THE DARKER SIDE OF POLYGAMY 

Anna Schvarzman Goncharova same things grown men who believe they should be able to be free to have “consensual” sex with young boys. “Manlove” official org. Smh

Law has obligations to protect people too. If there are people who uses ‘religion’ to rape young girls, it has to protect girls. As a. Christian, I know that it is not biblical, what they are doing.

My faith tells me to kill assholes like him, so I guess there shouldn’t be a law to prosecute or punish me for doing it🤷‍♂️

It bugs the shit out of me when people put "me:" before typing a comment. We know it's you speaking. The parenthesis signify the previous statement isn't your words. This is like 3rd grade shit.

I say: magical beings should not be considered in law at all.

That's exactly what it is. Warren Jeffs is a sick man.

“I don’t think he had that much ribs” that made me chuckle but you’re totally right

Nowhere in the Bible it says it's illigal to have multiple wives.

Adam and Eve is ideal, but God has condoned of Abraham and his wives, David and his wives (so long as they were not heathens).

😂😂😂 at “Adam, Eve, Martha, Betty and Sue”

Yes, before he orders all his followers to “drink the punch”.

There’s this thing called the constitution and individuals rights.

@@jf3715 i understand there human rights, but at the same time people who are imprisoned due to organized crime are prohibited from getting in contact with family and friends because this could lead to orders being executed from prison. I believe it should be the same in this case.

Bebe morg facts

Ran Dom you shouldn’t get those rights when you’re grooming little girls, that’s fucking disgusting.

yeah! could argue that the biggest mistake God made was giving the man an insatiable organ.

I don't understand why people equate abuse and polygamy? Polygamy is just a collective marriage where all parties participate willfully.

@Candice Lynn In that case you probably better promote education and informing women that they can choose. Not banning them from participating in the relationships they want to participate in. There should be difference between criticizing polygamy and criticizing "things associated with polygamy".

​@Candice Lynn But how it's the source? it's just like saying that islam is a source of islamism. It's easy to conclude that "obviously women can't agree on that", like you know better than them. You can fake devotion to your husband, but you can't fake the light in your eyes. Watch Tom Green family, watch how his wifes talking about him, I refuse to believe they were forced.

Prayers? How about a long jail sentence?

I don't know him, but abuse happens in all kind of relationships, in monogamous just as often.

Two things *CAN* be true at the same time, you know. So it *is* true that Blackmore was an abuser, but it is *also* true that he was a victim *OF* abuse himself by Jeffs. That's what they are saying by his being a victim, that if he did not follow Jeffs' orders that his wives *AND* his children would be stripped from him and given to others more "faithful". Regardless of how you feel about their lifestyle, Blackmore *IS* those children's father. He did not want to have those he loved taken from him where he could never see them again.

He suffered abuse and brainwashing, but just in a different way. This is sick all around.

@@VioletJoy Exactly!

@@VioletJoy Just like pretty much everybody else. Your own moral views was formed by your parents and surrounded. You are brainwashed just like him.

Somebody needs to send some condom their way.

“I don’t like where this is going” Johntron

@@KB-si5fx Aiming to finish it isn't fun...

Well it's just a small group but they do get way more babies than the avarage American family from what I've heard

I was just thinking that. Shudder!

And coming out is a real mind F* :(

aleckto28 yep! I feel so lucky for being born (even though in a poor but) normal country!!!

Time to remove them

yessss ahaha finally I'm not alone, I follow the two brothers who are kids in this fam so came here

@@madelinesandler7424 so is their dad Winston?

no

Much like a cult anticult

I'm not so sure about "all come together and agree this is wrong and disgusting" there is those ofislam that don't seem to get that not only is it pedophilia it is barbaric and has nothing to do whit a form of God's Love of HIS CREATION.

IKR

Polygamy isn't wrong, "liberal."

@Shirl Zitting Prove it.

Iguana Pete he’s definitely someone’s bitch in prison 😆

Good hope he's regularly buggered .

Too funny

Rotflmbo

If there's any justice in this world, it's more than 23.

Someone with a scriptural context, your a Catholic? I just finished my studies. Ive been told this is an anti Pope, this I feel is true what you said. Its something the witnesses also use to promote their way of life

That's true. And very sad.

@@higbro7362 smh

Jesus did't say that, the guy who made it up and wrote it down said it .

