The Clocked Up Holy Engine Scandal of the UK Police BMW Fleet 

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Great vid as usual. But running down todays cars by being no more reliable than older cars from decades ago, might give 'them' ideas as a further excuse to condemn us driving cars? In other words, don't give them more ideas to get rid if cars! Also, why have you got an E *l ^o "n M ^u "s *k advert butting in inbetween your video?

Funny you'd say that, since examples of all sorts of (governmental) corruption are reported on, all over the "mainstream media" all the time.

@@stephengoddard3313 That advert is probably a HYIP scam. I have been reporting those.

Putting a hole in a motor with only 10,000 miles... can't believe the stupidity

not the first time it's one law for them and another for us...

It´s one big corporation, what would you expect?

@@miroslavzima8856 “It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it!” - RIP George Carlin

Stop putting spaces before punctuation.

You have totally misinterpreted the issue

Awesome 😂

😂

heh once i was jailed for a short period of time and was tampering with a plugged hole to the lock mechanism i fished out a piece of paper rolled to a ball. opened it and it read" forget it, its not worth it." made me laugh so i just rolled it back up and put it back. 😁 and for those wondering it was for a falsely accused traffic violation that i refused to pay, hell no am i gonna pay for something i didnt do, i was pretty stressed out by work at that time so that little vacation was just what i needed to recharge.

bahahhahaaaa

Absolute BS. You never had to take the steering wheel off a 5 to take the clocks out

@@artful1967 There would be no point arresting anyone for "something", no one needs the work because there is more than enough real work, no one wants the paperwork, and no one in their right mind wants a failed prosecution, which is exactly what they'd get if the alleged offence can't be proven in court beyond reasonable doubt. Maybe you or those that told you that rubbish are of "dubious repute"??

@@artful1967 you know it

You only have to ask. But people don't know that.

The police cars don't get mot fact

I heard that apocryphal story. "It happened to a mate ... "

That was from the book Four Wheels to a Fortune.

Lol

It happens to me ! Not that I was clocking the car (an HA Viva since you asked!)

Everyone's heard that story, Urban Legend maybe?

The police don't do MOT checks because they inspect their vehicle every 2-4 weeks for maintenance, repairs and safety. Much more robust than MOT checks. It does make for massive issues on the mileage records as there's no proof. As for drilling a hole into an engine, that's just wrong. No idea why they're doing this.

As long as the hole in the block doesnt affect the pistons of the crank or any of the oil or coolant drains in the block, its an easy fix😂

​@@iHelpSolveIt what is the fix for it?

@@swift2117 Assuming the hole didn't hit the combustion cylinder, and only hit one wall on the coolant jacket or oil gallery... Tap threads into that hole, and screw a bolt into it as to plug the hole. If the hole went through TWO walls, then that's a little more complicated... Depending, you may be able to intentionally enlarge the hole on the outer wall, in order to plug the inner wall. Then plug that outer wall with a bigger bolt... Again, all of this, won't work if we're talking about the combustion chamber.

@@reallifeengineer7214 thank you

Police cars regardless of age DO NOT get an mot they ARE exempt . Fact . I am a mechanic and I service the police cars

@@user-ux3ek1iq3p fair enough, every days a school day

No police cars regardless of how old they are DO NOTTTTT GET MOT DO YOUR home work

They do NOTTTTTT get mot regardless of how old they are

They are mot exempt

You're not alone.

And there is nothing we can do about it.

Bring down the corrupt establishment of this country. They are not supporting the hard working tax paying citizens.

​@@271chrissydisobedience

Don’t f£&king vote Conservative then.

roug and deep! balls and all

Aw yes.. take government that is part of running massive scam and most likely in on it from the get go, to court... owned by the government.. in a country full of freemasons... bloody brilliant idea. You wont get anything done via courts since massive corruption, i mean have you seen the laws constricting basic things like speech in UK?! and they own police, military and media, well as have massive surveillance apparatus, paid by you, so violence is not really option ether. We have been divided and conquered. Only massive mass offensive from the populous that they simply cannot hide would be effective and even then worlds MSM will run propaganda for them and their buddies will send their militaries as aid to suppress "the terrorists" ie the people, though there is a chance they will be taken back by it... but then again Canadians and French already tried this an mass tactic, so they probably are better prepared this point.

