The Disturbing Lanz Brothers Case 

I'm so sorry and my heart goes out to you and your family. There are too many people that commit heinous crimes that needed help. Our society doesn't really care about the mentally ill like they should.

I hope he’s convicted and put away for good. I’ve been following this case since it happened as I was living in East Cobb at the time. When I moved to Cartersville shortly thereafter; this case was the reason I installed a whole-house security system. I learned for myself just a year later how terrifying neighbors can suddenly be when my own next door neighbor suddenly lost it. He randomly came home with a pit bull one day which he tied up in *our* yard. My boyfriend went to ask him to please take his dog inside or at least to his own yard, and he mumbled back nonsense (but he did take the dog in so we carried on back to usual). Hours later he shot up his workplace, murdering his supervisor, then ran his truck *through* a strip mall, before ending his own life once surrounded by police. We didn’t find out about it until the next day since he worked all the way up in Chattanooga, TN, but I frequently think about how luckily we were not to have become victims ourselves when we approached him about his dog literally right before he went on his rampage. I mention all this to say how sorry I am that your cousin and her husband were not so lucky. It could happen to anyone- these monsters need to be put away for good, and hopefully in the near future we can find ways to find them and force them into inpatient treatment *before* things like this happen.

🙏❤️🙏

Oh my God, I’m so sorry for your loss. This is devastating. I will pray that your family receives justice . God Bless.🙏

That means I can mention to you that their son is the cutest baby I've ever seen. That's what I thought, from that first picture. It's amazing that living people now emerge from these tragedies, and speak in real time. Very sorry about it.

For real that was creepy af. If I was that officer I woulda had my gun pointed at him the entire time

When he said, "Are you scared?" I thought, please have your guns out officers. This is just another reason why mental health needs to be taken way more seriously.

"Are you scared to come up?" Nope. I'm already out the door halfway down the street 😂

If it was I would have never stayed at the foot of the stairs like that but rather towards the middle of that room/kitchen, and would've asked him to come down with his hands up, and would have had my taser out, and would have asked my partner to have his/her taser/gun out also. Maybe he was a rookie or something.

@@megatherion2695 what?

You can't prove intent in that scenario

I just had a homeless crack head living (and hiding) in my house for a day and a half until I caught them red-handed. Police came and IMMEDIATELY released them. Apparently, they didn't commit any crimes. Didn't steal anything, didn't hurt anyone. Free to go

@@SlimeBlueMS but it’s obvious in this scenario that he was a danger to society. Also, I’m pretty sure it’s a crime to break in and trespass

​@@SlimeBlueMS , That's ridiculous that the police didn't charge them with B&E. I unfortunately live by addicts. I haven't had many problems with them since I walked them off my property at gun point. I told them I have absolutely no problem shooting them and apparently their families don't want them either( but who cam blame them). They didn't call the police as they had just made a drug deal and obviously didn't want to have the drugs found and they wouldn't be able to use them.

​@@SlimeBlueMS Crime is now legal. Police and judges are complicit.

That sure gets thrown around a lot of late. Its growing mold.

Too many of these stories have friends and family talking about all the red flags AFTER something goes horribly wrong.

Trouble is they weren't children anymore. I'm not too well acquainted with the rules, but I assume parents cannot force their adult children into treatment.

​@@beevie4081 If they are making threats or otherwise apparently psychologically disturbed they can be detained on a psych hold and get evaluated, at minimum

My 2nd child had a lot of difficulties, and I took him to different therapists, including 2 nationally accredited (at the time) treatment centers for children. Both did extensive interviews, and concluded I was paranoid. Later my son was diagnosed as bipolar, and had been using pot for years. He later told me it’s easy to lie to therapists, and he had, at the age of 11, been able to manipulate the counselors to believe there was nothing wrong with him. He later sought treatment on his own, and today is married with a family of his own.

They use that same still image of the “police” sign over the door

If only Big Boss Man were still alive,all this could have been prevented

Especially regards to his videos involving life insurance policies 😂😂 That will always be one of my favourite perks of watching Mikes content

Agreed!!