@@Ballarateast you mean the bible

Did u come from that dude and if u did was his dad apart of this rape religion thing

Sadly, probably both.

ashley dawn - Ewwwwwww! I just threw up in my mouth. 🤢🤮

@@ashleydawn517 He did molest several of his own daughters--as well as at least one son, several nephews (two of whom committed suicide because of it) and a sister.

sometimes it's both

I’m with you. I thought the same thing tol

And the person who told that man is was okay. Hell will ring his ass out

@@randomuser5443 Hey Uncle Joe, I thought you were an atheist and didn't believe in hell.

Lindsey W agreed

When she said “I prostituted myself to get into heaven” I felt so bad for her. It’s exactly what happened. People that young don’t know what they’re doing, you can’t make life choices that young.

timetraveler4000 I am happy that people are realizing this. Is is all deception there. The people have no idea what Warren really does

To me this is and sounds like a cult bc how they word it with words like leave and escape and moral breach yep this is a cult

Katy Did Your so right! I dont understand how come I havent heard about Catholic minister getting prison term for their sins.

Ya as if sex had anything to do with religious faith. Such sadness when men uses the bible, their so-called religious faith to control women, ladies, LITTLE GIRLS, and even boys. When they use the bible to protect them from judgement of others. I love the multi millionaire ministers who preach of money, giving, compassion, judgement. Do they not know how many hungry starving people they could feed with that million dollar chandelier or thousand dollar suite/dress?

Some wont I've met lots of them

There are laws, i.e., U.S.C. The prophet is an alien. U.S.C specifically states marriage is between a man and woman. Benefits/property received as a result of null marriages shall be confiscated. Whoever issued the certificate/license is derelict in their duties.

#jim jones

Honestly it shouldn’t even be a law against a faith. It’s either you follow the country’s laws or you go to jail. If the laws of your faith disrespect the laws of the land we have a problem.

Carol Santana I’m not a fan of religion, but some are conscientious objectors. They should be honored.

It’s against the actions, not the faith.

Why do you have this flag next to your pseudo?

@@lewisacaroll2429 He is probably Armenian

@@lewisacaroll2429 Maybe because it's the flag of their nation?

It's an unoriginal cliche, not really powerful, and it trivializes hell which Satan wants you to do.

@@barbatvs8959 it is powerful because it describes what she felt during her abuse. How can you trivialize that?

@@trichellevargas2908 Polygamy isn't abuse. You're conflating. The extra wives of King David lived way better than you do. :-)

@@barbatvs8959 it trivializes it because hell doesn't exist.

@@NaomiIsSoAwesome98 LOL

Nalani Hamby it is difficult because they are a large collective and some of the men did not want to but also did not want to leave their families. The guilty and the innocent are mixed in because some of the men did not want to but had to some of them probably stayed to prevent the same thing from happening to their children. It is a difficult case and hard to convict the truly guilty.

Mispeled Devel *sigh* very true, life is rarely black and white much as we might wish that it was. Men can and do suffer from the same emotional trauma this type of abuse leaves behind.

Nalani Hamby I just hope this cult is gone or gone soon and everything is sorted out

Nalani Hamby Then Islam should be banned first.

本田盾子 you'll get no argument from me there.

They wanna live in the bs era, then no human rights of this era for them

AD NOVITATEM fallacy.

Plus when he said but what woman doesn't lie about her age I cringed so fucking hard

I don't believe for a second that she lied about her age just to be his concubine. He's no oil painting, doesn't seem to have great intellect, not funny... Not much of a catch

It is pretty obvious when girls are 10 or 11.

Damn. You would think that there would be some kind of document, like a birth certificate, or something that he would have access to.

It is really screwed up.

lmao exactly. seems like this person wants a more dramatic title, but I mean.. the only side of polygamy is a dark side. lmao.

The children suffer .thats whats wrong

Came here to say this! lol. Polygamy is already a one-sided, dogma-driven sexist setup. IDGAF what people do in the bedroom, but let's not act like women with a lifetime of religious brainwashing & abuse are capable of "free choice" to enter these exploitative relationships. Especially when they're 14.

How is Polygamy wrong?

Many of the patriarchs in the Bible practiced poligamy. Just saying,....

If it’s between consenting adults that seek it, then I don’t see the problem.