The court with their law? Do you think the law is designed to help the slaves?

@@oldblack15 hahaha

But the police are lying about damage, repairs, mileage and general abuse. I'd steer well clear of any ex police vehicles, especially after hearing all this. There's an ex Police Interceptors cop on RU-vid that also goes into detail about why you should NEVER buy a car from the police.

how on earth could you ever trust that data though? It's evident they're at the least looking the other way, I wouldn't expect them to be truthful in the service history and/or their own mot stuff (it's the inspection done yearly or however often it's done, in the UK, right?)

@@JohanHultin they're checked by fleet management and verified by 3rd party here, you need to enter the odometer at the servo when you fuel the car up as well, and if it doesn't fit within a range based on a few things including the odo reading at last fill up, you will either have to check and confirm it is correct, then sign the receipt, OR you will have to force an overide, again signing the receipt, so everyone knows who authorised that fuel up and what odo reading was on that car at that time. To defeat the system and adjust the odo reading on a Police vehicle here would not only be incredibly difficult, it would require pretty near 100% co-operation from any officer likely to drive or fuel up that vehicle, and that will NEVER happen, i for one would never leave myself open to getting nailed for that.

Exactly, and a lot harder back then!

@@GeoffBuysCars YOUR WRONG YOU HAVE TO CLOCK THE MILEAGE BACK BEFORE THE MOT

@@chiefweedy7763 That's what I mean, clearly.

You can't verify the mileage of any vehicle . Even guaranteed mileage sales aren't guaranteed only by the Auction houses policies , I know of loads of haircut cars gone through the block sold guaranteed mileage that have had mileage reduction or correction. Even new vehicle dealers can reset mileage on delivery miled vehicles and I've seen them do it . People all over everyday are having odometers doctored , guy near me does speedo and keys and they line up outside with the German marques for correction. Some come yearly pre MOT or service not to mention the number of lease loan private cars done inc motability vehicles . So please tell me how they know its guaranteed . £45 and less you can reprogram the mileage on 90% of new cars .

@@LifesAbe-ach ECU might show if it’s been tampered. I’m fairly sure VCDS for VW/Audis would have a log of some sort

@@driftwannabe1099 mate ya full o shite and thick as frozen gravy . If the dpf is hot enough it doesn't need regeneration ya muppet as the soot particulates get burned off how a dpf is supposed to work not forced using excess fuel to raise exhaust and dpf temps through obd or ecu input . Idling cars or short runs kills diesels with dpf and egr related emissions controls . Like I haven't forced regeneration on a car before , been running , racing and repairing diesels for 35 years ... Pop in my garage and look at me scalextric ... 😂🤣😂 . Bet you say that to all the kiddies with ya bag of werthers . Regeneration on scalextric 😂😅🤣😂😅🤣😂😅🤣

😂😂 where’s the comments gone? Tweet tweet realised he messed up? 😂

@@m311ssa3 Still there cretin . Try a dictionary if ya struggling

@@driftwannabe1099 offered who ... your thick as gravy ... you stated pop to my garage not me, I was takin the piss but ya too stoopid to realise that , I don't entertain nonces ... the great regeneration mechanic 🤣😅😂 bragging he knows how to use a scan tool 😂😅🤣

@@driftwannabe1099 Runs such a great business and a epic social life he's got time to see a troll on RU-vid. What's your pronouns ? . Nonce ?

