Today I'm taking on my greatest challenge yet as I try to fix Luke Skywalker from The Last Jedi, turning him into something resembling the hero we once knew.
Of course, all the script doctors were under orders to denigrate and assassinate the character of Luke Skywalker, not tell a story that made sense. Had The Drinker's script been handed to Lucasfilm, it would have been ripped up by Kuntleen Kennedy like Nancy Pelosi ripping up Trump's State of the Union speech.
The sad part is that there were no script doctors. Kennedy, in her all too finite wisdom, took Rian Johnson's first draft and used it. That's right, she green lite the first draft of a script without anyone looking over it! If she didn't wield outrage culture like a weapon she would've been shown the door for that.
Honestly, the whole "He lost everything" argument loses all ground when you realize that he lost everything in A New Hope and yet still continued to help
Well, he did not lose everything in TLJ or when Ben Solo killed everyone. There was still Han, Leia and others. In New Hope, he trully lost everything. And when you are at low, it does not destroy you anymore if you have been in a lower low.
Not to mention, he didn’t lose everything. Leia was still there, Han was still around, Chewie was too, and even C3 too, and he just bailed on all of them. That’s not Luke Skywalker at all. If he had some reason to be in exile it could at least be justified, but no he just said “lol fuck this.”
That was the fucking point of the OG films. It was a story about loss, making mistakes, learning and rising from them, going on in a time of darkness because there is always hope. Leia fucking lost her own homeworld in the first movie, yet she still acted as a leader to the Rebels. Luke lost his family and his mentor in the first movie. The Rebellion had a massive defeat against the Empire in ESB. Luke made a huge mistake by rushing off to save his friends while he was still unprepared; which led everyone (especially himself) to further danger. Luke saw the good in his father, and promised himself he would never turn to the darkness. Han Solo became a changed man, from caring only about himself, he grew to care for others especially Luke and Leia. These characters lost so much, did a lot of mistakes, yet grew and bettered themselves. Then years later the sequels f'ed them up.
Nah! I don't like. I also did not like the three new Disney Wars. I would rather have the new Disney Wars counted as non-canon. Then make 3 new movies that pick sometime off the originals, done right of course.
its like the drinker himself says; "if a drunk asshole like me can flesh this out in a couple of hours, what the hell is the actual goal of those idiots in charge of this fu€×in mess?"
Critical Drinker is a professional author ie a paid writer himself for fiction. And he almost certainly came up with this and wrote the script in his own time while thinking straight. He might have been drunk while recording but I doubt he came up with it while drunk.
The thing is, this doesn't just fix Luke and his arc, it also partially fixes those for Kylo, Leia, Snoke and a few others. Very impressive. The Force is strong in the Drinker.
@@adonaimelles2317 Omg. I don't even know what to make of this. Skimming it it appears to be full of a) typos and grammatical errors and b) some sort of misguided, misdirected fanboy rage that my short little comment doesn't warrant. I'm not gonna waste time trying to make sense of it. It just looks like defending bad storytelling to me, and your comment being borderline incomprehensible doesn't exactly give you a strong case.
@@adonaimelles2317 It's incredibly hard to read something that doesn't feature full stops (aka periods). If you want to have a civil debate about why you disagree with the original poster that's fine, but if you're not going to write properly I'm personally not going to waste my time decoding a giant meandering sentence nor justify it with a response, as was basically already said before. Not to tell you how to live but please, learn how to write.
@@adonaimelles2317 Dude, FYI I'm not bothering to read these, I skim them quickly and go "meh", so save yourself the trouble and go argue with other SW fans who give a damn. Cheers.
I'm mad at you for not having written The Last Jedi. This 21 minute video gave me what the entire sequel trilogy couldn't. A respectful closure for my childhood heroes.
The reason mark hamill looks so unhappy in that shot with rian at the premiere is: that was the first time hamill learned that luke skywalker was killed off in the film. He didn't know about it until he was sat in the theatre seeing it with everyone else. Rian even confirms this at some point, saying he only put in the death scene at the last minute on a whim. This is also the reason Luke just fades away instead of anything happening; they did that in post having not originally intended it. Can you imagine not giving a fuck about your film this hard? It was clearly designed to piss off older fans and make room for new ones.
Piss older fans Rian Jonson succeed indeed but he makes room for no one. Star Wars Merchandise are plummeted, the actors are spitting on the new trilogy. The only thing that works now is the Mandalorian which panders to the old fanbase, go figure.
@@jasonfarbo5109 I especially feel bad for Hamill because he really invested in the fans a lot. It must've killed him to see that, he really believes the whole real life mythos of the films and stuff.
Okay, so between this video and “The Drinker Fixes: Rey” can you please do a re-write of the whole trilogy?! The two “fixes” videos about the Sequel Trilogy are BRILLIANT and could absolutely be considered plausible alternatives to what we actually got
Wow. You made Luke's running away and hiding on an island, cutting himself off from the force, seem like a very noble and sacrificial deed. It does seem like something Luke would do. Not to mention it makes Snoke look like a more intimidating character. If Snoke could turn Luke Skywalker, Jedi Master, son of the chosen one, to the dark side, something not even his own father Darth Vader could do, then that guy's a threat. Love love love love love your re-write.
