The Curious Case of Flag Fall | FIDE World Blitz 2023

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In the sixth round, of the theFIDE World Blitz Championship 2023, GM Andrew Hong (2460) faced GM Yangyi Yu (2762). After the game concluded, Andrew appealed that his clock did not work properly resulting in a loss on time. Check the raw moments to see what happened.
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@ChessBaseIndiachannel 5 месяцев назад

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@alberttomasi1724 5 месяцев назад

This is golden ! Ju Wenjun coming to help as a translator, and Magnus laughing at the scene in the background xD

@Phresh170 5 месяцев назад

14:30 Ju Wenjun started speaking Mandarin to the arbiter, lol

@user-tz7ov9rz1i 5 месяцев назад

classic blunder

@tianledeng6179 5 месяцев назад

@@user-tz7ov9rz1i Yes, it can be really hard to switch sometimes, especially given that GM Hong was also speaking Chinese 🙂

@user-dw4dq1if1m 5 месяцев назад

Language gambit declined

@chesscomsupport8689 5 месяцев назад

For anyone interested, here's a rough translation/summary of the conversation between the two players at 9:20 (I can't provide a line by line translation because the audio is a bit unclear, especially when Hong speaks): In the beginning, Yu says there was at least one instance during the game where Hong used one hand to move the pieces and another to punch the clock (which is illegal). He says that when Hong did so, Yu did not complain. Yu then says, "I'm not going to say anything now; we'll see what the arbiter says. I never touched the clock." I can't quite make out Hong's response, but afterwards Yu says, "I didn't do anything; I didn't even touch the clock," and later, "Go talk to the arbiter about this. This is an issue with the clock; what does it have to do with me?" That's when Hong walks away.

@cw9282 5 месяцев назад

Hong was being a weasel trying to get out of a lost. He screwed up and tried to draw Yu into it but Yu has nothing to do with it.

@TheGrandmasterMan 5 месяцев назад

If a player is moving a piece with one hand and hitting the clock with the other, which is illegal, Yu should stop the clock and call the arbiter

@chesscomsupport8689 5 месяцев назад

@@TheGrandmasterMan My guess is Yu was confident he could win without going through that whole process, considering he was much higher rated than his opponent (and, of course, it turned out that was exactly the case).

@chelsiewei1232 5 месяцев назад

after yu said the thing about never touching the clock, hong said, "then what did you think happened".

@divyam9984 5 месяцев назад

Ju Wenjun is the real MVP

@hellostranger2012 5 месяцев назад

This Norway tv never fails to provide live interview on spot😂

@tonyjames1980 5 месяцев назад

All these guys are fierce competitions still they can talk and laugh with each other, this is amazing.

@cw9282 5 месяцев назад

Hong's being a weasel. He can't deal with the fact that he screwed up pressing the clock.

@fantasy8833 5 месяцев назад

Yeah they all laugh unless the drama is involving them

@RonaldoMoura 5 месяцев назад

My best guess is that happened the samething than in Carlsen x Holt. You can see it in the video "Why did Magnus Carlsen apologize to his opponent immediately after the game?" in this same channel.

@totalmonkeyspeed260 5 месяцев назад

Good call. Seems like poor clock design.

@18greens18fairways 5 месяцев назад

Yea that might just be what happened (@ 5 min. 30 sec. of the Carlsen apology video). Nice job Sherlock Holmes

@lucasmatsuoca 5 месяцев назад

Summary for what happened. Hong press the clock way to lightly on time trouble, which made the clock bounce back, (at one point on the video they even demonstrante this happening), and he lost on time. Hong was arguing that it was not his fault, and te arbiter were arguing that it was indeed his fault. I think it was Hong fault, it's unfortunate, but he lost, this is not a malfunction, just an unfortunate event, you need to fully press the button. Feels bad for Yu Yangyi, he was visibly frustrated, and he proceeded to perform poorly after this game.

@Very_Bad_Bishop 5 месяцев назад

Yu has reached the final goal of chess. to have the women's world champion work as his translator.

