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The Cinematic Sin: The Filmmaker's Guide Back to Reality

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Your video isn't cinematic, sorry. Cinematic has to be the most improperly used word in the filmmaking youtuber world. What does it even mean? All these short 1-2 minute videos titled "cinematic" and it's just a collection of boring streetscapes or emotionless and meaningless scenes. People actually think having the background blurred out is cinematic. Shooting at f1.4 isn't cinematic, it's often distracting and weird looking.
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@cameraconspiracies Год назад

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@worminstool Год назад

Where is the homeless man washing kit you alluded to?

@SeanTolan_illuminated_imaging Год назад

My main complaint was articulated perfectly here. No story=no imagination=NOT cinematic

@into.the.wood.chipper. Год назад

What if you shoot at 30 fps and have a story? Can 30 fps be cinematic?

@Yupthereitism Год назад

@@into.the.wood.chipper.no

@Tappits84 Год назад

@@into.the.wood.chipper. 30 fps wow,. you might as well be doing 120fps, and if its not filmed in 3D its not even real. everyone knows 1 frame per week is the maximum framerate.

@orangejjay Год назад

@@Tappits841 frame per week and only if you can tell everyone there's maximum B O K E H .

@SMGJohn Год назад

@@into.the.wood.chipper. What if you stopped caring about cinematic and just had good lightning, audio and a damn good story to tell, to hell with the cinema.

@andrewbaxter9395 Год назад

Toneh is for people on Teams calls who are embarrassed about their house. Decorate your home, it’s cheaper than a lens.

@vincentsolon3216 Год назад

hahaha so true!!

@dkkeyz8815 Год назад

Cinematic is not a shot or a special FStop, it’s a chain of shots that combined together pull the viewer out of their world and into yours. It’s a well planed out sequence. Not a camera, lens or LUT.

@azuki2919 Год назад

Well said

@s1opp Год назад

The Cinematic Triangle: Blurry Background, Black Bars & 120fps B-Roll Honourable mentions; Aggressive colour grading, fake lens flairs & lo-fi background music. RU-vid scrubs of the World unite

@zaczerlany-band Год назад

@@Dar1usz depends for who that is "outdated", it still looks more inspiring than raw vhs style video it's more about too long shots and slow-motion to make it "more inspiring" if each shot would be like 5s max nobody would see its a fake

@mattcarlson12 Год назад

I hope Phil Bloom watches this. His toneh addiction is real. Last video his ear wasn't even in focus. It's... distracting.

@RedBlackFilms Год назад

I've learned that pursuing the maximum amount of Toneh is a side effect of not having a great location. I've come to prefer shooting everything at f/4 and above, only going wide open when I want to utilize it's characteristics for specific things.

@365ayear Год назад

I'm honored that RU-vid has been recommending my one minute video content to you 🤭

@EvanLindy Год назад

Stay golden Tonehhh boy! Best camera channel on the tube!

@derricksmith3138 Год назад

"You're not a movie bitch!" I can't stop laughing....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@charliejg Год назад

Good Morning my cinematic friend! Ha! Just as you said "it's all blurry, what happened. A RU-vid said it would be cinematic", an advertisement jumped in for the Google Pixel and it's "cinematic blur"! LOL! This point you're making is spot on by the way. If you're vlogging don't you want to show where you are? Yes, it is! A nice extra as you know, is that when you stop down you increase your DOF and zone focus becomes easier making it more likely you are in focus. Loved this gem of a video. You use silliness to teach. That is good. Have a great day!

@sunflowerdeath Год назад

Soooo cinematic! So filmic! Really painterly, dreamy bokEh! Such subject and background separation!!!

@VinnieCamilleriMusic Год назад

These are the brighter parts of my day watching these, I'll be your friend 🤣🤣🤣

@iambenlerner Год назад

We need more cinematic interludes.

@jessecumberledge4530 Год назад

What makes movies get that 3d look you are used to, is from using long focal lengths. Majority of OTS dialogue scenes are shot at over 100mm equivalent. Most youtubers don't have the space inside and its hard to film yourself at this length, so its not used very often. I have been toying with shooting at 135-150mm for face shots and I am loving the look I am getting. And NO you don't have to stop down to the minimal T/F stop to get the look you want.