It would help Rey be less Mary Sue, but not entirely fix. Rey is a Mary Sue not only for her strength in the Force, but also for basically being better than the entire rest of the cast at everything (fixing stuff, flying the Falcon, etc.) and for rarely if ever actually being challenged. She's successful at everything she tries like it's automatic.
The thing is, Luke Skywalker has always been one of the movie characters that I have always identified with the most. The fact that he's a guy never made me feel like I couldn't identify with him. It was his actual character traits, personality, and beliefs that made him a relatable person to me who I felt I could aspire to be like when I watched the original trilogy as a kid.
That's because the people who can't indentify themselves with someone only if they happen to look exactly like them are shallow, vacuus and superficial people who care only about what someone's looking like. I found that as father, Sarah Connor was very relatable because that's how I wish I can act and be if my kids were put in great danger. Even someone who doesn't have kids can imagine what they do in a similar situation.
Luke: "I have failed you Ben, I have failed you" Kylo: "I should have known you would betray me!" Luke" Ben, Snoke is plaguing your mind." Kylo: "It is you who has plagued me! You who has haunted me, the Jedi shall fall." Luke: "Then you truly are gone!" -Kenobi's and Anakin's exchange in the lava river. I think something like this would have been super bad ass, and a great easter egg for people who can understand it.
Not ironically, but obviously. Characters exist in relation to each other and it's relations between them that makes them who they are. Luke was trash in TLJ because he became trash to people around him - to Kylo, whom he tried to murder, to Leia, whom he abandoned, and to Rey, whom he disappointed upon being known better. Once he becomes a failing, but ultimately deeply caring master and uncle to Ben, a loving brother who exiled himself in order to protect his sister from himself, and a resourceful teacher to Rey, who gives her important lessons about the Force and saves her with his smart use of his power when needed, he is suddenly once again the character we knew, not perfect, but always striving and capable of tremendous feats. And in reverse, Kylo stops being an emo deus ex machina to fuck people up or being fucked up, depending on what's needed, while Rey stops being a Mary Sue.
Rey etc are fundamentally poor characters and Daisy Ridley is the wrong actress. Ultimately you can't fix the story to the entire new saga is awful. It should have been Jacen, Jaina, and Ben Solo. Jaina is the hero jedi, her brother falls to the dark side, and Ben can be a lot like Han. Or you can take a variation. Either way Luke is their uncle and it's a brilliant way to transition from Skywalker to Solo. Yes i've taken a little from the EU but they can strike in a new direction. Either way my idea is the one they should have gone with. Oh and out goes Daisy Ridley and in comes someone with emotional range and not flat. Lilly Collins or someone like it.
@@JohnnyZenith I agree with you, except for Daisy Ridley. Her acting was the only thing that didn't make me outright hate Rey as a character. I feel bad for her. She should have gotten better material. TLJ should have been her moment to shine. Instead, they doubled down on making Rey a stereotype and not a character. As far as I'm concerned, the EU is canon. It's odd to me that they peddle this false narrative of wanting great female protagonists, and yet ignore Jaina and her aunt Mara Jade.
Ehh... It still leaves Finn's character ruined. I prefer more Uniquenameosaurus' take on the subject, where he has Rey go evil chasing after Kylo, and Finn go to train with Luke, such that, in the last film, he manages to redeem them both.
*LET'S NOT FORGET, THIS ENTIRE MOVIE IS TAKING PLACE LITERALLY THE NEXT DAY AFTER WHAT HAPPENS IN TFA. REY FOUND OUT JEDI WERE REAL YESTERDAY. WHAT A SHIT SHOW*
@RaceRed5.0Stang I disagree. The force awakens works perfectly fine in my opinion, in terms of plot and character at least (Finn is definitely the highlight of that movie). Rey being overpowered wasn't yet that much of an issue when Kylo was clearly wounded and not focused on his task because of his recent encounter with Han Solo. There are some issues with it, mainly with how it re-uses plotelements from the originals. However, it' still a decent film. The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker, however, had major issues throughout, with plot, character arc, and simple logical coherence. It's a major shitshow, and I can perfecty understand the fanbase wanting to get these films out of canon.
@RaceRed5.0Stang Agreed TFA was a reboot/retread of ANH because Jar Jar Abrams is a talentless hack who doesn't have the writing or directing chops to have the Republic start out from a position of strength. So he just decided to have the Original Characters become failures and completely forget all the lessons they learned throughout their character arcs from the OT. Allowing for the Imperial Remnant to be stronger than the New Republic Just so the film would be in his range ability to complete
@@RedFloyd469 Oh, come on... Like all the other characters in TFA, Finn makes no sense. He starts off the film rebelling against his superior officers because he doesn't want to kill people (that part makes fine sense!) and then what, turns right around and starts murdering his former brothers, who have basically been brainwashed since they were children, instead of say, seeking them out and converting them? Then he very sensibly wants to run from the First Order, but instead decides to stay because...why? He's known Rey for all of 10 minutes, and her motivations aren't exactly clear either. If the film spent a bit more time developing the characters and their motivations, it could have worked, but all it really has is some action sequences and loose plot elements that were basically ripped from the original trilogy, and some lightsaber fights that make no sense in the context of everything that came before. It's a pile of garbage.
