciate learning even more from your good self, Sir.
@frankwoods4179 yeh dude what's wrong with you? I live an hour away from where it happened and I can assure you nobody has covered this story in such comprehensive detail. Any twit with a keyboard can do research but watching a well made documentary is a bit different. I'm assuming docos aren't your thing?
To be honest, he sounds extremely calculated about everything. Both plots to get money worked perfectly for him and he planned his travel and the massacre meticulously. IQ tests and literacy tests don't seem to be good indicators of someone's capability to premeditate.
i agree, the way he went about his killing spree sounds extensively planned out from putting his surf board on top of his car planning to make the trip back to the home where he killed david and his wife even bringing a camera into the cafe to record his killings it seems that he was just brushed off as being harmless and stupid after hellen and maurice’s deaths, not thought of as a harmful person when there were many signs of being dangerous leading up to the shooting
Concur: never underestimate the danger of a stupid person - they tend to ignore others' cares and seem to enjoy their own thrills over any understanding of humanity.
This is something I've really been turning over in my head since I first heard about this case years ago. It makes me wonder if he was smart enough to do poorly on the IQ test to make people underestimate his capabilities. There's just too much detail in the planning of all of it. I've known people who were clearly around the 70 IQ mark (their problem solving/abstract and critical thinking skills as well as forethought were abysmal) and none of them could have carried all of this out and not been caught WAY earlier than this dude.
One of my favorite things about this channel is the clear, well-written narration, and the rare (like once an episode) unscripted aside of "oh my god seriously" or similar interjection at a truly insane moment in the story.
This may be a silly comparison, but the dynamic between Martin and his mother reminds me of the one between the mother and son in We Need To Talk About Kevin. I suppose it has to do with her feeling as if Martin was vindictive towards her. (Edit: Even the dynamic between Martin and his father parallels the fictitious family. Woah.)
In regards to the mom and son relationship, it's so tragic that the mother would think it was great that a baby didn't need his mother. That it wasn't her job to slove this issue. Based on my own childhood, my mother often told me I was a good baby. I never cried or get really irritation or acted up. I was a very good and polite baby. Some people thought I was developmentally slow. However, by the time I was 6 years old I had full blown anxiety. I was so timid and afraid of situations and people. I felt so insecure and unsure of the world. I felt completely detached from my mother. She would get into fights and arguments with me about petty things and I was a six year old child. As an adult I had so many struggles. In my opinion when you aren't seen or validated or your needs aren't met by your caretakers early on, you don't form a healthy attachment, which leads to many issues and problems.
hey this sounds scarily similar to what i discuss with my therapist and feels really reflective to my own issues!! on top of having a hard time ever validating my pain, i have a hard time believe im smart and capable of things because my parents failed to teach me how to do things and then would just get angry at me as if i had popped out the womb knowing how to do laundry but jsut didn't want to i read a comment recently where someone said "you know it's bad when a parent treats their literal child like a selfish adult" and it helped me feel a little better and idk i hope it does you too. also imagine being grown and arguing w a literal 6 yr old - that part was so relatable to me bc my grandma used to do that to me until i moved out and MAN does it stunt a humans development 😭
It saddens me that there are many people out there who are able to have children yet are woefully ill equipped to and lack the adequate resources (physical, psychological, emotional etc) to appropriately nurture and care for a child. While it’s obvious that Martin’s mother’s response to her disturbed child i feel we need to bear in mind in that time many women were pressured to marry and have children who never truly had the desire nor felt any maternal urges. - my husbands mother was like this, a very nice person but never felt maternal and was emotionally disengaged preferring to play sport and other activities. These days she likely would have stayed child free and traveled. I had a different experience with a parent who was extremely emotionally reliant on me growing up. I say this not to invalidate anyone’s experiences but to introducen the idea that it’s not always due to malicious or cruel intentions.
The curse of the "good baby." I was also a good baby, which I'm sure lead to much less attention from my mother. She still had a baby in diapers when I was born, since I was an oops. Luckily my grandma started doing daycare for us when I was a baby and I'm sure I got plenty of attention from her. I have never felt much of a connection to my mom. I'd never tell her because I know she did her best with three kids, a full time job, and next to no help from my dad, but I feel like my grandma raised me more than my parents. Not everyone is as lucky as I was to have a grandma like mine living right next door. Not everyone gets to escape their sub-par parents.
