You thought it was going to be a pleasant video. Idea of children as not fully human: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8DruHmMXheg.html Sexuality in Medieval Japan: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Yl0m3pm5SCo.html Please consider supporting the channel =) 🔸PATREON (blog, art): www.patreon.com/Linfamy 🔸MEMBERSHIP: ru-vid.comjoin 🔸MERCH: teespring.com/stores/linfamy (shirts, stickers, phone cases, and more!) 🔸DONATE: www.paypal.me/Linfamy
Man your videos are fun there is one whole arc in the Gintama anime regarding courtesans having a baby in the Edo period's Yoshiwara near the Kabuki-cho and I loved that arc it showed what it meant to be a mother in those parts of the world
"some believed that killing your daughter was better than selling her to a brothel" if I'm being honest, id rather get punted as a newborn rather than work with STDs, abusive customers/bosses, being objectified and having a constant risk of pregnancy which is just an immense amount of pain as well as other issues like the multitude of diseases you can contract etc. life would be a misery and probably lead me to depression ngl
right? they did have a point. by selling your daughter to a brothel you'd sign her up for a life of abuse at the hands of the clients or the boss, sexually transmitted diseases, UTIs, unwanted pregnancies and most likely premature death. By unaliving a newborn you just...end their life at day one. Not saying infanticide is okay, but....
Ur right tho, the newborn has died and dont have to suffer in life as they grow up, but the daughter will, until she probably thinks that 'its just like any other day', dont mean anything bad.
This is the history I like the most. How day to day people lived their lives back then and in their cultures and the stuff no one likes to talk about specifically.
That's actually the "newer" focus of history nowadays, even the one taught at school. Daily lives of the common people, rather than how many thrones had a Habsburg on them. The latter is still pretty interesting to understand the geopolitical landscape of the time, though!
@@spooniesarah tbf, I like the idea of placing events in order on a timeline, but learning the exact year, and even worse month/day is a pain in the bum. Like, cool, Columbus discovered the Americas in 1492 (and look at scrub me, I don't even know the exact day, how horrendous!), but it matters because it ends the middle ages and starts the modern era, and the age of explorations/colonialism. Ooor you could simply remember it occured at the turn between the 15th and the 16th century. Solved.
Most of our time is spent sleeping, eating, shitting and posting comments on RU-vid videos (some of which, like Linfamy's, are quite amusing and entertaining - unlike using a hollowed out bovine horn as a preservative) which makes a comprehensive history of so-called average people pretty boring. History has a bias toward "big events" which often largely implicate "major actors" who almost always belong to the higher social classes of the period. And, yes, these said people also happen to be the ones writing about and discussing history. One thing is for certain, Linfamy's presentation style (which in some ways mirrors that of other humor-based RU-vid history channels) is far more interesting than a dry rendition of historical events. And also, history as a series of dates and names to be memorized is great for standardized testing.
@@horgh_japan Well, even though a lot of our time is spent eating, shitting, and sleeping; people in the past might have had different habits when it came to all these. Even moreso depending on what their social category and geographical location was, without even accounting for culture. That's a richer topic than you'd believe :P (as the horn condom can clearly show)
@@sissyrayself7508 I find rape always morally wrong, homicide wrong except in the case of self-defense or in a defensive war, war always wrong unless it is a well-thought through defensive war that does not engage in certain types of criminal warfare, and infanticide wrong in our society now here in America. But I can see how if I had a baby in a time of starvation, I would kill it to prevent it from suffering, prolonging its inevitable death. Or if someone were, say, a prostitute in Bangladesh, who if she had a girl baby, knew it was destined for a life of hunger, lack of education, and then child prostitution, and she did not see a way she could give the baby to someone who could help it, she would commit infanticide. So to me, it depends on the circumstances. No one in the U.S. should commit infanticide, unless it were truly extreme, remarkable circumstances.
@@KD-vb9hh I find all killing wrong. No exceptions. You can defend yourself without killing the other. And war is usually fought for someone else's ideals..for their bank accounts.
@@sissyrayself7508 Your Christian views are deluding you. Many religions see birth as personhood, not conception Not everyone is a brain dead christian
@@isawadelapradera6490 that's part of the reason why I'm not surprised it wasn't popular. Kinda takes away the, uh, sensation of the experience with the prostitute... makes much more sense as a sex toy
@Sarah Hluchy Client: This horn is not working for me let's ditch it. Prostitute: You are telling me. YOU ARE STABBING ME IN THE CROTCH WITH A HORN!!! You were going to have to ditch that before we went any further buddy.