@@SteelMoments I was always very bothered by Finn's having any social skills whatever. I mean, how does a kid who's been brainwashed and trained as a weapon for his entire life even have the concepts to say "have you got a boyfriend? Cute boyfriend?" So silly.
The fact this alternate storyline rerails Snoke as much as Luke makes me happy beyond words. In fact I'd be kind of interested in a trilogy-wide Drinker Fixes...for Snoke, just to see how this plot thread would play out. It was a criminal waste of Andy Serkis and a genuinely eerie antagonist.
Yeah, he was such an impotent nothing of a villain. They set him up as this ominous, mysterious, and powerful figure and then he did nothing but sit in that chair and then die.
"the way the character is constantly downplayed, downtrodden and disrespected, leaving us with a bitter, broken and defeated man with no dignity, purpose or agency." Reminds me of 'Picard'.
Also reminds me of Ash in Ash vs. Evil Dead. Watched the entirety of season 1 and I honestly don't remember a single moment where Ash actually did anything cool. His entire character went from being somewhat brash and overconfident, but ultimately reliable and even noble to being an utter joke of a human being. In the original movies (and particularly in Army of Darkness) we see him being the butt of the joke sometimes when one of his character flaws comes back to haunt him ("Klaatu ... Verata ... N....") and delivering the jokes in others "You're in charge of Jack and shit, and jack left town." I won't be watching any of the other seasons. It was like it was written by someone who hated not only the character, but also hated the people who liked the character.
My husband & I listened to this, (& your other fixes), & our reaction was the same… sitting quietly for a sec, then both of us thinking the same thing; ‘This man is amazing, a genius, & wouldn’t it be great if he was on Jon & Dave’s writing team.’ We really appreciate & are grateful for your work. Thank-you Drinker.
What I really like about this rewrite is the way it mirrors Luke's own training in Empire Strikes Back. Rae feeling the pressure to help her friends while being taunted by a Sith figure that implies a potential fall to the dark side is an awesome echo of the events of Yoda, Luke, and Dagobah
Imagine if they brought back Ellen Ripley for the next Alien atrocity, and they pulled with her what they did to Luke Skywalker. Instead of being brave, resourceful, and fiercely badass, they made her a passive and weak coward who now just lives in fear of the inevitable xenomorph invasion. Then a young, clueless dude shows up at her doorstep, having fought one alien yesterday after finding out they're real literally only days earlier. And we watch as he mansplains to her why she's all wrong, and begs for her help while she sneers at him, spouting defeatist and nihilistic garbage. Then we find out that she had sold out to the Weyland-Yutani Corporation and was the one who let the face-huggers loose on Newt and Hicks. And in the end, she dies needlessly, accomplishing nothing of substance. All of it just to "subvert expectations" held by decades-long fans and to push a loaded political message. People would be pissing their panties over the injustice. And rightly so. They never understood: We weren't angry because of Rey; nobody cared about her. It was always about Luke.
Funny thing is, Rian Johnson's plot for The Last Jedi is: *"Luke tries to kill Kylo Ren because he sees that he'll turn evil in the future, which is the catalyst event which turns him evil in the future"* ...is exactly the same plot of Rian Johnson's previous movie Looper, where: *"Bruce Willis tries to kill a kid because he sees that he'll turn evil in the future, which is the catalyst event which turns the kid evil in the future"* ...which sickens me. He literally used the exact same story event two movies in a row. And the worst part is... nobody noticed.
Believe me. You’re not the only one who noticed this. I watched looper (and that piece of shit movie brick) while gearing up for TLJ. I never liked his work on BB so I was worried the film would suck and it did. But I noticed he had just done the exact same thing he had done in Looper.
I noticed... but no one believed me... WHY DIDN"T THEY BELIEVE ME! WHY?!?!?!?! Got a lot of apologies and free beer a year later. I could have written a better trilogy than the Disney one. Wish they'd give me a million bucks or so.
My friends and I were under the impression, based on the trailers, that what they were going for was Luke suggesting that separating light from dark needed to end and that Grey Jedi, those who could themselves be the very balance of both sides of the force, could ultimately end this cycle. Each time throughout the Jedi history, one side would become more powerful and dominant, and so the force would balance itself by producing more powerful light or dark jedi respectively. To truly bring balance, the jedi would need to be able to embrace both somehow. Be disciplined yet not forsake their emotions. To embrace their "humanity" but not let it consume them. This is what I thought and hoped was what was gonna happen and is what the trailers, to me implied. But nope. Luke saying that it's time for the Jedi to die wasn't about abandoning the old binary ways which would have been better, lore consistent, and reasonable. What he meant was "Oh it's all bs and we should just give up because I'm an old fart who doesn't know better than a spunky Mary Sue who just believes and that's all we need"
This actually would be an awesome ending. And it totally makes sense with how we all have to grow as people. One thing I always hated about star wars and the Jedi was the idea that attachments are bad and don’t allow you to make good decisions. Because in reality the opposite is true for humans. Human children require strong attachments in order to become emotionally healthy, empathetic and strong people. Attachments to parental figures are so important and children raised in institutions instead of families fare far worse. So the Jedi taking their students away as kids just makes no sense. Your ending is just like how real people have to embrace the duality of life and would be such a lovely metaphor.