@thepsychosis973 5 месяцев назад

Magnus is there like a little kid just laghing at the drama, gotta love him dude

@jomelreataza7800 5 месяцев назад

magnus laughing at side i think he already know what happen to this scenario hehe

@yangwenli668 5 месяцев назад

This is why i love world rapid and blitz championship so much , these small incidents are so entertaining to watch

@tianledeng6179 5 месяцев назад

What happened at ~5:22 was probably what happened during the game as well. I have played with these clocks (I believe it's still the same version, at least the same brand) before, unfortunately it can bounce back when you press it lightly (more accurately, maybe staccato or leggieramente in musical terms). I had to press it back and actually eneded up gaining more time. I don't think there is a problem with this particular clock though.

@cw9282 5 месяцев назад

These are standard tournament clocks. As a GM, Hong has used these on countless occasions. He screwed up his press and somehow tried to weasel out of the loss by blaming the clock. What a guy...

@tianledeng6179 5 месяцев назад

I don't think he was trying to "weasel out of the loss". Clock bouncing back after you pressed it simply should not happen. He was naturally upset about the problem. Unfortunately, replacing the clocks with better ones is not a feasible option. Overall it was just an unfortunate accident and I agree with the appeal commitee's decision.

@cw9282 5 месяцев назад

@@tianledeng6179 Clock bouncing back happened because he pressed the middle instead of his end of the clock. User error. He's weaseling out of his own user error.

@tianledeng6179 5 месяцев назад

@@cw9282 Not true, have you watched what happened at ~5:22 (it is literally the opposite of what you described -- he pressed too far from the centre!)? Also have you used such DGT clocks before?

@cw9282 5 месяцев назад

@@tianledeng6179 Not true that it was a user error? Funny how 3 arbiters looked at the clock and found no malfunction with it and ruled against Hong. Also funny how through so many tournaments where this clock is used, only Hong claimed such a clock malfunction.

@Dohnr 5 месяцев назад

I find it so funny how everyone is gathering around the board. Even Magnus is there lol.

@VanceHelw 5 месяцев назад

Because this dispute has blown out of proportion and delayed the event, other players have arrived on time but they can't play.

@cw9282 5 месяцев назад

@@VanceHelw Can thank Hong for that. He was being such a brat who couldn't accept that he screwed up.

@TheAnimalWolverine 5 месяцев назад

11:40 bro was looking at him like he wanna fight him 😂

@cw9282 5 месяцев назад

That's Hong for yah... Yu had nothing to do with Hong pressing the clock. Hong just lost a lot of respect from the chess community which can see past his weaseling.

@mahendra_devalkar Месяц назад

He thinks he's IP man or something 🤷‍♂

@_s_l 5 месяцев назад

this affected young man so seriously that he lost four games straight after this.....he was on a 4 win streak before this

@YRMW1983 5 месяцев назад

Love this channel for all the juicy behind the scenes ☕️

@Lol-qy1dy 5 месяцев назад

🧃🧃🧃

@speed999-uj5kr 5 месяцев назад

🕳️🕳️🕳️

@clandeszipp4564 5 месяцев назад

Well put expression. I'll use it. "Juicy"

@shivasundar 5 месяцев назад

I agree. Sans video evidence, there is little else an arbiter can do. Liked Pragg's thinking; I wud look for witnesses in nearby boards - but yeah, most people see the game, n not clock. One other thing to consider is the DGT live game viewer, to see what happened. It usually records only movements of pieces on the board. And the "games broadcast" to see if the countdown timer shifted from one player to the other. The 360 camera idea - hmm - are we sure we can zoom into a particular "sector" of the video/freeze. This is critical. We are after all talking about noticing the clock from up above, let's say.