@jaegerschtulmann Год назад

And nope you got it wrong, the greats like Deakins prefer focal lengths that are closer to the human eye perspective like 40mm. Lighting, is far more important to achieve the look than the lens.

@jessecumberledge4530 Год назад

@@jaegerschtulmann Deakin is my hero. Also can't argue with you about lighting one bit. It is and will always be the most important part of any shot ever. But for majority of hollywood the OTS shots are done at longer focal lengths, the compression really gives a 3d look and allow the actors eyes to really come to life. Yes Deakins shot 1917 with a 40mm prime, he didn't want to change much because the movie is supposed to be a ONER and he didn't want the distortion change. That said there are director and DPs that prefer wider angles. I have no problem with that. I still stand by what I said. If you want a OTS closeups you should experiment with 100mm+ focal lengths. Its kinda like a cheat code for depth... but like you said you can't cheat lighting!

@petersuvara Год назад

Why, oh why, doesn't SONY add focus breathing compensation to that damn A7SIII, the Zeiss 55mm 1.8 is a glorious lens, only let down is the focus breathing.

@jpsteiner2 Год назад

This should be the first video in Cinematography 101. Great humor. More Samyang!

@KurtGerster Год назад

Finally!! I've already lost all hope to see another toneh video.

@JoATTech Год назад

Most movies are shot at F2.8 on S35 sensors. So DoF is more than F4 on full frame. They even close to F4 and sometimes to F8/F11. Cinematic F1.4 :D :D :D I got the same recommendation ("Cinematic" clips shot on XX Camera).

@offgrid-bound 11 месяцев назад

Dude, next time I am in T.O. , I want to take you for a drink. I can only imagine how much your humour and sarcasm looks like after a pint or four… 👏👏👏

@TobbyTravel Год назад

I love how you always pick such relevant and fun topics. I'm one of those 'cinematic' Sony vlogger guys. Thanks for the laughter.

@MutantSnowCone Год назад

You had me at 8 Tonehs in the bedroom.

@thissidetowardscreen4553 Год назад

I don't know what I just watched, either it was so beautifully cerebral and beyond my comprehension or a desperate cry for help? Either way it was gosh darn entertaining! Thanks Kasey!

@Zacheldridge Год назад

That sweet jerky focus breathing around 2:30 is very cinematic.

@raedchen1 Год назад

well. i NEED that 0.95 or 1.4 wide open. because i am doing pics and clips at party, event, club, concert. so the background blur saves me work to blur faces from ppl. that don`t want to be on picture. 🤷‍♂also i need every piece of light i can get at night. so there is often no alternative for me - i have to shoot wide open or at least f 2.0..

@phylumofthefree Год назад

i got an old zeiss distagon 35/2 - that thing is magical. wont ever get rid of it.

@FelliniMotorcycle Год назад

Please make an idiot’s (photographer’s) guide to video-making. I’m a 2nd rate photographer trying to smush together 3rd rate videos for an anemic RU-vid channel. You’re smart enough, trustworthy enough, funny enough, and handsome enough to make it happen. Seriously...

@EricCalabros Год назад

Best educational video that I wateched this month.

@SpaklesDr Год назад

if a focus pull were possible with a one man crew that would solve the problem. Get the background established then focus on the subject. Truly cinematastic. Also it all depends on your goals. If your goal, like many vloggers is to assuage your raging narcissism, then of course you want everything else obliterated in the background so that only your beautiful face (the only important thing really) is in focus.

@mrolibuilt Год назад

well put and good observation on the narcistic element

@igorvuk4454 Год назад

love you content, hate the sandals

@igorvuk4454 Год назад

❤

@haak737 Год назад

The birds passing by at 10:23 where very cinematic...Cormorants?

@TaoCovillault Год назад

"Luckily it's the friend we've met along the way that... I MADE NO FRIENDS !" You killed me, as always 🤣

@sotocine99 Год назад

Now my mind is blurry.

@bubbles581 Год назад

I do love the 90mm macro. That lens pretty much lives on my camera.

@joedlafferty Год назад

Your videos are like cheese. I know it’s bad for me, but I’m drawn to consume late at night, and I just want more. And it gives me dreams, occasionally nightmares.