My mother always wanted to run a brothel. She was a "working woman" on and off. I was rented out from 9 until I ran away at 15 and had to work on my own..."customers" were invariably older white men. I got out at 23 but just because a 54 year old bought me and my son (by then I'd been bought and sold a couple of times by owners...not my mom). I live in the US. I have one child that I had at 16. I have no idea who the father is...I hope people who watch this get angry about the girls, women, and boys forced to serve men because it's still happening all over the world. My son is an adult now and we are free.
Its disturbing to read on this thread so many who would rather kill a child than have it be a child prostitute. Its disturbing because I was one and I agree. I'd rather never have lived. Sent back to the spirit world is a much better option.
I'm glad you're free. Your incubator can go *fuck* herself. I refuse to refer to her as your mother. No sane parent does this to their kids. So she doesn't deserve that title.
Burning a moxa cone and placing it over an acupoint it is actually a method used in traditional chinese medicine, which was brought over to Japan and Korea.
@@tadakixd8571 acupoints aren't real things, for the record, no matter how much "traditional medicine" believes in them. It's just as bunk (if not more so) than trying to balance the humors.
Yeah honestly i'm really scared of pregnancy because of the body changes. It honestly ridiculous how some people say that you should just put the baby for adoption instead of abortion, like is just waiting and pushing
In much of Latin and Caribbean cultures, we use Rue plant. The plant induces abortions and menstruation. It is most often used to regulate periods, but from time to time it would be used as a form of morning after pill to avoid pregnancies or if too late to induce abortions. It had no complications, as it works with the natural body of a woman. For women who want to keep babies, they are warned to stay far away from this plant. Just the fumes it omits is enough to induce the menstruation cycle that would cause the body to naturally abort the baby. It is not a plant to mess around with. For everyone, including men, it helps with digestion and circulation issues. It is also used to improve vision. I just know it as something that helps regulating my menstruation cycles because hypothyroidism is a bitch and complicates things for any woman. I use to bleed once every two weeks or so, but Rue saved the day and made it easier to regulate and control the flow. I now have it only have it once a month for 6 days and even though it is heavier than usual. I rather deal with that than worrying when it will show up as it use to be unpredictable did whatever it wanted and show up whenever it wanted to, making living impossible. 😥I share this so that other women aren't alone and there is a manageable method to take back control of their cycles, and for male doctors to know there are alternative ways to save their female patients. Those hypothyroid meds are expensive, while a female Rue plant cost only $24 at a local Botanica store, and if well cared for have that plant for generations and massive quantity.
Ooh I forgot about Rue! I remembered that Mugwort and Myrrh are used similarly, and that frankincense helps with circulation as well as being a mild antidepressant, but completely forgot about the wonder plant Rue!
My grandma used to tell me similar stories. She was working as a ballet dancer and explained me that those DIY abortions were also common practices In Europe before pill was invented.
Yet another prove that people will find a way to not keep unwanted kids or make abortions legal or not. The best way about is make safe so people can make a choice clear headed and without panic.
this idea that the child is "half in the spirit world" is really interesting. in Hungarian a euphemism for abortion is "angel making" as people believed kids go to heaven directly and become angels.
Funny these comments are upset at people from hundreds of years ago. If you judged virtually anyone from the far past with modern standards, they'd all be murderous, bigoted, ignorant savages. And one day our future relatives will likely see us the same.
Did you know a cell is alive? Even a plant cell is alive, or a single bacteria. A rock is not alive. Don't use the word facts unless you are speaking scientifically@luciferia.1313
Killing newborns happened in Europe as well... unwed mothers risked a lot so they went to angel makers who quietly got rid of unwanted babies. In Sweden we have a whole song about flowers that can induced abortion...
I mean to be fair anyone can kill a baby it’s actually very easy as long as you’re an in human bastard. As has been proven by the fact that many men have killed their own children to or other people’s. He is talking about message used to kill children I don’t see why he is not qualified
I can see why it was considered worse to let a child grow and selling it. If you kill the baby, the soul will just be reborn and they will have a better chance at life somewhere else. If you let the kid grow and sell it, you are using another soul for your own personal gain and condemning it to what is most likely a bad life.