I just wanted to let you know- you’re my favorite for this genre. I really love how you made a point to talk about the victims and mention all of their names with care. It brought something so positive (in that you did this) to this video that isn’t seen a lot, and I’ve honestly never seen done with this respect. Your videos are the perfect length, though I could listen to your voice for hours talking on anything as it is so calming. Thank you so much for this high quality incredible and unique content, you have a real talent, I can’t wait for more. :)
It really does create a more positive and generally more humane tone to the video. That was mainly why I subscribed, because every victim (even people in the periphery) were mentioned and spoken about how they were affected too
I almost cried during the name reading at the ending. Thank you for reading their names out. This was a tragic loss of life and they deserve to be remembered.
Wow I haven't heard those victims names for many years - gave me chills. I'm from Tasmania and an elderly friend and his wife were in the Broadarrow Cafe that day - they survived but she was never the same again. One of the victims was a distant relative. Port Arthur was always a very special place in Australian/Tasmanian history and this was a horrifying day in our history. Especially as SO many warning signs about this pos were ignored.
yeah, the pattern is mentally ill people being set up as patsies for staged, mass shootings carried out by black-ops in order to provide a pretext for gun confiscation.
@@Minris1I think it was clear she was without going into details. She may have actually had a milder version of what was wrong with him. It sounds like he was on the Spectrum to me along the ADHD. 🤷🏽♀️
I like how you don’t give away the ending when beginning this video, unlike most true crime which sensationalizes the case in the first 30 seconds to grab you into a commercial - “a brutal, SHOCKING massacre that NO ONE saw coming. 35 lives gone in SECONDS. the *heinous* crime that ROCKED the sleepy seaside town of Port Arthur to its **core** -AND haunts the memories of *mainland* Australia to this day. But the question that’s still on everyone’s mind: why? Welcome to-” ~90 second commercial break~ ~dives into interview footage of Port Arthur citizens describing how small and quiet their town is~ ~never mentions beastiality~
@Alice Marie Ugh I'm starting to honestly get tired of people putting on make-up while casually talking about serious crimes and making jokes. As it sort of feels like glamourazing it all, I'm just thinking how I might feel as a victim. But mostly why do people have to combine it with make-up, no one is there for watching make-up video anyway.
I so respect you to the fullest for reading out all the victims , I know that’s a small thing but it says a lot about your care for people and these victims. It’s sad that victims who lose their lives are just pretty much labeled body number 1 and so on. So I respect that to the fullest. Secondly : this case is so hard to know everything , I’ve seen only 2 videos that have actually reported it in terms I can understand and detail, this was great. This case is so insane tho it amazes me that it’s never talked about and literally no one ever mentions it or covers it .
_"... it’s never talked about and literally no one ever mentions it or covers it..."_ Really! There are dozens of videos, books & even a movie about Martin Bryant and the Port Arthur massacre. It was such a significant crime that it prompted the Australian Government to implement strict gun control laws (banning military style weapons), and a gun buy-back scheme.
Yeah, I dont mean to sound like a dick but Ive seen this covered a ton on youtube, try searching a little more if your still interested in the case. Ive even seen this covered on television alot aswell, so check into documentaries for more info too. Cheers friend.
@@Beautybybllc I think it kind of depends on what type of coverage it is, like those that go through the actual massacre usually mention the names of the victims as it happend in the crime. However i think names arent usually mentioned when that coverage is on the spree killers themselves and how they compare to eachother. Atleast thats what Ive experienced in my true crime addicted years lol. (Still addicted actually)
An extra, sad fact about this case is the 6 year old was found a short distance away from her mother after Martin shot her. She was behind a tree, the police said they believed Martin had chased her around the tree, cat & mouse style, taunting her before he shot her too😔
Man, y'all must have really good therapists. Researching all this horror must weigh extremely heavy on your minds and souls. I appreciate the truly hard work that's put into these videos.
If the creator is anything like me it probably doesn’t bother them all that much. Some people are simultaneously fascinated and repulsed by these dark, morbid topics. The more depraved the subject, the more interesting it is, for some reason. I compare it to eating extremely spicy foods; that is to say, even though you’re well aware that next bite will cause you pain you can’t help coming back for more. Always looking for something hotter to eat just to up the ante. It’s weird.
It seems like he was perfectly able to decide and control his violent actions and rationalized them, in order to explain away the malice. His disability didn't prevent this, so couldn't hold the blame instead of him. How he managed to be allowed to live and control the money on his own is shocking and the real issue...My heart to his victims
Interesting tidbit. My parents sat next to him on a trip back to Australia from the USA. 15 hours!!! At one stage, my mother asked to swap seats with my father as he was being so strange and annoying. He made comments about what my mother was eating and patted her belly at one stage. Funny how he could control himself on a 15 hour flight (other than being generally annoying). Remember that this all occurred pre-9-11, so security in airports and planes was a lot less than it is today.
