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The deceptive mind 

Spiritual Unfoldment with John Butler
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Daniel asks John for advice on how to stop his mind attacking him. "It seems as though my mind has it in for me - at its worst, as if it's trying to kill me. Why would a human mind do that to itself?" John replies by finding the undivided. "The mental idea called 'I, me , mine - my' separation from God, wants to be noticed. But before the simple light of truth, it is darkness and confusion - a deceptive wolf in sheep's clothing."
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@sheep910
@sheep910 4 года назад
I don't know what's higher, me or John's trousers Much love ❤️
@TheBlueyedblond
@TheBlueyedblond 3 года назад
My first laugh of the day, thank you!
@ansenstrakey7764
@ansenstrakey7764 3 года назад
Lolol beat me to it 🤣🤣
@alic690
@alic690 3 года назад
Ha ha love it!
@featherdancerbird
@featherdancerbird 4 года назад
Dear John: Ive been listening to your words every night on my IPad since being alone now is a difficult and strange transition. I cannot tell you in words how comforting and reassuring you are to me. Sometimes I imagine you are my family - a very wise and wonderful grandfather. Thank you for your incredible insight
@mrchips96
@mrchips96 4 года назад
My heart always expands when I listen to you speak and when you fall silent I am drawn into the silence with you! I have gotten more from your silence than from all the spiritual teachings I have ever listened to! Thank you for sharing your life and wisdom with us! ❤️
@mmmfun77
@mmmfun77 4 года назад
Makarios wow...that is AWESOME
@BethanyRDH
@BethanyRDH 4 года назад
So peaceful and reassuring. I love hearing the flock of sheep in the background.
@bighouse581
@bighouse581 4 года назад
You made me notice it. Thank you for that
@mmmfun77
@mmmfun77 4 года назад
Bethany S. Me too
@naemahypnonae6685
@naemahypnonae6685 3 года назад
haha Just as John said into the silence, BAAAA
@big8052
@big8052 3 года назад
ok...after this stupid corona virus and im back to my stressful but great paying job my first pay check is going to this channel. period. John and Phil have ushered me through the worst of pain, through divorce, this virus, the cut back and pause of our company. stress and downsizing watching what its doing to families that are in my employ and the guilt I carry because of this virus and the impact.. John you put it so well and so simple when your face clears the top of that paper and you rise above it. im practicing over and over and watching your videos brings me a new strength and a feeling that in the end it will all be ok. thank you John for gracing us with your wisdom. im a loyal follower and always will be. thanks for getting me through the tough. much love and respect, Mark from Buffalo new york USA
@mzmoth
@mzmoth 4 года назад
(The mind trying to find stillness) "is a bit like the shadow trying to be the light". Perfect 👌
@simongermanjr2648
@simongermanjr2648 4 года назад
Wow that s really a..waken perspective*
@DimaShinder
@DimaShinder 4 года назад
That's a good analogy for why it's impossible to find peace through learning
@Picnmo
@Picnmo 4 года назад
It’s possible though. My gf used to watch me staring out the window as if in great contemplation. She knows now that 9times out of 10 I’m thinking of absolutely nothing. ☺️
@nildaluzrodriguez
@nildaluzrodriguez 3 года назад
It's light escaping the black hole. Which science says it's impossible...but with God ALL things are possible. God is deeper than all of space and the darkest abyss.
@alfredlamotte9844
@alfredlamotte9844 7 месяцев назад
John, hearing your silence, and your word of stillness, and the sheep calling in this field of green, has been the experience of heaven on earth. Thank you for Being!
@johndavis1140
@johndavis1140 4 года назад
Dearest John, as long as your feet are on this earth, hearts will be awakened. This I feel.
@liamarunbennett8282
@liamarunbennett8282 4 года назад
"from the innermost recess of my heart i have removed the thorn of endless opinion with the pincers of the knowledge of truth"
@thisnameisfake5657
@thisnameisfake5657 4 года назад
Really like these, much respect
@golafshangold3587
@golafshangold3587 2 года назад
Brilliant 👏. Mr. John butler. Thank you teacher. GOD BLESS YOU 🙌
@catherinea2726
@catherinea2726 4 года назад
I'm so glad I found you thank you, you make me smile inside john and of course thank you too phil Much love from Ireland ❣
@mmmfun77
@mmmfun77 4 года назад
Catherine A hi from Phoenix, AZ❤️👍
@svonkie
@svonkie 4 года назад
I must think of John's insights a dozen times a day.
