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The Downfall of LEGO Castle 

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We are now witnessing the renaissance of LEGO Castle ... between the Lion Knights' Castle , Creator Medieval Castle and the Ideas Medieval Blacksmith Shop, it is a great time to be a LEGO Castle fan. But what happened before this renaissance... what caused LEGO Castle to fall apart in the first place- join me today as I discuss The Downfall of LEGO Castle
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@jonathonrodriguezthomas6457
The sad fact about Lego is that their original labels have fallen secondary to their licensed sets, go into one of their stores and you'll still find City and Creator but you'll find that the larger and more impressive sets are for things like Marvel, Star Wars, DC, and so on. But I'd be foolish not to note on the Lego themes of Monkey Kid and Ninjago which I'll admit are also large and impressive yet they don't seem to hold the charm or endearing qualities of themes like Castle.
@TheOmegazerox
@TheOmegazerox 3 месяца назад
License themes are lego's way of playing safe. When a new theme is created they have to consider how well it could do. Licesed themes are recognizeable to people cause it's about the movies and such we are familliar with and often what is curantley popular like cinimatic. It's easyer to conect quickkley to Ironman or Hulk then a new charecter brainstormed by creators.
@anthonymuela9055
@anthonymuela9055 Год назад
I feel like they wouldve had more success in 2013 if they wouldve just continued the Kingdoms theme from 2011-2012, I mean why did they get rid of their lion and dragon factions just to replace them with an inferior lion and dragon faction only a year later.
@OurToyWorld
@OurToyWorld Год назад
It makes no sense. I wouldn't be surprised if they had this little minitheme just sitting around and decided to release it earlier than expected. Either way, I have no clue what they were thinking
@MayoHosko
@MayoHosko Год назад
The 2013 castle 🏰 theme was the first I bought with my own money but I do wish they just continued kingdoms an additional 2 years. The forest ambush is my favourite army builder set of all time
@Goldfyre
@Goldfyre Год назад
Great breakdown! Kingdoms & Fantasy Era were leagues above Castle 2013!
@OurToyWorld
@OurToyWorld Год назад
Absolutely. It's unfortunate that LEGO worked so hard to take Castle to the next level only to give up in 2013. Love what you're doing with Castle content btw.
@Goldfyre
@Goldfyre Год назад
@@OurToyWorld Thanks! I really appreciate that. I love your to the point style of videos a lot!
@OurToyWorld
@OurToyWorld Год назад
@@Goldfyre 🤝🤝 - you on IG?
@Goldfyre
@Goldfyre Год назад
@@OurToyWorld yeah I actually just made one recently. @goldfirevi
@brickmanusa
@brickmanusa Год назад
Another heater video bro!🔥
@tomzicare
@tomzicare 8 месяцев назад
Bro, its so fucking stupid we have garbage like dreamzzz and stuntz but no castle, pirates and wild west. Its fucking insane.
@scottkrafft6830
@scottkrafft6830 3 месяца назад
Wild West is never coming back. The way that politics in this country have developed since 2002 (the last year they were on shelves) is mind-boggling. What was once an innocent childrens' toy is now a symbol of "racism" and "colonial oppression". Neo-cons have allowed the radical left to take the reigns of cultural progression in this country, much to the detriment of everyone involved. Pirates will most likely, eventually, come back in the form of Pirates of the Caribbean. As for Dreamzzz, they DO seem to be selling well among children. They might not be aimed at AFOLs but that isn't their target audience.
@OurToyWorld
@OurToyWorld 3 месяца назад
If POTC does come back i could see it returning under icons … that’s it
@milsimmaniac711
@milsimmaniac711 Год назад
They had such a good thing going with pirates and castle but they juniorized both lines and give that a large portion of fans are afol's it killed the lines
@BrickHive
@BrickHive Год назад
Watching this while building my castle. 🙂 Banger video, brother!
@OurToyWorld
@OurToyWorld Год назад
Thank you, Hive!