Its still a fraught...... if not also a documentations fraud

I am just imagining here, but imagine if the guy drilling the hole also attended the auction with his friend. Imagine how easy it would be for him to just drill a cheap part of the engine that's easy to fix so his friend could make 15k buying, fixing and selling it. Imagine him getting a kickback. It would be so easy for the mechanic to find someone within the trade and to arrange that they will drill a cheap, easy part that's easy to replace and to tell his friend which car to bid on. In my view, that is stealing from the tax payer and corruption. Do you think anyone would ever have connections to the motor trade and make it easy to fix these cars, perhaps taking a kickback for doing his job extra carefully? Would it technically be illegal if he did properly drill the engine and disable it, only in a cheaper way for the garage to fix? After all, he did successfully disable the engine with a drill. Could he mask the kickback by receiving cash in hand? or a discount on a new car? We will never know. But it's an easy way for a man to make a kickback. I'm sure some will have thought about this

When the entire UK air ambulance services depend on charities to operate, When the "system" makes it virtually impossible to claim the tiniest benefit, When 350,000 patients in England waited more than 12 hours to be admitted to hospital from A&E, When every public service has been destroyed, All while the British government pursues imperial plans by building non-functioning multi-billion air-craft carriers to send them in the, ehm *South China* Sea to "contain China", then it's not to expect anything better than the Police. They themselves have budget cuts, upon budget cuts. The problem is elsewhere, it is in the minds of those who govern this place.

@@nomayor1 Regardless of all of your very valid points, this is STILL HYPOCRISY on the Police part!! They cannot expect everyone to OBEY THE LAW when they themselves disregard it!!

If you don't know the scale of criminal activity in Polish police, you don't know the true disgrace. No gang, no criminal group is rotten as much as the police. They punch 130km/h across the town. Drunk during the night patrol, not even slowing down at the crossroads with the STOP road sign. They turned ON the emergency lights and signal on the roof. They make it this way because when a car crash happens, it is entirely the other car owner's fault. They commit crimes like they would drink morning coffee. They are 100% above the law, even with a murder caught on camera. The entire nation has lied - they made up the event so it looked like the cop shot and killed a young man because he defended himself from a youngster's attack with scissors. The cop was only asked to retire. Killed a young guy when without no reason tried to catch him while holding the gun in hand, safety-off, round in the chamber, finger right on the trigger. The ministry made up the entire story at the moment's notice. Nobody (aside from the people demonstrating the next day) faced charges. So that's the current Polish govs scum for you.

I do love how the world spins sometimes... Police break law: Meh, were above the law WE break the law: Police show up at your door to arrest you Police could get away with murder while we get sent in for so much as dropping a pencil it's ridiculous

I did the same once, when I repaired my crashed motorbike.

How, as buyers can we not get burnt by this?! At what level of dealer are we safe?!

@@koolerking440 to be honest it’s rife at all levels of the trade. I’ve seen main dealers selling cars that have had serious accident damage regularly that some how are not recorded on the write off registers. Same goes for clocked cars. Do you research is the best advice I can give you. There’s plenty of free Smartphone Apps these days that you can check a cars mot history on. The main advice is even if you buy a car from a main dealer before you do for the sake of around £15 do a check with one of the following companies as they also check if cars have been police cars etc and also have history of vehicles going to salvage auctions as unrecorded crash damaged vehicles that should be write offs but some how skirt around the official channels and don’t get registered as such so dodgy dealers buy and repair them and there then sold as having no major accident damage recorded. Motor check Car Vertical Vcheck There’s cheaper ones available but these are the only companies that I’ve seen so far that really do through vehicle checks. For my business I personally use Motorcheck and I’ve come across several cars that they have flagged up as having serious accident damage and/or clocking issues but yet are showing as History clear through other sources. They also actually show you photos of cars that have been through salivate auctions as well. Vcheck actually have a Facebook group that they share some of there horror stories on which can be an interesting read. Hope that helps a bit.

Where do police forces keep these vehicles prior to going to auction? Be a shame if those sites all suffered a natural disaster, like a flood, all at the same time

@@realbigtrouble there not kept anywhere. There sent direct to the Auction houses up and down the country.

Isnt their mileage logged at MOT time?

Volvo D5s were bulletproof pre DPF too, it's absurd the impact of a product (dpf) that doesn't reduce emissions, it just displaces them to the motorway or wherever they're regened.