@@Sofiaode18 Death is final. You are no longer free because you no longer exist. Some say living a life no matter how bad is still better than being dead. Depends on a person though.
Many other cultures have considered children "spirits not fully of this world" until older. Infant death was common in the past. And they could just "slip away", back to where they came from. Becoming attached could be to painful.
to be fair: hearing all of this, i would have been happy if my mom decidet to send me back instead of handing me over to the brothel. So the guys saying that people selling their daughters to brothels are worse than those who kill them as babies MIGHT be on to something
@@sissyrayself7508 In an environment like that? No you would commit suicide no matter how lofty you think your ideals to be. You live in the luxury of a modern 1st world society.
@@MythicalNinja so you'd rather be raped daily, beaten, half starved and dying of syphilis by 20? Yeah I'd rather be dead, id also rather be dead than a vegetable too but I don't see people get bent about shape about that.
@@tareag993 Moo and I could not be any more clearly joking. You, on the other hand... I don't think you know what consciousness means. An unconscious baby would be a sleeping baby, but I'm pretty sure you're trying to refer to the lower cognitive functions and limited perception an infant possesses. A better word might be 'sentient' or 'sapient,' depending on what stage of mind you consider the child to have developed, or rather not developed at that point. Anyhow, this is part of a much larger argument, a much *much* larger argument that I absolutely do not want to get into, lest "they" appear. Why even bring it up? Well, I can't just let you go around claiming babies lack consciousness for months, you'll sound like a moron.
A pap shouldn't be painful. If it is, tell your gyno. I've never been penetrated by a horn but I'd assume that is supposed to be painful...so, I'd have to say 1000000% rather a pap.
I'm writing an essay on pregnancy in history for my German class and was just looking for more material. Thank you so much for the video! 🙏🏻 You helped me a lot without knowing it. 💙
"nothing deflated a customer's excitement like having the facade of erotic glamour be shattered by a swollen belly" me, remembering there are people out there with pregnancy fetish: 👁👄👁
I can imagine it’d be different for someone who regularly employs sex workers and risks getting them pregnant. If a sex worker was undressing in front of me and I was faced with the reminder I could theoretically have a few kids out there after fucking over some poor, abused teenage girl who is now a mother to my bastard child??? I’d be out of the mood immediately if I could get someone pregnant and employed a lot of sex workers.
With all those child deaths being common in those times, it's not suprising that people would think that kids are not entirely in our world yet. It's the same same with slavic ceremony of hair-cutting at the age of 7, when child was given a name for the first time. Before it was just 'a kid'.
@@electroandcake6658 Well, the whole first hair cutting was a pagan tradition, unused for hundreds of years, at least in Poland... Popular legend about the founder of the Piast dynasty have mentioned this ceremony about his son, Ziemowit. Although now that I look you may be right, some say that they named the child, just not by proper name, that one came after he was 7 and got a buzz cut :)
Thanks for not shying away from the grim reality of history Linfamy. Infanticide has been practiced by many cultures throughout history. Like prostitution and slavery it's a reality of history.
Honestly I don't really see the problem with it. In the same way that it doesn't make much sense to consider a fetus a person (in the philosophical sense), it doesn't make much sense to consider a newborn a person either. We regularly kill and eat living things with more intelligence and introspection. There's a reason why if a mother kills her newborn, we are more concerned about her state of mind and mental health, whereas if she kills her twelve-year-old, our thoughts go immediately to the child and we are horrified by the mother's actions. Killing newborns feels wrong because they are cute and we are evolutionarily programmed not to want to do it, but from a moral standpoint, it's not so bad. It's not nearly as bad as killing an adult, anyway.
@@William1w1You got it all wrong, from an evolutionary standpoint, it is not morally wrong, from a moral stand point it is incredibly wrong, unless there is a high risk of death in having your child then it is wrong to kill your baby. In a world created on accident by nothing, there is nothing that is objectively evil or good, only personal preference, rape is not wrong, murder of a child or an adult is not wrong, pedophilia is not wrong, sexual abuse isn’t wrong, that’s just the reality, think otherwise and your just being delusional. Morality is subjective and cultural in an evolutionary world.