As an Australian - thank you for covering this case with so much detail. I was around 10 when this happened so didn’t really understand at the time time, but wow. This was actually so much worse than I thought. The case isn’t really covered in detail like this ~ more Just as an example.
What's frustrating is you really can't say that his parents didn't try... They acknowledged his troubles, they brought him to psychiatrists, but all they got were shoulder shrugs rather than options for better treatment. You have to think that there could have been something, *anything,* that could have avoided this. It was a disaster waiting to happen...
Mental health care definitely wasn't what it is now back in the 70's. Even now it's a lot of guesses and shoulder shrugs, but it has come a long way in a lot of areas. Nothing can be done for low IQ, but I used to work with high functioning mentally disabled adults and I can attest that they are much more enjoyable to be around when they are on the right medications. Medication for whatever he had going on besides the intelligence issue may have helped him a lot with making friends and being accepted.
The psychiatrist was incompetent. They got emotional, wrote off the patient and missed completely obvious signs of at the very least ADHD. Like if you’re in the field of psychiatry you shouldn’t be so weak willed that you get mad at a kid and say he’s doomed because you’re all pissy that he wouldn’t pay attention. May as well start letting arsonists be firefighters or the blind be pilots. Seriously what the fuck kind of diagnosis is that 😂 “he’s annoying and i hate him”- doctor, 50 years old about a 10 year old patient brought in because he annoys people
This sounds like my brother. I was absolutely tortured growing up and the description that he seemed to want to aggregate people is spot on. I have no good memories of my brother and he's unable to keep a job, alcoholic, and has been homeless when he's not staying in extended stays. Some people are just born this way, unfortunately.
@@cheesecake4648 Genetics are real, with the roll of the dice it's absolutely possible for certain people to be born who are going to be miserable cunts no matter what circumstance they're born into. It's not fair but occasionally it can happen. Some people want to point fingers all day and act like there's ALWAYS something that could've been done but that's not true.
I'm still trying to understand how this man was so, so young when he started showing signs. Of all the cases I've heard throughout the years, this is the only one I've heard of a baby (literally) showings such weird behaviors toward his mother. Not only that, but apparently he was weird since he was born.
Mental illness can run in families and his mother seems to have had issues herself with some of her actions. I am also wondering if it is possible that his mother may have used alcohol, tabbaco or some kind of medication while she was pregnant with him that could have influenced his brain development; also, he could have gotten hurt during the birth process or afterwards and that this could have aggravated already existing issues he may have had due to genetics.
After looking into her she seems to (as of a 2018 60 Minutes interview) be in complete denial She believes that his father truly did commit suicide, that that was the reason for the shooting spree and for a while didn’t even believe Martin was the one to commit the murders, “She said that for weeks after the incident he claimed that he was never in Port Arthur and she believed him and that there was no evidence against him. "A lot of people on that day came forward after, people who had known Martin for years, that as far as they were concerned they didn't recognise the gunman as Martin Bryant," she said.
I agree, this was predictable and should never have happened. He should have been institutionalized much earlier, when it was obvious that he wanted and would harm people. He got suspended for a year after trying to drown a classmate. How is that not taken seriously? How does suspension in any way prevent future harm? As an Australian who lost a friend that day at Port Arthur, I cannot fathom how he was not detained much much earlier.
I'm sorry for your loss. This whole story was an atrocious lack of accountability. The attempting drowning should have been the end of it, he should have been institutionalized in some way at that point.
If not for the many tragic deaths Martin left his wake, his attempts to get attention and "friends" is ridiculously comical. I just envision him with a top hat and bell bottoms, twirling an imaginary mustache while discussing bestiality and the stockmarket with horrified members of the public. Wow...
i have no idea why but i felt kinda sorry for him😭 i know i shouldn’t because he was a mass murderer for gods sake, but he was just so socially clueless
While not the first time, I find myself crying for those involved and the impact of negative mental health services. I am disabled relying on another, the fear this has brought hearing how they found that home was almost too much for me. Thanks for covering the case as always.
so sorry to hear that. we continuously need to work on bettering the system, its still very much needed. I'm studying to work in this field so it pit me in the stomach as well. someone should have called in a long long time ago.
People can be so conniving. We were trying to place my grandmother into a conservatories since she is severely disabled and can no longer make her own decisions. The process was long and extremely painful and I learned just how far people were willing to go to take advantage of sick people who relied on them.
