The Deserved Self-Destruction of Linus Tech Tips 

It shows true colours of Linus and how deeply rotten LTT's corporate culture is

They literally stole it

@@shanearnold2854 and then auctioned it off to another potential company that could clone it to make for 3090ti's themselves. If billet labs patented that copper block, LTT is not going to have any money.

Practicing to get that $500 he needs.

for the record billet labs said they could keep it. but than changed their mind and wanted it back. than after being told they could get it back the changed their mind and wanted money is what i heard although even without the second part the first part makes this a understandable mistake, had the original plan been to send it back instead of keep it it would or never been auctioned. it was a kind of indian giving/ give take back thing but they had mistakeinly auctioned huge stupid mistake but thats what it is it was not malicious intent like many claim at first the prototype was for lunus to keep. that aside i am not on linuses side dude only cares about money and is fake puts no effort in videos its just make as much crap as you can as fast as you can just stick to the formula and use random graphs and post it because we only care about views nothing and no one else

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I read that - without thought - with Linus' voice in my head 😂

It wasn't their "one and only" prototype; it was their best one.

Also known as their only one, if that was the only one they had at the current development then that is the only one they had, other prototypes before it are redundant.@@Okurka.

@@nathanleigh3486 Billet Labs specifically stated that it was their best one, not their only one.

How does product prototyping work if i may ask, and why would past prototypes be redundent? Never looked into the process myself.

Shut up@@Okurka.

i hate channels that wear their abuse for their workers on their sleeve, but pass it off as a joke. it's like trying to hide it in plain sight, but it's still actually pretty obvious

​@@Basil_lefta great manager wouldn't handle that in front of audiance, if that is an intern thing (like it was) and he wouldn't say that he is to incompetent, but he would say that in his position and with his skill now he is unqualified. Sometimes it is just about how and when u say things like that, what majes u a great manager. Because if u do it like this, it will cause a bad working climate, what in the end will end in less quality of the workers. Not only will good workers go somewhere else (i mean if i have a choice why sgould i pick someone like that) even the employes that already there will work often signifcantly more inefficient. And u can do what u want about that, but a bad working climate will cause that. Its psychological. When do u think can u work best? Somewhere where u feel good or somewhete where u feel uncomfortable?

@@Basil_leftAnd that's the reason for insulting him in front of an audience? Putting him down? That's bad management FYI.

@@Basil_left oh so you're that kind of bad manager (assuming you are - I hope not - in a position of management) and are missing the entire point of the post. Got it.

Narcissism

It still dumbfounds me to think that anyone's got the audacity to take someone else's product, credibility, and even possibly _livelihood_ in their hands to review and then try to justify what a horrid job of the review they've done by saying it'd have cost them what'd amount to a small percentile of what said review would earn them in gain... At that point, Linus might as well have said "Don't buy this turd because we can't be bothered by fact checking if it's made of gold", ruining a small company's image in the process, and then, doing ANYTHING BUT returning that PROTOTYPE to its OWNER. I mean, sociopath-level mentality going on there... Sheesh.

@@RAW_RealityIf your company went down because a bad review on a prototype, then you’re an absolute idiot shouldn’t be starting a company in the first place. I mean who da fuk stupid enough to invest the company’s and their own entire fortune on a prototype cooler? Did you think before saying that?

Even more horrible is selling prototype unit sent by a small company, when community asked why., Linus literally said " haha We don't sell it, we actually auctioned it & took money. I mean it's literally the definition of robbery.

it also makes zero sense, because its not even true. They wouldn't be spending an extra $500 to do that anyway, just $500 worth of time. They're all getting paid a salary, likely with "reasonable" overtime stipulations

Can't afford to retest a part? That's literally what they do. They probably would have gotten hundreds of thousands of views on a retest. It's just arrogance on Linus's part, since he tested the part.

It takes years to build up trust and a good reputation but it only takes a second to destroy it all.

@@specialsause949, but luckily it takes a bit longer to auction it.

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In reality Linus pride and ego was out of control that was his true demise

Little tiny megalomaniac

and people pays for it while you're just whining in the comment section and can't even pay for a bread

@@theunknown7441 : "and people pays for it" Prove it.

Tragic fate of a bully victim 😢

​@@milagrosalfonso2501 I know who did this but yeah hurt people...... hurt people

It happens to a lot of nerds or socially struggling guys who go ultra successful early. They miss those important 20's 30's maturation years. That's how we got Elon Musk. He's too busy to develop past 23

Wait this was on the news up there? That's crazy.

@@computaterjones Yep. If you google Linus Tech Tips CBC, it'll show up.

National news?! Wow. That's a VERY expensive 500 CAD

He will see it all as free advertising. Viewership will increase with his name getting thrown out there.

Honestly, they probably thought they'd just make up everything they lost in a few months.

And this is a man with 15 MILLION subscribers and usually at least 600k views on each of their 25 videos a week. Inb4 some Linus fanatics come commenting how many employees he has to pay as if that wasn’t his decision to make.

That's one video I for one can overlook, no where in it because it wasn't a product deep dive, it was litteraly just: is it easy to use, and does it have a market. Other videos, that did do deep dives, is fairgame for Steve Bitterapple to complain about. That is fairgame...at least to apoint. IMO this little more than a school yard squable and my daddy can stomp your groin harder. If want to talk about being professional, and conjenial and bluntly just doing the right thing, that'd have been Steve Burke calling and having a private friend to friend chat. not, you know, taking a dump on that friend, for how they run their business on a public forum. that's not at all cool, or ethical. You call them up and say: not cool to dunk on Hardware on boxed, or me, what the fuck is going on man? you know my channel is better deep dives than yours, so what's up? that's the professional and just done way to do things. ie keep the drama behind closed doors where it belongs.