@@BrookeKatherine. Watch excaping poligomy. You may not see a problem but theres even a problem with the adults. This is just one of the many poligomy groups. They are known as one of the most vilent groups. The woman are forced into marrage. They are told who to merry and when. The woman are adused and if they are caught trying to leave. Then they are beat. There children are often ripped from them and there told there not worthy of being a mom anymore. Its not just sleeping with more then one woman. Its about about control, fear, sex, and aduse.

lol.

@@BayMaxAcademy yeah, it's a group with some shitty ideology. Your local polygamous couple between 3 consenting adults is absulutly fine.

@@lavourse Even 3 isn't fine.

Madison Satava also the Bible..... Hahahhaha haha A whole bunch of bullshit

very well put!

Madison Satava I agree, but these people don’t believe in the Bible- Warren Jeffs is their messiah. Ugh

THANK YOU FOR WRITING THIS OUT! I was actually reading the bible to find this verse cuz Im so mad just by watching this and this fake B**TCH ASS pastor!

Ran Dom just shut the fuck up.

😂

You're right, it's not. It's a cult

@@Kinnakeeter no it's a sexual belief. People don't worship polygamy they just happen to want to be in a relationship like that. Not all polygamy is underage girls and older men.

exactly...and the older men exile the younger men, who are still teenagers, so they won't be competition. This leaves a population of young men homeless and uneducated.

And why is trading around women and their children like playing cards ok at all.

IKR In some circles that is called menage a trois or menage a bunch of women and one guy. LOL A whole religion justifying what baser men want all along. Disgusting.

Darling Jewel it's all blamed on God it is disgusting

Right !!?? I got in BIG trouble while asking that one in our Temple practices ! Im out !!

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Nick true, the Book of Mormon and the other 2 books doctrine contradict the Bible, which they also believe 🙄 it's crazy

almost all prohet in bible have more than 1wife.did you know that?

Mohd Hanif Abu Bakar in the old testament this is true. But When Jesus arrived in the new testament he abolished the law and spoke heavily on keeping marriage sacred, and pure between one husband and one wife...And you don't have to marry if you don't want! In the case of the adulterous woman came up, he comforted her as society tried to stone her alive..yet no one went after the man!!!

Frankly, as an atheist, I find the book of mormon as ludicrous as the ever so precious bible. That being said, it's also a really cool read, tons of stories and stuff akin to what you'd find in the bible.

@@mohdhanifabubakar5585 that's the science testament there is anew testament we live by the new testament not the acien one the new testament was made for us when Jesus died on the cross

You're calling them "powerful men", but you are the one paternalising these women. Willful and loving relationships should never be illegal.

@@XOPOIIIO so mom and son would be okay if the son’s over 18?

@@XOPOIIIO Have you ever watched Sister Wives? Everyone's life on that show is COMPLETE shite. They are the poster family for why polygamy does not work in practice. I know they are just one isolated example, but their story rings very true with the jealousy and the man having a favorite wife, and how that reality plays out among the other wives and the impact on all of the wives' children. The husband is a narcissist and mentally unhinged.

They look alike

@@industrialcathedral Too much alike. The guys are breeding with their sisters.

Many of the children are now being born with Down's syndrome. They can't keep it on the family much longer smh

under the law one is allowed to have relations with a cousin, well depending on the stat. thats not the issue at all. the issue is a grown ass adult taking choices away from a child and forcing himself on her.

So sad

The Witness Wore Red. She luckily avoided marrying Warren, but was married briefly to his father.

@@piratesswoop725 thanks! I’ll definitely be giving it a read 👍🏻

19th Wife was a book written by a woman who escaped Brigham Young.

The lady at the very end saying “God if these are your people, send me to hell.” Really hit home for me. I wish I could hug her.

@@vanessabeasley7885 most who leave become atheists. They simply abandon any belief in a god. Some do become Christian. My best friends in my church are both from polygamist families. The man was a son of the cult prophet, his wife (met and married after escaping). Is the eldest daughter of a 2nd wife.

Bill Wilson when it’s between consenting adults and doesn’t involve religion.

@@starriecitrine8540 exactly

@Damian Furrer : It's a mindset. It is not based on youth and/or beauty.

Bill Wilson well your comment shows you’re completely ignorant to what polygamy really is. The way these people practice polygamy is wrong, that’s not what polygamy really is in reality. Educate yourself.