I am Australian and also an aged care community support worker, I am sickened about that as much as you, the movie didn't cover anything about the mother and her poor health and non existing care 😢
As someone from Tassie, the things he did still effect us today. I know people who were there and left minutes before everything happened, who knew it would save their lives. I've heard stories from a teacher who taught him and the locals who knew him. He was a smart but screwed up kid, his up bringing didn't help that either. Nowadays Bryan spends his time in prison playing xbox and doing 'favors' for chocolate.
@@ToriUptown Probably that's what happened. He was just evil ,weird, and lazy. He could have only faked the low IQ to manipulate people, like his parents into taking care of him and giving him money. He did pretty well for himself for having a low IQ. He ended up rich, and all the while received a disability check. He knew what to tell the cops too, after the car crash, to make it look like it wasn't his fault. It is very suspicious.
Here in Australia we were never told alot of what you have disclosed about the case.... Thankyou for your research and your delivery is very professional and respectful. Great work.🖐
What I find most disturbing is the picture of Martin with his long blonde hair looking like an "angel" as you're reading all this horrible stuff he did. Thank you for honoring the victims. This is the second video I've watched of yours. Your honesty and truth in reporting maybe more than I can handle. I've been a psychiatric nurse for almost 40 years
It’s honestly incredibly sad. I understand why you were emotional about it. All these poor victims, I can’t imagine the thoughts in their heads. Rest In Peace to all of them
Sarah went to my school, I was a couple years younger than her. The day after the shooting was one of the most haunting days of my life. Her mother was a true hero. She spoke at our school yearly, such a courageous woman.
Bless her. I have no words except I pray the memory of those gone will be a blessing to those here who love them. Not their last moments but the lives they led. 🌱🌷🌱
I've watched so many Martin Bryant videos, never have I learned so many extra facts about him from childhood and early adulthood prior to the massacre. Thank you, great video!!
Absolutely bizzare. This story went from strange, to confounding, to downrighht tragic. Really appreciate you reading out all the victims, as they are the ones who deserve to be recognized. Anothher incredible video
This all reads like the darkest comedy. Like, yeah he just started doing this thing where he'd grab the steering wheel and tried to kill her. It was just this wacky thing he did. Is that the same guy that shoots at tourists regularly? Yup, that's him. That's just another thing he normally does and we just tolerate.
I can see how this happens. The old lady and Martin engaged in alot of unusual behaviour - living in filth etc - so him grabbing the steering wheel is par for the course. Just something to manage in her eyes probably. And a BB-gun is just a BB-gun. No-one actually gets hurt. You can't arrest someone for that.
@@EchoBravo370 a boy in my hometown went braindead after being shot with a BB gun point blank to the back of the head. His best friend also thought you couldn't hurt anyone with a BB gun.
That was really kind of you to individually honor ALL 35 victims by name and age along with their pictures😢. Never heard of this story, but one of the many things I like about your channel is that you cover obscure cases in full obviously doing extensive research as well and not the same cases that have been covered over and over. However, any high profile case you have covered gave a different insight to the story and information not already given by other people who covered it. You're doing a great job.😊
@@funeralforahorse You obviously missed the point and context of my comment. It wasn't written to you, so your opinion about what words I used to express my feelings doesn't really matter to me. Have a better day, okay.
@funeralforahorse I can't stand people like you who come in the comments section to pick arguments just be a d*ck. Let it go. No, there is nothing insensitive about me or what I said. Look in the dictionary dude. One of the definitions of OBSCURE is " not very well known about ..." This case isn't well known and the person who posted this video shed light on this tragedy and the innocent people who died. Yes, people died! I know! My whole comment is dedicated to commending the kindness in acknowledging the victims as well as the sensitivity and research done in other cases on this channel. Either you didn't read my comment thoroughly, or you're really dense, unhappy, and just want to start sh*t. Let it go and leave me the hell alone with your condescending ass.
Definitely isn't obscure or unheard of in Australia. We just never mention his name or talk about the man's actions. Only remember the victims and that very sad day. Definitely not an obscure event... It made Australia tighten our gun laws and we haven't had a mass shooting like it since.
As someone who grew up with undiagnosed ADHD, it's BAD. Clearly this kid wasn't going through just that, but seeing a doctor acting like that about him just for having ADHD, it's fucking sickening.
I was just going to say, my oldest child has adhd and while he doesn't have all these tendencies, annoying others is definitely one of them. Once I got him on meds, he's usually a very pleasant child. I wonder if they would have put Martin on medication early on, if that would've have helped.
@@polygonvvitch for sure. Sad but true unfortunately. ADHD/ADD is much more than just being hyper and it sucks that it can be ignored by bad psychiatrists. Undiagnosed ADD can really mess up/negatively impact your quality of life.