To think that all it took was this one LTT associate bragging during a lab tour about how well they test new hardware unlike Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed. And then allowing that line to make it onto an official upload. I wonder what the staff members responsible for this feel kickstarting a flurry of criticism against the company they work for.

Not even that part but that they wouldn't test it with the correct component the cooler was designed for it.

@@gorkskoal9315 Here's the thing, it's worse than if they fucked up a regular review to me. It's the only glimpse or source of information on a small company most viewers will ever see, especially given how they mishandled the prototype so badly. They have a responsibility to evaluate the product properly, not just to billet labs, but to their viewers, and all the work they've put into building a reputation over the years. They've potentially ruined a small company off a snap judgement and done it while farcially failing at properly testing the item in question. Then to add injury to injury, auctioned off the prototype to buyers they haven't managed to track down and retrieve the prototype from. Then, rather than acknowledge the understandable if unacceptable breach of care that resulted in this, they attempted to shift blame to multiple parties they have injured through their slander and libel. They could have resolved the situation at any point by picking any number of other choices. Like cutting the conclusions when they were in fact informed that a 4090 was not expected to function correctly, and making it an initial hands on video without placing incorrect numbers from an invalid test, retesting it properly, or any number of decisions, including just scrapping the video if it's really not worth spending any more money on it. Steve calling them out publicly is honestly the least they can expect when they also publicly state that their careless testing is better than theirs. The people who made the entire thing public was LMG, not GN. You don't sit back and let a 'friend' try to destroy your life's work, since you have their phone number. No, you stand up for yourself, slap them in the face, and ask them what the actual hell are they thinking, and then give them the reason you suck speech.

I think that is normal and humanly to see the own advantage first, some are mature enough to preserve their integrity over the profit, some just don't...

I think it's more complicated then that. Despite what your average internet chauvinista thinks. Running a business is actually incredibly difficult. Hiring, pay roll, product development, employee management, ect, ect... So much goes into it that most people who try fail and, many of those that succeed only do so because they figure out a way to "cheat". Basically I am saying you assume greed. However drowning men will grab onto anything to stay afloat. Dude thought that because he could do something relatively simple like run a youtube channel. He could run a business. Not so friendo you don't have the skill stack required.

​@@user-dc2zh2il3wit's still greed in that scenario, because he chose to actively harm others to stay afloat

My favorite era was when he first moved out of the house-office and started building out the first warehouse and sets.

You’re smarter than most

LTT is fine with employees taking products from the shelves tho. It's good environment they work in, they don't maliciously steal company property and 3090 is a 3 year old product! Why are they making 800 dollar copperware for it? And I totally agree with Linus approach to this shit product, make it a joke as it is. 800 for piece of copper? Get the fuck out.

Must be Dennis.

Also they received the 3090 Ti from Billet Labs, so the 3090 Ti they lost wasn't even their property. I think this is what happens when you grow a company too quickly, I knew Linus Media Group was going to run into these issues eventually I'm just surprised it took this long.

God, I'm insane. I read "...they didn't use the 3090 ... because THEY LOST IT..." and thought they managed to lose an entire mainframe before remembering that it's talking about a video card.

You would think that you would have everything you need before you start the video. If you don't, don't do the video.

The big majority of his audience is completely brain damaged, so I'm not too worried about him. I'm sure he could stab a little kitten with his screwdriver live on RU-vid and most of these people would still defend him and watch his videos.

Trust is big, but so is sticking to provable facts, and bringing single-sourced accusations into this is poor form IMO. One person making an uncorroborated claim is not relevant and a "witness" of hearsay is not really a witness at all.

@@CAHSR2020 cope

@@CAHSR2020all ex-lmg employees that said something on the matter are supporting her claims

Considering they've been breaking trust and his community has just been forgiving him every time, this was just a water balloon waiting to explode

how many other channels will colab with him now? long term this will have and effect

@@Revkor Doubt it.

​@@Revkor2 more weeks

Their views are way down and they have smaller sponsors. They are alive, but they didn't recover.

​@DemonLordSparda they consistently got over 1 million views over the past 10 days. I want the crack you're smoking.

It does. It absolutely does

@@NoraNekos7no they were just unable to do what they really wanted

@@Annoye sure, so all people who are suddenly given power were just assholes even before that. riiiiiiiiiight. makes tooooooooootal sense. mhm

@@NoraNekos7 true

both are wrong. money doesnt change people, the path to gaining it does

That was my thought to, Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed have some of the most accurate and comprehensive reviews of products.

I've seen it excused by pointing out that the "we're better than GN and HuB" statement was from a tour of LTT labs and published on a third party's YT channel. Still a sign of systemic BS at LMG that the guy even thought to say it.

@@SansNeural To add another layer to it, think about if thats how they talk when not intending for it to be public, but still comfortably saying to strangers. It kind of paints a not great picture.

I can imagine Gamers Nexus when they saw the RU-vid video going full on Robert Downey Jr, Sherlock Holmes calculating the exact point to strike and how long it will take for LTT to recover.

It was a hidden call for help from the staff at LTT labs.

Wait, Billet Labs sent them the cooling block AND the card?

@@tonyblox Yup, they apparently never gave the card back either if I remember the GN video right

@@monkeyman767 Yep, that's what I recall my housemate saying, too. Just sheer freaking laziness. Or wilful disingenuity.