Amen. Modern "eco friendly vehicles" are an utter hoax. My BMW was meticulously looked after and is now dead after just 80k miles. 2 garages can't even identify fix the "electrics/sensors" fault. These cars and the whole system are a fraud.

I had an OM606 E300D Estate on 255,000 miles until Mr Khan forced me to get rid of it.

Absolutely correct, that's why the moment I bought my secondhand E65 730d M57, i removed everything emissions related (swirl flaps, EGR, DPF, and coding that monitors it), and the result is better fuel economy, more power, and reliable again as they were before the world went into a frenzy over this climate change BS.

old Mercedes diesel. 300d wear the milage as badge of honor 500k? still young 1mil? eazy. drives like new

That's what killed off the Roman empire

its international mate. Same shit hapoens here but different story here in australia. Police make their own laws.

It begins with the UK Government. Very noticable after Thatcher and increasing thereafter.

Probably not even the people higher up - it’s not worth their while, but for the fleet manager wanting to look good at his next annual review - just small corruption with a big impact

I’ve been saying this for years the higher up they are the worse the corruption gets

Especially if you KNOW that the car is ex-police issue.

Not true using the correct software it changes the ecu clocks and keys mileage and can’t be traced. I know this because I’ve seen it done

@@tommyaffs4549 I write the software. If you modify it. I will know. The mileage is stored in the airbag,steering column and various other places. Its write to only. Additional the GPS stores total miles as well. About 50% of cars under 10 years old have GPS built in belive it or not. If you are modding the milage and you retrieve the GPS data you can see where and when it was modified.

One I knew bought a car and when I see it I did recon it and look inside it at the speedo. The speedo was clocking 150 K miles but when I drove the car last time almost two years before he got it it was over 300 K miles. I told him but he was not willing to talk about it with me...... then I knew who did it. It was still a really nice car with all bushings new, tight and not a single sound.

@@craigkinney853 100% correct

Jesus Christ, someone with more than half a brain.......

So what about if the buyer gets the car serviced @ main dealer and it also had been serviced @ main dealers previously. Wouldn't it then be noticed?

@@rippawallet The service history gets "lost". I suppose the benefit from the decreased mileage outweighs the penalty from having no history apart from the MOT. And MOTs are always legit, right? lol 😜

@@pompeymonkey3271 are you suggesting an MOT check of a vehicle online is not kosher?

@@stuartd9741 I did not mean to imply that there is any corruption within the MOT testers! The MOT inspector only has the mileage on the odometer to go by. So they dutifully record it on the certificate as is required by legislation. Nothing wrong with that. But... The average consumer trusts the diligently recorded MOT information implicitly because it can be verified on an official UK government database.

​@@stuartd9741 I did not mean to imply that there is any corruption within the MOT testers! The MOT inspector only has the mileage on the odometer to go by. So they dutifully record it on the certificate as is required by legislation. Nothing wrong with that. But... The average consumer trusts the diligently recorded MOT information implicitly because it can be verified on an official UK government database.

In Poland we also have odometer reading when u get stopped by police eg. Ticket. That's mean they don't even go anywhere. They pull data from cloud put mileage and send from vehicle. Also they have MOT done on third party station, sometimes they send unroadworthy police car and send "economy" unit.

But the Police is expected to perform a couple of steps bytter than every man. Strickt regulation of this in Scandinavia. It would never pass.

There's already consumer protection against clocked vehicles. The problem as ever is enforcement. Police seem helpless and hopeless when it comes to fraud.

Insurance companies are the dodgiest when it comes to payment. They accepted the vehicle as declared and charged the premiums as based thereon. But now they say "false...we won't pay"?

He was right, you don't need a speedo (working or not) for MOT. However, using it on the road would've been illegal - even back then. Easier now, you can use your phone as a speedo (DigitalHUD etc)

I've only ever had one speeding ticket, and it was before speed cameras. It was back in 89, and a cop with a speed gun. I was doing 50 in a 30. I got a £30 fine and 3 points. Different today though.