@@William1w1 Murdering a child feels wrong because you’ve ended the life of an innocent human being, it would be much better to kill and adult then to kill a child whose done nothing wrong. Children can be cute, but in my opinion babies aren’t that cute looking. It’s fine I guess to value other creatures based off of cuteness, but if your putting the price of how much a humans life matters based off of how cute they are that’s kinda disgusting.💀
@@William1w1 Okay I was re-reading your comment and I just realized you said that you think most people are more concerned for the murderer when they kill a newborn then when the murderer were to kill a more grown child, what sort of backward morals do u have? The average person would see a newborn being murdered just as wrong as a 12 year old being murdered, the more I re-read your comment the more disturbed I’m getting what the hell r your moral standards?
@@thetiredworm2100 I think you should be more concerned about your judgment, perception and grammar. You’re pointing out opinionated flaws on William’s statement, without truly understanding what they’re saying. At the same time, you’re creating a facade of a neutral stance and open-mindedness, but it’s quite obvious what your bias is. I suggest you reread and comprehend their thoughts/perspective before you force your bias.
I expected drinking some herbs, getting tied up and treated like a heavy bag, ad if all else fails drown it before it screams... In central Europe, drowning or abandoning babies in woods full of wolves and pigs was the traditional route. There are a few stories of kids that survived and lived in the woods as feral children...
Between being murdered at birth or being sold to prostitution, i would take the first in a heart beat. I would still think "thank you Mama, at least it was brief".
The idea of a baby's life being less than an adult one is much more common than people might think. Some think it had to do with how child mortality was way higher than nowadays, it was common that anyone have lost at least one sibling before adulthood, and to compesate people had way more children than now. You might even say is a coping mechanism at the sorrow from losing your own child, while other times is use as an excuse to do horrible acts to them, sometimes because of bad circunstances like poverty, others on purpose by pure evil motives.
You know, it wasn't until quite recently that infants were anesthetized for surgery. It was believed that babies didn't feel pain in the same way, and if they did, they wouldn't remember it. It's still happening today because this is still believed.
@@Melissa-wx4lu That's interesting. Horrible, but interesting. However, until fairly recently no one got anesthetized during surgery... my guess is part of the reason they didn't anesthetize babies during surgery was because children reaction to anesthesia differently than adults, and there were concerns about mis-measuring before they had the ability to continuously measure blood-pressure, brainwaves, and blood oxygen levels. Surgeons don't want to operate on a screaming baby, it's both distracting and EXTREMELY disturbing.
Considering all the abortions we have even nowadays, the idea that a baby's life is less than an adult one is sadly not only common back then, but also now.
I appreciate that you pointed out that attitudes towards abortions are usually more influenced by population and economic needs. If a country is in decline severely, it's usual for abortion laws to be stricter whereas a country with a problem of over-population, even if morally against abortion, is likely to have fewer regulations or at least, lesser punishments. Ultimately, we're animals and the urge to procreate is to continue to species, but if the species is not at risk, or our clan (i.e. family, national identity) isn't at risk... meh.
I'd say the existence of Russia pre soviet union/ bolshivek would disprove this, same with the counties that made up the eastern Roman empire/byzantine
For awhile I wondered why they didn't just use the calendar method. Then I remembered my mom. Until she gave birth, her cycles were not exactly predictable. Sure it was when she was 13 to 16, but then it kind of became irregular. There were three times when she went 100 days without a period and one time it was as long as three years, then 3 more on normal monthly cycles. It got to the point when she had me and went to the doctor to ask why she wasn't feeling well the conversation was comical. "Are you pregnant?" "I don't know" "Are you trying to get pregant?" "Yes" "when was the last time you had your period?" "Three months ago." "Don't you think you're pregnant?" "No, not really" Ok not every woman has extreme variations like this, but I'm guessing most deviate from the textbook 28 day neat cycle enough to make the calendar method imperfect.
Very similar story to mine. I didn't even suspect I was pregnant the first time until almost 4 1/2 months in because of how unstable and random my cycles are.
Also, your cycle usually is highly influenced by your nutrition and health. You think somebody who was starving would have a normal cycle? I don’t really think so
Right. Mine has always been very irregular, even before getting an IUD or going on the pill. I’ve bled for two months straight and I’ve gone a year and a half without spotting. It’s never a 28 day cycle and there is no pattern whatsoever. It’d be really nice to have a regular cycle.