@@tonyblox Yep they did.

I'm just wondering who stole that card from the office at this point, if they couldn't manage to have it around... XD

Did they also discover a way to make copper more thermally conductive or find an infinite refined copper supply? If not the product still isn't worth it

​@@zachmondial2172it not being worth it can only be said after installing the product correctly. While I agree it's not, it's still a mark of shitty work ethics to just, use the wrong card with it and call it absolute shit.

@aveugleman2188 do I have to test out a Gucci belt to say it isn't worth it? It quite literally can't perform better than cheaper products but cost 100s to 1000s of times as much. Why because it's cool not because the value it provides.

@@zachmondial2172 and if your job, that you did for more than 10 years, was to be thorough about belt testing? And that someone sends you one, with the specific pants to use it on, and you manage to lose said pants, complain about not wanting to retest because it would cost you 500 bucks when your entire company is worth hundreds of millions? You'd become a total joke in your field. Same as Linux did.

@@zachmondial2172 *_"Did they also discover a way to make copper more thermally conductive..."_* You make it sound like that's the only way to increase cooling performance. It's not, not by a long shot.

The Billet Labs thing was bullshit. Billet sent it to them never stating it was to be returned

@@ziegfeld4131 doesn't matter. they agreed to return it while they still had it

@@ziegfeld4131: "Billet sent it to them never stating it was to be returned" Who at Billet Labs told you that?

as well as "companies are not your friends" and many other quotes of him that have now aged very poorly. Pretty much anything hes ever said on wan show really.

Which with Linus is always go on the attack and not actually fix things. Been around for too much of this shit over the years from him specifically.

"I don't know what cost less, your sandals or your integrity!" _~Steve Burke, GN @The Roast_ :D

But now we know that companies that felt slighted, betrayed, or lied on had good reason. He was lying for the data and destroying reputation.

He put out a video yesterday to reply to the issue. He never admitted to any mistakes and never said sorry.

They should have kept posting videos. Keep making content and you'll make it thru

cought part ... so true :D second one .. I would bet they are done. but who knows we live in a really retarded world

​@@MikeTsBeesthey probably just took a week for a break, and to review their next 2 weeks to make sure there are less errors lol.

Most of their problems are from speed, and that is why Linus is acting so annoyed. It is something that is stopping him from kicking out content. They're trying to grow like they've always grown: Kick out more and more. However, they are big enough that they are facing diminishing returns. Now throw in the fact they are spending a ton of money on the lab and hiring people to run the labs. The pressures are just all there and this falling down would be inevitable. But even so, man did they crash hard. I hope they can right the ship.

That's the part a lot of their fanbois don't understand. It's not just the public they've lost credibility with. What they did to Billet is gonna have a lot of companies giving second thoughts to working with them.

Who knows... Sadly Linus still has a massive cultist following, so it's hard to turn down any chance to let them review your product knowing that they have such massive audience and have always been, for some reason, seen as the way to go for reviews, an "authority" in the tech media.

Umm idk about that. If LTT had the numbers, small companies will still send them things because of that alone. We'll see though, only time will tell. I will say this does kind of suck, I watch LTT actually watched them for quite a long time now, so to see all this is a bit of a bummer. It's like watching a show you like only to find out it's not going to be picked up for another season haha

i genuinely thought this was going to be the ‘Hard R’ thing

And you speak for them ALL.

Why would you SHAME a small company ever for taking an opportunity like that in the future with one of the biggest channels on the platform? What an insane stand to take. "Fuck you if you ever work with X for whatever reason or benefit, because I hate them now"

It's NOT OKAY for others to do it. It's completely okay for us to do it☺️

Well they also criticized GN to begin with, by claiming they did better reviews than them and always tested with new data, which was a flat lie.

@@larion2336GN is boring and steve is a clown at best with a voice that drives people mad and most people admit they click for graphs and mute the rest but people fully watch linus from start to finish so ya LTT does better reviews

@@Mattscreative Look at you, showing off big boy pants.