@FlipMacz
@FlipMacz 4 года назад
Lovely 🌺 I did my graduate thesis on silence bcz it means so much to me. Fellow classmates laughed at it. Criticized. Called it an "interesting" topic.🙂
@simons.6029
@simons.6029 4 года назад
Your videos have helped me so much, thank you. I’ve stopped ruminating which has been a big problem for me and caused lots of depressed times. I realize how many problems our brain creates for us - it creates needs, and when we don’t live up to these needs, we feel a lack in life, and become depressed. I have really become more aware of this - the needs - we can totally live without them, they do not threaten us on life, if they are not met. Instead, we should focus on just being in the silence, do things just for the sake of doing them if they are valuable for us and others, and just stay in the present, without great needs of status or other ambitions, caused by an ever increasing dynamic and hyper marketing social media global world. We are who we are, and that is enough.
@martaaldama6419
@martaaldama6419 Год назад
Thank you, John and interviewer, I’m doing cross stitch and glad to know it’s my way to pray and meditate. ❤
@mlissa3232
@mlissa3232 4 года назад
Another lovely video, I really enjoyed the topics discussed today. I am a scientifically-minded person, but I can really respect this perspective you have on the existence of a God. It is very enlightened, and we can all behind it on some level. I wish there was more people who thought like you ❤
@nicholasbishop6731
@nicholasbishop6731 4 года назад
I am a theistic evolutionist, indeed, when many scientists view the universe, they are surprised to see how ordered it is, not a chaotic place. Leading many scientists, controversially in the scientific world, to suggest an intelligence behind the universe.
@mlissa3232
@mlissa3232 4 года назад
@@nicholasbishop6731 Yeah that has been suggested in certain circles. Everything is still theoretical, difficult to put any kind of label on it at this point. I like John's interpretation though, very open and unassuming 😊
@toddsqui
@toddsqui 4 года назад
"like passing clouds, they come and they go." Thank you.
@MCMicel1979
@MCMicel1979 4 года назад
Apart from some small points, this all could very well come from, say a Buddhist. The “rising and falling”, which John refers to is a typical Buddhist way of describing the fleeting nature of the world. It’s a beautiful thing to realise that these ideas or descriptions refer, ultimately, to the same, one truth, which is beyond description.
@Aum_shantishantishanti111
@Aum_shantishantishanti111 4 года назад
Well yes , humans trying to describe the same place / my fascination is people from there direct experiences telling me what they see .like they know something that is beautiful beyond belief.
@naemahypnonae6685
@naemahypnonae6685 3 года назад
all is one, he embodies that, x
@naiagp6952
@naiagp6952 4 года назад
I could have written Daniel's letter, I experience the same. This video has been a blessing. Thanks! 🙏🏻
@TomeRodrigo
@TomeRodrigo 4 года назад
Excellent video, especially the part with the shadow wanting to become light.
@dianadallas5867
@dianadallas5867 4 года назад
Thank you with all my heart, John, for your beautiful, calming, clear understandings. You help me very much ❤️
@bucklag
@bucklag 2 года назад
Thank you so much John...I believe you're the answer to my prayer. Your videos greatly helped me understand life better. I hope to become as wise and learned as you.
@mmmfun77
@mmmfun77 4 года назад
Daniel nailed it in the head. It took a lot for me to make peace with my mind by practicing stillness. I, too, thought it was out to kill me off. It was rough but worth it.... I can’t express how profound my life has become just by ‘being’♥️♥️♥️♥️
@wolfmyoji9141
@wolfmyoji9141 4 года назад
Thanks again Johnny. Your voice is the answer to world peace.