@@Asdfgqedfglo : Polygamy: the practice or custom of having more than one wife or husband at the same time. My question remains.

Rikke2011 it is disturbing that we even have people of authority asking this. I mean, wouldn't human sacrifice be some sort of religious Faith? I guess we can become murderers too so long as it's in the name of god.

I know people are upset that polygamy is illegal. The law hurts the people who are consenting adults who just want a healthy relationship with their partners. However people need to understand why it’s illegal. This is why.... polygamy has been going on for centuries even before the founding of Mormonism. Men have been practicing this forever, for centuries (almost 100% of the time) forcing women to be their “partners”. Not even partners, more like sex slaves and breeding animals. A lot of the women were extremely young. Back then there weren’t any rules about age so there could have been girls as young as 6 being used. Being abused and manipulated, it’s insane. To be brainwashed to the extreme and if u didn’t listen u could be killed. U think that shit would stay in the past. To see this shit still happening today is scary as shit.....it’s horrible. And I feel really bad for polygamist who are good people being roped into this mess and can’t marry the people they want due to this law. But this is why we need it...to protect women (and men, men can be abused too) from being brainwashed, used ect...

@@sharedemail3171 At least it's no longer a norm and is being slowly forgotten. Though pedophiles will always exist and find a way to abuse children. Thank goodness we've come so far to finally punish the people who commit those crimes.

There is a lighter side to polygamy?

Geezs this is all more of people like pedophilia tries to do shady shit and it's been banned long time ago too it should be banned anyway

Tess Gordon same thing man

Tess Gordon 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍✌

Jayne Eyre lol you mean Jehovah's Witness?

Tess Gordon A religion just has more people than a cult. All are lies.

It is a cult

Sinnex Cryllic having a more fulfilling sex life ?

@@PiOfficial for whom? I'd say not for any of the wives. Honestly, seems disappointing even for the male partner. Do you forget that the aging process isn't as nice to males in the bedroom?

Cherrelle Brooks What does that have to do with anything

Pi Studies have shown that deep emotional + romantic attachment result in much higher rates of reported pleasure in sex for both men and women. Having a harem of wives restricts the time someone can spend with each individual to know them, understand them, and grow to love them. So your point is refuted.

@@PiOfficial if you list that having a fulfilling sex life as a potential bright side of polygamy, then my my comment opposes yours and that's what it has to do with it. Polygamy leaves little room for all parties to be satisfied (in all areas).

Kris Mederios usually the police in the FLDS community are in FLDS so they can get away with anything

Kris Mederios

To kill someone doesn't make you feel better. I don't understand you Americans

Yeah, I am aware. I live in AZ, and have tried to get near the compound. Police are there to stop you quick... they don't want you to see much at all.

Agreed. They have NOTHING in common with the lds church no matter what they say.

Dahlia22273 fr, i was gonna be like "uh i thought all of it was the dark side"

Dahlia22273 that's why it says darkER

Dahlia22273 It gets darker when gross old men decide that they want to marry and fuck 12 year olds.

How's so?

mean while bitches: im in an open relationship cuz my hormones :S

I do hate the stigma with poly. Most poly people aren't pedos with a cult. Their are monogamous & poly relationships that suck & vice versa.

No polygamy is not dark fornication and adultry is dark.

@@XOPOIIIOit’s sin God intended marriage between 1 man and 1 woman and they became one.

Sounds very demonic.For it is satan in human flesh wants to destroy little girls.

Same here. He will be deceased soon.

Sabiene Fontanilla I agree

Woman are actually just as guilty of having several mates. Men just dont hide it as often.

That is not exactly true. Polyamory can also be a lifestyle outside of the context of religious sects. My wife has a steady boyfriend on the side and I am cool with this set-up. All three of us are neither religious nor, for that matter, under-age.

In some cultures women not only marry one brother but all of them so the land doesn’t divide in loads of little pieces. But that is not what these women want, it is a tradition.

There are places when poliandry exists, like in China. But cults are a great place for a pedo so...

There are societies that have that. I was with two men for a long time. You just don't hear about it as often, and it seems to be only men that use the religious garbage to back themselves. LIttle man syndrome to an extreme.