​@@MattscreativeBuuuuut - LTT/LMG even admitted their tech reviews were openly based on incorrect data and with no professional attempt to MAKE them properly correct even when time allowed (watch the apology vid and don't talk to me about subtitles, LTT have admitted these weren't good enough) - so what you're saying is you'd rather be entertained than told the truth? Legitimately interested at this point. I've enjoyed LTT since the start but the bigger he got the more arrogant and disconnected he became; the Billet "review"- from the first scene - was an exercise in arrogance, ignorance, poor management, poor film-making and poor prep. He walked into the studio that day with almost no real prior knowledge of the product, where the team hadn't properly prepped and even admitted they'd done the pre-testing on different equipment than what they gave Linus - and rather than call bullshit on the testing he brushed it off as Billet's problem while also taking, at one point, power tools to the WRONG-SIZED components to make it all fit - that was not journalism, or even a review; that was open egotism and sensationalist broadcasting. A review is where shop-bought components are used to provide real-world data to end consumers, so we know what we can expect when WE buy therm. Also Billet provided the correct GPU along with the cooling block for testing - but the GPU was lost while in LTT possession so they didn't have it available when filming - so LTT decided to test the cooler on the wrong GPU, which Billet are quoted as saying "might work but was untested" (the 4090 has a marked increase in heat output, which LTT didn't acknowledge while also slating the cooler and their poor test results - Billet DO have a cooler designed for the 4090 but this wasn't it) - so the entire exercise was flawed beyond belief. Linus did, at least, note Billet's ingenuity - but this was sent to LTT as a PROTOTYPE - you don't review a prototype, in much the same way as a game in alpha- or beta-testing should not be reviewed in the same manner as the 1.0 release. Billet sent the cooler to LTT looking for constructive feedback; instead their product got bombed - and let's not even talk about the legality of the auction. GN is NOT an entertainment platform - it's a REVIEW AND INFORMATION PLATFORM. And yeah, Steve IS boring - he provides flat, scientific, mathematical research data, as accurately as he can, for those that need it and want it. Occasionally he's borderline autistic in the attention to detail which can be overloading and off-putting for many. If that's not for you or me, then fair play - but at least he's honest, and the graphs are useful. All RU-vidrs who monetise their content have bias - we ALL have bias - but GN at least try to negate that to whatever degree, however successfully. I watch Steve and Hardware Unboxed for information, when I REALLY need to know data - I tend to watch LTT and Jayz2C for the entertainment - but where Jayz2C crosses the border between entertainment and info, Linus has become more and more about the drama and the shock value and to hell with any semblance of realism or reality - all LMG's output is now monetized - they are a MEDIA group now, not just a tech review channel. Just in case you had doubts about Linus' motivations: LTT's much-hyped screwdriver is $70 - did it ever occur to you that you can buy the on eBay for $5 with more attachments but without the logo - or even from your local hardware store? The dude is a shill, and if he can entertain you out of your money then he's won, and that's become the entire point of LMG - it's a media group after all - the tech is now a side-line, even in the name. But hey - a least you're entertained, right? I've just noticed that you also have a RU-vid channel. Congrats on the 20k subs - do you aim to inform, or entertain? It's an important decision. The reason so many people are so angry is that Linus is still portraying himself as a source of information - he doesn't acknowledge that he's become an entertainer instead and is really just going after the money. It's no coincidence that LMG was valued at $100,000,000. And this is why people feel betrayed.

Right? I noticed it when he did the "trust me, bro" thing with his backpack. Beware of people preaching one and doing the opposite.

Imo it started with the "adblocking is piracy" (hint: it's not). He made it clear that he is business first, tech youtuber second, (and what is most important) community 3rd. Nobody asked him to become as big as he is, or spin off so many channels. He is a scummy business owner now just right the rest of them. It doesn't matter what steps are being taken to fix this. He has doubled down so many times on his idiocy. I know he won't, but he deserves to fail and lose his business.

​@@thauraneDidn't he walk that one back?

Most of the time these angry guy calling everybody incompetant informe more about the guy than the world. My read flag was their power supply test that was so wrong, OMG.

Oathbreaker Paladin in BG3 ~

Same here man. I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to tech or computers, so when I'm trying to find out if something is worth my money or I just need tech tips, I have to rely on people who know more about things than I do. I stopped watching LTT when it became clear to me that I can't rely on what they're saying, and it certainly didn't help that Linus was lowkey treating his employees like garbage on screen and seemed just like the worst boss I ever had.. the one who got visibly irritated and annoyed by the slightest mistake (or someone simply saying something he didn't like). Linus clearly let all the fame and money go to his head, and to nobody's surprise it made the content worse. This was just the final nail in the coffin for me. I can't trust anything this guy says anymore after seeing so many lies and attemps to avoid responsibility, and even if I could I wouldn't want to support yet another egotistical idiot who thinks his success is all due to his own brilliance. LTT will keep churning out millions, but at least I won't have to be there to contribute to it.

It's almost required to be a scumbag and be willing to fuck people over to be as successful as he is. Even on RU-vid, channels being successful by giving actual useful information is so rare. Gamers Nexus should be the one with 15m subs. LTT is a joke

"Trust me bro"

@@DaHitch It just works?

As a guy who knows screwdrivers, he could have bought the 52 in one made in upstate NY and doubled his money for $20 less to customer cost and skipped all the bullshit. I was a tech and became an engineer. I can tell right quick if a tool you have is a good one for doing service work or not. Linus did no one a service with that POS screwdriver. Its just an overpriced fleecing of his followers.

Why so much hate? Looks like everyone has a choice. Don’t watch it. You feel you can do better then do better.

Nor could they take their apology video seriously. If there is one video you really shouldn't be shilling your store on, it's the one where you are apologizing for a major mistake.

@@nendymionat least they didn't pull out the ukulele

What? I've watched him for a long time and he has done plenty of videos on budget hardware, shoot the old build off videos where they only get a small amount of money and have to source what they can to build a competitive gaming computer against the other teams were good. Another thing is with LTT they've always had that joke aspect to them, like to make things funny. Yes of course they've reviewed and done more with the top tier components, that's what companies send they send the newest and greatest products and expect LTT or other brands to review and promote them. I'm not trying to make excuses for LTT and nothing I'm talking about has anything to do with what this video was about, just giving my 2 cents to what you said. Side note did you ever build that PC? Have you upgraded since then?

Oh, you're too fragile to hear honest opinions of computer parts, and you start to cry when you imagine "looming smugness" as though that's an intelligent thing to say? There's plenty of stuff to criticize about these guys but you're just whining about total nonsense based in your own fragility. Sounds like you don't have the strength to brave the internet or the world outside your front door. Oh my god, he criticized computer parts! So smug! And it's so important to call him smug!

Bitwit and PC centric helped me easily understand and build my PC. PC builder, Daniel Owens, Paul's hardware, bitwit, and hardware unboxed have great reviews and help you find discounts. I, like you, moved away from Linus farely quickly and jayztwocents as well.

