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Abdominal anatomy is complicated enough as it is, but it gets trickier when we try to define “The Core”. Everyone wants to strengthen their core - it’s a go to for physical therapists and strength and conditioning experts, but there is some controversy about what muscles count as core muscles and why.
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@CoelusGame
@CoelusGame 3 года назад
Good video core-poris
@Corporis
@Corporis 3 года назад
That's such a good video-specific pun. I've taught you well :)
@georgf9279
@georgf9279 3 года назад
Beat me to it - by five months.
@jamiewood539
@jamiewood539 Год назад
Pilates instructor here. Love this information. Very helpful as I build my class plans and help clients learn about their bodies.
@SolCoreTherapyFitness
@SolCoreTherapyFitness 2 года назад
LOVE that you are bringing attention to ALL the muscles that contribute to the "core."
@roneducator
@roneducator 9 месяцев назад
There is no core!
@reilly6187
@reilly6187 3 года назад
I was about to tease such a large youtube channel for having so few views, but then I realized it had only been out for 3 minutes
@Corporis
@Corporis 3 года назад
I appreciate the pre-emptive tease regardless!
@dots4dots-art195
@dots4dots-art195 3 года назад
Omg thank you so much for making these video’s. I was struggling not visually seeing what I’ve been studying.
@ConstructiveMinds100
@ConstructiveMinds100 Год назад
This channel should have far more subscribers. Thank you for creating this jewel.
@smoothieadd1ct
@smoothieadd1ct 3 года назад
Wow! This video was so much more educational than my anathomy course book! Thanks Patrik
@chickenpickle131
@chickenpickle131 3 года назад
I love this channel. I can't stop watching it.
@bubblebee72
@bubblebee72 3 года назад
Thank you for always making me smile as I learn! The Princess Bride reference was spot on! Also, I giggle every time you say 'dooblydoo'! :D
@nikevisor54
@nikevisor54 3 года назад
Thank you for the implicit reminder to stretch and warm up before deadlifting Also, excellent video yet again!
@Corporis
@Corporis 3 года назад
Just doing my duty :)
@DrJacobGoodin
@DrJacobGoodin 3 года назад
Awesome video Pat. I give my structural kinesiology students an assignment where they design a core training program that incorporates both movement and anti-movement (aka isometric stability) exercises, and then ask them to explain which muscles these target and why we need both for healthy function and performance. Your video explains this so succinctly while addressing the nuances they need to be aware of as future practitioners.
@Corporis
@Corporis 3 года назад
Thank you for the kind words. For me, the highest compliments are from teachers -- I appreciate it
@xwn3945
@xwn3945 2 года назад
I love this video explaining the physics and how core muscles work in animation and inciting research. It is much better than a fancy strong guy showing off his body and his way of exercise and telling you “Yes you can”. Subscribed!
@RealignWithRachel
@RealignWithRachel Год назад
Just found your channel! Your videos are awesome and so helpful! I also like how you throw some silliness in there too ;)
@ZHe-bu4tm
@ZHe-bu4tm 2 года назад
Love your videos, thank you so much for your content good sir :)
@MonicaHamalainen
@MonicaHamalainen Год назад
Awesome video! I find it encouraging that you focus on the holistic benefits of core exercise in this video rather than following the "showy ab" trend that doesn't provide true stability and overall health for your core and back. As a future PT student, I am glad to see someone taking such an interesting and applicable approach to teaching anatomy and physiology!
@shawndanielle6370
@shawndanielle6370 3 года назад
Tk you. Very much enjoyed learning from this video, looking forward to others, available and to come. Appreciate your channel. Much success to you, going forward.
@Corporis
@Corporis 3 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@formigalformigal
@formigalformigal 3 года назад
dude, this is fantastic content. intelligent and well-researched. you should be proud
@joe_black84
@joe_black84 3 года назад
Great video, thanks for sharing!
@holleehagen6533
@holleehagen6533 3 года назад
Helpful explanation as always! Great video!
