The Division 2 Community Will NEVER Be Satisfied! Seasonal Character Debate... (Year 6) 

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Bro a lot of these guys can't even play on heroic as a team. So that new mastery level. I wouldn't even touch it if I was them.

they want to do that for new players....cool. the problem is if you don't make a seasonal player then you don't have access to the content that a seasonal player gets. so it has been said that you don't have to do this, and if you don't do this then you lose out on the season, and manhunt plus this master class, why can't you have the option of still using your main character? we can't get extra storge space yet they can make an extra character spot that holds 150

why would I loot with another character if I have "load outs" on my MAIN CHARACTER that I still need to accomplish. seasonal character makes no sense.

Two things. Way too much grind for little resources and multiplayer exclusive weapons.

For me personally I already don't like to run through NY as I find the process boring and tedious. I forced myself to do it for 2 mules and for expertise and I really have no interest in running NY after doing it probably at least 20 times. That is my biggest issue but I also feel that it breaks the immersion to an extent because your main character is the one who has been through and seen and done everything in the story till this point and now this new random character who hasn't been apart of this story is taking over and a new character every season. This is not going to be a problem for everyone but I am a huge sucker for games with good immersion around feeling you are part of the story and you have been through all this stuff. End note: Regardless to how this plays out I will still probably be playing the manhunts and stuff, but that doesn't mean I like the idea of having to run a new character every season.

Seasonal character is not a new contents, We will be doing the same things in the same old map so they are separating the community, let me enjoy the manhunt with the character that i build and invest time with it, you make it sound like the community is ungrateful, if we are lots of players would have left as we been seeing this trend with each update it bring issues and bugs to our experience thanks for the video & have a good weekend.

You said repeatedly "they arent taking anything away from us" but they really are. They are taking away nearly all the value from our main characters. Why did I max my watch and grind out all that expertise? Why did i farm for days to get, reroll, and optimize an ouroboros? So i could farm control points? The time and investment was worth it for the promise of having the benefits when hitting new content, not just so they could sit in my lobby.

Man u must be my long lost twin. My thoughts were exactly the same😂

Those complaining in pvp about status effect nerfs exposed themselves to be garbage players. lets be real. If youre heavily relying on status effect to win your fights.....ill leave it at that. Thats like people complaining about XDefiant and needing SBMM/EOMM. If you rely on that, then you got no gun game and you cant claim to be the best. The ONLY issue I have is seasonal characters. having to create a seasonal character is like playing Diablo 4 where you get to play the character for 90 days a season only for it to be transferred to the Eternal realm once the season is over. The problem with that in the Division 2 universe is the fact that you're allocated 3 character slots in total compared to 12 in Diablo 4. The other issue is loot/stash management. How are you going to upkeep on that when the season ends? You cant put the earned loot in the stash as the stash is already at max of 300 unless you do like Diablo 4 does and adds additional stash slots (max cap of 5). The other issue is how is the global events/manhunts/time trials going to work with seasonal/non-seasonal charaters? Its a big issue and a very hot and divisive topic. If they want my honest truth, well here it is: If they follow through and conduct the seasonal characters much like D4, then the game will officially die. Why you ask? because no one in their right mind is going to want to level a seasonal character to conduct manhunts/global events/time trials, etc which is something a non-seasonal character can do. Now, If seasons 2.0 turns out to be different in the aspect that you will NOT have to level a toon and is mandatory to level your seasonal by doing said events, then I can see this game through. but at this point its pointing in the direction where I think its going to go and if thats the case....

