The Dark Reality of Birth Defects in an Incestuous Cult (ft. Amanda Rae) 

Thank you to @holy_shihtzu for clarifying. I have missed so many comments on this video and I need to clarify myself. Neither I nor Amanda were clear in our wording about why Autism was part of the conversation and I take full responsibility for doing a poor job at explaining. I truly apologize if I have offended anyone and would never mean to harm or upset people who are neurodivergent OR spread misinformation. After looking into what can happen with small gene pools, I discovered that sometimes autism can be caused by recessive genes carried by both parents. I brought it up because the Kingston’s gene pool is more like a gene puddle and I wondered if the expression of said genes were more prevalent in their group. I did NOT intend to imply that autism or neurodivergence is a birth defect. I’m incredibly sorry for not being clear there. I also did not intend to imply that anyone with autism must be from inbreeding. If harm was caused due to my poor word choice and implications I’m truly sorry and will do better in the future. We frequently have on neurodivergent guests and celebrate their differences, while also bringing awareness to the fact that they tend to suffer more than others in Cults due to not being properly diagnosed and cult members not understanding their unique differences (as told to me by those who are neurodivergent). Again, I apologize and while I always do my best to create a caring, compassionate, diverse, inclusive and non judgmental space, I do make mistakes and I’m willing to correct them when I do. Thank you for understanding ❤

Disclaimer: Just because someone has autism, does not mean they are inbred. The causes of autism are currently unknown and in case anyone misunderstood, I just want to clarify for the audience that most of us autistics are not from families with inbreeding problems. Developmental disabilities in general can be elevated in families with inbreeding, but, most autistics are not from inbred families.

If they’re incapable of getting their relatives pregnant, WHY AREN’T THEY THINKING THAT MAYBE JESUS DOESN’T BLESS THIS BEHAVIOUR?!?!

The effects of one narcissistic, delusional man are so frightening

For whatever it may be worth, I think she meant that the autistic children were not being diagnosed or treated, not that it was caused by incest...

The part when they talk about the men being infertile brought me back to a scene in The Handmaids Tale when they figured out it was comander Waterford, which was the problem and not the women. It was the older men that were infertile, but they couldn't accept this, so they blamed the women.

Ya know you’re not doing it right when someone needs to tell you, “You might want to get rid of the corpse in your trunk.” 🤦🏻‍♀️

I can only imagine the degree of damage from multiple births. Unstitched grade 3 tearing, incontinence, extreme prolapse. No doubt this isn't even discussed amongst the woman (edit: let alone treated!)

Poor, poor little babies. Born to a life of struggle and pain for what? To satisfy some man’s ego.

I was raised in a faith healing cult in Indiana, and soooooooooooo many women and babies died during childbirth because if they dared to go to a doctor, they would be accused of not having enough faith in god, and who wants to admit that? It was crazy.

I saw my best friend’s grandmother die a slow, horribly painful death from uterine cancer because her husband was Christian scientist & refused to get her medical treatment. Not even a hysterectomy. And no pain med either. It was about 5 long years. I’ve hated her grandfather for that.

Amanda and her family should go to the IRS about this. Remember that it was tax law that eventually brought down Al Capone! The IRS would LOVE to recoup this kind of money.

The full family tree starting from the beginning of this group has to be absolutely crazy. I could'nt even imagine the looping in again and again to marry relatives and continuing to carry and amplify defects. Reminds me of the videos of royal families in history with so many issues due to the inter marrying.

18:50 - two old standby methods in cults, reducing food/water and reducing sleep. Your members will really feel moved by the spirit when they're sleep deprived and starving! Keeps folks super open to suggestion and control, too.

Over two decades ago, I read a fascinating medical research paper on "fumarase deficiency a/k/a polygamist down's syndrome". It mentioned the Kingstons by name, also mentioning the missing ears plus smaller than average head size. Never forgot it and that paper is what lead me to Amanda's channel. It's like the stories are from an eerie parallel dimension, something unbearably sinister and warped under the thinnest veneer of normality. Amanda's sense of humor is so genuinely inspiring, wonderful to see her & Shaliese together!

My husband worked in the hospital in St. George Utah, home of a big polyg community. He says there were a lot of infant mortalities, as well as birth defects from inbreeding. Rumors of home-birthed infants who die and went unreported. There is also a rumor of infanticide of those with severe birth defects. He told me that in some poly groups, one of the wives will train as a nurse in order to perform all home health care and midwifery. In male dominated sects, women do not have respect, equality, value, or autonomy. They are chattel, for breeding.