@nicksavage4763 Год назад

CLEAN T-SHIRT WITH NO WRINKLES 🎊 YOUR GIRLFRIEND DRESSED YOU TODAY 😎

@christinasmith9032 Год назад

I like the *slightly* blurry background.

@blackbugmedia Год назад

I really think f/2.8 is the magic number. Anything shallower than that is just unnecessary in most cases. It’s almost like Canon knew about this before they made the 2.8 zooms 😂 lol.

@wakkowarner8810 Год назад

Anything lower than f/2.8 means you need to add more light to your scene to get proper exposure

@phlomix Год назад

"I'm leaving, how you doing?" wish I could say stuff like that

@effystrip2480 Год назад

I've seen toneh addicts that blur out so much of the shot they end up blurring half of their subject as well, like food shots.. half the plate is blurred out. If seeing that doesn't give me a confidence boost in my own ability then nothing will.

@carlosamat Год назад

again, clever and funny as hell…

@ina00203 Год назад

In my opinion shallow depth of field has to be chosen under the circumstance of its requirement to support the storyline, or a specific look that film maker wants to create. Not all the shots with fully opened aperture looks great, but we can guide the audience eyes to what is important in the frame. Shows like Euphoria utilized shallow depth of field to its best. Good video bro liked it very much. Your contents are fun to watch

@j-smack4147 Год назад

Me an my cheap kit lenses never have this problem

@ericaceous1652 Год назад

Agreed, it's nice to have context, and backgrounds provide that context

@cuddlebear34 Год назад

THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO, finally someone says it.

@JoeMischiefGXC Год назад

Tom the caveman invented joy in our hearts…

@martinhommel9967 Год назад

Great vid. Thanks

@JKastle007 Год назад

I wish Thunder Lilly’s existed

@chrisharris_arizona Год назад

I laughed, I cried, and then I subscribed.

@hyatguy Год назад

Oh Captain, my Captain!

@rapauli Год назад

This is one of your best, most instructive videos. Thanks.

@georgedoodle212 Год назад

Got to love the "cinematic" shots at sporting events too. I love seeing the player come in and out of focus and all the spectators and rest of the team blurred out.

@dougfoss1372 Год назад

The "Cinematic Interlude" was pure gold.

@ChadsGarage1 Год назад

I stayed for the thunder lilies.

@JoeMischiefGXC Год назад

Thunder Lilies are go!

@JoeMischiefGXC Год назад

@@arkphotog If we all wish hard enough they will exist.

@sbeckmesser Год назад

Loved the Mary Tyler Moore hat toss at 3:05. If not cinematic it was definitely sit-com-ic.

@marcelvanbodegom Год назад

Some dont even dare to leave their house.

@rtbarker Год назад

I'm still here for those thunder lillies! Only anamorphic is more cinematic than this, however too many obnoxious flairs are certainly on my list of negatives.

@raytaylor4199 Год назад

Try the Canon RF50 1.2 or the RF85 1.2 for 3d pop whilst still being able to see the background, those 2 lenses are in another league.

@harrison00xXx Год назад

too much elements not enough 3d-pop, they look too clean and sharp, as most modern lenses

@sashaisaac-young9183 9 месяцев назад

The earth is flat! Omg great video. Too good. Thanks.

@SuperNicktendo Год назад

This is why I went with the 24-105G f4. I didn't want my images to be super blurry. Also I was finding that even at 2.0 my nose was in focus but my ears were not.

@J_digs_ Год назад

I love the way you get your points across , id love to hear how you approach your storytelling in like a short film or something, you are very creative 👍

@audioupgrades Год назад

Cinematographers need a lot of skills to shoot cinematic footage. They usually shoot stopped down, rather than wide open. Framing and blocking is part of these necessary cinematic skills and CC is doing that throughout this video.

@harrison00xXx Год назад

The thing is, with many "cinematic" effects like for example a subject following, any cool perspective changes etc you often have to rely on expensive tracking stuff for example a circular or straight frame where your camera slides smoothly on it and at best motorized. As this one youtuber, i forgot his name, he has his camera literally mounted on a super expensive robotic arm with 4 or 5 axis, allowing ANY movement for even better advertisement and showcase videos than the real manufacturer produced. Or just look at those camera cranes with IMAX cameras on it for hollywood productions etc, thats some serious expense.