They are trying to do stuff similar to diablo 3 and 4 and it wont work and this is why. 1. Diablo 4 has 12 character slots where you can have plenty of seasonal and non-seasonal characters. Division 2 has 4 character slots, so not nearly enough to even attempt seasonal characters. If you look at other live service games that have seasons, if there isnt enough character slots for this, you keep your main characters for seasonal content. Destiny 2 does this and it works. And lets say you have a mule character, you technically have 2 campain characters,1 seasonal and 1 mule. Again it doesnt make sense. 2. We have limited stash space, and for each season they always introduce a new gear set or brand, and your stash only has 300 max slots. Im not saying you should horde everything, but who wants go to back out into a world with shit match making to farm gear you already had and had to break to make space for new gear to make a character build. Diablo 3 also has stash tab seasonal challenges you can do to get extra stash space, Division has none of that, even people said they would pay for more stash space and it still hasnt happened. It only means they dont have the server capacity to house all those characters and stash tab data. 3.What incentive do they give you for keeping nonseasonal character if there isnt anything to do in the base game, and you can only partake in seasonal content with a seasonal character. That means your non-seasonal really serves no purpose anymore. Even if you wanted to make a new playthrough of div 2, you would make a fresh story character so again its pointless carrying over what u earned in seasonal if you will never use it for a campaign. 4.Did you notice in the free track rewards how many empty gaps you dont get anything? twice I saw 4 slots in a row with no rewards in the progression, but they put those rewards in the paid season pass. Bro they aint fooling anyone. The only reason they want you playing seasons is to get you to essentially pay for a seasonal battlepass to get them. The only reason to keep you in seasons is to keep you paying and playing. Go take a look at how that worked out for Diablo 4 in the beginning. In order for investors to make money, is to slow down progression, keep players in the games playing and grinding longer, and spending money on cosmetics and battle passes. So I think they need to sit down and openly communicate with players now before they implement this, cause it might make or break what happens next. But! thats my personal perspective and stance on the situation! Thanks for listening IDentity! Have a good one everyone!

Dont like this move so late in the life cycle. This is a move towards bringing new players who felt intimidated by jumping in so late. I switched from xbox to ps5 and restarted a new character a few months ago, i will prob so season on ps5 as im still only like shd 600 ish. But this move hurts casual players so cant put in hours to grind and hurts the hardcore players who have invested so much time. This move really helps no one

I would rather have them repeat old stories like they did before than be forced to start with fresh character

My only issue is with a new Division. I'm a year one player from The Division, I fought hard against Division 2 because there was no reason for its creation. They could have done what they wanted with the Underground System (which could in seconds take you anywhere on the planet) and just expanded the game with the use of DLCs. We would still have Survival, a proper giant DZ, and all the DC Content they wanted to add. Oh, and not lose two years to "development issues". With almost empty DZs and PvP being "saved" only thanks to an "emergency mode" I feel vindicated, however, it is what it is, and that's that. For some reason, they wanted a new game, and that is what we have, but I will stand firm again, there is no reason for Division 3, unless the community wants 2/3 years of Hell again, this time with a much smaller group of Devs. Add all the DLCs they want but don't start the nightmare again. Unless that is, Ubi assembles a huge team of "not woke" Developers, an almost impossible task since the Division is their third or fourth priority. People should realise and be grateful to have such a "savage" and truthful game in an era where everything has become dumbed down and made for permanent childish bipeds who can hardly be called human. Would a new Division maintain the language, the attitude, the challenge to authority, and an almost photographic psychological demonstration of how Humans truly are? In this woke world, I very much doubt it. Just look at all the other games from "Big Studios", they are made almost entirely for pre-teens.

So.players who still haven't finished their proficiency yet will they get them leveled up with new season character? If they have to play a certain way?

Also you have to understand the mistrust the player base has with the Dev team. There are certain things that these guys can not get right, I guarantee there will screw up this new "mater Lever" I hope i'm wrong though

Why even bother with expertise when you start a new season at ZERO probably in a Descent type fashion.

What if and I'm probably giving the devs too much credit but what if these new characters have a different arch in terms of story. This season is keener recruiting us, next season is a different agent, same story different perspective. We can't be the only agent keener is trying to recruit. Just a thought.

I bought the game on release and it has been a bit of a roller coaster so far. There are aome valid points in recent criticism but... I don't know... i just play the game whenever I feel like playing the game. Doing the manhunts, playing around with builds with friends, doing seasons, time trials and stuff. All with the same three skill builds I had for years 😂...So, yeah, mostly chill play on Heroic. I have a full time job that involves travel and can't invest a whole lot of time into any game really. Still enjoy Division2 though.

You’re just like grock,and rouge gold other division youtuber kissing the devs ass😂

Your videos are the first thing I watch

Content is a game is always king.

Agree totally with your video, personally I cannot wait to try the new seasons. It’s new , we must try it before we can give real feedback. I have played the game since release and I Think after 6 years I have had my monies worth.

I feel like playing Indiana Jones stories and from one point in order to continue the story having to play with Jessica Jones jr (pun intended) and getting benefits for Doctor Jones to use in better library (but not field) expeditions. That's my feeling with seasonal characters at the present moment without more Devs explanation.

I have to agree and respectfully disagree my brother. Players will always be unhappy very true. However, I think the majority of the players are unhappy with certain changes. As the saying goes, "if it aint broke don't fix it. This Dev team seems to be staying away from what makes the Division unique and great.