@Corporis
@Corporis 3 года назад
Thanks again Hollee, I appreciate it
@marwahalharbi187
@marwahalharbi187 3 года назад
That was very helpful, thank you :)
@mckenziebell7961
@mckenziebell7961 3 года назад
GREAT VIDEO MR KELLY YOURE SO SMART. so good 👏🏽
@Corporis
@Corporis 3 года назад
Thank you Kenzie! I hope the school year is going well for you so far :)
@brandicebradley5227
@brandicebradley5227 3 года назад
I just have to say THANK YOU 🙏!! I have just started my Nursing school 🩺💉🧠🧬 classes and am now in my my pre- nursing courses. A&P-1 is already hard, then you sprinkle COVID on it and you feel more lost 😔 than EVER 😩! BUT when there are wonderful people like you making these AMAZING 🤩🙌🏻 Videos, thank you just isn’t enough! So again Patrick, thank you because I have really been learning soooo much from you and I LOVE ❤️ your teaching style! You make things so much easier to understand for my classes, when everything during COVID is asynchronous and beyond overwhelming. With that said, would love to hear some mnemonics you may have on some topics to help me remember for when I’m taking those extremely looonnnggg anatomy exams again ! ( I have a feeling you will make them funny 😂) Thanks again, and can’t wait to see/learn more from you! From- your new fan and future RN 🩺👩🏻‍⚕️ !
@Corporis
@Corporis 3 года назад
Well that's so sweet of you to say! Thank you and good luck in your program. I have a few mnemonics based videos (my cranial nerve video is probably my best) but which topics in particular would you like to see?
@brandicebradley5227
@brandicebradley5227 3 года назад
@@Corporis Hi! Thank you so very much for wishing me luck 🍀! I love ❤️ positive people! Also, thanks for the quick reply back. I’m “fan girling” over here 😄! This was probably the BEST way end MID-TERMS week 🙌🏻💉🧠🧬🩺!! (FYI I got all 💯) and I reviewed your videos on: Diff between A&P, Directional Terms, Body Cavities & Anatomical Terms. All your videos on Histology. Types of joints & Movement 💪🏻Terms. So, as you can see, I’m a HUGE fan! With that said, to answer your question; when studying the skeletal system I would’ve love to have seen a video from your perspective reviewing over all 206 bones and to see what awesome mnemonic you would come up with to remember me all 8 cranial bones and 14 facial bones and the rest of the skeleton bones remaining in the system including the axial skeleton and appendicular skeleton. 🦴 That’s so funny that you mentioned your cranial nerves video, because that is the next chapter that we are learning now that midterms are over! I actually already have that one saved and ready to start viewing this weekend 😂! Looking forward to watching that video along with all your others!( PLEASE DON’T EVER STOP 🙏) Thanks again for your reply, and can’t wait to keep learning from your AMAZING 🙌🏻 videos during my nursing school 🩺🧬💉🧠journey! Many Thanks, Brandice 😊
@ratchanokthamdee1577
@ratchanokthamdee1577 Год назад
Thank you for the video! For me personally, I kinda think that the core muscles have 2 important jobs. 1. Postural control (like you said stabilize the spine&support limb movement) 2.help with the breathing. When the core muscles work more as a stabilizer(for example during upright position against the gravity with the gross movement) then they will help less in breathing and vice versa. And like you said there are global and local muscles which global muscles help with the gross movement but local muscles help to stabilize the spine, control the posture and help the global muscles work effectively. That's why when you want to strengthen the local core stabilizer you should do it more in a static+endurance training way otherwise the global muscles will take advantage of that training. Plus it will give you even better effect if you also apply breathing exercise when you do core muscles strengthening exercises.
@melt7891
@melt7891 3 года назад
Great work, thanks. May I ask if you know of treatments for fascia pain that really works.
@NoName-xm1ej
@NoName-xm1ej 3 года назад
Pizza is not a vegetable School system PizZa iS nOt A VeGetAblE
@crabcakes21
@crabcakes21 3 года назад
I hope your channel keeps growing! You’re awesome for educating the world on how the body works! 💪
@Corporis
@Corporis 3 года назад
I appreciate that!
@jakeherb45
@jakeherb45 3 года назад
Good muscles for bmx!! Killin it pat!
@yacinehammar1301
@yacinehammar1301 2 года назад
Thanks a lot .