I am so fascinated by cults. Glad I found this channel. Speaking of extrocism’s and dehydration… I am a nurse. Once I had a patient whose body was constricted and would not leave this position, that was similar to a gargoyle position. That’s the only way I know how to describe it. She was completely zoned out and would just make sounds like a pterodactyl all day. I had her for a couple weeks on my shifts. Her significant other would come in and show pictures of her before and said she was a brilliant lady with 3 master degrees. He was so flabbergasted by her current condition. By the 2nd week that I had her it was like I went in there one day and something in her had just snapped, during the middle of my shift and she suddenly remembered who she was and could speak but she was SO confused about where she was. She didn’t know ANYTHING that had happened to her in the last couple weeks. It turns out she had developed sepsis and was also severely dehydrated. All of this had developed from a UTI. I just wonder how much of that happened in the old days and people thought someone was possessed. Sad. And crazy.

I worked at a child development center in Northern Wyoming. There were many children with unusual syndromes in the area. There was a large LDS community in the area and several offshoot groups. Lots of inbreeding over generations.

With all of this common knowledge about what goes on inside the order, why hasn’t child protective services been involved?

As a biologist if you're too closely related genetically you often won't get pregnant or will miscarry early it has to do with safety mechanisms our bodies have to describe it in the simplest terms. It also increases crossover mutations for whatever reason which means conditions like cystic fibrosis are more common as it's a single amino acid change

FYI - in the Muslim world, children and the elderly are not required to fast during Ramadan.

I would love to see someone try and draw a family tree of this group...

Autism is not connected to inbreeding. It does have a hereditary factor tho, so if autism runs in the family, incestuous or not, there is gonna be a higher percentage of people on the spectrum in that family. Like both of my parents are on the spectrum and I am as well, but there is no incest going on in our family tree. Also, there are mental disabilities that present a lot like autism (especially like the type that was formerly known as “Kanner’s Autism”, not so much what used to be called “Asperger Syndrome”) and those disorders can be caused by inbreeding. Without a professional diagnosis it’s pretty much impossible to say if it’s autism or something related to the inbreeding directly

I just did a quick Google search on Autism and inbreeding. This is a quote from one of the sites I looked at, “There is no definitive answer to this question as of yet.” That sums up every site I looked at. So little is known. The reason I'm commenting on this is someone out here is going to hear this interview, take it as gospel, and start saying Autistic people are inbred. I didn't want that to happen, and you know these people are out here, taking everything out of context. Ty for the interview, very enlightening. The more we learn, the better we are at prevention.

I was not brought up in a religious household, and my family is Jewish. The public at large has no idea that this kind of malicious cruelty is going on under the cover of Religious Freedom. What a travesty!

Cults fight to keep you in the darkness. My heart melted when Amanda wasn't sure if she could say sperm. ☺

Oof. The penile camcer thing was so feustrating. It's a very rare cancer, but one of the easiest to treat with highest remission rates, iirc. This is literally why we have doctors look at our bits!

I remember meeting a girl when I was a kid who had several moms and one dad all living under one roof in Jackson Michigan. They moved into the house next to mine and I met one of the daughters who was older then me. She told me they had just moved there from Utah and I remember being so confused on how she had three moms and so many siblings. Anyhow, I think about her all the time now because I remember her. We played togeather a lot and then one day they just disappeared. I remember her baby sister that was born with birth defects and when I asked her about what was wrong with her sister she started to tell me how bad her dad was and told me he was also her uncle or grandpa I’m not sure I don’t remember but I know he was her dad but also another connection to her- and that he had hammered nails through her hands. I was mortified when she told me that he had hammered her hands to a cross when he was angry with her. She showed me her hands and she had literally puncture wounds from this. I was only eight and also abused so I didn’t know I should tell someone. I wish I knew where she was- her name was either amber, Angie, or Ashley. She had blonde hair and blue eyes and her hair was in a bob. If this is you please comment- I just want to know this girl made it out okay. 😞

I was mainstream LDS for 45 years. Yes, we had to not eat or drink anything for two meals. I’m 60, and was pregnant six times. We were taught that even pregnant women we’re supposed to fast. Insane stuff.

the poor woman who had seizures after giving birth and losing her baby, i pray for you its caused by high blood pressure, ecclampsia, i had it during and after having my baby and i fully had to accept that i would maybe never meet my baby earthside, obviously after four days and countless blood transfusions and 30,000+in debt, im alive.