@Tango_sixteen Is that so, officer?

@@wowbaggertheinfinitelyprol6262 🚔 100%

@Tango_sixteen Of course there is no law of corruption for police!

@Tango_sixteen can you elaborate. Is a higher power involved here....

@@tango_sixteen foxtrot Oscar. We know 🐂 when we see it !

More crooked than the crooks , disgraceful ! One law for them another for those who pay their wages.

Easier, on older cars, to buy some clocks and drop them in. Nowadays, it can be just a bit of mot prep to put the originals in then swap them again a couple of hundred miles later. Not clocking, but at least it doesn't increase. So I've been told...

@Tango_sixteen Im fairly sure he did the math and realised it was a way to save money, why is that pathetic? Insurance is the biggest fraud out and what keeps me out of a car despite having one accident when I was younger now I would have to be unlucky with my level of experience behind the wheel but Im priced out of it.

@Tango_sixteen Stop right there criminal scum

@Tango_sixteen Jokes aside, not all criminals and fraudsters are immoral, the system wants you to be a good little boy and behave while it shits on you from high above and expects you not to try to do better for yourself and your family. I sound bitter but im not you just get to a certain age and realise everybodies out for a buck and some of the biggest thieves and frauds out arent the common man who takes a little here and there its massive entities robbing on a mass scale legally or not and its the common man who pays for it.

@Tango_sixteen 🤣

@John Coleman Hi you shouldn't have any problems getting insurance, you do not have to tell insurance companies about any Accident that happened over 5 year's ago and some only require you to declare those over 3 year's old. The only thing that would prevent you from getting insurance at the same price as anyone else who had never had an accident is if it was your fault and you where over the drink driving limits in which case you would have to declare the conviction which would stay on your record's for 10 year's. Hope this helps good luck 👍

Funny how "conscientious" people can be when it's someone else paying the bill.

Said Mike, who pays his mortgage from a police contract 😂

@@Tjw1 lots of forces can use dealers to maintain vehicles. I’ve seen police cars at my local BMW dealer, in the workshop, many times.

Wishful thinking.

@@stevemcha7129 yeah I won't hold my breath.

But it’s not the police clocking cars, it’s either the auction houses or the retailer.

@@stuartelliott1933 yes. But to be fair and above board. The police should MOT the car before sale. So the car is legit and can't dupe unsuspecting -mug- customers. But they won't because it would devalue the potential sale(s) of the car/stock. Now we could say the police are acting in the best interest of the tax payer to get the best price at auction.... .. The fact this has been going on for eevver and is common knowledge in the industry suggests all's fair in love and war and perhaps police auction sales ......

@@stuartd9741 it is legit and it’s something to do with crown servants. They also don’t have an insurance policy for the same reason.

@WEST AUDIT REPORT mmmmmm doughnuts

@West Audit Report fish n chips bought in Barmouth after pursuit driving tuition instructor "anyone fancy fish n chips yes sir ok put on the siren and lets get there before closing

no doubt he would think to give one of his meaningless non committal replies same as most of his useless vids.

I doubt he'd touch it Knowing he's part of the legal system.. (Wouldn't be good for his reputation or career) One guy up against every police force in the UK.. David and Goliath springs to mind....

He'd say the police are wonderful but hire a lawyer anyway. Poor souls need to eat, apparently. Remember, they are courts of law, not justice. Many piglets on the teat of that old sow.

makes a change from Land Rovers with rotted out inner wings, sills and seat belt points that had just went through an MOT a few days earlier...Several years ago i reported 4 Discoveries to them and they threatened me with legal action so i just got in touch with DVLA and gave them the reg no's. I hope they got their comeuppance too! snotbags that they are!

Yes and many of the cars from Brightwells end up on sale at Colchester copart auctions with no mention they were ex-police vehicles. The big giveaway is the calibrated speedometers Lol.

Yep, otherwise you have the biggest gang in the country after you.

Makes no odds. The filth will just plant one anyway. No legwork involved.