Omg yea!! Make an effort ppl! I unsubscribed from most of them

Tbf, it was probably more to just acknowledge to the dog that he isn't a threat. Dogs in general tend to respond with suspicion and hostility to people who carry themselves in an official or commanding manner, especially if they're in a uniform of some kind. I'd imagine the first thing on any cop's mind when they see a dog is, "this is a potential threat," just because of how dogs tend to respond to them and how they're used by criminals. I was actually surprised that the dog responded so kindly with all the tension that must have been in the air and the cop walking up so quickly, though a lot of that is probably because of how the owner acted towards him, and also just being a typical goobery black lab ❤️ (Just to be clear, no hate on dogs at all, I'm a veterinarian so just trying to look at it from the POV of animal behavior)

I think the wag says it all, like: "Man, tg ur here! There is a gd psycho upstairs and we b scared! I'd have my gun pulled on this one, Boss. Don't worry, I has got yer back."🐶

Ikr?

Yea I loved the creepy look face - hilarious!

I must have re-watched that part 3x's lol

Well, he wasn't exactly wrong about the government spying on him, because the government indeed does spy on its own citizens. The planes the police allegedly sent, he was talking about, could have been drones, used for surveillance - after all no one knew there was a drone flying above in Rittenhouse case until the trial started. They could have sent one, just to make sure and see how he acts and he by chance detected them. Of course the more likely scenario is he was seeing things. His obsession with the family though is a total mystery to me, probably thought they were agents or something in his damaged mind (thanks to one guy who once decided lead in gasoline would be a good idea in the early 1900s, which created such diseases in the first place, and it goes on generation after generation to this day). Of course I don't think the government gave him the time of the day, ever, they have powerful players to invigilate for their own political benefits. The brother could simply feel pressure from society, was mad and sad at the same time. Maybe something was destroyed in his life and he blamed the neighbor. He was on a suecide mission after he killed said neighbors. Or he was simply as effed up as his brother, but what's weird, normally schizos don't obsess over the same thing. The trial will reveal everything, so buckle up, you're gonna wait some time.

The whole situation is horrible for everyone involved but imagine the parents having not 1 but 2 psychopaths

@@blakeley38 thank the guy, who put lead in gas in the early 1900s, forever creating new physical and mental diseases. Veritasium has a video on it.

He had no way of knowing what would happen. It is not like he could have just kept the house, and kept paying taxes on a house he couldn't live in. The whole situation should have been handled differently by the courts, and family, in my opinion anyway. The old neighbors did everything they could do really. They shouldn't feel any guilt. It must have been awful to buy such a beautiful house and then the neighbor is a violent, mentally ill, and unstable man, who won't get help, and actually wants to start issues.

@@blakeley38 can’t be all nature, which means nurture had something to do with it. I’m not sure why we’d feel bad for parents who went 0 for 2 in terms raising non-murderous human beings. Gets no pats on the back from me that’s for sure

Huh? What did you say?

Why is that crazy eveyone knows someone?

@@luc1ferblackobviously most people would have that reaction to seeing a story by a beloved RU-vidr covering a story about someone familiar. 🙄

​@@nohmers18 sorry what was that bud?

@@luc1ferblack because of all the cases he chose one of somebody she knew? tf? that's why..

thank you so much for this information!

I’m starting the process of buying my first home and my greatest fear is that the neighbors will be crazy. Thanks for the info, I’ll definitely put it to use.

Thank you!

Thank you all for your replies and signs of appreciation. I just want you to know I don’t like posting I’m a police officer, esp on crime videos, only bc: a) how cliché, right?, and b) I don’t want to come across as a “know-it-all”. But my job and my duty is to keep people safe and with that being said and solely based on the oath I took (which I take very seriously), I feel it’s imperative for me to provide information that will help others in the event they need it or if the information is not “common knowledge” and I felt this met that category. Thank you all for being the wonderful people you are, and continue to stay safe in a VERY unsafe world. Let’s try to love each other a little more and use our energy towards positive things. Much love to all 💛❤️

​@@nopenope9118 .....& their biggest fear is, that u are the crazy new neighbor! 😏😏😋😂😂🤣🤣😎

He’s a Nancy boy

​@@kylem3295 why are you on this channel then? Are you one of the people you speak of too, or you just here to give your unwanted opinions in the comment section?