@harshitkumar562 5 месяцев назад

17:05 look at anish and vidit they look like two friends who are interested in gossips. So cute😂

@_s_l 5 месяцев назад

5:21 it was at this moment he knew....he fked up

@clandeszipp4564 5 месяцев назад

For the gentlemen -> 5:22 13:04 14:41 16:04

@saladman9610 5 месяцев назад

Man of culture 😂

@clandeszipp4564 5 месяцев назад

@@saladman9610 Thank you, sir. 🙂

@sethdhanson 3 месяца назад

That’s why I’m here haha

@illiminaty2 5 месяцев назад

this is how these chinese guys fight where as dubo and nepo givng their half points which now might make them lose their potential 1st point and draw in a comedy shows the true bond and how russians really are united

@stephlboy9086 4 месяца назад

They tested the clock and and it was completely fine.. If Hong pressed the clock and Yu didn't, then it just simply means that Hong didn't press it down properly. End of story. There was no need for that long delay lol.

@unfixablegop 5 месяцев назад

5:22 shows what must have happened. It's just that they can't agree on what that means. The player thinks he was cheated by the clock, the arbiter ("you just did it now") thinks it shows an error by the player.

@Ashutosh149 5 месяцев назад

magnus just laughing 😅 15:01

@TheTeksan 5 месяцев назад

@AnishGiriOfficial you need to come up with chessable course about how to press the clock now.

@Chesshomie24 5 месяцев назад

Idk why I like ju wenjun's appearance in this case

@evesolis6133 5 месяцев назад

when the 2 players talk they seem to be debating over if the clock was misfunctioning and Andrew proposed a rematch and Yu would like to defer to arbiter's decision on whether or not that's needed.

@ytflashgaming8095 5 месяцев назад

If and only yu ywangi was strong enough to prove his point, this problem was a matter of minutes. I mean the opponent tried his best by pressing the officials into believing him which delayed the outcome. Anyways it was interesting.

@cw9282 5 месяцев назад

Yu was being a gentlemen and gave his opponent time to argue his case. But Hong was being a bit of a brat by trying to draw Yu into it, and I could sense Yu's frustration given he has nothing to do with Hong messing up on pressing the clock.

@ck3908 5 месяцев назад

Obviously there is a language barrier for Yu as the complaint is done in English so its hard to fault him for not pressing his case stronger if that's even the case.

@IceCenders 4 месяца назад

I don't understand how this kind of drama can still happen even though there's like a bajillion cameras everywhere. Surely the simplest solution would be to always record a closeup of the clock and the chessboard to dispel any doubt about what ever happens during a match? It's just weird you have to ask eyewitnesses and deal with players testifying against each other...

@pranavgunjala2688 5 месяцев назад

Lmao Magnus at 13:10 😂

@joeyvirrosai3574 5 месяцев назад

Laughing at how ridiculous the situation is

@alumpy-acho112 5 месяцев назад

Hong was adamant to continuing playing from the position, but Yu said “if the arbiter says we should play then I play”, and Hong was visibly annoywd

@tonyjames1980 5 месяцев назад

Seems like Anish GIri has joined the Indian Gang

@tatbaz1 5 месяцев назад

Show the game video of what happened ?

@abhishekganesan245 5 месяцев назад

5:20 bro proves himself wrong, by showing exactly what happened. Later confirmed by Arjun!

@le6637 5 месяцев назад

These incidents are always the best at the rapid and blitz wc

@shashankdixit92 4 месяца назад

13:14 cameraman is man of culture

@chriszhang1660 4 месяца назад

Proof that Ju Wenjun is an angel

@evergrey4life955 5 месяцев назад

There is something wrong in the appeal because it states in the beginning „with a few MINUTES left“ which should obviously be seconds

@harshitkumar562 5 месяцев назад

17:17 look at somebody just the way anish looks at vidit 😂

@dreamscapemaestro3732 5 месяцев назад

Yu wanted to slap the spoiledism out of him.

@Very_Bad_Bishop 5 месяцев назад

also this is the obvious difference between a +2700 super grandmaster , winner of many tournaments & someone who has been in the top level of chess for a decade comparing to an unknown & fresh GM.

