We try to fix the whats in front of us but we neglect to fix the reason why it traveled to be where it is now. Peter is right. This is HUGE. THIS is why our society will collapse. We fail to go back. We are too narcissistic and we have built up such speed that we cant stop and turn around. Sad.
If Christian churches spoke the truth then Christianity wouldn't be failing. They only have themselves to blame. The conversation of what God is never happens. We live in the darkest of times. There is no light.
True. It's like people's perception of the church now is just like a self help therapy session. Some modern churches now only seem to want to push all the positive messages (which of course are good messages 'love your neighbor' and all) without actually discussing theology and how God normally is anyway for fear of scaring off the modern crowds with all that "religious nonsense". Just take the parts that make you feel good without discussing all the responsibilities and problems with ourselves because those make us feel bad. Not to mention some churches have whole systems dedicated just to squeezing tithe and donation money out of people, so it's no wonder the west is so disillusioned with modern Christianity
@@corneliusquincydavenportic1913 In my view, God is "the All", and as such it is the Creator of all things, including all of good and evil. The light and the dark. Today our minds are so shallow that we can't even begin to think about such things. I wouldn't be surprised if a newborn baby has a deeper mind than a modern adult, and it's all downhill from there.
@@davidhawley1132 ". . . not Christian" It depends what you mean by "Christian". I believe that the Christian view is that there is good and bad, right and wrong, truth and falsity, knowledge and ignorance, light and dark, and that all these exist within the Oneness of God.
@@corneliusquincydavenportic1913 Let's ponder something very obvious and obviously accurate and relevant: Throughout history, Christian institutions outlast all states and state institutions. The Church has an immortal divine Teleology, as much or more than a divine Origin. Christian libraries are littered with the tombstones of dead states. Once outsiders note these obvious true statements, many of them want to know more about Christian institutions. Christians show up. Christian are not Christians "in their heads." Let's listen to St. Paul. "For the kingdom of God is not a matter of mere talk, but a matter of power." - 1 Corinthian 4:20.
It's interesting to compare Peter and brother Christopher. Their beliefs are completely opposite, but they express them very similarly. They're both courageous, articulate, persuasive, and have thoroughly thought through their ideas. I have to say I admire Peter more of the two. He's taken the less popular stance and has to have even more courage.
Not only was the First World War significant in the decline of the Church, but the ideology of Marx, Nietche, Freud and other atheist philosophers has been profoundly influential.
It wouldn't have mattered. The political force of Winston Churchill was so great at that time that it's unthinkable that anyone could have put a dent in it.
"Things have an effect long after they have happened." I have observed this for years. Like tsunamis that follow an earthquake in the ocean, there are short-delay phenomena and long-delay phenomena. Humans are so short-sighted that they are often blind to those phenomena - consequences - of phenomena which only appear after a long period has passed from the original cause.
I will head over to the full interview n rewatch in due curse but would like to say that there is very good reason why we have lost faith in our institutions John n yes indeed - not just in our government's alone.
What is the deal with Peter Hitchens? He makes some fair points, but nothing earth-shattering. He's so lugubrious and borderline nihilistic that I don't think he's helping.
There are many new converts and also more non practising christians becoming practising christians and reaffirming their faith in Europe. All is not lost yet
One problem with religious belief is the difficulty in actually believing in priest's ' truth' claims of supernatural events and their claims to understand the wishes of a supernatural God type being who is alledgedly 'beyond space and time' . As his brother Christopher put it, ' extraordinary claims requore extraordinary evidence.
Formal Christianity's tongue has ossified around a very passionless academic Biblical scholarship, which admits only words of increasing specialization. H.G. Wells addresses this: "The suggestion of the possibility of further restatement is an unsettling suggestion; it undermines conviction and breaks the ranks of the believers, because there are enormous variations in the capacities of men to recognize the same spirit under a changing shape. These variations cause endless difficulties to-day. While some intelligences can recognize the same God under a variety of names and symbols without any severe strain, others cannot even detect the most contrasted Gods one from the other provided they wear the same mask and title It appears a perfectly natural and reasonable thing to many minds to restate religion now in terms of biological and psychological necessity, while to others any variation whatever in the phrasing of the faith seems to be nothing less than atheistical misrepresentations of the most damnable kind. " The Open Conspiracy.
Love seeing my pops having sincere conversations. Sincere conversations is where the Aim can take ROOT. Beloved remember thy lives was DESIRED 1st. Came with sincere conversations beloved with God, to thyself, and to one another beloved. Same measured will be given. Sincere answers
There maybe a collapse of traditional christianity, but there has not been a collapse of spirituality. There are now many avenues for spiritual exploration and development. The time of "just believe" has gone. Christian doctrine was developed at a time when the vast majority couldn't even read. We are more sophisticated now and know more. Christianity will have to adapt, or die.
The danger of giving up is that it starts with simple things. Then it doesn’t end until the big issues are waived!! The Christian religion and Christians at best, from political and economic-technological domination, yet they talk and predict collapses, what is the significance of this? The Islamic religion and Muslims in their homelands and other countries suffer, even all those in political power in Muslim countries are not Muslims, they are only agents and subordinates of those who put them in power, with all this religious cohesion and societal cohesion is very strong, what is the secret of this?
@@mohamedali2858 Humans have a need for identity and belonging. We cannot survive as isolated entities. Power nearly always corrupts religion or politics.