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satan don't even have to bother with them for there is already wrong doctrine(wrong scriptures)that already in the family....this the kind that satan would turn to his devils n said,"leave them alone for they are mine already."....that y we should watchout for what we believe in n stop believing in other people to interpret the bible for u but u urself to dig in to the bible n ask the Holy Spirit for guidance in the nsme of Jesus.....to save ur family from such corrupt people....only the BIBLE is the WORD of God.Gb

Emma Stone don’t blame it on Satan... “free will” we have free will .. blame it on the sick ass adults condoning thier babies getting RAPED

Are people still so primitive where you live that they believe in God and Satan? How sad

Very busy 💯

Believing in Satan helps these people thrive

Polygamy isn't biblical. It's disgusting

It's because God isn't cool with it. These men have made their own scriptures to fit what they want.

He doesn’t like it for the men either. King Henry ring any church bells

Colin Silver well its because their “God” is fake and is actually these people who say theyre “prophets”

Exactly!!!!

Not when one is Hypnotized or victim of Stockholm. Its all we Knew. We didn't know the lighter side :(

The snickerdoodles your mormon friend brings to choir rehearsals.

When it's agreed upon with all parties involved there are quite a few advantages. One is house work the other is people to be with.

I have two wifes and one daughter with each. We are super happy together, I dont understand why you would think thats wrong.

@@Madferreiro And you are just going to leave us hanging on your story like that? More details please.

Sister wives are true sisters who share the same father, husband and grandfather. The Amish are no better.

conformity. Uniforms. Dress codes. My son is in the Marine Corps. When I see a pic of a platoon of newly buzz-cut Marines in formation, they all look alike too. Couldn't even pick my own son out of the group picture. It's freaky.

Haaa so true

🤣lord I cannot disobey, so the cake is eaten ,amen

"Mmmmm, cake." Homer Simpson

@@Kinnakeeter 😅

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Holy shit tone it down with the full stops

Jake 7 Unleashed Oh god like it matters. Chill out

also child rape

Godisgood Allthetime lying about what?

Godisgood Allthetime I think they are involved In human trafficking. Sold off the boys for sure.

Do not insult sick practices by making this compassion

Issy TheMiner What’s sick about it?

Polygamy on its own does not have to be like this. If more than 2 people love each other and all parties are consenting and happy then what's the problem?

@@Somebodyelse141 the problem is these (14y/o) girls are groomed from babies to think they will burn in hell if they dont marry old men

@@iguanapete3809 I agree. Like I very obviously said, it's not always like that

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I think they realize they are screwed

Susie Oakley oh I say the same thing to muslim women.

They get out and become no good like most woman are today if woman stay married to they at 1st honor there deals this kind going to happen yes most definitely will want be a part of it because most woman stay with there husband in this religious groups

It’s because they are so uneducated, they literally don’t know any better. It’s sickening.

@@thecoldhardtruth6819 your comment makes no sense

people are insane

that caught my ear too. she was saying she's right and all of us are wrong!

yes. what its free? the poor peoples mind has been twisted. I believe striongly the want to leave, but they are scared. they are KIDNAPPED

"You are free to live in the absolute tyrannical control of another" lol

As is most of history. As is your existence.

Same here

Carina Rankine unbreakable they alive dammit, it’s a miracle. unbreakable they alive dammit and females are strong as hell

Michael Schofield A Netflix series

Carina Rankine I know. I am an ex member of this church and I just found that show. I am obsessed because it is so relatable.

Omg yesss

Try looking for lockers in Shibuya station and getting ambushed by a group of old, obese burka'd Indonesian women following one obese Indonesian man. Too specific? lmao

Marina Wilson j

Hell yea. You should join us i get hella bitches now I'm Mormon

No these are the crazy Mormons it's like saying the KKK represents Christianity

@Grace Marie boy you need to think before you say anything! Have you ever been to a modern Mormon church?? No you got your facts from a RU-vid video lol nobody, in my church at least believes that polygamy is okay! If your in Alberta Canada come down to the Airdrie church! Everyone is welcome. It's all about the love, peace and sense of community in the church not what joeseph Smith says! Someone might quote the Bible or the book of Mormon but that is just to help make a point about the sermon

It’s because boys were molested secretly, because well homosexuality is not accepted by those people, but young girls was openly allowed! Both horrible but the fact that everyone knew about young girls and allowed it to happen is what’s crazy

Wide Awake some people can’t believe that others might be able to understand anything about America and think they are immune to criticism of the crap that goes on there. It’s fine for their cretinous, racist president to insult other nations and stir up hatred of anyone who isn’t white but will never admit that child marriage still happens in an alarming number of states in the US and that the majority of terrorist attacks in the US are committed by white, right wing, home-grown hate mongers.