It's crazy that the one politician (nsw premier barrie unsworth) said "It will take a massacre in Tasmania before we get guñ law reform in Australia" like 2 years before. And it did.
Congrats on the sponsors and great content as always! I can’t imagine how it would feel as a mother if your child was so repulsed by your touch. That must be such a horrible feeling… knowing that you can’t comfort or just cuddle your child.
Maybe the child is highly sensitive and touch agitated him/her. Not all children/babies want to be held, soothed, or cuddled by a parent. The child usually is sensitive to other things also. Food, light, smells etc
@@channingwalker1931 oh I agree he defn had sensory and attachment issues… not the child’s fault. I just imagine it would be extremely difficult for a mother to go through that. (Obviously nothing gave him the right to make the choices he did as an adult)
As a mother with a son with sensory issues, it is very difficult. Whilst he eventually grew out if it, when he was an infant/toddler, he didn't like to be touched by anyone but me. Anytime anyone else tried to change his nappy, give him a bath, feed him, he would fight or freeze up all his muscles becoming stiff. We worked for a long time to make him comfortable with others touching him. My son has Asperger's, which is under the autism spectrum. He also has sensory issues with foods and noise. He has trouble making relationships, problem with social cues, and appropriate conversation. However, my son has never been violent as Martin was. When he was first starting about Martin, I thought maybe he had autism/Asperger's. After listening to this video, I think it may be a strong possibility. That doesn't excuse his actions, but I think if he had gotten the help he needed, this may not have happened. He was failed by everyone in his life. Again, that doesn't excuse what he did, but as a mother of a child with ADHD and a child with autism spectrum disorder, these types of mental health disabilities can be, not cured, but treated in a way that they can become a contributing member of society. This is just my opinion...don't come for me.
@@mamadawn22 I too feel like this story could have had a different ending. Do you think society is better able to deal with children with these problems; or rather to help the parents to help their child? And I would think his cognitive disabilities, along with his obvious autistic behavior is a factor. He had the mental age of 11, so he could have learned more appropriate behavior. Honestly I cant judge his parents, but I would have been with my child 24/7 if I thought it would make their lives better. I also think the first psychiatrist, interviewing him at such a young age; shouldnt have given such a grim forecast of the future. Were these even child psychologists? It is just a heart breaking case for everyone involved, him , his parents and the obvious victims murdered in such a brutal fashion.
I’m only half way through the video but this is pure insanity and I don’t mean only on Martin’s part. I’m the caregiver for my Aunt who is mentally handicapped. She’s in her late 60’s but is mentally on the level of about an 8 to 10 year old. My grandparents did an excellent job raising her. Even though my grandmother told me one Dr told her she should put my Aunt in a “ home for people like her “ and move on with her life. I remember as a child my grandmother treated my Aunt just as she did the rest of us. She was loving but also had rules and excepted her to follow them as she did all the kids in the household. My Aunt is an absolute joy to be around. I understand Martin had serious mental and emotional issues but it seems these issues were mostly ignored. I don’t know what the answer is but buying him a gun definitely was not a good start. Excellent videos.
My partners best friend was murdered by his only child (son) two weeks ago. Absolutely insane story. He was dismembered. Crazy. I would love to see you cover the case, once it all plays out. The son is still being held in the psych ward at a hospital in Jersey until the investigation concludes. We have the wake tomorrow and funeral Saturday. Such a sad case.
Oh my goodness, my heart aches for your partner losing his friend and his family losing their son, uncle, brother etc. Thats just unfathomable. No matter how much I study mental health, psychology or binge true crime, I will never be able to comprehend such heinous acts. My heart and prayers are with you all!
@@reeree2091 thank you 💖 The family is just robotic at this point. Going through the forced motions. The “victims” (hard to still believe this happened) son was a beautiful 30 something young man, top MMA trainer, had been sober for a few months…. Of course they had issues but that our friends life came down to being snuffed out by his own child is still so… unreal. 💔❤️🩹 My husband called LE to let them know that the son is legit a top fighter and advised them to be very careful when in his presence.
As a South Australian, I really appreciate the research you've done. Quite a bit of information about Martin's life before Port Arthur I never knew of. Thankyou for opening my eyes more on this case. I'm pretty sure I've watched at least part of that interrogation here, on RU-vid. If anyone has the chance to visit Tassie (Tasmania) , DO IT!!! It truly is a beautiful place with a ton of things to see and do, including but not limited to Port Arthur which in itself is a full day of historic adventure. Also, the Mona Museum In Hobart is a must see!