Totally hilarious!! Mike is cool. I'd have drinks with him! Lmk if you're ever in l.a.!

@@kylem3295 wow you make a lot of assumptions about me. I have worked in the criminal justice sector with murderers, s*eoffenders, violent offenders, female serial killers & child trafficking cases all my career. Some of cases on this channel, pale into comparison besides some of the horrific cases I have dealt with. And it’s rather different when you’re face to face with the actual evidence, victims, perpetrators. This is a busman’s holiday for me. I will give you one answer. The ‘need’ it satisfies in me, is pretty simple. To keep the public safe. To put and keep the killers in prison. And to make sure our children have as little risk to them that is possible. Happy? Or are there anymore assumptions you’d like to make?

@@kylem3295 L take

Yeah right? 😳

Would have been ready with the taser/gun when he said that, definitely.

100000 percent 😮

“Are you afraid to come up?” was creepy as hell

Really? To me it didn't sound spooky so much as childish. Clearly the thought process of someone who never encountered the 'else' part of 'or else.'

What happened with the parents of these 2 monsters ?

@@derek04151yeah where did those monsters go?

Tad lol

@@derek04151 absolutely nothing

that neighborhood is cursed

And he was situated so close to the very bottom of the stairs as well as Matthew was descending, but hindsight is 20/20, I guess. Terrifying..

@@wendigo1919 yea hindsight is 20/20 but that cop is bold for hanging around after Matthew challenged him saying stuff like “Are you scared?” Major red flag 🚩🚩

I was thinking the same thing, but it did show secondary bodycam footage for a split second, so I think there was atleast one other officer in there with him. I would've had a shield brought in. Dude sounded ominous af asking the cop to come up

These one man stuff is very dangerous always need another set hands eyes

and this is what characters in horror movies do- no backup

I know right. That was creepy as to watch. I did like how the cop was a bit smart ass back about it, & wasn't fooled.

I think over time you get desensitized to the fact you're possibly facing life/death danger every day, as it is ultimately work/a job. Also, given the area, how chill the homeowners were, and that the officer appeared to believe he was dealing with a disabled adult in some capacity, I don't think he was thinking like a cop, more like a social worker in that moment. Scary regardless.

That part 🎯

What a very inappropriate and untrue thing to say

@@MarsVoltaire that is disgusting.

Faurted

I knew the parents I went to school with them and I feel so bad for the boy

For real that is a threat and a perfectly justifiable use of force would have been absolutely fine there.

YES THAT GAVE ME CHILLS

Hell yes!

I too live less than 1mile from this, and can't find any information about trial other than it's been postponed twice now., in 2 years.

We still have no dates or answers! He is pleading insanity. He has been under evaluation for a year. This is causing the case to be put on hold.

These are my family members that were killed. He is trying to plead insanity. With all of the details that have come out, and I’m sure so many more that we don’t know, there is no way this wasn’t pre-meditated. We are still waiting for justice for our family.

@@user-gy9ec6nk3e I'm so sorry for your loss. I hope he does stand trial and faces justice for what he did. I know it will never replace them, but you deserve that closure. Keeping your family in my thoughts. 🙏

Same - people call me paranoid but I just call it being reasonable lol.

Better to be paranoid but alive

That’s called being proactive and it very well may save your life. I check my property perimeter every night as well.

I do the same, I also keep my berreta in close reach with 2 full magazines.

I’ve watched enough doorbell news to lock everything up every single night.

When youre in it, crazy is remarkably normal 😕

parents were too worried about their image

@@Unfluencer Huh? The parents told the police they had suspicions about their own son. That's not being worried about their image.