@connorbetancourt5605
@connorbetancourt5605 2 года назад
So If I define core strength as an athletic ability to twist in the air with stability good ROM no pain strength and speed then what should I workout? I feel like twisting motions would be good High endurance (low weight) and low endurance (High weight) Would be good also Quick concentric Movements would be good as well as slow ones and stability planks and side planks would be. For back I feel as if back hyper extension workouts would be good along with a twisting motion. It's hard as an athlete to find good core workouts to do because as he said in the video it's hard to know what your working and how to judge if it's working.
@williambrown961
@williambrown961 3 года назад
U da man Pat! Miss da woodward dayz
@coachbax1754
@coachbax1754 8 месяцев назад
Rectus abdominis, external and internal oblique eccentrically decelerates spinal extension, rotation and lateral flexion as an integrated function. However, Their isolated function is different from one and another abs roll out, side plank, hanging leg raises, abs machine contralateral, ipsilateral, and rotation exercise is how we build their integrated and isolated function (strength) 🧐
@archiethomas7985
@archiethomas7985 3 года назад
Ready for the next video!
@Corporis
@Corporis 3 года назад
I'm working on it! I filmed a bunch yesterday and need to find time to edit them
@brissa94
@brissa94 2 года назад
Hello, it seems to me that the video focuses on the lower back: all the muscles seem shown in the animations don't go all the way up the spine. Is there a reason for this?
@TazTheGiant
@TazTheGiant 2 года назад
So what exercise should we do yo "improve" our core and protecting the spine
@sidrens5292
@sidrens5292 2 года назад
On my degree we learned three groups - local stabilisers (TVA, Multifidis, diaphragm and pelvic floor); global stabilisers (rotator cuff, internal obliques, QL etc…); global mobilisers (Rectus abs, quadriceps, pectorals etc..) easy!
@jonathanlochridge9462
@jonathanlochridge9462 6 месяцев назад
So do stuff like planks actually strengthen the core? It seems like what you said that it might effect the movement muscles in an isometric range. I know the quads also are engaded as parts of planks as a rule. Although, maybe they actively strengthen or at least improve the endurance of the stabilizing non-movement muscles as well? Although, perhaps the not-moving resistance inherently utilizes the stability muscles more. I guess general core isometrics are still generally effective. But that having the surfaces be unstable has extension but not flexion benefits? That makes me wonder if slowly adding weights to isometric core exercises would be an effective way to increase core strength?
@ethankrueger8744
@ethankrueger8744 Год назад
I HAVE A GOOD QUESTION. Ima dummy but Is ur safe to assume your primary core flexes when you throw up or regurgitate??
@dreamchef_13
@dreamchef_13 11 месяцев назад
What exercises do you recommend?
@monnoo8221
@monnoo8221 2 месяца назад
Thanks for the good explanation of the puzzle. From the mixed perspective of a data scientist and flexibility trainer I always find those studies kind of dumb. There obviously is the miracle of our body, with its complexity, meaning multi-faceted, highly versatile, moving thing, across several levels of integration, all intricately linked and woven together... and then some reductionist positivist coming along trying to reflect that in a single number measured in a single capacity. This being said, I know that it would be possible to do otherwise, because there are enough empirical concepts laying around for decades, that would allow to integrate those many dimensions.
@RBmusic2000
@RBmusic2000 2 года назад
my belief in what a core muscle is would be defined by a muscle that we cant contract easily in isolation, but is yet one of the most supportive & most important muscle of the spine. If we can single out a muscle for isolated movement then i wouldn't think this is key to the core. All muscles would be classified as the core otherwise. Im no pro though, so what do i know. Just my view.
@SteveWKk
@SteveWKk 3 года назад
Great video Patrick :) Love learning about the body..... Question for you.......In the Military I was in a vehicle collision 10 years ago and fractured my L1 vertebrae.( burst fracture) It healed normally, but ever since I've suffered bad low back pain.......the muscles surrounding the injury are chronically Weak. I'm healthy....lean......but I cannot get past the weak low back no matter how much I exercise ;/ Is this just to be expected? Any thoughts? I can't sit for too long......can't stand too long before it gets bad. Lost my career over it. Side note and request...? I also have chronic Ischial Tuberosity Bursitis and for 10 years it has never gone away. I injections to help but theres no surgery or anything to help. It was misdiagnosed as sciatica for years. I'd love a video about it! Cheers dude
@Corporis
@Corporis 3 года назад
I wish I could help you out, but I'm not qualified to answer your question.