Hey Shelise, thank you for continuing to spread awareness! I think it would be great to follow this up with a little statement to clarify that autism has not been linked to inbreeding. There is so much stigma and misinformation surrounding being on the autistic spectrum, I feel like we should not add inbreeding to the list of falsy assigned causes :)

Break the silence. Break the cycle.

This is very sad! I’m so sorry you had to live with this in your life! I’m glad you were strong enough to leave and give your voice on this cult!

17:26 the “best” part about this is that you are expected to pay the church your fast offerings, which are supposed to be the dollar amount you would be spending to feed your family those two meals if you weren’t fasting. For some reason, no one talks about the fact that you’re not allowed to shop on Sundays anyway, so you wouldn’t be spending any additional money on food. You would be eating what you already have in the house. They act like it’s not a big deal because you’re just swapping buying food for fast offerings, but that’s not what’s happening. You wouldn’t be buying food regardless, but they still want you to “donate” that money.

It floors me that this is happening, the damage they are doing is beyond words. I can understand abusing government systems because working the system is literally part of American culture with our major corporations down to the individual, but to actively commit incest is abhorrent on another level. Purposefully being incestuous for multiple generations, who the heck are they buying off to get people to turn a blind eye to this?

Thank you for covering this topic. My heart goes out to everyone who has been exploited by one of these groups. It makes me so angry that this group defrauded the taxpayers out of money that was set aside for first time homebuyers. In the meantime what are they doing to contribute to our economy. Maybe they think that they are above everyone else so they don’t have to actually work.

If the woman whose baby died because the leader said don’t calm the cops, She had every classic sign of Ecclampsia siezures,vision changes and headaches. She’s lucky she didn’t die as well.

There have been issues with this among some isolated Amish communities and this is from marrying 3rd or 4th cousins so I can't imagine where people are marrying half siblings. Thank you for sharing this.

Let's give the hosts some grace in this discussion - Amanda is sharing her observations and what she has heard about what's going on in the Order. Bear in mind, she was only allowed to go to 2 years of public school! No one is trying to share misinformation here, just express observations about increased apparent birth defects and lack of modern healthcare. A major genetic disorder (fumarase deficiency) was found by doctors / geneticists to have increased prevalence in the FLDS due to inbreeding because recessive traits are more likely to be expressed. That said, since there is significant misinfo in general about Autism Spectrum Disorder - that is not caused necessarily by inbreeding, and she did not say it was. It is caused by a mix of a variety of genes and environmental factors. She said that no one would be diagnosed because they are not brought to doctors, much like women suffering from PPD (post-partum depression) or pre-eclampsia would not be taken, either.

I was too scared to go to the hospital to have my babies so I chose to have them at home with a doctor or a midwife, a real doctor and a real midwife. I always took my kids to the doctor or whatever they needed so please don't think I am a weird cultist, just a chicken fearing that my babies might get traded with other babies or maybe just plain stolen. I was also fearful of having the baby come while on our way to town to the hospital. I had very low risk births and plenty of prenatal care. This story just breaks my heart.

So many horrible things are happening in the name of religion. Patriarchy in general and toxic masculinity are perpetuating organizations like this. It’s so sad.

There's places here in the UK where a particular religion has an extremely high rate of cousin to cousin marriages. I'm those areas the rate of babies born with special needs of any kind are massively higher than in others. So much so that day 50 miles away is less than half. It's legal here to marry a cousin...my cousins are like siblings, so it's weird to me. We also have hypermobility and the accompanying effects of it. Myself and a female cousin have it most severly, if course 2 women can't make a baby, but ignoring biological facts, a baby would be extremely hypermobile, it would be an incredibly painful life, even walking, sitting and standing are painful and more difficult. I used to teach & we were partnered with a school in a nearby city. I'm that area culturally cousin marriages, particularly here in the UK are extremely common. The incidence of children with special needs was 8 times higher that our school. We call the list of children with SEN a special needs register, almost 50% of theirs were children that were related in some way. They all had the same surname except a few, their parents were close relatives and had a biological link. There's another city locally that has an even higher rate. Until a couple of years ago it was brushed under the carpet, no one wanted to ease in on 'a cultural difference ' The fact children were harmed was irrelevant, even now it's still not been properly addressed. Often the families will say it's their god's choice if a child is born with a disability, instead of accepting there's a real problem.