Usually, I get annoyed when people jump to blaming parents or assuming motives for parents not intervening, but in this case...DAMN. The first time the police got involved with the first son, that's when they should have stepped up and got him help. Sometimes it takes multiple attempts. But the thing you don't do as the parent of a mentally ill child is ignore it and hope it goes away. I have some experience with this and it's a long hard expensive road, but that's not a poor neighborhood. They had the resources.

Exactly. Parents should've had both the crazies locked up years before. Instead they let their demented offspring loose on the neighbourhood.

I imagined the guard trying to lick him really hard.

Lol I figured he meant something else but couldn't figure out what part of the body rhymes with tongue

😂that’s what I thought at first too ! And I was thinking how can you dislocate a tongue 😮

i did too - i kept thinking, how does a tongue get dislocated..... omg lol... i had to backup and added cc - thumb

I heard it that way too, and wondered how that would be possible. 😆👅

Law should be changed to have the trial ASAP. The longer the delay, memories and events can fade etc... It's awful when innocent people that protect the public die because a mental person was on the loose.

@@kylem3295 having an opinion when the cops botch an investigation isn’t “throwing someone under the bus” but okay lol

I yelled at my TV. My love to Officer Gonzales' loved ones and family, my thanks for his service and my apologies.

ACAB

@@miryana79 They're supposed to be entitled to a swift trial, I think... but like a lot of things these days, it's probably in the idea, not the practice. I agree with you though. I'd also like to see something done, in cases of people like this, the first time a major red flag appears. The parents should be ashamed of themselves for watching events unfold, when in BOTH cases, they clearly had some idea of what was happening.

There is a difference in living in the middle of Dallas or the Bronx where everything is concrete 20 stories high minimum and being a police officer in a nice housing estate area. It was also pretty obvious that this dog was pleased to see the officer and not attacking hm.

@@kylem3295 Don't be a jerk, there's no reason for it. A big reason a lot of us watch these kind of channels/reports/stories about true crime is; because we want to know how we can tell, ahead of time, that we are in the cross hairs of a killer or other type of criminal. We want to know more about who DOES murder others & I'm telling you, I never would've thought a lot of the ones who do kill without conscience would've been murderers. We have little resources to draw from, to be able to sense trouble like that when it's near us.. Most killers are extremely manipulative & so are those who commit every other kind of crime. Knowledge, info can sometimes be the difference between life and death. How they catch killers is very interesting to me too; the forensic tests & collecting of specimens & samples & the different techniques, the ability to view a crime scene & figure out what happened when, how they interview witnesses & how to do that skillfully, thoroughly, all matters in catching these killers. I know this type of video may not be for all people, yet there are a lot of us who also HAVE BEEN victims of some very serious crimes ourselves, and those whose loved ones have been murdered as well, and just maybe some of us want to understand how killers may think just a bit more, in order to protect ourseles and our loved ones better..Knowing what has and has not worked for victims in different situations as victims may also be of calue to help others escape from being killed by a nut or a perfectly calm evil person......

@@KathyHussey063 I don’t know what that person said because the comment is gone but well said, I completely agree with what you said

There is more to the case. I met him in jail and we had the same lawyer. There is something bigger going on. Don't trust the news one second

My mouth was agape throughout the whole video! Absolutely nutty.

He’s had a couple of weirder ones. Guy living inside the sofa was one.

It doesn't help America doesn't care about systemic discord in their communities. They'll give lipservice to falsely advocate for mental health services when the issue is about overproduction of guns and shootings, and then not do anything to give citizens unconditional healthcare with the taxes we all spend to get the stuff. Just more boom boom in brown countries and we just say thots and prayers, waiting for the next disturbed person to cook up in their helpless situations.

back in college I knew a guy who thought there were cameras everywhere looking at him and the girls at the dormitory next to us were watching and doing commentary on everything he did. He thought old thumbtacks and props on the walls were cameras and he accused the dorm next door. He realized later that it didn't make sense when he could still hear the girls even when he was far away from the dorms so he did get help.