@davidm5981
@davidm5981 2 года назад
Damn man, I'm so sorry to hear about this, but really glad to hear it healed ok. Hopefully the VA can still help with PT and/or other treatments. I know it varies from one VA to another, but I hope it gets taken care of either way. I'm just a Corpsman in PTA school, but I know burst fractures can be brutal. Take care of yourself Steve - wish you the best.
@annettecuke7523
@annettecuke7523 2 года назад
excellent information; but do a video on exercises to do to strengthen and stabilize the global and local core muscles. Thanks
@roneducator
@roneducator 9 месяцев назад
There is no CORE!
@jamies4861
@jamies4861 Год назад
I had lower back pain and saw many many doctors and pain pills. I'm now doing Pilates with 2kg leg weights straps. I've had no back pain since I've been doing this, now 5 years
@twentyonetortas5921
@twentyonetortas5921 Год назад
1:54 Since there are core muscles stabilizing the spine, hip, and pelvis are there ways to train them for athleticism, fitness, health improvements, functional stuff, and other specific goals just like how people train the more known core muscles (the TA, rectus abdominus, both kinds of obliques, serratus anterior, multifidus, and the ligaments and tissues connected to those muscles that make that well known V-line cut you see at the bottom of one's torso)? If there are ways to train the core muscles dealing with the spine, hip, and pelvis, how with vs without any equipment? And since those muscles move and/or stabilize the spine, how do you increase stamina AND endurance (I know they're both two different things and that there are more than one for each so as one of my goals, I want ALL KINDS of stamina AND endurance that I can get! I want endless energy and I want my limits to be non-existent or if I can't have that, then at least have my limits be farther to reach than all the planets out there in space. I wanna go apeshit and aggressive for an eternity before even needing a break let alone being tired enough to end it) for all core muscles, especially the ones I was asking about for spine, hip, and pelvis AND the more known ones I was talking about that were listed in the parenthesis?
@vinotwotimes7983
@vinotwotimes7983 Год назад
🔥🔥
@anac4950
@anac4950 2 года назад
As a Pilates freak I love this!
@monsieurLDN
@monsieurLDN Год назад
Love what?
@sajjjadahmed5977
@sajjjadahmed5977 3 года назад
Salute sir
@chi_archiearchaumbauldt7734
@chi_archiearchaumbauldt7734 3 года назад
Ooooh I was here for JESSICA Alba T A, the Linea Alba is okay for the TA and erectus too, tho
@Corporis
@Corporis 3 года назад
haha! I feel like that's the classic mnemonic for remembering the Linea Alba.
@anindachatterjee1825
@anindachatterjee1825 3 месяца назад
How do i strengthen all of them
@sonlady
@sonlady Год назад
Could you help lead us in a direction of where to find a well educated individual that could help us do good core exercises? I'm not sure who to trust but I appreciate what you've shared which is why I ask.
@ptrainingbytim
@ptrainingbytim 11 месяцев назад
Pilates understand the “core” the best imo.
@fatimahsaleem1028
@fatimahsaleem1028 6 месяцев назад
I am confusing bit,the video is clear but the English used in it is a bit advanced But I think that this final conclusion is:do not focus only on either stability nor mobility,but both!to get the best results and take care of your body because you wanna stay healthy rather than making a show🏃‍♀️am I right?