The only way I see seasonal 2.0 being a hit is like in World of warcraft's Pandamonium event: You level 5 times as fast to get to the max cap and then you start gearing your toons. You can hit 40 in less than an hour and then start gearing your toon out. IF and I mean IF this is the seasonal route they are going to where you gotta level a character out every season. If thats the case, let us use our gear we already have in the stash to kit out our toons at max level. until then we suffer the leveling process

Until it’s clear how they intend to implement seasonal characters, it’s hard to have a position. If it’s anything like Diablo IV, your main still exists in its base game world, but the seasonals are run in the new content with the new gear/mechanics, etc. It might be good, it might be bad. Either way, I’ll probably be in the DZ somewhere.

Yeah man, they can't please everyone but they have a lot of much bigger problems in the game like game stability, gameplay, balance etc than reworking seasonal way is doing the season if it make sense. And mark my word brother, they will get rid of it the season after

To create sesional charachters they need to exetend slots for character creation.Why because any charachter you play is take a lot of loot and builds to make.That to help you to roll characher on game.Yep.Is good sesiional charachter if they extended slots.2 And shd lvl don't reset back.If they make this things is good.If not.Is not good.

I love this game I started way back in division one and I'm happy to see the devs still working and I'm looking forward to what's to come I'll take what they give us at this point I'm in it for the long haul 🎉

I love this game

forcing everyone to start over to see content is how games die. this is dumb as sht. how does forcing everyone to start over make things better for new players??? it's stupid as stupid gets

Try compare that to destiny's seasonal contents…yeah…div2 seasonal stuff are lacking…

I ain't going nowhere and I still send folks to your channel when I help them with build diversity 😅 so see you on the grind.

As a near 7k SHD Agent, with nearly every item, I'm looking forward to seasonal characters, just to try something a bit different.

Is it a big deal ? not sure, will i make seasonal characters? Most probably not, the game is already an endless grind. I hated every wony run, just passed a lvl 30 character to 40 and most definitely didn’t enjoy. I guess i will have to forget the seasons 👋

Game is broken. enemies are spawning special ammo and that directive isn't even in this season so explain that. Had to reload m700 3 complete times in a row just to fire one shot

Great content, bro.😊

Good to hear some measured thoughts.

Nobody ask for these changes 3 11 7 was the best by far

I think it's cool that they still bring new stuff to the game. I don't think I'm going to make a seasonal character but it's still cool that they didn't forget division 2 still has a playerbase. The team is probably very small now so they can't do big stuff like increasing the open world map or giving us a first person camera mode or new skills and so on so we should be happy to get something.

Decent and Survival do not use your own characters that you built up. No one lost their shit over that.

Devs are trash lol cronus n lag switching players if they don't find a way to correct loot n the 3rd party cheating it's over

I'm done playing once human demo switching soon as the 9th drops

game is boring now! meta this .. non meta that... new patch new bugs .. old bugs new patch... new gear trash gear.. nothing worth playing anymore. legendary missions are ez and boring now. raids are old and lackluster. new exotic chase are trash. i mean to many negatives. yes ill get them and play with them for a while but take your diamond back . how long has it been in your chest before you pulled it now because of the new gear set? im gonna assume a few years. its only fun now because of the new "niche" gear set that makes it somewhat playable now. but how long until you put that diamond back into your chest to take its slumber for another 5 years before even thinking about using it again? .. vindicator... sanctium... dread edicit ... lady death... etc etc. Content isnt challenging anymore. Gear is just trash now. thats my 2cents

I'm ready for some changes. It will pass the time until the DLC releases.

The only 2 good things about this is that, the grind to 40 can be streamlined and that once you hit 40, you can access the watch. No further need for a wony run. I say that we vets take full advantage of this before ubisoft removes this feature.

One thing that does bother me the most is paywall cosmetics💔😩

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Preach on dude. Lots of these youtubers just like to bitch and whine. First it was KVD bitching about the devs, unsubscribed. Then djtickle started doing the same, unsubscribed. The one doing this now is tuxedo.

Bravo, my boy bravo I’ve been saying this since Tuesday you said all the words that I’ve been saying people go to New York endless do the mule and get it but at the same time they cry about seasonal characters. It makes no sense make it make sense. The is bringing out new contents With that veterans need to grow up it’s not about no more it’s bigger than this community. There’s new people coming in here. They wanna play they wanna enjoy if you got a 70,000 car put them on the back burner and play with something new like too much and I don’t even see females complaining like y’all it’s sad.

What up agent 🫡