With our first baby me and my husband did all the testing we could, just to make sure we knew what to expect. It's actually quite interesting to know what genetic disorders you carry... we each had one (dormant in us), but since we don't share the same ones they can't be passed to the baby. I carry the gene for Wilson's disease, which is where your body can't process copper. Didn't even know that was a thing.

I have been following you both. You are doing important work. These things need to be exposed.

The wickedness of Brigham's polygamy is still causing terrible suffering even in our day.

You two are helping so many people by discussing these issues and bringing a light to this type of suffering so many people endure.

I havent had your types of experiences. However I do have chronic migraines and spend a lot of time in a hot bath in the dark listening to podcasts. Youve entertained/educated/distracted me thru many hours of migraines!

Incest & child abuse is against the law & yet these cults are never held accountable especially in this case with birth defects. Should the state have to pay for carers to take care of these people until their deaths? Someone has to provide answers

I grew up similar, my parents were leaders, but we were so integrated into the public as academics, doctors, social workers, police. It freaking sucked. I've been out for one year. Had to leave so many people behind. Thank you so much for sharing.

I’m autistic and my 3 kids are too. We’ve done full genetic investigation and two of my kids have multiple small genetic abnormalities. For sure these things would continue to increase and become more prevalent with inbreeding. And considering how prevalent it already is in my family I can’t even imagine.

Part of why I still pay attention to these stories, in several different media, because it gives me something to connect to, and a way to help, even if it's just giving people the words they need to describe their experiences.

2:09 I read that many polygamous communities get a rare genetic condition called fumarase deficiency. It's a rare disease that can cause acute retardation and severe physical problems depending on how severe it is in an individual born with that issue. The disease has struck these children because of a recessive gene that has been spread through decades of inbreeding. It's not only the Kingston group that deals with the disorder because most of the polygamous groups in Utah that are off shoots of the LDS have been "cross pollinating" so to speak for generations. Many of the fundamentalist Mormon groups have many family members that have been a part of other polygamous churches. Some of them are born and grow up in a fundamentalist community, and then later marry into a different polygamous group. For example Sam from the RU-vid channel "Growing Up In Polygamy" has family members that are part of the Centennial Park Fundamentalist Mormon Church because they broke offf from the Warren Jeffs FLDS group when the former prophet Rulon Jeffs died. If I'm not mistaken Sam's family also has family members that are in Canada that married into Winston Blackmore's Church, they were also once part of the FLDS with Warren Jeffs. They also broke away from the FLDS when Rulon Jeffs passed away ans Warren took over as prophet.

I guess these are the American Hapsburgs? I know they aren’t royals, but…damn.

Thank you to you both for your strength, truth and humor. You are both so strong and open. A true testament to honoring yourselves! 💜

absolutly adorable Amanda!! this is a topic i’ve been waiting to be covered!! we constantly hear about incest many are forced into with these groups, but rarely hear the full impact genetically. as Amanda said, these impacts are surfacing more and more with every generation, it’s so sad. you guys are doing *amazing* work to end and prevent it further by expressing the truth. much love and support as always!🖤🖤

How have they not been investigated and charged with tax evasion / fraud ?

As a person who has autism, I can tell you that even outside of a cult it is very hard to get a diagnosis. I was misdiagnosed until I was 19. I know a woman who was 26. I know people diagnosed in their 40's and 50's. Until the mid 2000's it wasn't really talked about and there wasn't a lot of research on woman with asd or how asd presents different in adults and children. Graduated highschool in 05 and I went to school for special education. They did one 45 min class period on autism for the entire 4 years I went to school. We learned it was rare and mostly presents in boys. We know so much more now, awareness is up and so is research, but that didn't do much to help those of us who grew up having asd and not having the correct support. It's a tough world when your neurodivergent. I can't imagine what people in the order go through because it has to be worse than what I went through and I wouldn't wish that on an enemy.

What kind of IVF Dr gives treatment to half siblings and uncle/niece couples?! This has to be illegal?

Wow this is really grim. I didn’t realize LDS was a cult and all this crazy and abusive stuff went on until listening to your channel. I thought polygamy wasn’t practiced anymore. Thank you for sharing your stories and getting the truth out

As an autistic person... it's not a birth defect. It's my superpower.