@@DIBBY40 Many people do not show the truth of their thought except in crises, so God sends down the crisis to bring out the secrets & qualities(31 And We will certainly test youpl until We know those of you who strive and those who are steadfastly patient, and (until We) test your reactions.[ Surah : Muĥammad ]
Christianity will not adapt to the members of secular societies and it will not die(certainly not in Eastern Europe)You the western world people will vanish and die (replaced by Muslims )because you abandoned it!!...
England must recognise their fault in the 20th century wars if Christianity is to have a resurgence. The Church of England has collapsed so badly that it will never recover, and only the Catholic Church has a path forward, since Benedict XV and Pius XII never supported any part of the war and desperately tried to find peace.
Recently finished the book ‘when money dies’. Fascinating to see US currently engaging in very similar tactics to weinmar. Fiat currency has never lasted long and this time will b no different. Needless to say I sold all my stocks and now stack Bitcoin and physical gold and silver. Hyperinflation of USD is not if but when
Why are wrong decisions made by individuals in churches serving individuals and politics not separated from the truth and values of sincere Christianity? As happened in the removal of religion from state affairs. Why does the church approve everything that contradicts the Godic teachings in favor of politics and people's wrong desires? Why is Christianity deliberately offended in every opportunity?
I agree I had a hard time hearing him too. Peter tends to speak quickly and doesn't have clear enunciation of his words so it amplifies the problem with the audio is off.
@@1ofSevensisters "doesn't have clear enunciation of his words" I think that's what the British working class call "having a plum in your mouth". There are British accents that even the British can't understand.
The industrial revolution started the decline of Christianity in Europe. The urbanisation of villages and towns,the brutalization of factories,hard work,long hours,low pay and early deaths started to put a wedge between god end human beings.Then people became more educated,science took a leading role in people's sense of reason,and God seemed not so powerful and meaningful anymore. People started to live better and longer when medical science saved lives regularly in away religion could not. God has all but died.Evolution became the new religion,but did not need God or supernatural occurrences to explain life's existence or that of the universe.
Because of this, many among you are ill and sickly and many are asleep {captive to the religious spirit}. 1Cor. 11:30 Aramaic Because of what? For whoever eats and drinks from it being unworthy, eats and drinks a guilty verdict into his soul for not distinguishing {spirits of} the body {of believers} of THE LORD JEHOVAH. 1 Cor. 11:29 Aramaic For whenever you gather with the assembly, I have heard that there is DIVISION among you, and certain things I believe. 19There are going to be CONTENTIONs among you, that those who are approved among you may be known. 1 Cor. 11:18 Aramaic Division and contention are works of the religious spirit. The worship of idols, witchcraft, hate, CONTENTION, rivalry, rage, insolence, dissensions, DIVISIONs, Gal. 5:20 Aramaic So who is approved? Those who have not partnered with the religious spirit but are led by The Spirit. But if you are led by The Spirit, you are not under The Written Law. Gal. 5:18 Aramaic Whoever therefore eats from the bread of THE LORD JEHOVAH and drinks from his cup and is unworthy of it, is guilty for the blood of THE LORD JEHOVAH and for his body. 1 Cor. 11:27 Aramaic Because of this, let a man search his soul, and then eat of this bread and drink from this cup. 1 Cor. 11:28 Aramaic Jesus fulfilled the parable of Lazarus rising from the dead and they still didn't believe. Jesus said that Lazarus wasn't dead but 'asleep'. “But he said to him, 'No, my father Abraham, but if a man will go to them from the dead, they will be converted.' “ 31“Abraham said to him, 'If they will not hear Moses and The Prophets, they will not believe him, even though a man would rise from the dead.' “ Luke 16:30,31 Aramaic These things Yeshua said and afterwards he said to them, “Lazar our friend is resting; I am going that I may awaken him.” John 11:11 Aramaic
Re Britain I believe we are witnessing the core state of a former Empire collapse in on its self 1914 began the process It’s a pity we didn’t become like an Island Austria Norway Hungary or Denmark after 1945 instead of still trying to be a great power!
Well, generally Christianity is a code of conduct to live by. Plus not all Christian denominations practiced ex communication. If Christianity was an archaic constitution then I ask compared to what. Currently secularism is the code of conduct where if you subscribe to Christianity then you're seen as an odd ball, especially in Western Europe.
@@TickleMeElmo55 When you go to court, you put your hand on the bible and swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. What was and is the point of that ?
@@saturupiah5940 just speaking from observation. Freedom is subjective but there just seemed to be fewer rules, less cameras, hardly any parking restrictions, motorbike helmets optional.
Peter Hitchens, imho should dedicate the next full year - FULL YEAR - to the study of Jonathan Pageau in all his lectures and offshoots. Humanity needs a Hitchens pulling for its survival. Please heed!!
Mumbles makes the ever-popular _post hoc ergo propter hoc_ fallacy. It has the wonderful advantage that if something bad happens, you just look into the past and pick out a scapegoat. Very handy. Or, applied differently, you can keep hammering on your scapegoat right from the start until something bad happens, as always does, and then you have your target ready to blame. You really can't lose this way. Unless, you know, you have any sort of integrity.
The 'rule book' is an oblique reference to the idea that a people without a strong moral compass will have to be ruled by an endless stream of rules imposed by coercion.
He's better than his brother in terms of journalism. Christopher is only famous in the US n consider that the US has low standards while Peter is more successful as a journalist in the UK