@audioupgrades Год назад

@@harrison00xXx True. Camera movement is a big part of a cinematic look. You can do it manually, but it takes a skilled crew.

@intersportasia9521 5 месяцев назад

5:35 davinci resolve will also give it to you if you understand how to use masking, exposure and maybe sometimes with moderation: vignette.

@ShadesOClarity 10 дней назад

The Toneh doesn't look bad at your marina location. It's a good location. It looks good either way with the Zeiss. The CN Tower scene stopped down looks better.

@DelmaRaySmithJr Год назад

While pursuing the perfect camera Dipswitch discovers the perfect therapist . . . (hint . . . It's the Music).

@MaxWright7 Год назад

The 3d pop is as real as the moon.

@Getoffmycloud53 Год назад

With depth of field comes the challenge of composition, because you are not hiding anything everything is part of your image and if your composition isn’t right you’ll never have a balanced image / scene. So where a shallow DoF has its place, more DoF requires more skill.

@rodneytatum6920 Год назад

A lot of problems can be solved by asking why. Context can keep people from saying, "I need a wider angle lens so I can get everything, but I want a 1.4 so I can blur out my landscape view because someone told me it's cinematic." When the fundamentals of, a time and a place for everything, is seriously lacking.

@dkkeyz8815 Год назад

I love sarcasm, so I love you. One of the most entertaining and yet sometimes informative too!

@JoATTech Год назад

And regarding taking video of people ... I've done some testing and apart of full body shot shooting below F2.8 makes no sense. Because even your subject is not fully in focus. Faster than F2.8 shot might make sense if it makes the story. For example the dream shot at F1.4 or faster lens might add to the story. Or you want to show isolation of your character.

@SCHOOLOFLIGHT Год назад

I love you man!

@NoName-rg3np Год назад

I like to think of earth as a giant cd and the sun as the laser that reads our disc.

@SteveAEee Год назад

I have finally seen the "POP" - was it the Zeiss?

@rkivlogi Год назад

Camera wisdom AND parkour skills? Had to 👍the video

@bujin5455 5 месяцев назад

This dude is involved in a full scale war against the Toneh.

@skyscraperfan Год назад

Some people even add a fake anamorphic flare to their videos to make the footage look "cinematic". That is like thinking you look like Harrison Ford, if you scratch a scar into your chin.

@Moneypizzle Год назад

Dat poor firmwareless A7sIII focus breathing pain tho😬or at least give an extremely slow/smooth focus setting 😩

@flugga182 Год назад

just came here for the cinematic interlude

@JohnsClicks Год назад

There's one thing about "stopping down"- the toneh isn't quite as good due to the shape of the blades. One more point for M43.

@Maebbie Год назад

come on i needed to see that third eye, if i wanted to see toneh i would stop the video down to 240p

@elianmusic7452 Год назад

incredible. love your down to earth presentation and also i share your opinions on "cinematic" -- ugh. Cheers man

@johndoane7200 Год назад

Winter will be here soon.

@-grey Год назад

Tony 4 is the ideal amount of tonys for cinema. A 16-35 f4 is the perfect lens for RU-vid scrubs.

@harrison00xXx Год назад

Tony 4 for full frame! For APS-C its like 2.8 for most regular focal lengths and for MFT partially even F0,95...

@ktor538 Год назад

Dig your humor 👍

@ParityError0110 Год назад

ROFLMAO!!!!! "Now we have 8 Toneh's in your bedroom" Say "Hi" to Tom.

@Chad_D Год назад

I don’t know how else to say this but I could’ve used more Tonies 😮

@MarchalisVan Год назад

if you watch Murdoch Mysteries, which is set in the past. You get a lot of outdoor blurry shots within more open area, as hey use it to hide all the modern things in the background that they can't otherwise hide lol. Saves on CGI budget, saves the watchers immersion.

@barrysoutthere Год назад

"My God" sounded a lot like Charlton Heston, who was definitely cinematic.

@just_inhawaii Год назад

I enjoyed the longer focal lengths of this one. Kinda tired of the ultra wide look. Personally, I never use anything wider than 24mm.

@Ryanbenitezfilms Год назад

Imagine going over to your friends house, it's completely pitch black inside and this video is playing on a giant tv, and a man is sitting in an office chair staring at this video intently.