@suliemanjadallah2062
@suliemanjadallah2062 Год назад
Ok we all agree nexo knights didn’t exist
@hanzocloud
@hanzocloud Год назад
The drought is not as big as you think from Lego’s point of view. It is confirmed from various source material like the instruction booklet of 5004419 that Nexo Knights is a part of the castle theme and was the successor to the 2013 line. This is a fact whether we like it or not. So taking this into consideration, it means he havnt had a castle theme since 2019. But have had more superior sets from random lines such as ideas, creator, icon. So we actually do have continuous castle products, from Lego’s point of view. So there is no downfall at all, just strength to strength with the best castle set ever released for the 90th anniversary. And with army builders emassing huge black falcon, lion knight and even forestmen armies from pick-a-brick (which by the way is a way better and cost efficient way to build armies than buying from small sets), this is the best time to be a castle fan! Therefore I do see Lego releasing a castle theme again this decade, just hope that it’s not Nexo Knights 2.. lol
@TheOmegazerox
@TheOmegazerox 3 месяца назад
Nexo knights was lego's last atempt at castle. Too manny compared it to ninjago or hated the compatition to ninjago so it was eventually scrapped. I sometimes think lego stopped doing castle cause alot of kids want vehicles and such. Marvel' starwars and citty cover alot of that so that's what they crank out. I feel like lego just makes castles and stuff largeley in the disney princess theme for girls and for boys they focus on vehicles and mech stuff. I realy wish castle and pirates would return. With the deku tree set we may see a zelda theme and lotr could losibley get going again after the two colectors sets they did and I herd a rumor potc may return. If anny of these get going I'd be more then happy and if all these come put -just hoping not holding my breath- well my wallet will go on a major diet.
@OurToyWorld
@OurToyWorld 3 месяца назад
I think you make a great point about the vehicles. Makes a lot of sense, tbh. Could also explain the increase in mechs across all themes as well
@TheOmegazerox
@TheOmegazerox 3 месяца назад
@@OurToyWorld I just thought that when it comes to vehicles and senery\desplay sets they pute the vehicle focus on kids and alot of the senerey sets are in colectors. Wish the display based sets wer more varied for more buyers. I'm getting tired of great sets like rivendale at huge builds and prices. I'd rather they did lotr like harry potter with severall sets you can combine for a larger build.
@xguy2950
@xguy2950 Год назад
0:21 what about fans born in 2015💀
@OurToyWorld
@OurToyWorld Год назад
I guess they get to grow up with the current state of LEGO Castle - a property divided between Creator, Icons & Ideas.
@Daniel_B_23
@Daniel_B_23 Год назад
I’m still waiting and holding out for the Islanders video.
@OurToyWorld
@OurToyWorld Год назад
Soon- either this week or next week. Had some family stuff occur earlier this week so I haven't had the time to sit down, research and write a script. I appreciate your patience though, Daniel.
@Daniel_B_23
@Daniel_B_23 Год назад
@@OurToyWorld no worries. Just excited as that’s my favorite genre in Lego. I think they’re a cool little subset. Look forward to it whenever it works out. Hope all is well with you and your family.
@OurToyWorld
@OurToyWorld Год назад
@@Daniel_B_23 Thank you. I can’t wait to make it. I have a very interesting theory about the lore of the Islanders… one that’s, in all honesty, quite dark.
@Daniel_B_23
@Daniel_B_23 Год назад
@@OurToyWorld 🤔 interested to hear it as not many people cover this subset anymore. Can’t wait! I look forward to it! 💯
@reichtangleanschluss509
@reichtangleanschluss509 Год назад
I think personally that with both Castle 2013 and Pirates 2015, their main weaknesses are their 2 biggest sets (King's Castle and Dragon Mountain for Castle and The Brick Bounty and Soldiers Fort for Pirates). They all look lacklusters (especially King's Castle and Soldiers Fort) and feels somewhat half done. The main positive thing for all of them are great minifigures, dragon and the flags in Pirates sets. Meanwhile the smaller sets are much better looking and I quite much like the idea of connecting 2 sets together idea in the Pirates wave. Also I have to point out that I don't like the bright red and blue colours in the Castle sets.