@mmmfun77
@mmmfun77 4 года назад
When I was learning to meditate, I thought I had to KILL my mind. I finally came to the realization after A LOT meditation and present moment awareness that, through the process, I was MAKING PEACE with my mind. Both the right and left hemispheres come together. Your brain’s frequency changes and true MAGIC happens. Drama falls away. Dramatic people seem to just move out of your life. Honestly , when you meditate, you are creating quantum mental space for greater possibilities to come. I am still surprised , even today, at how miraculous this regular practice is. It has completely changed my life for the better. ❤️from Phoenix, Az🍀
@harlan5339
@harlan5339 4 года назад
If you don’t mind asking, do you let the bad intrusive thoughts flow through your mind or do you know how to to just get rid of them? I know you said you make peace with your mind but could you elaborate?
@victoriamat6384
@victoriamat6384 2 года назад
Hi, did you use guided meditation when you started meditating? I’ve just started practicing it.
@1492tomato
@1492tomato 4 года назад
I loved the way you laughed heartily at "scientific evidence." Best response to the empirical priesthood I've ever heard. These videos are a Godsend - thank you for your willingness to be the messenger.
@gartazweagle
@gartazweagle 4 года назад
it's rather arrogant. it was not an answer it was just dismissing the question
@katapilarr
@katapilarr 4 года назад
This is amazing. Blessed be.
@darrellborland119
@darrellborland119 4 года назад
Thanks, to John and Phil!
@allrawpaul
@allrawpaul 4 года назад
Very good explanations and obsevations. The mind wants to congratulate itself for its spiritual attainments. Just remain in stillness in the presense of God. There is nothing to attain and no one to attain it.
@BobStetson
@BobStetson 4 года назад
Thank you Mr Butler for all your talks/advice. I’m going for a nice long Sunday walk now to reflect on this and enjoy a little silence.
@goodmornish1984
@goodmornish1984 4 года назад
I see aura of bright light over his head 12:00 min...truly blessed 🙏
@catherinea2726
@catherinea2726 4 года назад
You are blessed to have seen it xx
@nancypaton6221
@nancypaton6221 4 года назад
I always feel lifted up in spirit when I listen to John.
@donwarren4261
@donwarren4261 4 года назад
Thank you John from the bottom of my heart.
@iv7796
@iv7796 4 года назад
You are wonderful at keeping me on track. Thank you!
@jonathanzafrarincon8774
@jonathanzafrarincon8774 4 года назад
His voice charms me
@mrdapp3r
@mrdapp3r 4 года назад
Love your words. They have helped me through a lot of inner turmoil. Thank you
@jeanettem8304
@jeanettem8304 4 года назад
Thank you for your presence.
@loviekern4168
@loviekern4168 4 года назад
So amazing. You help me come back to whats important. Thank you so much for doing this
@warnthewitch2578
@warnthewitch2578 4 года назад
Thank you so much 🙏🏽 I needed this because I was kicking my own a** with fear of progress
@RJH_LIL
@RJH_LIL 4 года назад
Lovely to hear from you again.
@landongilbert2311
@landongilbert2311 4 года назад
I love this videos thank you keep the good work up 😊
@benbrown4692
@benbrown4692 2 года назад
Just re-watched this. Such fresh, profound spiritual teaching. I write as a preacher myself. I always find inspiration in John's words that come from such depth.
@hayleyjane6763
@hayleyjane6763 4 года назад
Thank you.
@LenaKrupinski-vg5wi
@LenaKrupinski-vg5wi Год назад
🙏💎🙏 Hi , Thanks to you both !! Phil is an excellent camera man how he captures the light 🙏 Extrodanary .🙏💟🙏
@SpiritualUnfoldment
@SpiritualUnfoldment 11 месяцев назад
I agree. 😂 No, thanks, really. Phil
@TheMikegordy
@TheMikegordy 3 года назад
John is so still that I catch myself looking up at the screen as I'm falling asleep and wondering if its paused or not lmao
@houmandehdashtidmd9078
@houmandehdashtidmd9078 3 года назад
The question about mind taking control and feels like attacking in middle of spiritual progress,was exactly my question. Thank you for that ..