Isn’t there a random fact where a lady saw giving birth as a kink and that’s how women started adapting giving birth laying down instead of squating? Sorry it just came to mind
"Certified techniques, seven days a week." And that kids, is why I subscribed to this man in under 2 minutes of watching his video for the first time in my life.
And why it was considered a lesser problem than "sending back" adults who were more tethered to the human world. Very interesting perspective to consider.
People often consider myths and folklore separate from history, but they're very much intertwined. This is an example of how superstitious beliefs have real world effects.
@@Linfamy there is a common theory here in the paranormal community that children are some how able to see spirits and other supernatural creatures that adults couldn't kinda like dogs and cats being able to see spirits. Most people supposedly grow out of this "sense". Would you be willing to do more episodes about ancient Japanese supernatural beliefs, I liked your videos on the Kappa and Kitsune
@@Linfamy But isn't it more like a superstitious belief having real world source not other way around? Infants have very weak immune system, they often died in the first year even if you cared for them. Or if a mother was malnurished she would lost her milk so infant also died. In all (absolutely all) ancient cultures death of the baby in the first years of life didn't have the same weight as death of an adult.
@@jameskosusnik1102 As one of the people who never grew out of being able to see spirits, and other supernatural creatures, its very much a real thing :P
I think the trouble is in looking at this from a modern perspective. Back in that period, there were no such things as Welfare or state-run Children's Homes, but there were such things as starvation or just lives of grinding poverty and misery in general. A good example I can readily think of is The Children's Crusade. Modern accounts say that Étienne of France and Nicholas of Germany, completely unaware of one another, led thousands of children from their respective countries on a mission to retake Jerusalem and peacefully convert the Muslims there to Christianity. In the modern accounts of Étienne and Nicholas, these missions failed and yet both groups were largely met with peace and allowed to return home after making it to Pisa, in the case of Étienne, and Marseilles in the case of Nicholas. One older account says that these groups made up of children were sold to merchants by the names of Hugh the Iron and William of Posqueres and then put on ships to Tunisia, where they were again sold into slavery. Another older account says that the boats these kids were put on by the two merchants sank at sea and all of the kids drowned. Basically, the sanitized modern versions of this story reflect our lives: soft, safe, sentimental and full of safety nets when it comes to things like unplanned pregnancies. Older accounts written around the period when this would have occurred (1212 AD,) reflect those times: hard, dangerous, completely practical and without regard or care for the lives of children who just amounted to being extra mouths to feed. It's easy to moralize from our safe, modern perspective, but people in this comments section very likely would have taken the same course of action as these H00k3rs, had they lived at that time and under the same circumstances. Up until quite recently, life was largely unfair and quite brief. Basically, people responded to the hard times by hardening their hearts. Edit: I gotta say it, Linfamy, you choose some controversial topics, and I really appreciate you doing that. Just please don't get into trouble with the pu$$1es who moderate RU-vid.
While largely true, I wouldn't say it was quite that simple. There have seemingly always been people with fairly modern morals, but how common they were and how much influence they carried varied a lot. And as for life being brief, that idea is largely a product of high child mortality skewing the numbers. In most societies, aside from times of plague or famine, if you made it past childhood you stood a good chance of living a fairly long life.
@@Ryodraco I agree with both of you guys but to add on - whether or not these people had modern morals couldn’t make up for the reality they were facing. Hardening ones heart is more about adapting to survive. It’s not inherently representative of what an individual wants, rather has to do. But it can so fully encompass a person that the adapted ruthlessness is indistinguishable from the persons identity. It’s human nature to care for one another as that’s how we keep our kind alive, but when you get down to it you put yourself first. (“You” meaning anyone.) Those are just biological instincts. A person who lives in such dire situations with such a limited view of things has the impression that to be that way is necessary, and in doing so puts others in unfair situations and/or influences others world view to be just as harsh. It’s a hard cycle to get out of. Idk if that makes sense, my point is just that I think most people inherently are good but our circumstances can make us bad, and it can seem like our coldness is who we are, rather than what we had to do which became a learned and habitual behavior.