Even scarier for him I imagine. Here’s this young man who has all of these things going on in his head and he has no idea what’s real and what isn’t. You could just leave or stop talking to him but he had no way out of that world and nobody in his life that cared enough to help. That’s completely heartbreaking. I hope he’s doing okay.

It's even worse when the people they live with deny anything is wrong & they fully accept living with the fear of harm and all the abuse from their batshit crazy theories, believing them to be mostly true. And those family members attack you for saying something! Lots of people live in denial because of the social status concerns: "Nothing wrong here".

They believe in their delusions so much they refuse to take medicine that makes feel more “normal”, the delusions are real, they don’t want medication just dulls them. It’s very difficult to treat.

Was the first time I’ve seen an American cop being too conservative with pulling a gun

Totally agree that was the disease both brothers had...

schizo doesn't cause you to go on murder sprees.

​@@hislord1 true, but people with schizophrenia can develop violent behavior without remorse. I dealt with them in hospitals.

​@@hislord1i mean they are obviously responsible for their actions, but i can have some slight sympathy for someone who is a victim of his own mind

@@Max501I’d say the majority of people with schizophrenia are more than likely threats to themselves, though. Not others

Sorry for your loss 😢🙏🏼

Really sorry to hear you are experiencing such heartache. Stay strong.

Sorry for your loss. I lost my Mama, I know it's so hard. Hang in there.

Start praying in Jesus' name, for real. It's spiritual illness.

This is true and needs to change. Mental hospitals, release PPL with schizophrenia and expect them to take their meds. It's a vicious dysfunctional cycle, that endangers everyone especially the family of the mentally ill, person. My bf is a lawyer, his daughter was a nurse, going to college for a 2 nd degree. That's when her Schizophrenia hit. In the years I've known him, his daughter has threatened to kill him, several times. She can become violent and threatens him often. She only gets held for 48-72 hrs... and released with meds.... Which she eventually stops taking. My heart goes out to all family of those suffering with mental illness .. there has to be better ways to handle violent patients to keep them safe, their family n public safe. .. No one should have to live in fear... Not knowing what will push, a mental patient. Over the edge.... We need to improve mental health care in the U. S. A... It must be a priority

@@carolrado5730 What a disgusting thing to say to someone - not only is that completely false, it's extremely dangerous if anybody was to believe you and opt to pray instead of seeking actual help from medical professionals. Plus it kind if seems like you're saying it's peoples own fault if they have this mental illness because they're not right spiritually. Absolutely despicable. Go preach your Jesus nonsense somewhere else - how dare you try and use an emotional story someone is telling to try and manipulate them into adopting your religious beliefs.

Blaming the mental health treatment system or mental health professionals won't help here. People really misunderstand the effectiveness of treatment. Psychiatric prescribers and therapists can't just fix people. We need better meds and treatments. There is a lot we don't know about the minds. A huge percentage of people with schizophrenia don't respond to antipsychotic medication (like around 20% at least). Another significant cluster of people only partially respond to antipsychotic medication. Psychotherapy has very limited effectiveness for delusions. Also, there is no easy answer to the issue of maintaining patient rights. There is a long history of psychiatrists having way too much power and abusing it (having people locked up who should not have been, keeping people in long term psychiatric centers without justification, ordering treatments that are not evidence based, etc). People often seem to want a kind of authoritarian response from some government appointed psychiatrist or something without considering the unintended consequences of this as well as the fact that you can only control people so much when they're that delusional anyway. But yeah please don't put unrealistic expectations on mental health professionals. It won't help.