@@TJfromEarth Because we lived through it. It had a cultural impact on the country a non-Australian wouldn't get. I also relate to the OP, I'm South Australian and I didn't know most of this stuff. He was just the embodiment of evil, they even doctored his eyes in pictures in some of the newspapers to make him look more psycho.
My brother in law was autistic but he was also 15 years younger than his brother and I. They couldn't put their finger on it because he was adopted and also had fetal alcohol syndrome and was a methadone baby! He was very much like this and extremely smart but now in college and on the path to become successful! We pushed him within reason out of his comfort zone and now being older he always thanks us for this!
You and Dave’s Lemonade are the only channels I get excited about when I receive a notification. Your research, insight and empathy are exceptional, thank you and congratulations with the sponsor 👍🏼👌🏼
Yo, I'm not pro-bullying but it used to be that when you were being bullied, adults would start looking into why and potentially intervene. Sometimes the other kids don't like you for a reason. I remember our class getting yelled at in 5th grade for not hanging out with this girl that would physically harm people, eat her own hair, and constantly talk about murder. We didn't bully her we just stayed away from her. She ended up getting caught trying to shoot up the school. Someone should have acknowledged her behavior years before.
In lack of a disturbed individual kids will pick on the one who fits in the least. That used to be me during my high school years in UK. I developed harsh OCD due to stress but otherwise I'm fine. They did try to find out what the hell is wrong with me through two psychologists and a psychiatrist like you're suggesting though, so they system got you beat in figuring this out. At least there... I wish they diagnosed me with OCD though, which was already becoming a problem, instead of aggressively pursuing having me pegged for some antisocial disorder and then just giving up.
@@lkorzechowski right. I was going to add that although it MAY sometimes be the case that children leave a actually disturbed individual alone or outcast them, there are JUST as many instances of people who have become millionaires, celebrities, talented, sensitive, smart, special members of society or proved themselves to be kind, good hearted wonderful parents or caregivers or any number of other helepful and well adjusted members of society. And they were picked on because they didnt have enough money, werent able to dress like the other kids, were shy and/or sensitive, didnt follow the crowd or give in to peer pressure or had a condition like the one you described that was not harmful to anyone and not make them unloveable or capable of making quality friendships and a whole host of other reasons why children can sometimes gang up like pack animals. So while I do understand the original commentors point, i also understand and relate to yours. It may be concerning that when a child gets bullied or outcast, that we set a precedent that the kids are right. Whereas sometimes there is something likely showing up in a child that is antisocial and dangerous, i would speculate that FAR more often than not, that's not the case and only a small percentage have somehting truly wrong with them.
Bullying has a purpose, it puts you in check and enables the person to grow up. A lot of us went through it. Now we coddle the deviant and demented and punish the normal.
@@ql6746 Uh, no. This case is not the norm. My personal experiences and the experiences of countless other people (some of whom I know very well) do not reflect your way of thinking. But I doubt people like you would be open to changing their minds. I could give you a ton of highly valid examples, but I doubt you'd listen- just discard that if you're so inclined, what a way to stagnate oneself and rot the mind.
I remember talking to my Nan about the shooting after I learnt about it in school. She said that the neighbourhood watch asked two families on her street had to move out bc their disabled kids said they were going to shoot up their neighbours, said she saw them 'spazzing out' in the cars as their parents strapped them into their seats as they left, they were rocking the car back and forth with their bodies. Its a shame, no-one trusted 'disabled' people in Australia for years afterwards bc of Martin.
They sound like dangerous and undisciplined children. It's sad when parents don't parent but blame "mental illness." If no one wants to be around your child then you're doing it wrong 😂
As an Australian, the memories of that day are so vivid, it's difficult to believe so much time has gone by. I knew the brother of Walter Mikac, the husband to Nanette and daddy to their sweet little girls, just 3 of Bryant's victims that day.
Appreciate the reading of the names and the apolitical tone. Your content is coming into a class of it's own. You have a bright future in whatever big time looks like when u get there shortly.
You don't start evil. You start messed up and then grow crooked if you're not raised correctly. Martin's mother had no idea on how to raise a kid like him. He needed boundries and correction that he wasn't given. He learned only bad ways to get attention and satisfaction instead of being taught to connect to people properly.
He is mentally disabled with intelligence of 11-year old child, has autism, ADHD and conduct disorder. He didn't get the help he needed. His friend died in an accident and father killed himself and was left alone in the world. He still tried to make friends though but it didn't work and he snapped. I feel sorry for him.
It seems like he had an attachment disorder. But from all that I know, which is not much, I thought that comes to children that don't bond with caregivers because the caregivers don't touch them very much. I wondered too if his mother wasn't mentally ill.