Lye is caustic drain cleaner, the also use it to make soap but then it has to be cured for more than six weeks to get the caustic acid out of it. That’s what lye is used for. But it will absolutely eat and burn skin if it comes in contact. It gets extremely hot when mixed with water

The refusing professional medical help or any outside help reminds me of an old religious joke: A religious man sees on the news that his town is about to be hit by dangerous flooding. He ignores it, thinking "god will save me." Then police come to his house and warn him that he needs to evacuate, but he refuses saying "god will save me." The storm comes through and waters rise until he has to climb up on his roof. Rescue crews come by with boats and helicopters, and he still refuses to go with them, saying "god will save me." He eventually gets swept away and drowns, and in the afterlife confronts god "why didn't you save me?!" God says "I sent you multiple warnings, boats, and helicopters, and you still didn't listen!" 🤦‍♀

French here , i love your channel . I studied at UCI for a year and lived in a host family who turned out to be LDS . They tried to get me to go to church with them but i made it clear i was raised Catholic and didnt want to change my faith ( spoiler : i was raised catholic but don't trust the bible ect , i thought it would be easier than explaning im Theist). I noticed some weird stuff (from MY perspective) and now that i discovered your channel i understand much more. My question regarding the Order : how come does the US gov know the existence and abuse (inbreed , tax frauds ect ..) and let them free ? I know the US is strong in free believe ect but this is clearly abuse and a danger to society. Thanks for enlighting me !

Excuse me, I have a question: How come, Ortel claims his bloodline is direct decending from Jesus? As far as I know, Jesus never had biological children! 🤥

Omg this triggered a memory my teenage bfs family were high intensity catholics they believed that they were not meant to have food on Sunday morning until they had taken communion. No wonder everyone wanted service over so quickly lol😂

I appreciate that you both are helping others get their stories out there to help people on the outside understand and be more tolerant of the people coming out of these groups.

❤❤❤thank you so much for this episode and all that you both do❤❤

The labor and delivery procedure is terrifying! My first child went into cardiac arrest as soon as the umbilical cord was cut due to several heart defects. We were in a hospital that had a fully functional NICU thankfully. But these stories are nauseatingly horrific! Thank you for sharing

Since when does autism have anything to do with inbreeding?

I am a Tax Preparer and have been curious about how they file. It was The First Time Homebuyers Credit, but it had to be paid back within 15 years. My biggest concern is how/ who is claiming all the benefits/credits for children. Earned Income Credit, Child Tax Credit, ect? They should all be in Jail.

Wow this is so sad to me because I’ve known a lot of this and nothing is ever done but BRAVO TO ALL WHOM GET OUT! And happy healing to each one of you

I love how expressive Amanda's eyes are.

I ended up giving birth a month early bc of preclampsia I had to get ultra sounds every week and got shots to help with babies lungs. I never knew what it was till the nurse explained to me that fluid w was building on my brain and organs and it could cause me to go into seizures and die as well as my child. I am forever thankful for whoever called 911 for this woman bc u need specific meds to monitor how much fluid your body is releasing with monitored fluid intake. I was placed on a catheter for 4 days I believe. I could only have so much drink every so hour I was thirsty but so grateful they helped save my life and my sweet girl born 4 pounds and 10 ounces she had no lung problems and didn't need the NICU! I can't imagine being helpless and them saying she's good again forever thankfu for the anonymous call made for this women it's bad enough she lost her baby. It isn't a game. Why do some men think birth is easy peasy no complications no anything! It's so much more than most men think and to force them into baby after baby with no choice is disgusting.

The amazing thing to me is that if you believe in God and you state God's will than how is it that modern medicine isn't God's will?? If you believe than you would think that modern medicine would be hailed as God's blessings in helping you heal. I was an apprentice midwife working with the Amish and at least the Amish we worked with listened to the midwife and when told they were not a candidate for home birth were sent to doctor and delivered in the hospital. I would never have survived if I gave birth at home I had too many complications I also had the rh factor and without rogam I would have lost subsequent babies. There's being ignorant but not seeking medical attention when it's available is beyond ignorant. They should be charged with manslaughter for forcing women to give birth w/o proper medical attention that results in the baby or mother dying . It should also be a felony to put a child through pain suffering when you refuse to take them to the ER to be stitched up or a bone set. Better yet sit the adult down and start sticking them with a needle and thread and see how many people it takes to hold them down! Not letting kids have pain relief by numbing area needing stitched or put out under general for broken bones should be ascribed as child abuse.