@RainRiderAmbience
@RainRiderAmbience 4 года назад
i was happy to see the notification 😊
@casualacquaintance1100
@casualacquaintance1100 4 года назад
Great delivery...John, your a real treasure and a great human being!
@kevinholmes9982
@kevinholmes9982 4 года назад
I keep coming back to your channel at what seems to be the perfect time. Love to you, John as well as all my fellow viewers. Your laugh always at least makes me smile/laugh right along with you.
@SkyScannerBtown
@SkyScannerBtown 4 года назад
Dear John, thank you for this message today, it has not fallen upon deaf (or me me me ears! ) Nothing in the world is softer and weaker than water; But, for attacking the hard and strong, there is nothing like it! For nothing can take its place. That the weak overcomes the strong, and the soft overcomes the hard, / This is something known by all, but practiced by none. Have a peaceful remainder of the day everyone and god bless all.
@BrianHallmond
@BrianHallmond 4 года назад
"If you don't give them attention, they have no power." This for negative thoughts, memories and especially haters.
@practice2391
@practice2391 4 года назад
Very good video - great ideas and explanations - Thank you
@michaellyons8712
@michaellyons8712 3 года назад
Thank you John. 🙏😊
@amandawilliams7133
@amandawilliams7133 4 года назад
Wonderful again, thank you John - and Phil too. These videos are so helpful.
@Serenedove
@Serenedove 3 года назад
Don't care to answer any question. Just go on describing what you know, think and feel! That is therapeutic.
@JF-kv1gm
@JF-kv1gm 4 года назад
I have been absent from this site for a few weeks and it feels a bit like returning to a familiar embrace of unconditional love. This monkey mind that is part of our existence is a formidable force that conditions us so much. It is possible, I believe, to be beyond the dualistic mind and no longer be slave to it and its demands. I sense that John has experienced that and is intent on helping us discover it too. Thank you, John. Thank you, Phil. 🙏☺️💗
@alic690
@alic690 3 года назад
John's great.... Feet on the ground, stop and listen. Love him. Respect to Phil also for putting this channel together.
@hightower6546
@hightower6546 4 года назад
Thank you, John.
@AndrewHedlund100
@AndrewHedlund100 4 года назад
Thanks Gandalf
@tehfuqizg0inon588
@tehfuqizg0inon588 4 года назад
That which you resist, persists
@lavettar
@lavettar 4 года назад
Lovely location. Thank you.
@HolyOne916
@HolyOne916 4 года назад
The first answer is so simple and perfect
@johnoakley6362
@johnoakley6362 4 года назад
Thank you John, finally you've gotten through to me / or finally I understand more the "mechanism" by which I have the potential to understand/grow. I've watched many of your video's, but my "Monkey mind" has always got in the way. This video and what you say in it silenced the "Monkey mind" long enough for the real me to say "Ah!, now I understand the foundation from which I can go forward and build". Thank you so very much John & Phil.
@nicolabishop996
@nicolabishop996 4 года назад
As always, thank you
@jamesgranger9842
@jamesgranger9842 4 года назад
Thanks John. Peace
@PRINCESS2527
@PRINCESS2527 4 года назад
Love your videos John 😊😊 love from Arizona ❤️❤️❤️
@rrocket8204
@rrocket8204 4 года назад
Thank John and Phil, the countryside there is beautiful 🤗
@babygirl-lg8qw
@babygirl-lg8qw 4 года назад
God bless you!!!
@tomekgorniak
@tomekgorniak 4 года назад
Thank you, thank you.
@Fintan33
@Fintan33 4 года назад
I saw the BLM protest today from a distance . The first sign my eyes gaze upon is " SILENCE IS VIOLENCE" . "SILENCE IS DEAFENING" it almost made me laugh at how backwards the thinking was ! Little did these people know that perhaps if they were to be silent and still god would flow through them
@nicholasbishop6731
@nicholasbishop6731 4 года назад
Sadly, we are going backwards, we are becoming the violent, reactive King Kong apes, we are deep down.
@meekomania457
@meekomania457 4 года назад
i would guess most activists dont go to silence or theyre counterparts the police ,
@reynamorales7051
@reynamorales7051 4 года назад
Im very glad i found his videos, now im a huge fan. Greetings from Tijuana México
@L.K.48
@L.K.48 4 года назад
Thank you
@avalondreaming1433
@avalondreaming1433 4 года назад
John, the Good Shepherd.