@@monikacognomen1096 just think on you wouldnt' be safe anywhere without our police try India China Russia Iran,,,,, for corruption

I worked with a guy who’s car had a digital odometer. The only thing he had to do was pull a fuse out to stop it from working. If I remember correctly, I think he even fitted a toggle switch so he could turn the odometer off when he was driving long motorway journeys. The fuse also stopped his speedo from working but he either didn’t care how fast he was going or used a gps app on his mobile phone.

@@notmenotme614 once you know your car you can rely on the rev counter to show how fast you're going, I don't know too much about digital speedos although I do know that there are companies that offer a "mileage correction service" whereby in the event that your odometer has malfunctioned and is now showing more miles than it should they can reset it to what it should be (or what you tell them it should be lol). The downside is that you can't go less than the last mot and I've heard of several cases of cars never performing the same after interfering with the mileage, whether that's to do with the ecu or the people who changed the mileage didn't do it right I've know idea?

They aren't allowing anything. They are selling it through the auction. The buyer (often a car trader) then clocks the car, and the fact that police cars are exempt from MOTs means the usual method of catching this isn't available (mot history). The only valid point is that if the police MOT'd it b4 selling then it would make it more difficult/limit the amount you could clock it by. But why should they have to pay for an MOT to stop someone doing something against the law? That person shouldn't do it anyway, if it's mot'd or not. Where do we draw the line? BMW are continuing to manufacture and sell the cars. They are allowing it!!

It's not shocking because its not true, the Police aren't selling clocked cars through auction, not sure a 4 year old Hyundai with 167000 miles at auction has been clocked... if it has, only to add mileage?

@@gnarzimtb755I agree the guys missing his tin foil hat. 😂 the police service their own cars, they have mechanics of their own. I don’t get why he thinks it’s the police responsibility to make sure someone doesn’t clock the car after they have sold it… and it’s some kind of scandal. And yes you bet they don’t pay full price, neither would anyone if they were buying hundreds of thousands of cars each year. It’s good business for bmw to sell them at below cost too!

If you drive backwards in the taxi, does it lower the mileage?

Cabs usually show very easily,, just whistle and it will come to you!!

Knackered boot struts and hinges are a good tell for an ex taxi. And an engine bay drenched in oil, of course.

@@speakupreality633 Yes, if it's a mechanical speedo, but it would be a slow purpose. If you wanted to take off 20,000 miles You would have to back up 20,000 miles. No, I don't think you could do the with an electronic speedo.

Changing the mileage isn't actually illegal, it only becomes illegal if you claim that the mileage is genuine. At one time a lot of traders used to put a sticker on the speedo stating that as they couldn't guarantee that the mileage displayed was accurate it must be considered false.

I hope you don't pay any attention to the mainstream media. I don't have a television. And if I don't listen to the radio that day I feel great without a worry in the world. The amount of panic and fear they are trying to feed into us is shocking.

More investigative journalism here than in any 'Reach' publication

only time i watch any media on the TV is if im visiting people, internet for my tv and no Ads and refuse to watch anything pushing the Government Agenda. if i do at least you are able to comment to at least give the chance for others too see and make own mind up than i one sided view you get watching the government tv, mainstream its Scare “Divide and conquer” is a strategy used by elites (often understood as “the oppressors”) to break down the relationships and unity between subjugated (often racial) groups struggling for justice, freedom, and liberation, in order to maintain the status quo. have a look through last 5-10 and you can clearly see they are pushing the Divide us really hard, its like they have much bigger plans for us. maybe the The Great Reset | World Economic Forum, You Own Nothing but you will be happy.

You drove it in a way which you seem to know was no good for modern diesel with dpf and then it went wrong? What did you expect?

@@danmoney9932 Thanks for your input but ...No I didn't know back then, so my expectation was for it to behave like a brand new car. If anyone was to blame, it was the Renault dealer who recommended the car in the first place, knowing what job I did and that it was going to be used around town, stopping and starting but like I say thanks for your input but when you know the facts........;0)