I’m so glad incest is punishable by big fines and jail in my state. This is outrageous

I'M AUTISTIC AND I'M NOT INBRED!!!!!!!!

Fasting creates an altered state of consciousness. So does lots of other physical deprivations, like sleep, water, or even audio and visual stimulation. Altered states can very easily be used by a manipulative person to cause harm.

Low sugar is deadly, low fat or no fat is starving the brain, dehydration can be deadly if it's bad enough. And any factor of those would include a phase where the person would be hallucinating. When it comes to birth defects, testing is always for some of the more common threats, but incest could bring out the non common things easily. If there is a defective dominant gene in the family and it is on the X chromosome, each kid would inherit that. One one the Y would just affect the male offspring.

Being brought up in a cult warps your sense of the world and reality. The control they have over every aspect of your life is unconceivable unless you have been there. I'm so glad Amanda is free and doing better in her life :)

You ladies are so strong. Glad you left your oppressors. ❤️ If you have recessive genes for a disease and you marry someone with the same the disease will present. They need to be turned in to IRS.

Sharing this with patience & love,ñ to spread awareness, not slinging vitriol: Autism is a not an illness or birth defect. We’ve been in the gene pool for at the very least 10 thousand years. Neurodivergence is part of the natural diversity of humanity. If you’re thinking of things like learning disabilities or other developmental disabilities, those tend to occur at the same rate in the autistic population as in the non-autistic population actually. ✌️

There is a RU-vid channel called soft white underbelly that follows an inbred family from Appalachia as one of it’s series. There are other places that practice inbreeding that aren’t for religious reasons. It seems to be from lack of education, and segregation from society. Basically what the order is doing. I’m so glad you got out!

Wow this is SO interesting!!!! Please keep making more episodes!

👏 Great collaboration; I'm a subscriber of both of you

There’s a similar problem in the large, insular Muslim Pakistani population that live in closed communities in the UK.

This is some sick Targaryen sh*t

I love Amanda Rae. She is a hero.

Great update. Its crazy seeing these gen 3 mormons vloggers out there documenting their infertility journeys

Hellooo!! I have been binge watching ur channel today I’m so happy ❤🎉

Cheetah populations have become so isolated in pockets that all of them are identical. I saw a microscope slide of a sample of their sperm and the poor things were swimming in circles, literally chasing their tails, so how could they possibly reach the egg? Be interesting to see if the infertile men in this lady’s family have the same issue.

This is the first time I've heard of this cult. Brothers and sisters marrying? Can't law enforcement do something to stop this.

The LDS church in the NL where I grew up it was 24 hours of fasting 1 day... but you could do it in a way it was more or less 2 meals you skipped. Have an early big lunch/meal, skip dinner, sleep, skip breakfast and have a later lunch and dinner the next day.

21:29 Duct tape works for closing wounds. After they’re properly cleaned of course. 😊 Just like butterfly bandages. Many years ago a neighbor used that for his son because they had no money for the doctor. It worked!

Also, why aren’t these members up against at least some RICO charges if there are so many ex members talking about the illegal activities?

Thank you for the content. I did want to share that several of the items you are guessing about are researchable. Good luck and thanks again for the content.

You two are a viewers dream team 💜🦋🦋💜

*Regarding religion fueling/causing mental disorders:* Jeanette McCurdy (the former child actress on shows like _iCarly_ and _Sam & Cat_ on Nickelodeon) not many people know, but she was raised Mormon. She was told one day, I guess when she was "worthy" enough as a follower of Christ, her "little voice" would talk to her. From what I gathered the "little voice" was supposed to be God speaking to you. I read in her book _I'm Glad My Mom Died_ (an amazing story of C.A. in the form of narcissistic parenting & enmeshment) and for *YEARS* she was being commanded by the "little voice" to do things like spin in a circle, touch her belly button 8 times, etc. Only now she realizes those were _rituals_ and she had severe obsessive-compulsive disorder ☹️ So that's a really great example.

these males need children to ascend, but they abuse and neglect mothers and children to the point of deathe, why?

We love you Amanda! 🩷🫶✨️

The "order business's only" debit card takes the line "Owe my soul to the company store," to a whole new level