@David-bh2jl
@David-bh2jl 4 года назад
Dear JOHN WE /I thank you for being able to give us, humanity some understanding of where we just get loss, mind is such a trickster,It aint real you can't touch it it is all an illusion.Bless you.
@Newbeginning1980
@Newbeginning1980 4 года назад
This man may just help save me from myself Love his heart. All we can do is love more. That’s his message.
@ladypenelope99
@ladypenelope99 3 года назад
God is a Spirit, infinite, eternal, and unchangeable, in his being, wisdom, power, holiness, justice, goodness, and truth. ‘God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.’ John 4:24 See also: Job 11:7-9; Ps. 90:2; Jas. 1:17; Ex. 3:14; Ps. 147:5; Rev. 4:8; 15:4; Ex. 34:6-7. It so sad to see someone trying to give spiritual ‘wisdom’ and they don’t even know who God is. Especially seeing as God has come in person, in the form of his only son Jesus Christ who came and died for the sins of those who trust in him and who rose again and who is sitting at the right hand of God, who will return to this earth to judge it. For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus (1 Timothy 2:5 KJV).
@Neceyjenae
@Neceyjenae 2 года назад
I thought I was the only one, and then didn't answer if believed in Hell
@nildaluzrodriguez
@nildaluzrodriguez 3 года назад
Mindfulness puts a lot of emphasis on "listening", but what about our other senses? For example, I find it relaxing feeling the sun and gentle breeze on a 75 degree day walking or hiking where there's woods and mountains. How about feeling. Recent I took a trip to Colorado, and park on the side of a road where the Big Timber Mountains were, and there was a creek with clear flowing water. I crawled down to get to this creek, took my shoes off, and placed my feet in the water! Though it was cold, ot felt like my feet were being kissed with oil! The sun brighten my face and it felt like I was alive! Mindfulness isn't avout just listening and silence. It's about feeling with all of your senses in that silence. The sensations, the smells, the seeing of the beauty of God's creation. All that comes together and brings you peace and clarity. Best feeling in the world. I struggle with silence, because I'm hyperactive by the way.😁 A foolish mind utters everything in it. But a sound mind...there's wisdom. So yes, I'm foolish, but working on it. 😁✌
@joe.black-mortem.angelos
@joe.black-mortem.angelos 4 года назад
#1: #getburned by John Butler
@stefanuz1
@stefanuz1 4 года назад
Good one to all of you! Now, John, how would you say "feet on the ground" if it was more in tune with the other natural elements like air, fire, water or space? What would be the new words for "feet" and for "ground" ?
@wanderinghistorian
@wanderinghistorian 4 года назад
I find it honorable that even though John is a person who isn't really willing to stand firmly on orthodox Christianity, he is still bold enough to insist that there is a terrible place of outer darkness for those who reject God (or...whatever he thinks is that perfect peace). I too believe that the real terror and horror of what we call "Hell" (it has like...a hundred names) is less a burning lake of sulfur (though there might be such a thing) but rather the terrible absence of God and with His absence the absence of all good things (love, peace, friendship, hope, happiness, faith, etc.) I have suffered from depression and I have been in great physical pain. Of the two, I'd rather have the physical pain than to feel that gnawing emptiness in my heart. I believe that the scariest part about Hell is that terrible loneliness and despair. The realization that even though you turned from God at every opportunity, He was still there taking care of you and being your friend. The realization that now that you have what you wanted - a life without Him - you realize that life is no life at all - and it is too late. Fortunately, God has not left us orphans. God has made a way for us to be restored to Him what was lost in our sin through the person and works of Jesus Christ - who died on a cross to take that terrible fate from us and onto Himself. Having swallowed up death, He rose again, and now lives forever at the right hand of the Father in Heaven to intercede and save completely those who put their trust in Him. Now to Him who is able to do above and beyond all we could ever dream or hope for - to Him be glory and honor and praise forever! Amen!