Thank you! You told the truth. And seriously, I would rather have one wife than 7!

@@Kinnakeeter yes one partner is enough to make life sweet, more than that just increases tension. All these men and women with multiple partners over time become stressed out and frustrated , they just don't agree

Ruth Barr incest maybe. And I doubt any black people are allowed in this. This looks a little white nationalist to me. But maybe I'm reaching. No diversity. Its a small community.

Yes, I think it's iincest. I'm white but even when I had long hair it would never do that ugly hairstyle, it's too thick and wavy. Black people aren't allowed in so that explains why they're all white. Creepy and bad for the gene pool but I gues when you have no education you don't worry too much!

Ruth Barr Mormons believe that black people have dark skin to punish them for being sinners. Doubt their are many black mormons.

Lilly Davis I don't see how dark skin is a punishment when it helps protect us and keep us looking young

Love Bird I don't believe that it is at all. I was saying that's what's in the book of Mormon.

Mohamed?

LMAOOOO I'm ded 😂😂😭😭😭

lisa perez And she bought then made a religion around it.

Lol😂

lisa perez she should have removed it and see how many wives he wants after that..

Lol

Dumbest women, ever.

Karen Gilbreath that was a different cult, but still very creepy!

MeMe O. I think he's the father

Adrian Ho The father? Ooohhh ok. I still cringe because it looks weird, I don't know maybe it's me.

MeMe O. Lol too many kids from an underaged kid

MeMe O. I know and I couldn't watch it because it's just so disgusting.

MeMe O. It’s fucking sick

There husbands are such jerks they are probably happy to have someone to share the load.

@@Doriesep6622 Obviously they are all sharing his "load"

lol that's the idea but FLDS believe that their proof is based on sometimes the Bible but mostly the book of Mormon and Joseph Smith himself why did people believe Joseph you may ask? simply because he sounded like God that's also another reason why they believe them that and everything the prophet says that's supposed to happen that doesn't is the chruches fault that's basically their excuse for screwing up

lol that's the idea but FLDS believe that their proof is based on sometimes the Bible but mostly the book of Mormon and Joseph Smith himself why did people believe Joseph you may ask? simply because he sounded like God that's also another reason why they believe them that and everything the prophet says that's supposed to happen that doesn't is the chruches fault that's basically their excuse for screwing up

That's all religion, not FLDS or LDS itself. Weather you believe someone or not.

+Miles Bowen I'm sorry but I'm going to have to disagree with u on that I will admit though that today there is a lot more religions that are like that now especially now that ICOC has grown that it has effected other religions more than people know about so that's part of why there are a lot of so called religions and churches now a days that are cults just trying to take advantage of people but what people don't realize is that their are religions as unbelievable as they may seem, that aren't dangerous cults I'm not saying that, that number of religions chruches etc is little though because is and there might be a chance that one of those religions may one day be taken over by a cult that has been part of the reasons why a lot of religions have into turned what they are today this cult is one that not many people know about which is why they don't realize what they are doing to a lot of religions. this cult that I mentioned is the ICOC look it up it was started by the FLDS u won't be able to find that anywhere though

I believe you. OH UNICORNE PRIESTESS!! GRANT ME THINE POWERE!!! ka-powie!

yelloworangered i think men are flocking. Just women aren’t,

Polygamy is ok if it's just a couple of people in one consenting relationship between adults. Not the way the video portrays it with abuse and brainwashing.

The cult never taught us tools for life. It teaches codependency in the worst degree. We can't get to heaven without the marriages. When someone is hypnotized since they could talk it's hard to break the patterns of worthlessness

Both the and women are victims. Women forced to marry, give birth, and work in the home. Men forced to marry multiple wives even if they don't want them, and work hard labor for no pay. I'd say both suck

@@SaraS-jq1ln its worse for women because in thesr kinds of churches, women are told men (first fathers, then their husbands) have ultimate authority. The women have to practice 'biblical submission'. They are just there to carry children, at least the men have authority over themselves.