"abandoning the old binary ways" is a message that was desperately needed around the time of TLJ, especially with the political climate of the time. EDIT: By which I mean "abandoning the 'with us or against us' mentality". Yes, it could get misconstrued by purveyors of "the message", but, as Michael Stackpole once wrote in the _X-Wing_ series, it's easier to clean up puddles once the wellspring has been capped.
This is the problem I've had with the entire series. Though never openly expressed, at the end of Return of the Jedi Luke is the hero in black. He is both dark and light, hence his ability to both defeat and redeem his father. As a hero he was unique for the time. They completely ignored this for him, then set up something similar with Rey, then ignored it again. Choosing the books as non canon was a mistake. The film writers seem to be afraid of challenging our morality and stuck to binary thinking. How 1982 of them. I would give anything to see the New Jedi Order made into films. Imagine how many Yuzan Vong action figures they could sell with changeable parts as separate purchases. Hint, Hint, Nudge, Nudge Disney.
I also thought they were going this way and would further examine the implications of the philosophy of Star Wars. I thought Rey would end up being a chosen one like Anakin, from a series of many. They all failed to bring balance to the force, which is why a chosen one will be reborn until balance is achieved. I thought that through her, Luke and Kylo, they could explore The Jedi, The Sith and the something in between and reach the conclusion that being fuelled and consumed by negative emotions is as bad as obsessing over repressing any emotions to begin with. Both the Jedi and the Sith tipped too much at the far ends of the spectrum. It would tie in so beautiful with overarching story of the franchise. I would also explain the purpose for more movies, apart from cash, which is that the story continues for as long as a chosen one is required. It would also explain why Rey was unnaturally skilful at many things, similar to Anakin, so while not fixing the problems with her character, would at least provide an acceptable explanation for some of her MarySue -like traits.
It's far worst from what we got. While I love his videos, being a critic and a writer are two different things. It is way more boring and predictable, but apart from that there are things that would anger the fans even more: - Luke lashing upon Rey is out of character. He has abandoned everyone and tries to find a way to get rid of Snoke's manipulation. Someone with a his father lightsaber in a non aggressive position would not be an immediate threat to him. Makes zero sense. - Luke's mind being manipulated by Snoke is such a bad and lazy mechanic. Reminds of everyone trying tofix ROTS by saying palpatine killed Padme with the force to turn Anakin into the dark side. Those kinds of stuff are so lazy and uninteresting. Makes the characters lose alltheir depth, because the bad guy isdoing it to them. - Rey being angry for Luke not wanting to train her and lashing out with a force pulse or whatever is very childlish. It would look so stupid and out of character. Also Luke seeing that would have no interest in training her afterwards. Probably tell her to go see a mental therapist or something. - The whole Luke being force projected into Snoke's Throne Room must be the worst and craziest plot I have ever heard from Star Wars, it makes no sense from a million points of view. How did Luke supposedly landed on the ship and made his way to the Throne Room without getting captured? Why didnt Snoke know it wasn't the original Luke? How did Rey simply left the Throne room with all the guards that they had to fight in the original version, and the rest of the stormtroopers? In the original version the ship was in ruins so it made sense that she could find a hangar for Chewie to land on and take her, but in this version it is absolute madness. The way he imagined this scene was Luke appearing out of nowhere and everyone being like ok of course you are here Luke, I don't see a problem. Hope you are enjoying your VIP pass into the First Order's ships. Snoke suddently falls asleep after ordering Kylo to kill Rey and remains at the background. It's so stupid I can't believe he says this shit seriously. - It completely destroys all the scenes that made this movie enjoyable. The barrage of AT ATs to Luke, the spaceship ram, Kylo and Luke in the middle of an empty dessert fighting, Kylo Ren's betrayal to Snoke and cutting him in half and the fight with the guards afterwards, while giving us some lightsaber duels, which frankly we have seen a 12 times already. - His whole story arc is a sad ripoff from Empire Strikes back. It resembles it more than The Force Awakens resembles The New Hope and that's saying something. While the only thing I agree with him is that Rey should have trained with Luke for more time than she did, the wrapping of the situation is lazy, boring and out of place. Sorry Drinker, you have my respect, but writing cohesive, interesting and compelling plots is very hard. None of you are better than people being paid millions to do this job no matter how hard you tell that to yourself.
crazycodkiller You say that to be a critic and a writer are too completely different things, which they are, but I guess you don’t know that the Drinker is a published author. And even though some of the points you made were true, this obviously would not be how the drinker would write the last jedi if was doing it from scratch. The point of the video is to work with what he’s got with the movie plot, while changing the character. And if he actually wrote the movie, it would have of course been way better than this and what Rian Johnson did. You can have your opinions but what I think, and what most people think, is that a version of Luke lashing out shutting himself out for a protective reason makes more sense than shutting himself out just because he’s depressed and wants to die. So even though it definitely isn’t perfect, I think the drinker’s version is better.