I think my breaking point was when they did a list of "best budget notebooks for students" thing and every single machine was in the thousands of dollars. The entire channel is just completely removed from reality.

In the end the channel still basically belongs to a company so it makes sense why they would grease up certain cards or cpus to be better than others as it’s just marketing strats.

Hmm almost like there wasn’t legal recourse for them. Weird. 🤔

crazy as f. dudes a scumbag

@@rrxyzrr What's wrong with being effeminate? You're saying it as if something's wrong with it.

​@@drakesilmore3760psst... it's low key calling someone a phag.

You do realize the original deal was they didn't have to give anything back, the were asked to and agreed that's when the problem started, they were under no legal obligation to do so.

Reminds me of when he bought a niche movie camera and complained that it wasn't optimized to shoot hardware reviews. He just looked at the price tags and assumed the most expensive camera was de-facto the best for his needs.

clearly...he spent a lot of money rebuilding his home ultra-tech mega wifi super air-con to...throw it away and buy a mansion with pool that wouldn't be out of place in a Miami Vice episode...this pretty much matched when the content got worse and he started saying disgusting things, disrepecting his employees in front of everyone

His responses have been like someone who has become a little Hitler and is now out of his depth when dealing with people who don't answer to him

@@fredEVOIX or buying an expensive oversized lab that'll end up being a money sink, just like Floatplane is.

@@fredEVOIX He did what-now? I had a roomie who was obsessed with his tech home makeover series, and he just threw it away sometime after finishing the house? That's actually insane, people dream about getting to build the ultimate dream home through sponsorships and their success, and this guy said "nah, it's overrated" after getting it I guess?

yeah i have the same thoughts. Billet Labs probably could have a case(not a Lawyer for the record), but i doubt they have the money to fight it in court.

HELLO YOU!

It's even worse, Billet set a 3090 card for them to test with and they misplaced it.

It's amazing how many corners of youtube I find you in😁

I miss your videos that mention Molineux

Stop hating. He still has more money than you sooooo.... 🤷

@@raynel8495 Oh whoopdee shit. My neighbour's cat has more money than me but unlike linus it is honest and friendly. Money just allows you to buy crap and linus appears to have been buying lots of that because he is so full of it. Et tu -Brutus- @raynel? 🤷‍♂

Influence is power, no word change necessary.

Going that hard against it, especially after being proven he tested it just 100% wrong, tells me he's getting paid by someone else. He can't upset a sponsor that actually pays him that's probably competing with Billet Labs

You’re 100% right about everything that matters, but I don’t think two guys counts as “many people”.

​@@robsomethin4415 You're overthinking this. The answer is much simpler: pride. Linus is like pride personified at the moment, just listen to how he talks and read what he writes, the dude thinks he literally can do no wrong. He'll drag his company into the ground with him before he admits he's wrong. And that's probably what will eventually happen unless he takes his head out of his behind and realizes he's become a colossal bellend.

Linus gives up on products and rarely reads the instructions, he says stuff makes no sense and no one should buy it all the time (usually he is correct on those calls), if they didn’t want Linus’s unvarnished opinion they should have sent it to someone else. If you want a $800 waterblock it is likely to be because it is pretty and Linus’s opinion isn’t going to sway you. As long as they made it obvious they tried to fit it to the wrong card it is more like a video of their old shenanigans than a serious review. as far as I know They don’t usually auction off the prototypes they were supposed to return so that was new.

@@robsomethin4415 It's probably more he didn't want to admit he was wrong and annoyed at all the people pointing it out he went whole hog in making it out to be bad.

“Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”-Friedrich Nietzsche

@@Lord_RFAS "You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." -Harvey Dent

@@spinlock1785 If you think that you're a fool. You don't know the history of it at all. They've definitely lost perspective, but they're working on that. We'll see what's come of it towards the end of the year.

@@spinlock1785 that's not true. When he first started out on his own with Luke they cared more than any one else in the space. They were extremally passionate and cared about the audience. That obviously isn't the case now however.

@@AtotehZYou haven't met Linus in real life or at any event have you? Try and talk to him without having a channel with a million subs or more and see what happens. I've seen him shut down so many fans that tried to talk with him because they weren't "popular" youtubers or business contacts. Go check out what TechYES has to say about Linus and LTT. His video spot on mimics what I see first-hand.

Yeah if you ever make a mistake at your job you should be fired and never be allowed to do your job again because it is clear that nobody should listen to your advice. Do you see the insanity that your line of terrible reasoning leads to?

​@@thomgizzizit's not just a mistake. It was a massive, inexcusable oversight from the people who are suppose to be the best in the business. Now, I'll admit, they shouldn't be fired for an oversight like that (I don't think the original comment said anything about people being fired). But they should have fixed the video instead of just putting a pinned comment and leaving the video up. A mistake is one thing. Failing to do a extremely simple thing a tech RU-vidr should know, uploading the video, realize the mistake but not remove the video is the issue. The fact that they made the mistake is concerning. The fact they didn't fix the video is inexcusable and points to a lack of quality control and basic knowledge from the people who are suppose to be the best of the best

@@googleit1131 If I recall correctly they even tried to deny it first when manufacturer of the mouse brought that up.

First thing I do when buying a mouse is look for any and all protection film. And if it still feels weirdly on the surface when moving, second thing I do is look for any I might have missed, especially on the feet. Been doing that since mice had balls to clean. It's really not that hard.