It's earie hearing about this case outside of my friends and family. My family lives only 20 minutes from Port Arthur, we lost a lot of people we cared for that day. 😕
There are no words to describe the rage I feel for people who harm animals or children!! 🤬 anyone really, but especially the helpless, naïve, and or vulnerable!
Geeeze Martin was almost exactly like me as a kid. I'm autistic and was out there as an autistic kid. I hated almost all people. I loved my grand dad and grand mom, my great grand parents and that was about it. Only difference my mom never put me on a leash. I hated going outdoors. I loved staying in my room. My parents had to force me to go outside. I hated "playing" with other kids. I was constantly in fights because I wanted nothing to do with others. Kids felt the same about me. I constantly saw school psychiatrists and psychologists. I fought teachers, students, security guards. All that yet I grew up to be a success thanks to family and many others.
@@cureforintroversion1262 God has blessed me really good! Trust me I know I did not do it all myself. I had the best help throughout life. It wasn't easy or quick but I made it!
@@exkelsior1486 Unfortunately in the time of my youth I DID hurt animals. I DON'T hurt people and animals NOW but back when I was a kid Yeah I did. I don't deny I was a monster as a kid. This is online and I could lie about it. I don't lie about my monstrous past because doing so helps no one. I share honestly my autistic horrors done as a kid and an adult in hopes it helps others find the strength to seek professional help as I did. I did not CURE myself. I did not just GROW out of it. I worked hard, I took medications and I talked to professionals that helped me see myself as I truly was and cope with the antisocial beastly things I found.
For multiple reasons I don't wish to explain besides saying I live in Australia, thank you and much love for covering this. Very insightful. Keep up the great work.
Oh man, I'm at the part where she had to put him on a leash. I get why she did it,it sounds like he was totally out of control; the stunts he pulled are straight out of We Need To Talk About Kevin. I think that movie took inspiration from this, things really line up. I really love how you dig so deeply into the backstories of the people or incidents you cover, you seem to dig up information I didn't know about cases I've known about for a decade or more. Great video!
What an insane story! Thank you so much for honoring the slain by posting their pictures and reading their names and ages. This is a beautiful thing to do for them. My daughter is a survivor of the Virginia Tech shootings. Each of the survivors have the 32 victims carved on their hearts, and they "live for the 32." That is to say, each survivor is aware that they received the gift of life that day, going home to their families and friends, and they do not take it lightly. They choose to live their lives to the fullest because the 32 can't do that. So you honoring the slain here and in other videos is very important.
@@wendelee8639 No, they don't. Their names are engraved on their hearts and minds, though. They're never forgotten, and the survivors have worked hard to live well and be successful in honor of the 32. ❤️
As an Australian, I remember this all too well. In fact my husband and I were at Port Arthur just 2 months before the massacre. I greatly appreciate you naming everyone of his victims. Thank you
This might sound ridiculous but I think that part of the reason that nothing was done to take Martin out of society was not because of apathy but because of the lack of violent crimes, especially gun crimes, committed in Australia. And Tasmania being an island state with a very small population, this kind of rampage would have been completely unthinkable to almost everyone. I think it was just a matter of "that kind of thing would never happen here". But as we all know, after it DID happen, the Prime Minister banned guns in the whole of Australia. We haven't had a mass shooting since.
@@LadyStarrk When I said "banned" I meant they became far less accessible to the general public than they had been previously. I'm aware that there are exceptions for sports shooters, collectors and farmers etc. But even then you have to pass strict criteria to be eligible for a licence.
I know of a story that you could cover. It's not a person but rather a building The Arthur G. Dozier School for Boys. It was a boy's prison and it seems like every southern serial killer/rapist went there at some point. It closed down about 10 years ago and they found just an absolute massive unmarked graveyard in that back. My uncle went there in the 70s
Interesting, sounds similar to the place my parents met, a 'troubled youth retreat' that was actually more of a forced labor camp in the middle of nowhere called Anneewakee in Georgia. My mom told me stories of what it was like there, no supervision or protection, just a bunch of messed up kids ranging from runaways with neglectful parents to total violent psychos all let loose on each other in the woods. It ended up getting shut down after a waterfall of abuse allegations, staff raping kids, kids raping each other. Apparently they found lots of bodies in unmarked graves there too. They made the kids build wooden cabins out in the woods to sleep in and according to my mom it was an open secret amongst the kids there that they had them build cabins over unmarked graves. A lot of the kids there were 'lost causes' whose parents didn't care enough to check in, and if a kid went missing they said they just ran away. When you turned 18 you could literally just walk out, nothing but the clothes on your back, not even telling your parents you were gone. My parents turned 18 at about the same time and that's what they did, just walk down the road for hours until they reached civilization, and then lived in a broken down car in the woods until they could afford an apartment.