AEIOU UOIEA If you don’t have a reasoning for the things you said, don’t bother answering. Fan fiction is widely considered incompetent and lazy, it is used as a way to describe bad scripts(it’s so bad it feels like fan fiction). Also you probably didnt understand anything of the things I said. The mental therapist part is a joke of how absurd that reaction would be from Luke. And how does the throne room scene he described would even work if what I wrote is so stupid?
Hell, I couild forgive a bad movie, doing a bad job, whatever...it's the sheer hatefulness, the snotty, snarky, self-indulgent _arrogance_ , the (if I may) SHEER FUCKING HUBRIS of Rian Johnson that I won't ever forget or forgive. Fuck him and fuck Kathleen Kennedy for being incompetent and fuck Disney for being afraid to admit to the horrible mistake they made in not removing her years ago.
Javier Sanchez I went through the same phase for a year after last Jedi came out because The Fandom Menace negatively influenced me. They made me hate Disney’s Star Wars for reasons I had never even considered before, and the fact I was practically lied too by their Fake sources also made me despise their channels for how much of their criticisms were built up from misinformation and lies. I was able to move on from the hate because I accepted the sequel trilogy for what it was, a Flawed yet exciting adventure. *I know I’ll get hate for this comment,* _but I’d rather share my true opinions towards Star Wars then Lie to myself for facts I know aren’t true._ And for the most part I’m glad I’m being more honest, because sooner or later Fans will move on from the hate just like they did with the Prequels, and that is when the Fanbase will hopefully be a safe place to talk about Star Wars again.
Agreed. Ruin Johnson is a creatively flaccid USC film school hack, who had no business writing Episide 8. He & Kathleen Kennedys collosal failure torched the Star Wars franchsise forever.
The battle between Rey and Ren on the ship could also present a new opportunity: Rey resisting the urge to use dark force powers. She COULD turn around the fight and win, but she actively chooses to not do so because she’s not ready yet, and risks her life by trying to reason, which makes her more Jedi like. Also Finn could save her from another falling boulder she doesn’t notice by using the force as well, like you mentioned in the other video about him. Not only is this a good way to subvert expectations, but it also fits the name of the last Jedi later on, because Jedi can also be plural.
All "Toxic fans" really wanted was one last chance for Luke to be a hero. One look at our childhood hero, at his oldest, wisest, and in some ways strongest going absolutely wild with the Force to give us the tiny bit of satisfaction. That could've been ALL you needed to make the trilogy not shit in the fans' eyes. Not objectively good, but at least not hate-inducing. And Disney shills couldn't even do that.
I think you said something there. It's been a long way down since 2012.We know now how much these people always hated George Lucas all along. And there are people out there who have been only too glad to spit their hatred and, above all, their contempt, for the fans who kept it all going.
Exacly, Just like Obi Wan did, as long as he went down swinging, most people would have been happy. I would have had him raise the xwing though to beat the falcon back to where the battle was ;)
This is my new Starwars head cannon. I love the angle that Snokes primary dark power is to manipulate people and events. Using the philosophy and mindset of the Jedi against them. I would have loved to see a climax where they faced snoke, both Rey and Kylo. I would love to see them on the verge of defeating them. Only for Kylo to take the final blow, and Rey stopping him. She realizes that someone was manipulating her, and she rejects it. That the way of the Jedi is not of vengance, but balence. Snoke admits that what he wanted was order, his backstory could have been from absoute chaos after the Empire was defeated, his family was bankrupted, and killed. Everyone he knew and loved gone by the chaos. The only cure for chaos is order "The first order", as it were. He also tells Rey her parents were killed by the Rebellion during their attacks. Both Snokes and Reys past shattered by the actions of the Rebellion, "How do you think I got these scars?" he screams out in a fit of angish. He flashes scenes of his childhood and suffering caused by the rebellion, and finally on her parents, perhaps working on one of the two death stars, to scrape together enough money for Rey to have a better life. Snoke hands Rey a necklace her mother wore, which could be alluded earlier in the movie. Then Kylo and Rey fight. Kylo desparatly trying to eliminate snoke as the threat that he has become. Rey, fighting because in her mind she has been fighting on the wrong side. All of her suffering, has been caused by the chaotic influence of the Rebellion. Rey is able to best Kylo, and leave with snoke. Wanting answers, but also seeing a kinship with Snokes tragic past and her own. Not as an accolite, but needing answers. The thrid movie could be Reys redemption. Kylo finally realizing he was manipulated and he sees the same happening to Rey. Maybe Kylo becoming the protagonist in the thrid movie. You can go from there.