@@1DangerMouse1 lol you're so misguided if you think I'm blaming mental health professionals. If anything, it's lawmakers because we aren't allowed to commit violent schizophrenics until they do irreparable damage to somebody else or themselves. But even if they are committed, like you said, meds really don't do anything for a lot of them, and there's a lot of cases where they just won't get better despite anything. I agree with a lot of you said, except the part where you said I'm blaming mental health professionals, especially since I used to work in mental health myself. Quit putting words in my mouth please :)

It was mentioned this was Schizophrenia, and schizophrenia is known to be as much as 90 percent heritable. People suffering from it usually do not become violent unless someone feeds into their delusions.. It seems likely the brothers fed into each other... if one of them has ASPD we'll know for sure that one was feeding into the other.

Paranoid schizophrenics IMHO.

Parents are probably government agents & their sons are medical experiments.

Schizophrenia isn’t caused by home life. It’s a biological condition caused by genetics and/or a combination of genetics and prenatal developmental stressors. Also, people with schizophrenia don’t usually develop symptoms until late teens or early adulthood, so it could be this was their first major manifestations of their disorders. I, personally, wouldn’t put a lot of blame on the parents without knowing a lot more about the circumstances.

@@OrangeCat1992 fair point but not sure they should go un reprimanded for not going to the police when they had their suspicions about two innocent victims

Actually schizoaffective disorder is pretty easy to detect! If the parents had done even a basic assessment for their son they would have spotted it almost immediately and saved lives. Very sad

It can't be easy as parents to have a mentally ill child, but we have to guess that these parents were absent/enabling their children with their inaction. It's wild that both of their kids were able to get away with such erratic behavior. The parents clearly preferred to "protect" or ignore their children over taking action. It cost the lives of their own child, an innocent man, and almost multiple other people. I'm so curious to know more about them.

@@thehaleybird what about two mentally ill people

Well they certainly suspected as they then drove to his apartment and asked him if he was involved and took his gun. Why they didn’t call the cops right then shows what POS’s they are

Agreed! I bet they stuck their heads in the sand because it would be embarassing to admit their sons were POS's. Well, they can't ignore it now.

Big time!! 2 very insane young men with parents that were ordered to get them treatment, yet presumably did not. They should also be charged.

Ever tried to get someone actually committed in this country? There's a reason we have an exploding homelessness problem, it is almost impossible to get people who need supervised care help "against their will", and no place to put them to get it. Because mental incompetency became, legally, a "lifestyle choice" in the '60s and '70s, and the places to provide that care were demonized and then defunded as not being used.

"we need to know more about the parents" aside from the question if they were enablers - who are you? The Inquisition?

​@@carebear8762 Wut so Hippies made mental health care go away? That's what your right wing puppet masters told you? Really? And you believe that?

@Russ Olson Didn't intend to imply it was the only reason, but if you look at the data the percentage of seriously mentally ill people rotating between the streets and jail tracks very well with the decrease in long-term and supervised psychiatric care beds. When you add in drug addiction the Venn diagram starts to converge as ill people self-medicate with drugs and alcohol, and serious addiction causes psychosis. The concerted effort beginning in the '50s to dismantle the psychiatric health care system in this country, without any realistic replacement being proffered can be directly tied to many of the societal degradation issues we see. It is neither humane nor merciful nor respectful to enable damaged people to commit slow-motion public suicide rather than taking them into supervised care.

I am the parent of a mentally ill son. We had him in therapy for most of his childhood. He rotated in and out of mental health facilities for most of his teenaged years. When he committed a terrible crime at the age of 17 1/2 he was sent to a rather jail like mental health facility. We were then given the option of being deported with him or letting him be deported alone. As he was in a secure facility, we tried desperately to get him into a residential program in the States. He took matters into his own hands the day he turned 18 and fled Europe to go with a fellow mental patient to the States. Made our decision moot. We were then told that because he was legally an adult, we had no say in whatever happened to him. So, I cannot blame the parents. I believe they probably loved their sons and wanted what was best for them. Sometimes, no matter how hard one tries to do the right thing, things just go horribly wrong. I feel for the parents. I know the helpless feeling when one cannot do a damned thing to help one's child.

100%

Interfering with the US Mail is a felony!

Ups isn’t allowed to put shit in your mail box

Is this true? In my town new food businesses when opening up will put food menus in everyones mailboxes to bring them new customers.