The reason these woman were so scared of getting pregnant was because of the misogynistic abuse they would face which i heavily downplayed in this video and not even mentioned. The prostitutes' were sex slaves and even the men raping them, and even punters in the modern world hate being face with any evidence of woman being fully human and not a sex object.[ergo getting pregant] Same issue happens to day with some* men through fits when they see period products or breastfeeding but but are fine to look at porn. Even with contraception for men was invented men REFUSED to wear it because they didn't like they way it felt [many men still do,that why woman needed their own birth control. STD were spread rabbidly by men and the brothels which raped and trafficked woman were only shut down in Europe after *Men* who were the main carriers of STD got sick, and not because they were killing scores of woman..that didn't matter. The lower you status was being a sex SLAVE in japan, the less chances you had to reject a man. The woman would be killed or thrown out and seeing as a "ruined prodcut" if they were pregnant and woman with pregnancies outside of marriage regardless of it was rape or not could be murdered at worst [In Europe stone to dealt sometimes] or kicked out and left to fend for themselves to be raped worst outside of the human trafficking zone.Its literally called the red light district for FFS. Any woman who was unforuntantly to be their would be raped and sold and the woman on the "outside" whwere a lot more vulnerable then the ones inside though the whole area was a trafficking zone. Just like with miso_gynist that pretend the comfort woman sex S_L_A_V_E_S were fucking 'paid prostitutes'" nothing about this situation for these woman was of thier free will because that the laws men made. and OFC face almost no consequence. Its not a "moral issue" you fully ignore the situation and way woman were treated in the time periode.
@@Plaid_pants_panter I think I get where you're coming from, but aren't you conflating a lot of cultures and time periods? Not sure we can say the high class prostitutes were all simply sex slaves given how much influence and money some of them had at some points in Japanese history.
@@Ryodraco being a slave does not mean to be poor. There were and are many educated and influential slaves, i.e. in Greece. High class courtisans have made it there. But: being a slave means not to be free. No matter how popular in the district, you don't get out. Never.
It’s the system those women were in, they would knew what kind of life they could give or could not give for their child. And like what Linfamy said children were raised and trained to be entertainers, so what kind of life would those mothers give. That’s why they abort or kill the baby after birth because under their circumstances death was better at least at the time.
Yeah, but that assumes that in general parents (at least in the place and period) cared about the future quality of life of their children. Like planning and giving it some thought. I’d imagine that humans (even today) have different ways of viewing the responsibilities and desires that parenthood entails. Maybe it’s not universally“I have to help make my child’s life the best and happiest it can be”
@@yucol5661 I wouldn't blame them , if i knowingly brought in a child that had no chance of quality- of life I'd kill it too. I believing merciful euthanasia, babies with severe disabilities that would die a slow painful death sounds more cruel
@@serpentinewolf7085 don't entirely agree with that my husband was blind as a baby and he still can't see well but his vision improved with age . He can drive but learned the hard way when hes either exhausted or it's at night he shouldn't be behind the wheel . Its definitely a case by case bases .
@@dakotamabry1645 I still prefer the ol natural selection route. We haven’t done it in too long and it shows. At seven billion humans we can start again.
Unwanted newborns were often sent back by poor families during times of plague and famine. There are many stories of yokai that emerge from these practices.
Well that's has been a practice really everywhere in the world where crisis has struck, they either left the baby somewhere, drowned it, ate it or waited for it to just die on it's own. That's just how it always goes.
@@fardsyadshafie3021 Unfortunately, yes. When you have 6 other children under age 10 and you’re eating soil, rats & vermin, roots, and worms & insects, cannibalism doesn’t seem so bad. One less mouth to feed, one less fragile being to take care of. Those of us who always have edible, nutritious food to eat should feel very lucky because most of our ancestors didn’t have that luxury.
4:15 yep, pretty much. A man can impregnant a woman and leave, she is stuck with the child. This can lead to a loss of her finances and health. Reliable birth control methods are important!
Memo to self: should you ever go back in time, never incarnate in a Japanese sex worker: - smelly customers - STDs - drinking mercury on a regular basis
Tbh that’s also modern sex work is to a extent even now adays. I have been to Amsterdam and parts of japan the people that tend to go to the red light districts are interesting chracters to say the least.
@@daoistsaintmasterofthenasc6220 lets just say it’s a mix of what you expect to be there , fellas that are even worse then that and normal people. I’m sure you could google videos of red light districts but other then that it’s a see to believe kinda thing.