Rey throws herself into training with determination, *failing at first* I can't say how much that retelling of Rey failing at first in her initial training makes the character so much better in my mind, instead of the character we were given where she does things perfectly, first time, every time.
Think he needs another drink instead as to help him get through this shit stain on the star wars series I suppose you could call a movie if your feeling generous. (Talking about The base movie, not his remake).
@@xephael3485 Did you pay any attention to what he said? There is no way he could work in Hollywood. The guy is paying to much attention to plot, character development, conflict and not enough time to lens flair and women being stronger than men. Not once did he mention making Luke a bumbling buffun. Next thing you know you will expect him to have Finn be a component military man trained to fight and understand military tactics. Face it the Drinker is doomed no way can he ever hope to reach the low expectations of Hollywood. His dog has a better chance.
Sometime in this Century the CGI of recreating actors will be such that they look real with no difference detectable. Thus will someone reboot this pathetic trilogy as it should be with Luke,Leia & Han together as they should be & this garbage will be dumped. Think of all the other franchises that can also be saved.
Unfortunatly (in my eyes) the only way to fix Luke is to bring him back to life, make him his former self! The oppertunist, the positive force energi, the "motivation aura" he has! ... the "always help my friends and confront my fears and enemies!" Luke! .. The life/ force spark and fire he always had, the protector of his friends and most importantly Luke realize JJ Abrams and Ruin Johnson was a bad dream or a Palpatine spell put on him he now breaks out off! HE cut the BS and self realize his own amazing JEDI GRANDMASTER POWERS AND EXPERIENCE LEVEL! LUKE IS AT THIS POINT MAX LEVEL... SUPERIOR GRANDMASTER IN THE FORCE! His enormous experience level is like a Kung-Fu Grandmaster! :D THEN AND ONLY THEN I can live with he teach and passes the torch after a final battle where Luke show his power lilke NEVER before! HE STUDIED the Jedi TEXTS! he is MAX LEVEL ! BUt he fight against the Emperor could cost his everything! so simple and A EPIC Rise of Skywalker alternate movie! (the Lukle cut! )
This is really good, high level understanding of what can motivate characters, much more psychologically believable than the crap we got. "Muh subverted expectations blah blah". When you said "I hate you with the force of a million exploding suns"I cheered.
"The world is fucked, everything is hopeless, and there is nothing you can do about it." An accurate description of our society that began in 2020 and continues to be the case in 2021.
Who would win the script war: - Disney with billions of money to spend on writers and directors - our boy, the critical beverage consumer with a few hours of time
Think about it, the MCU (honestly, i couldn’t even compare star wars to MCU. before the sequels i held star wars to a high regard) managed to have the peak of storytelling near the end. Infinity War (maybe even Endgame) have to be one of the best superhero movies, next to The Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rises, and Joker. If the ending to a saga based on comicbook superheroes which is filled with snarky humour is better than the ending to a 40+ year old saga... They’re doing something wrong.
Endgame made more money than Infinity War, and even TROS. Imagine how much money Star Wars EP9 could have made if it was good. 3 billion? It really sucks to think about the wasted potential Star Wars had.
A B This solution doesn’t get Luke either sadly... If he just drawn the blade then he can just explain to Ben what happend. ”The most powerful force user I have sensed tried to control me.” Ben has no reason not to belive this. And the power to control or influence that well over distance is too OP. Why not influence Ben directly? You could kill Luke if he did that. Sorry but this is not a good solution. It doesn’t really get Luke or the force. The best thing would be to scrap the whole plot and start over from scratch. Is it better than what we got? Yes, but it’s still not a good story or plot.
If Rian Johnson had made Titanic it would have been "You thought The Titanic would sink like it did in real life but I subverted your expectations by having it so the ship didn't sink and nobody died. Now tell me what a genius I am and accuse anybody who doesn't like it of being too stupid to understand it please."
The Titanic DID arrive safely in New York Harbor in "Ghostbusters II", (1989). The harbor employee at the dock (played by Cheech Martin) says "Better late than never!" lol
This is an excellent idea for Luke! Now to fix the rest: The sub-lightspeed chase can be intensified by having the First Order jump Destroyers in front of the rebels in order to intercept, which means the rebels need to fly erratically. A near miss can add the first bit of tension. The rebels need to have a second hangar on board for fightercraft. Kylo Ren destroys one, but we need Finn and Poe to fly an older crappy fighter when the second interception turns into a serious space battle. We can keep Holdo not telling Poe the plan, but make her tell him that because they get tracked throught hyperspace, they suspect there's a traitor on board. Hence the need to know basis. Have Holdo and Rose find the traitor during the space battle because of a hint from Finn or Poe. This allows us to cut the entire Canto Bight sequence, gives every character something useful to do and it fixes the pacing issues. The rebels escape and move on to the plan to take shuttles to the surface of Crait, but Hux finds out and starts shooting then down. That's where we pick up Drinker's version again.
Dude if this happened in the movies I would have actually liked them. As it is they left so little impression on me I didn't even remember much of what happened in them. It's amazing how much more talented you are than anyone who worked on these movies.