I’ve never given anyone permission to send me junk mail, yet that’s all I get.

i've seen people put them on the outside with tape or stick in the door

After watching this one I just said a prayer of thanks for our neighbors even if they're a little nosy sometimes.❤Better to have that kind of neighbor than the kind just described by Mike!

All my neighbors are the best ❤️

Both my neighbors are cool, but their grown-ass boys still live in their backyards & are are all just as batshit crazy as these two brothers were.

@@sunshine3914 crazy like in kid stuff or criminal?

I’ve had 7 years of nightmare neighbours. The house next to mine is social housing and basically trouble makers get housed there. I’m a single female who lives on her own and sometimes it’s scary, as I only have one way out of my house and I have to walk past next door. During the pandemic there was a guy in there who had been in prison for assault and had 37 violence convictions. It was terrifying but no one cared. He’s now in prison for attempted murder…..

It was probably his death that triggered Matthew. With him also not living with the parents, probably easier to hide

@@SugarandSarcasm Definitely. It wouldn't surprise me if Matthew had some skeletons hiding in his closet too.

I was thinking the same thing. Truly heartbreaking for everyone involved

@@jent2265 It is horribly tragic and needless.

Yeah its called meth.

It's how you have to be. The officer new what was likely to happen when they got came down. It's why he got his partner on the other side of the stairs so it would be hard for the guy to effectively attack/fight both of them. I would have shot that guy the second I saw that knife.

Even better was the officer's immediate reply, are you afraid to come down? He was the best part of this story, he had nut job's number. Even had the cojones to take a couple pokes for the team. Then shot the guy twice but kept him alive to be held accountable.

@@kylem3295 Cause it’s so hard to notice when something is off with someone? You go away Kyle go punch some drywall nerd.

My brother has paranoid schizophrenia too. So you must know how hard is to get them treatment or forceful hospitalization against their will.

Indeed , I appreciate him very much . Hard worker .

@Brenda I didn't know that mentally challenged had 'a look'. Could you enlighten us...what does mentally challenged look like? And no, you cannot tell...so maybe don't assume that you can tell someones mental health condition or lack there of by how they look physically. Afterall you know what you're doing when you assume something...making an ASS out of U and ME.

Well, he made a great effort. but there was no de-escalating that situation unfortunately. That son was on a mission.. likely wanting suicide by officer, which is what he got. Of course wanting to do as much harm as he could before that happened.

@@wendigo1919 are you talking about the son (and cop) that died, or the other son (and cop) who lived?

@@wendigo1919 i'm surprised he didn't have his gun ready, it was a home invasion and an obvious ambush

I am not surprised. He has the skin color for desescalation.

@@ewarrior9776 you do know young white men are the demographic most likely to be shot by police in the US, above every other single demographic. if he was a young black man, there would be LESS chance he would be shot by the Police. Look at the actual data and stop believing racist propaganda

at least they took the gun away before he could kill anyone else i guess...

based on the outcome the parents didn't deal with the fact that at least their eldest had a mental illness. interesting that the parents suspected that their youngest did the killing. can the parents be charged for negligence?

​@@DWardington I was just thinking that if they haven't taken the gun away, their son probably would've succeeded in killing the cop at the bottom of the stairs when he came down. But he only had a knife, so the cop had a chance.

@@aceshigh5157 Once people become adults, they are responsible for their own actions. The parents only suspected, did not have proof, but took the gun away anyway. Besides, suing for negligence? This is not a business or a contractural relationship. Once we are adults, our parents are no longer obligated to save us from ourselves. No doubt they would do if they could, but a grown man or woman does not blame their parents for their own bad behavior.

@@DWardington Absolutely. They did what they could. They're just human, and can't save their children forever.

This is my cousin and her husband that were killed. They had just moved in and Matthew was away at college. He didn’t live at home with his parents so he had never met my family members. We do wonder if once he got in the house, did he realize the error and still kill them. We arent sure if he has ever met the previous owners since he was living in Athens and I don’t think they had been living in the house long either. So many questions that we still need answers to.