@radishwhite7834
@radishwhite7834 3 года назад
Hi, i suffer from muscle wasting from unnecessary extended period of fasting. What core exercise do i start with? Thanks
@89wings44
@89wings44 2 года назад
hello same here, have you found any solutions
@radishwhite7834
@radishwhite7834 Год назад
@@89wings44 hey man, i did the carnivore diet and found improvement. But its not the keto that helped, its the high-protein. Im off it now but still eat high-protein. Same benefits. Fasting must have catabolised our muscles. It makes sense now to try anabolic strategies. High-protein is one. Godspeed bro
@binaryglitch64
@binaryglitch64 3 года назад
I was just trying to figure out wich muscles constitute 'the core'... and clicked on this thinking it's not gonna give me any more of a clear list of muscles than any of the other videos oh, man am I glad I clicked... mistry solved... at least now I know why I can't get a clear answer, because even the experts can't agree on the list. I can live with that... now I need to figure out why I want to know about the core... 3 reasons I guess... maybe I'll need 3 slightly definitions... back pain prevention, so one definition is the most important muscles for staying erect for 14 to 18 hours without wearing out the lower back, and 2 is making exercising everything else easier, and 3 is increasing athletic ability... so the muscles involved in those respectively... so maybe in order to differentiate between them I could call the three; stability core strength, ability core strength, and athletic core strength, or something to that effect.. perhaps I'll have a better idea after more research.
@funkylc
@funkylc 3 года назад
What about the Psoas' role in core strength and stability??
@roneducator
@roneducator 9 месяцев назад
There is no CORE!
@Limbaugh_
@Limbaugh_ 2 года назад
Abs are cool and all but damn I’ll do anything to prevent back pain
@medicalbiochemistry_
@medicalbiochemistry_ 3 года назад
👍👍
@allaboutcars8702
@allaboutcars8702 3 месяца назад
Where are the best exercises?
@giuliafranceschini3848
@giuliafranceschini3848 3 года назад
Me at the gym when the trainer says its core time but im tired
@lewismcelroy6946
@lewismcelroy6946 3 года назад
Going to hit core every day.
@sriyoga
@sriyoga 3 года назад
Dear Patrick I am ravi from India. can you tell us/chow us how the core muscles (local ,global...allt ypes ) moves against the respective body movement. that would more profound for us to understand the core easily, rather than just know the name. my suggestion. regards
@RBmusic2000
@RBmusic2000 2 года назад
core must be centred. Lumber spine area, and deeper muscles in that area
@MaSx94
@MaSx94 3 года назад
..Link in the dooblidoo.. Do you happen to play DnD?
@Corporis
@Corporis 3 года назад
I do not! I got "dooblidoo" from the Vlogbrothers and Nerdfighteria community
@levernepalacious7844
@levernepalacious7844 2 года назад
QUE?
@Dizzy_N
@Dizzy_N 11 месяцев назад
So it depends on the individual. Then how do you test which exercises that individual needs the most to address their specific weakness? since you shootin down all the other guys who are on about the transverse abdominis and the erector spinae!
@b-sideplank
@b-sideplank 2 года назад
what is the paradox?
@Corporis
@Corporis 2 года назад
It is impossible to directly measure the strength of muscles that are universally recognized as The Core (like the TA or multifidus). The other muscles that lend themselves to easy strength evaluation (rectus abd., erector spinae group) measure movement of the spine, and can't evaluate muscles whose functions include stabilization
@b-sideplank
@b-sideplank 2 года назад
@@Corporis i hope the comment didn't come off as dismissive. this is a very beautifully made video. on the topic, for practical purposes we seem to have very functional understanding - at least effective - as to how to strengthen the core. so, I gues, academically there are gray areas certainly, but for fitness purposes the current best practices are very effective.
@emligoop
@emligoop 3 года назад
This question drives me batty
@mike90susanoo84
@mike90susanoo84 9 месяцев назад
Strong core >>>> 6 pack abs
@HAMZA.MBCHB4
@HAMZA.MBCHB4 3 года назад
Hey give me a heart please add extra myocardial infraction Some salt (pda) With diet coka cola
@HAMZA.MBCHB4
@HAMZA.MBCHB4 3 года назад
@S C medicine stuff you won't understand
@Z-A-C
@Z-A-C Год назад
A strong core means a more straight body. Good back posture. Doing ab exercises with your back parallel to the ground is very helpful.
@roneducator
@roneducator 9 месяцев назад
There is no CORE!
@ambulocetusnatans
@ambulocetusnatans 3 года назад
I hear some people talking about developing the Fascia for increased strength. Is this pseudoscience? It kind of sounds like it to me.