1. Invent time machine 2. Stop George Lucas selling to Disney 3. Pour youself a drink and sit back knowing youve saved millions of fans from crying out in terror watching the Disney trilogy!
Disney going under from this bug would be poetic justice. Let George be able to buy his ruined franchise back for a $1 McDonald's cheeseburger and a promise they'll enjoy hell with good ol Walt, Stalin, and Uncle Adolf, for all of the children hurt by Disney's greed. Good f***ing riddance.
Dude, it`s just a fucking movie! Who the fuck cares? Oh some SW dorks care? Fuck em. Star Wars was never that good anyway. Just a movie a little bit ahead of its time, 40 fucking years ago! Who the fuck gives a fuck?
No it was a slightly different garbage fire. Making Luke a paranoid moron isn't an improvement. In fact, it isn't that much different from what Rian did. Irrationally attacking an ally who brings him a weapon is if anything even more stupid than trying to murder his nephew because he had a scary vision.
In a beautiful twist of fate, I was directed to the Drinker from a drunk person at my favorite bar. He told me tales of how the Drinker fixed Luke Skywalker. I listened and watch on how masterfully the Drinker redeemed not only Luke, but the entire story. I’m not ashamed to say his version brought a drunk tear out of my eyes and caused me to drunk text this version of the story to both people that would appreciate it, and well, people that may not appreciate Stars Wars as much. But who cares? It is the Drinker after all. His loquacious stylings are great for all manner of subjects. But in the end, I just want to say thank you for giving Luke a fitting end.
It's almost like someone who actually cares about the source material could write a better story than overpaid hacks who just want their names attached to the latest summer blockbuster. Who knew?
Killing Snoke would only make sense if they had the balls to actually make Kylo and his knights the villains. Bringing Palpatine was the most desperate and dumb move I've seen from a major filmmaker company in my life
@@hitandruncommentor I mean, it sounds fun from a meme perspective, but in practice that would have been painfully stupid on a rewatch. Though to the OC: I don't think they could credibly make Kylo and the Knights of Ren the main villains from just TFA and TLJ. It needs a lot of changes to make that a workable possibility. Like, maybe the tiniest bit of fear?
Yep. Makes me so glad I boycotted TROS and all other Disney films after they bamboozled me into the theaters with TLJ. They fooled me once and never again, so shame on them.
9:00 - "She's frightened and intimidated by him..." Our invincible Mary Sue intimidated by a _man?_ Can't have that. Drinker, this is why your fixes don't work.
"I hate you with the dark fire of a million exploding Neutron stars." I wish I could summon up that amount of anger over it anymore. But like Luke, I am tired and just want it all to go away.
Agreed, furrymessiah. (I can still briefly work up that loathing after I've been enjoying the Old EU, and then I hear some Tism in the real world praise that shit heap of a movie. It flares up briefly like a hypernova.) Though I think the Drinker's sad, empty "go away now" at the end captures my emotional state better than anything else. Maybe Disney will use this crisis to change out the folk at LucasFilm in the name of budget cuts, and we might possibly see them hire some capable creators in their place... they'll be desperate for more money at the end of this. I hope they either leave the corpse of Star Wars completely alone to finish rotting... or they're so desperate for money they actually take the time to find the right people for the job. *cough* Timothy Zahn *cough*
@@AzureKnight2 Personally, I'd love to see an adaptation of the Jedi Academy Trilogy. But since that comes after the events of Zahn's novels, I hold little hope of ever seeing that come to fruition.
@@furrymessiahAgain, I agree completely. But I think a good writer could balance the two. Take Luke's arc from the Jedi Academy Trilogy, take everyone else's from the Thrawn Trilogy. And, of course, Luke and Mara's storyline from Thrawn and blending it into Jedi Academy.
I have a prophecy: One day, when woke feminist garbage rots away and the hard times begin to swing back, aided by the hard work of real dedicated fans turned professional. We will get amazing movies of the old republic and when courage peaks some intrepid soul will redo these movies and remake them good.
Turns out it's way easier to make a villain seem like a threat when he's allowed to actually get a win against the protagonist. Kylo is impossible to take seriously because he loses the first fight against Rey... they could have done better without Rey seeming weak by having her actually push him in a lightsaber fight only to get instantly ragdolled when Kylo breaks out the force powers. Great way to illustrate the difference between someone with force sensitivity and a properly trained force user, too.
12:16 That VFX edit is amazing. The saberstaff makes sense for Rey since she's used to a quarter staff. Also, if you don't really like the force projection, you can chuck Luke back into Crait during the climax, but as proof of the man being a legend. Him getting blasted by several walkers and blasters only to shrug it off would show how powerful he'd always been. No projection. And he could, let's say, say a quippy line: "Okay. My turn." And let's out a massive Force Blast that would shake the walkers down, leaving Kylo the last man standing amd them entering a duel.