In Vietnam we also have a plant that was said to be used for abortion, it was called “Sauropus androgynus” (English name from Wiki, but in Vietnam we call it “rau ngót”). I actually dont know why it has such an effect on pregnancy, but I do know from real stories that women now and in the past have use this as a method for abortion. However it doesnt always work, a lot of the times the baby is alive, however they can still be very weak and fragile due to the effect of that vegetable. Of course its not like poison where you just take one dose and the deed is done, in order for it to “work” you would have to consume a huge amount of that vegetable during your whole pregnancy and *hope* that it works. Bonus: For normal people, eating the vegetable could be very good for your health, or you can just eat it cause it is pretty good.
I'm pro-choice (and have made the choice to not have children and have my tubes tied), but it's rather vicious to go a whole 9 months, deal with all the emotional and physical ups and downs of pregnancy, lose wages due to said pregnancy, make it through the rigors of giving birth...all to then have someone choke out the baby. Damn, Japan, you cutthroat! 😂
Post birth "contraception" and non attachment to a young child was not unique to Japan. Babies would ve been thrown away in Rome for example, mostly female ones hence missing daughters syndrome which...Still happens to this day. Some cultures place value on male child so usg is often used to get rid of daughters. Baby death rate was extremely high in the past compared to today too, so not developing attachment to a child was often a strategy for adults to cope with that.
@@daringcow yeah ikr it used to happen in my country in some parts .. And this is the reason why it is illegal to view the gender of the baby before birth (they would kill it if it was a girl)cause apparently female children were a burden ...And it still does in some places and families . It is an extremely gross practice . Imagine how hard it must be to be a girl in these parts .
Most pregnancies were likely terminated in the second half of pregnancy because most women didn’t know they were pregnant till then. It was a lot harder to figure out if you were pregnant back then. It’s not always just like turning off a light. A period going missing for a few months when you’re a busy woman won’t be noticed. Nausea all the time? Wont give it any mind. Putting on weight? That’s strange. Eventually you see it all together but in a time when there wasn’t a lot of understanding about how pregnancy even worked it was hard to be someone who could grow a whole person inside of you.
id say ending a newborn isnt worse than selling of a young child, as the newborn wouldnt have had much suffering as it would have died, whereas selling off a young child could mean 50+ years of suffering and trauma, and defenceless once the first people who you were sold off to were done with you
Glad you're going into some darker shit without glazing it over lmao. Reminds me of a twitter poem I saw a few weeks ago about recognizing the archaeological remains of a brothel and went something like "A pit of baby's bones A pit of newborn baby's bones Is how you recognize a brothel"
This video reminds me of the youkai named ubume, which are mostly spirits of women who have died in childbirth or from complications related to that. Ubume were thought to try to steal other women's children and rear them as her own, or if the ubume was a woman who died after giving birth to a surviving baby, she would carry the baby around. If you haven't already, please make a video on them. I've just started reading "The Summer of Ubume" by Kyougoku Natsuhiko, and the part I am at now (near the beginning), they're discussing about a woman who has apparently been pregnant for 20 months straight, and it doesn't seem to be a phantom pregnancy like with Mary I. I love it so far
You should check out the time period known as Present Day. Fun fact: You most definitely consume products made by slave labor (there may or may not be child slaves involved).
Me: not thinking about mercury Linfamy: "MERCURY, THERE WAS ALSO MERCURY" Me: stuck in a mental wormhole where I can't stop thinking about mercury and which bodily orifice it's going to go up next
Ah yes, the modern world where women are literally still sold and profited off of as well as children. Lol It was bad back then and actually probably worse today.
@@TheEndOfSummer2222 yeah. It's scary tho how much its happening and not just in poor countries. so many people are getting trafficked too and through rich countries and some of the of the richest most famous cities in the world. Ano we're probably in different countries but its more than likely we've all seen or passed by people who are living in those kinda situations and we wouldnt even of realised:(
Been a while, Lin! See you're still pounding out historical truths and fun facts! You've put out so many pounders now, you're infamous! Keep up the wonderful works!
Dude I got an advertisement for pampers while watching this video lmao But yeah, great content, I really like learning about the old eras and mythologies of Japan
Well, condoms have been a concept for a long time. But you have to remember, many natural materials are porous and making one time use products were just not worth it for how long it’d take to make it.