It's probably cause theyre so rushed and under a tight schedule; Dumb stuff like this happens and it affects their credibility. Very idiotic and hearing their employees speak on what they would like to see changed in the company, they arent even high demands. Companies really lose when they stop listening to their employees and treating them like disposable objects. I mean, just look at most gaming companies...

But if you can corner a rabid fanbase then youll survive

Yeah it's like gravity: it'll accellerate you to the ground--the ground (truth) will stop you instantly, brutally. I always thought this guy looked a bit slimy, like a love rat or worse, and deffo a spiv type, that most of all.

Only if you've been dishonest from the start

He still has 15.4 million subs. 15.4 million little meat riders who gobble up his corny antics and misinformation like it's your mom's ass.

So very true.

How is it defamation to say a shit product is shit? How is it theft when Billet Labs gave Linus the product in the first place? 🤡 use your brain.

lmao

@@lurch789 haha bull shit. Also, Billet Labs thing was a joke company making a crap product.

It doesn't matter if they were or not. That's just not the problem. The complete unprofessionalism from LTT is the problem. They should be held to a much higher standard.

@@KodakYarr No one should be buying that crap product anyways. Overpriced even if it performed well.

I do wonder who had bought the prototype and if there's a way for the company to get it back from the buyer. But I wouldn't be surprised if it were already in some Red-Flagged Asian Country.

@@lolly166541 Billet Labs already addressed this, that LTT was eventually able to track down the buyer (who was an individual, not a company/potential competitor), and when Billet Labs were made aware, they declined to buy it back mainly because they had already spent the funds into remaking the prototype again, and also because they didn't trust that LMG could actually get hold of the prototype and ship it back to BL in a timely manner (also evidenced by the fact that LMG still at the time had not returned the 3090TI that BL had sent them together with the waterblock for the video). Basically they told LMG "don't bother, we don't trust you can be efficient about this and our time is worth more than yours so you can keep it, we have already moved on).

@@lolly166541i would be surprised

Obviously I don't know anything about your situation, or Billet Labs' situation, but why would someone hand off their prototype if they don't have another, or cant afford to replace it? No judgement here, hindsight is 20/20 and all that, and this is coming 100% from an outside perspective. From your comment it sounds like you were having someone make a component, and then it was never delivered and the maker denied responsibility, which is different from how the Billet Labs situation seems, where they just gave LTT the only copy of that cooler in existence, for free, with only a handshake agreement that it would be returned. Not to judge Billet Labs, we obviously don't know everything that happened or was said, but I definitely would not be that trusting with my business as them.

Lost. He sold them when you weren't looking

same

He’s not the only one. All of their channels have videos and hosts with absolute dogshit takes on so many things and shitty attitudes. I liked them at first but they’ve gotten dumber and dumber with their shit takes and bad journalism more and more. It sucks that the people there that aren’t shitty people have to suffer over this, whomever they may be, but I’d love to see LMG go down. They won’t recover from this and neither should they, they’ve been doing this stuff for far too long and getting away with it.

I blame Canadians

Yup, same here .. used to watch his stuff a few years back then realised I couldn't stand the guy's growing arrogance and something just started to feel a bit 'off' about the channel .... turns out that gut feelings are often quite accurate ....

Same here! It started as a good channel with interesting content about hardware and then moved into a shitshow of hedgelords talking out of their assses.

And if they had not done it, they would have been accused of that too....

@@gerhard.seemueller no my point is they emailed everyone and lied to them. They didn't need it for tax reasons but they were trying to find who purchased the waterblock without telling people that.

@@Hellfire8 TBF they had no idea if it did go to a competitor or not *before* sending out the emails. You think if it was bought by a competitor they'd be willing to say "hey, yea we have it"? Not a chance in hell. But that being said, it shouldn't of even been out in public...period. Let alone the fact that LTT just...didn't record who was buying what because they expected the charity runners to do it? When it's not their job? If that isn't a sign of major systematic problems I don't know what is.

@@8BitShadow I agree with you, loads of systematic failures from within LTT, but lying to their fans and attendees about why they're asking you for your personal information (name address/ what you purchased) in the UK at least that would be dangerous grounds for GDPR.

@@gerhard.seemueller boy you are full of horrible takes

Yeah, they took something that wasn't theirs, and gave it to someone else. How they got the money for that and what they did with it is irrelevant at that point. If I rob a bank and then took the money I stole and gave it to charity, I'm still guilty of bank robbery.

"i pledged the money"

the argument wasnt "we auctioned it not sold it" it was "we didnt sell it for profit, we auctioned it for charity" just somewhat badly worded tbf booth are bad.. one is objectivly more bad(the sold for profit one) like once again, its a bad situation, and they REALLY need a better system for stuff like that.... But one is just objectivly a far worse outcome in terms of image damage

I would be cautious with the madison stuff since there hasnt been any proof for anything she said yet

@@kaiserfranzjoseph9311 there's little probably. No one wants to talk there

True. There was absolutely no excuse to not have a 3090ti handy when they were GIVEN one to test with.

Sad really, understandable from your son's pov. Goes to show that one of the quotes from Superman and Lois is true in that trust is tested every time, and "once you break it, it takes a lot longer to heal than a broken wrist" (and if I may add, maybe even unrecoverable) (Show is called Superman and Lois, Season 1 Episode 6) I am guessing that he lost faith when the controversy of the billet labs happened? And if possible if you can answer, why doesn't he give them a chance? For me I can understand the shortcoming of what LTT did during the time, but as for writing this comment, I think they have recovered mostly

If this also happens to a tester, many customers will also leave the stickers on and return the product disappointed. This is actually valuable feedback for the manufacturer. But no, LTT is evil right now, so we look for every hair in the soup. Intent! Fraud! ARGH!