@zeyotee
@zeyotee 4 года назад
i just learned something new which was "you gotta be cruel to be kind"
@mikeq5807
@mikeq5807 4 года назад
Tao 5, The sage treats all people as straw dogs.
@pascalhassenpflug3401
@pascalhassenpflug3401 4 года назад
Saying it this way is very misleading. Something that APPEARS to be cruel can be kind. But then it's not actually cruel, is it? Unless you are very clear in your mind, I would leave any apparent cruelty to God. Also, the word "cruel" almost implies a destructive intention rather than a kind one, so I frankly think this term is badly chosen.
@pascalhassenpflug3401
@pascalhassenpflug3401 4 года назад
@@mikeq5807 Steven Mitchell thinks that just means impartiality (as I read it from his comments in his translation of the Tao). I could also see it to mean that all egos are treated as insubstantial. IMO it certainly doesn't mean that cruelty is somehow preferred to or always a part of kindness, (and I feel that John's quote is misleading in that way, so I'd rather point this out).
@tillyvickers2721
@tillyvickers2721 3 года назад
Beautiful🌷❤
@marcelopepinho
@marcelopepinho 4 года назад
Until Tomorrow John ....
@freeicecreamyo7530
@freeicecreamyo7530 4 года назад
This man is the encapsulation of the Faustian spirit
@mountainair
@mountainair Год назад
Outdoor John is great
@exconway
@exconway 4 года назад
As Mom used to say, looking spiffy!
@jeremystone6641
@jeremystone6641 4 года назад
God is Love and Jesus Christ, His son, is our saviour. There's your answer.
@IshakMujevic
@IshakMujevic 4 года назад
Why you always cutting periods of video where is just silence? Those are very precious to. Look at another spiritual teachers videos periods of silence are not cutt of.
@nicoskilivinghealing685
@nicoskilivinghealing685 4 года назад
Tune in next episode. John Butler VS Master Roshi.
@midplanewanderer9507
@midplanewanderer9507 3 года назад
In my experience, there appears to be more than one kind of "silence;" the first kind is the silence you try to hear, it's rather mundane, distinctly flat, thoughts and stimuli come and go, interspersed with vague spaciousness, neutral or vaguely pleasant. Small awareness, tenuously aware of a small awareness. Nothing spectacular. The second kind is much more profound and _cannot_ be invoked by the will: it's when the Silence hears _you._ Completely different phenomena. I've long-given up hope that I'll ever experience that again. So be it. Beer helps.
@PraisingWithFriends
@PraisingWithFriends 4 года назад
I would be envious for stillness.
@456quip
@456quip 2 года назад
Just listen to the sound of my voice… and s l o w l y become the silence… Deliciously hypnotic ❤️
@ladypenelope99
@ladypenelope99 3 года назад
Why does my mind attack me? Because you are a sinner, like us all. You have the human problem of sin in you, Daniel. That’s why Jesus came and died, to save us from our sins. John, Jesus did not mean resist not evil when we are dealing with our own sin, the flesh and the devil. We are meant to fight it, with His strength and only with His strength can we do that. On the other hand, Jesus did say resist not evil when someone (a person) does wrong to us, i.e. don’t retaliate. ‘But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also’ (Matthew 5:39 KJV) You have to look at the context of scripture.
@AmarjitSinghDhaliwalDrDhali
@AmarjitSinghDhaliwalDrDhali 4 года назад
' The mind pops up ! ' The ever present stillness or silence simply remains ever present . Hahahaha . Like a bubble the mind pops and it is gone . 😀😃😄
@Jesuswalks7475
@Jesuswalks7475 4 года назад
There's a scripture in the bible that says be still and know that I am God.
@React_Sessions
@React_Sessions 3 года назад
When I try and listen behind the sounds I just hear a ringing in my head. Is that silence?
@scott7373
@scott7373 4 года назад
"The Power of Now" (by Eckhart Tolle) talks extensively about this
@Moonlightrecapsofficial
@Moonlightrecapsofficial 4 года назад
"How can you argue about silence"
@Sara-ho8qu
@Sara-ho8qu 4 года назад
God & Evil are equal both combination of one
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