@unfixablegop 5 месяцев назад

They should go back to 3 second increments in the blitz. 2 seconds provokes unpleasant disputes about the clock and about sloppy piece placement. The players are actually good about it, and nobody complains when you get a sequence of bad piece placement, pressing the clock, adjusting the piece while the opponents time is running. But the crazy 2 second scramble really makes it undignified. Online it's more reasonable because you don't have these side effects, but otb it's just a bad idea.

@hydeist0666 11 дней назад

15:21 Magnus casually thinking "Yea nah, I could beat of these guys in a 30 seconds odds"

@cw9282 5 месяцев назад

Andrew seriously trying to blame the clock when he pressed it improperly? Lost all respect for the guy. If you screwed up, you own up to it and not blame an inanimate object to try to weasel out of a loss.

@trollf3 5 месяцев назад

really appreciate chessbase india for this video

@hellostranger2012 5 месяцев назад

13:11 Magnus laughing his 🍑 off. Ju wenjun world champion + translator

@user-tz7ov9rz1i 5 месяцев назад

DUDE, it's Ju Wenjun!

@hellostranger2012 5 месяцев назад

@@user-tz7ov9rz1i ya I messed up with the name but not the title.

@sehajdeepsingh7427 5 месяцев назад

19:37 Well, Anish did get his answer. Hong didn't have to pay the appeal fees after all.

@gffg387 5 месяцев назад

Yu Yangyi was pissed.

@bosnbruce5837 5 месяцев назад

I would be jumping 5 feet in the air if I was in his shoes.

@Viva-la-de-hs4ub 3 месяца назад

Obviously hong was acting like a lil bi....

@gffg387 3 месяца назад

@@Viva-la-de-hs4ub bi? Bisexual?

@Viva-la-de-hs4ub 3 месяца назад

@@gffg387 ye....ah.....

@chopinder 5 месяцев назад

Magnus is like " why are they still there?" 😂😂😂😂

@conics1894 5 месяцев назад

what's the use of all the cctvs if you cannot play it in slow motion then decide

@DivyanshAgarwal-vt7og 5 месяцев назад

Anish giri is officially indian 😂

@timbaldwin6283 5 месяцев назад

Not the machine; the operator.

@sabudanakhichdi4657 5 месяцев назад

After 22 minutes video, I am still confused who is Yu and who is Hong!! Is it just me?

@TimCastle-vo3jf 5 месяцев назад

Yes. 100%.

@sehajdeepsingh7427 5 месяцев назад

The one who claimed the appeal is Hong (Guy with white shirt) and the one with blue blazer was Yu.

@DiracRestricted 5 месяцев назад

Magnus be like: Mate in 77 moves. Why these guys are even argue?

@maciektrybuszewski9964 5 месяцев назад

Only ChessBase India makes videos from gameplay incidents.

@deathslayer5813 5 месяцев назад

Why did they call Ju Wenjun for translation when Andrew Wong can help the arbiter to translate what Yu Yangyi is saying?

@noblehelium3794 5 месяцев назад

It wouldn't be appropriate to have the opponent translate because he is not a neutral party.

@bardiche1989 5 месяцев назад

who is Andrew Wong? anyway it's probably because they need an independent party who is not invested in the outcome of the result

@user-cp6yr5vg1x 5 месяцев назад

what if andrew wong say the opposite of what yu yangvi say just for get a rematch or take a draw ?

@radjedi2010 5 месяцев назад

Arbiter: Tell Yu Yangyi if he says "no," then he admits he touched the clock and the game will restart. That will be an irreversible final decision. Andrew: Hey, the arbiter says if you say "no," you will get an upgraded hotel room. Yu Yangyi: No. Arbiter: Okay, restart the game. Yu Yangyi: WTF.

@deathslayer5813 5 месяцев назад

@@radjedi2010 😆

@LEO-yj6ln 4 месяца назад

Broooo even after an issue its so quite there 😂😭

@turdeaugottago114 5 месяцев назад

hey why dont you make a 20 minute video about a situation but be sure we cant hear a thing about the issue. that is a really really really good video...