@dylanverstraete5323
@dylanverstraete5323 Год назад
This is very true I own the dragon mountain and soldier’s fort (aswell as the brick bounty, the treasure island and the shipwreck defense) and although both treasure island and shipwreck defense are pretty good and creative ways to design a set. The brick bounty does feel empty however it doesn’t have the same charm as the bounty back from 2009 (I think). The kingdoms line had potential but they just didn’t capitalize. I own the mill village (luckily) and the 2 smaller sets aswell as the dragon knights’ fortress. But their best one was the kings carriage ambush. They just have to put more pieces into the sets and maybe then it will feel finished instead of empty
@dylanverstraete5323
@dylanverstraete5323 Год назад
This is very true I own the dragon mountain and soldier’s fort (aswell as the brick bounty, the treasure island and the shipwreck defense) and although both treasure island and shipwreck defense are pretty good and creative ways to design a set. The brick bounty does feel empty however it doesn’t have the same charm as the bounty back from 2009 (I think). The kingdoms line had potential but they just didn’t capitalize. I own the mill village (luckily) and the 2 smaller sets aswell as the dragon knights’ fortress. But their best one was the kings carriage ambush. They just have to put more pieces into the sets and maybe then it will feel finished instead of empty
@MomentsOftheMagic
@MomentsOftheMagic Год назад
fantastic! i hope they do expand castle. there is a market for the lineup and i think that new people to lego would enjoy the sets as well
@Dreadwolf3155
@Dreadwolf3155 Год назад
Leog totally phoned in 2013 castle and 2015 pirates then concluded the fault was not in themselves but in the themes and thus abandoned said themes for a decade. As noted in this video castle 2013 wasn't 'bad' just was lazy.
@santiagomalagon6345
@santiagomalagon6345 Год назад
Agreed, l think the color schemes of the buildings and even the lion emblem were too juniorized. However the other great culprit is actually the abomination known as Nexo Knights
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber Год назад
"No castle sets hit shelves between 2013 and 2021" Nexo Knights: "Ok, I know we're more of a hybrid Castle/Sci-Fi theme, but what are we, chopped liver?" Also, regarding 2013 Castle, sure it was a small theme, but unlike 2015 Pirates at least it had more than one substantial set. Apart from Pirate Chess, which I don't really count since it fits better with LEGO Games, Pirates got a minor redesign of a 2009 ship and then a bunch of "minifigures with an excuse build" sets. Meanwhile, Castle 2013 got two full battle playsets and a completely new castle, and that was on the heels of the 2012 Kingdoms Joust which was a significant set.
@OurToyWorld
@OurToyWorld Год назад
Yes, Nexo Knights is chopped liver, lmao. But you're right, 2015 Pirates was nothing special either. Both 2015 Pirates and 2013 Castle were one wave themes, that came and went. Wish we had gotten another theme for both property but oh well, it is what it is. Thanks for watching!
@Gameprojordan
@Gameprojordan Год назад
Nexo knights is its own thing. It's a hybrid of space and castle. I wouldn't really include it in either theme
@Stormmover
@Stormmover Год назад
Castle downfall was after 1992. Nothing can compare with ‘84-‘92 era.
@OurToyWorld
@OurToyWorld Год назад
The royal knights and Fright Knights are pretty mid in my opinion. And I really don't like KK1 or KK2. That being said, I think Fantasy Era Castle and Kingdoms were two FANTASTIC Castle themes. They not only restored glory to Castle, but elevated it to new heights. Just makes me sad that after those two themes, which you could argue saved the Castle property from completely falling apart, we got 2013's Castle.
@dylanverstraete5323
@dylanverstraete5323 Год назад
@@OurToyWorldfantasy era is the best castle theme yet. The overall worldbuilding, unique buildings, figures and devices were just too good to pass on. There was also a set for almost every price category which each had their charm and could appeal to almost every castle fan in some way.
@wholeset
@wholeset 2 месяца назад
Castle 2013 isnt as bad as everyone is labeling it I mean the Figs are perfection and the color schemes are great and the figs are in my opinion better than kingdoms. The castles for the red dragon and blue lions do suck but other than that the set design is pretty good.
@riley_oneill
@riley_oneill Год назад
I like that they are just filling the gaps of the 1980s-1990s Castle. For the Crusaders we never got to see the actual major castle, until 2022. I remember having some of their sets as a young child back in the day thinking that they would someday make the real actual castle for the faction and not just outposts. I didn't think I would have to wait until I was nearly 40 though. It would be great if they filled in the gaps for sets that would have worked well from The Black Falcons to the Fright Knights as every set was missing at least one or two sets that should have been made.