The saddest thing about this, to me, is that I suspect that a few social stories about the “unspoken rules” of social engagements, at the right ages, could easily have made him a happy, social and responsible person… (Social stories are used to teach social skills to mentally disabled kids, and can be made by a parent.)
I was just reading about Nathan Carman last night because he was just convicted of his mother's murder. That would be a great case for a deep dive! Thanks as always for your sensitive, informative, and captivating videos. I get the creeps watching at night but I do enjoy listening while at work!
Was he convicted? I think he was only charged with the murder of his mom and grandpa, but he def should be convicted. I always thought his story was fishy since the dateline episode with him.
@@ashleyrose4115 Oh you're right, he was just charged. After reading an article that went into accusations against him my brain just told me "OH yeah, he's convicted."
I never have too much trouble listening to this sort of stuff but this one is something else. As an Australian who has been to Port Arthur this is truely horrific. Hearing that he managed to cause so much harm within the first 20 seconds is just heartbreaking.
Excellent presentation/Documentary. Not mainstream and so well done. Your channel just came up in my feed today after a month of watching these kinds of short Docs. I'm now subscribed.
I love your narration and the little bits of laughter etc. It shows you are an actual person as opposed to just a narrator reading from a script. Love this channel!
Well my friend, it’s hard to imagine but I do believe you’re getting better-can’t believe that’s even a possibility! 150k huh? Outstanding, simply outstanding! I’m not familiar with this case and I’m happy you’re the one covering it. May you continue to grow and happy to see the sponsors! Very proud :)
Holy crap dude every one of your uploads are mind boggling. This one should be made into a movie. Dead serious. I bet a movie about this monster that follows his life like you did would be a huge hit. It's disturbingly entertaining and horrifically tragic yet impossible to look away.
Oh my Dreading, you are in the top 5% out there for true crime analysis and story telling, in my opinion. It’s no wonder your channel is literally doubling subscribers in just short weeks!! So happy for you!! This case is so unreal and depressing. It’s horrible how people choose to ignore clear mental illness to keep up a facade. Will you please do the Shawn Gates (Ohio) case? Dave’s Lemonade, another favorite channel, did a great job on this one but I feel like you have enough difference in your takes that it would be quite interesting. Or Robert Bordella if you’re feeling twisted. Haha. Thank you for the amazing content you put out!!! 🤍
Cunning is a different type of intelligence that I don't think we take into account. True crime shows many cases of people with supposed "low IQs" who still showed great cunning.
I have an absolute request. I grew up in Arkansas in the US and just found out about a serial killer named Ronald Gene Simmons Sr. I would be fascinated to hear your thoughts on his motive. He killed 16 people, 7 of which were his family.
My son just turned two yesterday. Hearing that he murdered multiple children fills me with spitting rage. Living in America as a parent, I have certainly had scary thoughts of my son going to school and becoming a victim of a shooting. The picture of that little three year old girl brought me to tears. Rest in peace to all the victims of this strange and horrible monster.
He was a patsy. This was set up to create a pretext for gun control in my country. It's actually fairly well known here that he wasn't the real culprit.
I had watched videos on this case before but his past had largely been glossed over. I feel bad for Maurice with how frustrated and hopeless he must have felt about his son... but holy shit did Martin not get the help he needed. Also, you gotta love the medical professionals who got frustrated with him instead of....... referring him to someone else capable of dealing with him. This is all around so unfortunate.
i mean… was there anyone who could truly help this guy? i feel like medical professionals just saw him as a lost cause but instead the way they failed him was not protecting others from him
@@aseofhearts idk if anybody could help him, I'm not a professional. But there's a lot more that could have been done for him and also to protect the public from him.
....he killed his father and helen, who cared for him very much. people like this are just off but sure yea it's very easy to blame the people around them.
When you come to the comment section just to find others beat you to it. I really like hearing you break character. Your laugh, I stop what I am doing and laugh with you!
great work as always, and major props to you on securing sponsors within 3 months of starting your channel, congrats ! i’m glad to have found your channel in its early days and i’m excited to see how far you go from here :)
Discovered your channel yesterday and I spent All night binge watching your content, I love your respect, sincerety, and the search for Informations and détails you out in your videos
I listened to a documentary about the killing on that terrible day But i'd never read the story about the man who committed the crimes.. this was heartbreaking from beginning to end. Thank you for sharing it.. these stories need to be told