@michaeloconnor6264 5 месяцев назад

Arbiters did not believe him

@insomnia20422 4 месяца назад

Arbiter: "Is there ANYONE, really literally ANYONE who could translate chinese to english here?" *Womens World Champion casually rolling in*

@insomnia20422 4 месяца назад

And Magnus laughing his ass off that the Womens World Champion has to come to help her male countrymate... 🤣🤣

@cdrbb 5 месяцев назад

Yeah DGT 3000 requires more force. You can't just tap it, you have to pretty much slam it

@shivanshuyadav7185 5 месяцев назад

14:43 that female journalist looks so pretty😍 ❤

@esheppshepard 5 месяцев назад

5:30 nice!

@harryh2185 5 месяцев назад

17:49 I wonder why the arbiters didn't ask for any eyewitnesses.

@Arctic_Knight 5 месяцев назад

Chess speaks for itself!

@purrpurr6618 3 месяца назад

now we know why the clock of wesley so was bloody😅

@ratloko 5 месяцев назад

Hong was a sore loser. You could tell from his demeanor that he knew he lost

@tixtoe 5 месяцев назад

5:30 who is she?

@zachp2120 5 месяцев назад

These are the real questions

@tccandler 5 месяцев назад

Answers are required for this most urgent matter!

@cris-yo1950 5 месяцев назад

She looks like the interviewer who interview Dubov in a different video.

@zachp2120 5 месяцев назад

@@cris-yo1950 is she single?

@shubhambhasin6908 5 месяцев назад

She is a South African chess player

@harryh2185 5 месяцев назад

9:14 Could someone who speaks Chinese kindly tell us what they are discussing? Thanks in advance.

@istruttoremike 5 месяцев назад

Why can't you check the move number in the DGT clock? It was a faster solution

@alumpy-acho112 5 месяцев назад

Because hong claimed clock malfunction. I don’t think you should check a supposedly malfunctioned clock to prove it’s not malfunctioning

@stuartatkins5425 5 месяцев назад

Why not video tape every match so that disagreements can be reviewed by the officials. How much would that cost?

@terminator6505 4 месяца назад

To much

@Ashutosh149 5 месяцев назад

Magnus discussig other position 18:04

@insomnia20422 4 месяца назад

5:18 he just proved the arbiters point that it was his fault because he didnt press the clock correctly XD

@JV-oc1qm 5 месяцев назад

The desperation!

@shyamrangapure8312 4 месяца назад

Gentlemen fret not, The name is "Charlize van Zyl"

@_YourTribalChief 14 дней назад

Magnus is enjoying the moment😂😂😂😂

@JoaoNeto-lw5ul 5 месяцев назад

Call the VAR

@iratemetsfan 5 месяцев назад

This gave me anxiety 😬

@altrfryd5859 5 месяцев назад

All of this was the clock's fault. Why no one gets it??

@toSirius 5 месяцев назад

Norwegian reporter team is everywhere at the same time...😂

@denischinese 5 месяцев назад

One little kid changed the whole tournament

@junksails814 5 месяцев назад

Clock made in China and assembled in US to allow remote control in case needed.

@activelivingchallenger4298 4 месяца назад

Tbh Magnus is acting like an asshole here. That player is probably embarrassed and would feel bad to see a video of Magnus laughing at this situation.

@Tooesi 5 месяцев назад

clock malfunction is unlucky

@timbaldwin6283 5 месяцев назад

Clock malfunction is unlikely. Perhaps the operator.

@shubhajitray8227 5 месяцев назад

Andrew Hong (2460) how he got GM title 😀

@epictech9158 5 месяцев назад

Tell me you know nothing about chess!

@jayaprakashs4412 4 месяца назад

Chua chong tong ju va cha dong thon jong bua hua ha... Only I hear this..

@JohnLorencePoyaoan-dt7kh 5 месяцев назад

Gusto ko yong chess favorite ko Po Ang chess

@ManishRawat-qz4nd 5 месяцев назад

Anish is trolling wildr outside wildr by quoting it everywhere

@flotreize3447 5 месяцев назад

Perfect example of how to catch everybody's attention and how lose your focus and your opponent's too...very childish and tricky behavior in my opinion...