Well it's not like they are knowlegdeable at tech or something, how on heaven did you expect them to figure out something so complicated

@@gerhard.seemueller which you conveniently leave out the part that the company sponsor, yes, did tell them this and did find it useful info, *but asked them to redo parts talking about how bad its grip was because it wasn't accurate. Whiiiiiiiiich LTT refused to.* but nice try attempting to downplay how stupid that was bud.

@@8BitShadow Hm, I haven't read anything about that so far, and that would be rather difficult in a finished video. You can't just cut in completely new scenes that were shot later. I find the annotations in the video or in the comments, as LTT usually uses them, quite transparent, because you see both the original and the corrected version.

@@gerhard.seemueller And if a customer makes this mistake and leaves the tape on they might have a slightly bad time for a little while but they can still...take it off later. It's a dumb mistake that's incredibly easy to fix. This is not an excuse.

From what I gather He thought he had worked out how useful it was for the price aggravation etc from what he had seen and he didn’t think any level of performance it would become worthwhile. For old LTT when they were doing all the testing etc mostly for entertainment that would have just been a video of their usual ineptitude. Like dropping water into a server they were making, dropping the CPUs, stabbing it with a screwdriver and then attempting to keep it running long enough to benchmark it. It clashes with The image they have been trying to build recently and they probably should only be doing that sort of stuff when the project and not the hardware is the focus.

@@glenecollins Old LTT would have still tested it with the intended card AND then tested it on something stupid like the 4090 in the video. And then probably would have hooked it into the whole room water cooling system lol or left it outside in the rain, take your pick XD

​@@glenecollins You're in every comment thread defending Linus. Think I found an LTT employee guys. No one else would have this much blind support.

@@mromutt I don’t think Linus has ever done a snow cooled PC how un-Canadian of him. I thought they did the tests for the episode on the thing they built on screen most of the time and they made some pretty janky rigs. But you are probably right if they had a product they would usually have put it in a test rig and done official benchmarks in a previous show and for listing on the website.

@@Notpoop906 or are you a sock puppet from the LTT haters association? Only a sock puppet would be called notpoop 😜

wait wait wait Linux is doing sexual harassment what does that have to do with tech at all? I am so confused😭😭😭

but i saw a few comments defending Linus and start mocking Internet Anarchist who also a made the same vid

Truly, this would never have blown up if not for that one offhand comment taking a shot at a less popular fellow tech youtuber. A blunder for the history books. The employee who did it is going to be so screwed now, but he unintentionally did a great favor both to Billet Labs and to his past and current coworkers who've suffered abuse at the company. Now that the genie is out, it's going to be hard to silence further public accusations of misconduct.

@@SovietReunionYT to be fair GN has never practiced proper journalistic practices. But none of these youtubers ever do.

@@darschpugs4690 I mean journalism is basically dead, 'journalists' are the biggest jokes around nowadays. Most are just propagandists of one ilk or another.

He's lucky that he just got a sunburn playing icarus flying into the sun.

lol what?@@darschpugs4690

I would say money is more like alcohol.

@@mromutt I would say alcohol costs money

​@@mromuttI would say alcohol is more like a poision that binds to gaba A, nmda, VGCC, 5ht3 and blocks b1 absorption. money Dosen't do that

Anthony! We're looking at you, big guy. I watch everything Anthony makes. If he did his own Linux thing and left LTT, I'd sub to him alone.

​@@Klokinator btw Anthony came out as trans (and is now Emily)

I will agree that the other host on his channel are great every time Emily (formerly Anthony) had a video I knew there was going to be information but you could always tell it was rushed.

@@formbioh… well that’s a surprise. Hope she gets treated well at LMG, considering the circumstances…

The same exact fate befell on RoosterTeeth with quantity over quality after going Public. It looks like its obvious to just prioritize objective quality for the most healthy dynamic, though money and/or greed warps that balance in the worst ways

a testament that will hold up for the rest of humaity.

I disagree. Linus is too big to fail. They lost like 200k subs, who cares, they have millions. 95% of people wont stop watching them and therefor supporting them. This is nothing in the grand scheme of things and will be forgotten in 3 months.

Nothing is too big to fail in general.

Except the Paul's. How many scams and scumbaggery have those two been involved in?

Internet? This happens in real life. People see others get big and they get jealous and want to tear them apart. Right now nobody is looking at Gamers Nexus and he isn't perfect but the shit show he started has done nothing but benefit him, and he has pulled this internet drama bs before, he isn't a good guy either. You are just doing the same thing humanity does from the beginning of time, you see somebody who has more than you, you get jealous and you join the mob to rip them apart, the mob that was usually started by somebody that wants to take their place. This whole time you feel justified and that you are intelligent, when the opposite is usually true.

They resolved the situation! You're just out of the loop, don't have the most recent information. But I'm not going to judge you for that, because I understand that you're capable of changing your mind based on new information (as Linus is), and when you realize that Linus has righted his wrongs, you're going to feel silly and uninformed. That's punishment enough.

source: trust me, bro

​@@A38Hey look, it's Linus' alt account!

​@@A38🤡

@@A38 who is this clown?

Linus has not surpassed those things, corporations cannot afford to acknowledge mistakes (usually) and will go as far as settling out of court to reach those ends. Linus DID correct his mistakes, and also literally can't afford NOT to correct his mistakes. So what are you still angry about? Did he remove you from his Christmas card list when he became too big? Do YOU run the startup you're licking boot for?