I’m so sorry. Feel so bad for u, hubby, and your pups:( Hope u all can heal from all that and have the help u need

@@mustangnawt1 we have been given such a much better life. Tenfold. It’s weird but I know it’s been 10 fold in the other direction for the neighbors who ran us off. After all that was done to us, I feel sorry for them. God is Good

I had a similar situation. The man next door was absolutely unhinged. He poisoned and killed one of my dogs. Tried to shoot the other. Any time I would mow the lawn he would freak the hell out on me. I couldn't even order delivery because I was worried about them pulling in the wrong driveway and being shot by him. He used to sit in the front entryway with his shotgun. He started a fire in my shed. Like it was just insane. At first, I didn't realize it was him, then I couldn't prove it was him, or that he was doing anything. The cops were trying to help me but like... it was so hard to finally get him on something. I put cameras up but he somehow got around them. Invested in even more cameras so there was no way he could avoid them all. Eventually, when he poisoned my dog, I thought we finally had him. It was on camera and my dog died. Then he was released on bond. When he was released I took my other dog and left to a friend's house. I didn't know what to do. I couldn't morally sell and have him start the torture of some other innocent family when they moved in. It was taken out of my hands two weeks later. He shot an innocent man out walking his dog. The dog stepped like 5 feet onto his lawn.. and he ran out and got into a screaming match with the guy and shot him. He went to prison for 25 to life. Some people are just fucking insane and there is no helping them.

Jeez. Sounds like an episode of Fear Thy Neighbor

I'm just thinking how malevolent or sick people focus on a household. There were 2 brothers who bothered us, were on the property and more, for many years as they grew up. I lost 2 cats. Inside, things were moved or went missing. The charger for a vacuum, and one of a pair of shoes, lots of times, over the years. Car exterior mirrors whacked flat. That kind of stuff. My house and garage were their playhouse and we people and animals, their toys. People are asking about the parents of this film and crime. Well, if I said anything to the mother, "How do you know it was my boys?" And the father would either say, "I'll talk to them." or "Not my boys!" In our case we were chosen for the fun because of proximity, and because we were 2 women. I personally know 3 other single women homeowners who sold and moved because a neighbor singled them out for some kind of funny stuff. Another who should, and a friend who changed apartments because of it. I was told to set up cameras, too. Wish I had.

If you could upload a 5 minute video of your insurance dances as a compilation, I'll die happy. Thaaaanks lol

I'm putting in life insurance boogie comp. Please and thank you 🎉😂

As much as I feel bad with the victims, we still get that feeling to miss the insurance dance 🤣🤣🤣🤣 ❤❤

It's a revenge plot...

(Before watching) Nah, man, neighbor’s not getting any life insurance.

And at home 🏡 of all places.....😪😥😢😭😭

I've seen situations where parents were doing the right thing when the child/children were minors. Once the kids become adults they are in charge of their own medical decisions. Both of those guys were over eighteen and if they chose to stop taking medication there's nothing their parents could have done about.

The parents may have not been right in the head also, but been able to handle it better :x

I usually put things on the person who did it. Hindsight makes everyone believe they know what should've happened, that's the beauty of hindsight.

Once they are 18… nothing you can do.

When I was younger, I used to blame everything on their parents. When you get older, you can see some parents trying and just not able to sort it out. They can try their best and just not know how to handle these situations themselves.

He’s the best at it, what do you mean

Keep pressing, my guy!!! Better days are coming….💯🙏🏾✊🏾

He's doing well. Take care of you. Hope things lookup for you soon. Good on you for going to school!

You're a REAL man David . Others would do drugs or drink to escape . I wish you good luck !

Fair play to you but I no Mike is the type of young man that never looks for money good luck to you and your family because life is hard especially on the money side of things✌️

I went to school with them I knew Justin since 7th grade and I knew Amber since 9th they were both saints

Truly loved by everyone they crossed paths with. We miss them so much.