@unapatton1978
@unapatton1978 3 года назад
It is. Fascia does not do well when loaded with mechanical forces. It can adapt when forced to do so over time. As a practitioner to remedy that is hard, time consuming and painful.
@ambulocetusnatans
@ambulocetusnatans 3 года назад
@@unapatton1978 Thanks for your reply. That is what I suspected. I practice Tai Chi, and some people in the community try to justify the belief in "Chi Power" by making up excuses that sound scientific. Since nobody has shown any kind of energy in the accupuncture meridians, they try to explain it as metaphor for the Fascia.
@Sebastian-ue4qs
@Sebastian-ue4qs Год назад
🐠
@suhailagha8270
@suhailagha8270 3 года назад
Which powerlifter have you seen that doing a split jerk? Weightlifters do split jerks. Powerlifters squat, deadlift and bench press. And neither of these two strength and power sporting athletes will EVER do any of their lifts on a balance trainer. EVER. It's nice to see you try to bridge the gap between regular people and athletes. But PT's don't have a slightest clue as to what these strength and power athletes actually do and how they train.
@Corporis
@Corporis 3 года назад
Admittedly I don't know that sport well. I hope it doesn't seem like I'm talking smack on powerlifters! The one lifter (weight lifter, power lifter, bro dude guy at the gym?) was being dangerous and clearly an experienced lifter would never do that. Thanks for chiming in to bring some perspective to the comments section. I appreciate it.
@Phreemunny
@Phreemunny 3 года назад
Suhail Agha -I’m sorry but I can’t disagree with you more. Sure; there are PTs who are clueless about Powerlifters and weightlifters, because they don’t specialize in those fields, but people like Kelly Staret would disagree with you. There are plenty of PTs with various strength and conditioning certifications who are more than qualified to rehab and train strength and power athletes
@suhailagha8270
@suhailagha8270 3 года назад
@@Phreemunny We'll have to agree to disagree then, as unfortunately that is not the norm. The example provided in the video was that of a weightlifting exercise done on a balance trainer. The powerlifts are different from the ones done in weightlifting. Powerlifting is a common misnomer, as powerlifters aim to display strength, while the weightlifters aim to display power. They have to in order for their lifts to move the way they do. It's things like this that show the great divide between physiotherapists and strength and conditioning coaches. A strength and conditioning intern would know the difference between these two disciplines. That is why it is important for physiotherapists to earn strength training certifications (and actually be able to display that strength, as strength is a trainable skill) and it is equally important for strength and conditioning coaches to learn basic anatomy, physiology and biomechanics. But the world is not ideal. And there will always be a great divide, except for a few key individuals.
@suhailagha8270
@suhailagha8270 3 года назад
@@Corporis It doesn't seem like you're talking smack at all, it seems like you don't know the difference. I am a subscriber to your channel because I enjoy your content. So keep up the good work otherwise. :)
@Phreemunny
@Phreemunny 3 года назад
Suhail Agha -LoL! You make it sound like there are just a few PTs out there with CSCS (or similar) certifications, or that no PTs workout/participate in power or weight lifting. There are a good number of PTs here in the US who have these certifications, and most PTs I know are athletic. I’m not even a PT (I am an OT who works with PTs) and I know the difference between power lifters and weight lifters. And any PT with an ounce of sense is going to ask an athlete what lifts they are concerned about performing. While I would agree that most PTs coming straight out of school are not well equipped for these populations, a therapist with one of the better strength and conditioning certifications is going to be superior to a strength and conditioning coach.
@TheFVSousa
@TheFVSousa 3 года назад
Patrick, marry me?
@Nemishan360
@Nemishan360 4 месяца назад
No he's mine 😂
@mdptg1990
@mdptg1990 Год назад
I hate these educational videos with 0 solutions at the end. Only come off this more confused about how to strengthen my core.
@Corporis
@Corporis Год назад
Sorry you feel that way. The goal of this video wasn't to offer advice, but to educate other anatomy learners about why defining the core is a tricky question.
@mdptg1990
@mdptg1990 Год назад
@@Corporis I understand
@madojani2256
@madojani2256 4 месяца назад
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