It's almost like it's the situation that people are in which dictates their behavior, and not the other way around

Just projecting all the time what his moral compass is.

He was atleast not lying, when he admitted at some point, that LMG also is just a company and not the viewers friend... I think that was even during one of the hot takes against Nvidia, back when they tried to force all brands to create sub-brands for AMD cards (like Asus did with AREZ)

"Except the corporations who pay me and send me loads of free hardware and the corporations which provide the platform for me to profit"

This is soo true. I have stopped watching LMG content for serious analysis in maybe 2017, 2018? Something like that.

Completely agree!

At rhis point you can no longer justify soo many issues as incompetence. Either Linus or a top employee was hellbent in destroying that company.

You're right, totally slipped my mind

​@@KiraTV1well, I guess you should edit your own video

@@gutwallst6645 Gottim!

@@KiraTV1 Should have posted this response on your patreon :P

He was trying to lobby RU-vid to charge for 4K content under the pretext of data needed for 4K videos

As Linus himself said, "corporations aren't your friend"

It seems to always turn out that way when people get big...

From the beginning, he took advantage of having the same name as Linus Torvalds. At the time, it seemed like a fairly harmless way to drive up clicks, but in hindsight... I think if you went back there were indications and red flags that honesty was not a priority.

@@HansBjorgman I think if you looked back through his career, the problem wasn't "getting big". Either there's integrity from the beginning or not, it just becomes a lot more visible when they start making lots of money and get caught.

And screwdrivers .. ..apparently...

then he's surprised and "hurt" that the community demanded written warranty contracts for their overpriced 250$ backpack instead of ther "Trust us Bro" verbal warranty lmfao. dickhead, you're not a small youtube page, you're a 100m usd corporation, "trust me bro" is not gonna work anymore lmfao

you live long enough to become the thing u hate.. top kek!

Blocked his channel a few years ago. The thumnails for his videos alone are enough to know that the guy is a pleb.

Didn't Harvey Dent say that? You either die a hero, or live long enough to become the villian. @@aceous99

Yeah. You know that if none of this had come out this would have been absolutely swept under the rug and allowed the continuation of a really, really shitty practice.

What conspiracy would make them auction something a tiny company said they wanted back? No matter what the review??? I enjoy a good conspiracy theory but given all the other issues with obviously rushed crap, poor oversight and poor communication people screwing up and it getting stuck in with the stuff to be auctioned seems way more likely.

@@glenecollins What conspiracy exactly. Where did this line of thinking even come from?

@@glenecollins I'm not claiming conspiracy, I'm saying I don't think it was an accident due to the utter contempt he shown them. It was deliberatly handled with disregard. That attitude, I suspect is why when they auctioned it off because they didn't handle the product with any respect. They thought they could just ignore them and get away with it because for whatever reason they clearly looked down on them.

@@CaspianNomad that is less exciting, I really don’t think that is the case though, it could be why nobody took ownership of it and assured it got back to the owners but I read what you said as they actively put it into the pile for auction because they didn’t like the company. They have gotten in trouble from bigger companies because something they were supposed to send back got into a video months later sitting around the lab or repurposed.

Does this stop Quantum TV from being an a** for as trivial as saying his bald head doesn't look good?

I think easiest way would be to create new brand and maybe target different GPU with their product, but yea, they should let the GN to test whatever they make first.

The funny thing is after this drama there'd probably be quite a few channels that'd do it out of pure spite.

I mean the point still stands that unless they found a way to break the laws of thermodynamics the product is not worth it at all. No matter how cool looking and expensive your procut is you can't change the conductivity of copper.

GN probably wanted to test that part real bad.

@@zachmondial2172 copper is one of the top thermal conductors though? what do you mean? i haven't looked at their cooler and how it works but usually gpu heat sinks are made of aluminum which is about 45% less conductive than copper.

I think it's a little different to auction it off as "memorabilia from a LTT video" (for charity) as opposed to "a part you would want to use in your PC." Of course he shouldn't have been auctioning off the part at all because it was a prototype the company wanted back, but if that hadn't been the case I don't think what you're saying would be an issue.

There's a difference between not recommending a product at retail price ($800) VS actioning it off to the highest bidder. Even trash has a price point where people will buy it. 🤡

@@Eamilincel

@@AnimeBeefRandoms were you crying when you wrote this linus?

@@jasonvoorhees5640 GN?

Linus is finished, his credibility is down the sewer now

LTT isn't even worth the time of day. At this point they're worse than the Verge because at least the Verge recognizes mistakes and attempts to correct them. Remember what GN and even LTT have said "it's not the mistakes it's how you handle them", and Linus has revealed how scummy he is and the trickle down effect of his personality and environment throughout the company.

I don't trust gamers nexus either if you don't understand why you are part of the whole problem

@@mastrjedii7863 Then prove me wrong. I'll be waiting. Otherwise that whole comment was a waste of calories. Go touch grass.

@@donut3110 prove what wrong didn't comment on a comment made by you, but your passive aggressive response is a great indicator.. no response required

Moneygrubbers gonna grub the money, no doubt. Although, I gotta say, that Billet situation was way beyond the money, that was downright spite.

True. For me the "adblocking is piracy" controversy highlighted how bad Linus is at communicating with his audience.

@@kartikmanogar5828 bruh if adblock gave me money, id have been living on a private island now. linus be having that crack brain rot.