@Joedex1625
@Joedex1625 Месяц назад
why not just generic castle pieces that I can make myself
@BrickAdjuster
@BrickAdjuster Год назад
Nice informative Video Richie 👍
@OurToyWorld
@OurToyWorld Год назад
Thank you Nik!
@DZstudios.
@DZstudios. Год назад
Awesome video
@OurToyWorld
@OurToyWorld Год назад
Thank you, DZ
@guttormurthorfinnsson8758
@guttormurthorfinnsson8758 Год назад
more castles for me.
@runkelpokk9
@runkelpokk9 Год назад
2013 Castle had pretty good figures, i liked this lion faction a lot more than the 1995 or 2000 ones which had only the lion head as a emblem as well
@OurToyWorld
@OurToyWorld Год назад
I don't disagree there. Honestly, towards the end of LEGO Castle's initial run and in the early 2000s LEGO put out some weak Castle sets and figs. What were they doing with Knight's Kingdom 1? No, 2013 Castle isn't the worst Castle property (I think that title belongs to KK2)- I'm just disappointed that they released two of the best Castle properties to date right before, and then seemingly dropped the ball immediately after. I do like how Castle 2013 was a relatively inexpensive line though, but I think it would've performed better if it was released in 2015 or 2016, not right after Kingdoms wrapped up in 2012. Again, by that time Nexo Knights sets were hitting shelves, so was there ever a perfect time to release this theme? Probably not.
@runkelpokk9
@runkelpokk9 Год назад
@@OurToyWorld KK1 had the Bull Knights which were a great faction with a unique approach, just a mercenary force with siege engines on the march, but the lion Knights they were fighting looked awful (same design as the 1995 ones just a few different colors) I have to defend KK2 if only for the Scorpion Knights, a villain faction in dark red was great, and it's a shame we never got another one. admittedly the first wave was pretty weak and most factions looked kinda bad, but the second wave had great factions. The Unicorns were the first dark green faction and its a great color for Knights, the Snakes had Sand Blue and Copper colors which are unique as well and the Yellow dragons (while they looked naked lol) were a great generic force to armybuild with. The sets themself were weaker than in the years before but faction wise KK2 was good. I agree Lego should have released 2013 Castle a few years later and just skipped Nexo Knights all together. My guess is that 2013 Castle sold worse than Kingdoms and when nexo Knights didnt sell at all lego decided to abandon castle
@filippoargonauti1488
@filippoargonauti1488 Год назад
Lego must reintroduce a castle theme! End of the story There are too many useless themes..
@ClassicStudStudios
@ClassicStudStudios Год назад
Just out of curiosity what are the useless themes you refer to? avatar? That’s definitely one of em
@filippoargonauti1488
@filippoargonauti1488 Год назад
I can write down an endless list 😂 here just a few: yeah avatar; friends; dreamzzz; lego city stuntz; marvel; Minecraft; sonic; brickheadz; overwatch
@ClassicStudStudios
@ClassicStudStudios Год назад
@@filippoargonauti1488 overwatch is already over, avatar is probably over, Minecraft and Friends are GREAT ( friends is my favourite Lego theme currently running ) and I’m pretty sure city Stuntz is also ended I mean you say “endless” but there’s not actually that many theme to begin with Personally I only ones I agree with are city stuntz, Avatar, and Overwatch ( 2 of which are already dead ) I personally wouldn’t call Friends or Minecraft useless, M is charming and friends is lego city 10x times better!,
@filippoargonauti1488
@filippoargonauti1488 Год назад
Anyway if lego cut some s...y theme they can make room for castle and Lotr
@ClassicStudStudios
@ClassicStudStudios Год назад
@@filippoargonauti1488 I mean I agree, but what do you mean “s…y theme”? What dose the S and Y stand for?
@stud_sidious
@stud_sidious Год назад
Shy bought to many falcon figs & lego was forced to stop production on castle sets due to lack of plastic...
@OurToyWorld
@OurToyWorld Год назад
You're not wrong, haha. Thanks for watching Sidious
@carlhvs9437
@carlhvs9437 Год назад
They should really do a Wolf Pack remake, or better yet The Black Knights..... you know without the feminist bullshit.
@ClassicStudStudios
@ClassicStudStudios Год назад
I’d love to see both of those return regardless of female knights!.
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