It shouldn’t. Abortion is an issue as old as humanity. Note how sending back the gift of the spirit world would be considered an insult by most people. As with most things, secular concerns will bend even basic logic, because bureaucrats need their whores!
I see you as an antidote to anyone who sugar coats and glamourises the sex trade, because you show all the actual details and consequences. I wasn't born before the Pill was legalised and made available in my country, but I have seen and studied history. It's easy to forget (or not even know in the first place) how often unprotected sex leads to pregnancy with complications, death in childbirth, and children that can't be cared for due to lack of money, and that any sex without reliable contraception is basically a gamble on the mother's health and life. And for their part, men (while I'm not saying they all do) can just walk away. Pretty grim. So thank you for treating it with delicacy and empathy and a reminder that this time was not our time. No handy 5-pack of condoms available.
Which make modern trend of gloryfying it somewhat hilarious and saddening. Apparently being a sex worker is an empowerment, control over your body and proud femenistic statement. From selling your own body as last resort we went to it being a badge of honor.
Mugwort is still used! But mostly to help induce labour these days, same as myrrh. Before "quickening", when the baby is first felt kicking, across many western and eastern cultures it was up to the woman if she wanted to "induce her cycle".
2:36 LMAO that determined Naruto type sperm got me hard😂😂😂 his never giving up nature saved him from dying.....well, that sperm was the child of prophecy after all..... LITERALLY 🤣🤣.
It surely is interesting to see how Edo Japan was less concerning over some "overcorrectly ethical" than Modern Japan (where they actually cover it up instead of addressing, but anyways, that's a whole new topic).
Why can't they be like modern Germany??? From what I heard (the comment section of Linfamy's Heian Hookers video), they have a law (either federal or local, I'm not certain) where they actually regulate prostitution, ie mandatory STD testing and use of protection
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 Hi German here, yes prostitution ist legal here, but it's far from the perfect solution one'd imagine it to be. Prostitution is a multi faceted enterprise with firms specializing in serving CEO level customers all the way down to the ones you find in the most shady areas of cities right next to junkie and hobo camps, and everything inbetween. Especially the latter ones usually mainly employ people from eastern europe etc. (economic migrants). There're even businesses that bring young girls (sometimes still underage) from economically weak countries to Germany for this specific reason (basically human trafficking). It's really not that easy to decide wether making prostitution legal is actually more beneficial to the well being of the people involved, especially with regards to the indigent part of the population.
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 It's because prostitution is straight up immoral and damaging to any society and I'm tired of pretending it's not. Simple as. Men were doing better things went we weren't hyper indulgent and addicted to constant sexual stimuli on a daily basis, and women were doing better things when they weren't doing the same while also being incentivized to publicly and consistently objectify themselves.
@4:05 lady on right: Hi, I'm here to adopt the baby Lady on left: Ah, sorry, we don't have a baby, we have this small middle aged man. Lady on right: Hmm, that isn't really what I am looking for. Lady on left: He's got some good dance moves... Lady of right: Oh, OK, go on then.
I think the highest category of women of this profession meaning the geisha , were treated with more respect and could not be manhandled as easily . All geishas strived to attain a 'danna' or permanent customer who was their protector and provider . Such men did not mind the birth of babies who were often treated as legitimate offspring .
I've never seen/read GoT, but that's an OLD joke. Englishman, Scotsman and Irishman walk into a pub and each get a pint that ends up having a fly in it. The Englishman demands a new pint, the Scotsman throws the fly out and drinks the pint, the Irishman picks up the fly shouting, "spit it out, thief". I'm not sure the original origin, but it at least predates GoT. Interesting that it was in there. Book or show?
0:12 "Getting pregnant was a pretty rude thing to do." Ara Ara, my apologies, I should have been more mindful and found a condom or a contraceptive that didn't exist until like 154 - 400 years later. My bad~!
I wonder how exactly they viewed a developing baby/fetus if not as humans, and since you mentioned not even children were viewed as full humans, now I’m really interested in their views of humanity.
I just love these videos, dealing with unwanted pregnancy among prostitutes in medieval Japan is not something I can ever say I've thought about! Now though I'm sat riveted, soaking up every word. Great how you can do that Linfamy, keep spreading the knowledge. Luv ya!