Seeing The Last Jedi made me angry to the point that I dismissed it and haven't seen Rise of Skywalker. Easy to just forget this new trilogy. But seeing this, and knowing how little it would have taken to have a poignant sendoff for an old childhood hero and passing of the torch to the young, flawed, but ultimately worthy new hero.... It just hurts.
I watched TLJ opening weekend. I walked out of the theater completely confused by what I'd seen. The anger came later. Up to that film, I had watched every Star Wars film in theaters opening weekend since the Special Edition was released in 1997, and I saw Jedi during its second run in 1984. I've not watched a new Star Wars film since; not Soylo or the Ruse of Soywoker. And I won't.
Same I haven't seen it yet and I'm scared to, I want to confront the producers director s those responsible for doing this and tell them how bad they fucked up.
I had the exact same reaction to TLJ. I still haven't watched Rise of Skywalker and tbh I don't even care to...after TLJ I had 0 investment in any of the characters or the story and when I found out that they were bringing back Palpatine and Lando I realized how pathetic and desperate Disney's endeavour had become. I then saw the trailer and burst in a fit of laughter when I saw the space horsies riding on the side of the Star Destroyer (or whatever ship that was). Disney's Star Wars is an involuntary parody of Star Wars.
Brilliant stuff...As a life-long Star Wars fan, I have been deeply saddened by these new abominations. It's good to know there is someone out there fighting for our favorite heroes, and villians.
Still amazes me how this one film had: 1. One of the most complete, horrifying and depressing character assassinations of a beloved hero from any IP in any medium. 2. One of the most idiotic and boring 'chase scenes' run by the most idiotic leadership (on both sides) because of the mostly idiotic/agenda driven writing, Directing and Producing. 3. One of the most pointless 'side plots' every put on film starring a supposed main character, one of the most annoying 'diversity hire' characters, on a quest for something they don't achieve and wouldn't have mattered anyway. It's literally just a 30 minute long hole in the middle of the movie. Throw in lots of deus-ex-machina plot twists with established in-universe technology and the Force, a completely wasted Big Bad, almost no continuity with the previous movie (or it's successor as it turns out)... It's pretty impressive for this one movie to be this colossal a screw-up on so many levels. And almost all of it was there in the script, which should have been thrown in the garbage the minute it landed on a certain person's desk. But her malignant agenda made her blind to how incompetent the storytelling was. I was watching Mr. Baseball with Tom Selleck on a sports channel recently. Hadn't seen it before. Movie opens with his character at the plate, wiffing on pitch after pitch. 3 strikes, 4 strikes, 5 strikes, and on and on. The Umpire won't let him leave the plate. So he keeps swinging and keeps missing. Then he wakes up and realizes it's all a nightmare. That's what The Last Jedi is, one strike after another going on and on long after you'd say to any other movie "You're OUT!", but it just keeps swinging and wiffing on plot threads, characters, story arcs, themes, continuity, fan loyalty and any degree of respect for the fans, it's actors or it's own IP. But it's not a nightmare any of us can wake up from.... So sad.
Of course you can wake up from it. You can simply ignore TLJ or, even better, use elements which work to make a better version of it. Trust me, I've been doing this ever since Star Trek 2009 blew up Romulus(...yeah) and Warhammer Fantasy got killed off by a simple backstab(...fuck yeah lol). Ignorance, sometimes, is a bliss. That's EXACTLY WHY the original Jedi Code makes sense why the new post Odan version is a horrible crap. "Ignorance, yet knowledge" NOT "Knowledge, no ignorance"(wtf that statement IS IGNORANT!).
drinker might have invented the best video concept. every so often we have to rewatch this drinker fixes series, just so we have the corrected IPs to remember
I wanted to see Snoke crap himself when he lays his eyes on Luke. This guy is a Jedi legend. Force projection into the throne room is a serious statement of power and could have made for a triumphant show of strength for Luke. It would inspire Rey and make her see she has much more to learn from the old generation of heroes. Well done Drinker.
Here's why Disney did that ;) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MY8Nfzcn1qQ.html it wasn't George's vision, that's for sure....it was on purpose, you'll see why...
@@trooperjoe73 Luke, should have been "master Skywalker" in these films. The new teacher. Powerful and revered. Not a beaten loser that tried to kill his own nephew.
Yeah, Luke isolating himself because he was a danger to those around him and travelling to the first Jedi temple to learn how to fight off Snoke's mind tricks was so good. The script writers had all the answers laid out in front of them yet were completely blind to it all.
Hey Drinker! Thank you soooo much for this. I feel like I saw the film we should have been given. Brilliant! I actually got teary eyed at the end looking at the dual sunset with Luke and the main characters - wow! Bravo mate. Thanks again!
@@adonaimelles2317 That is actually not the problem. The problem is that Luke acts very differently to the same situations. He sees his relative engulfed with darkness and wants to correct the situation, in the original, he never gave up on trying to turn his father, whereas in the sequels, he just tries to kill Kylo even before he turned to the dark side. Everything we have learnt tells us that Luke was greater in the second scenario than the first, why did he chicken out? Just because of Mr. Ruin Johnson.
Neutron stars do not explode, they are results of TWO IMplosions. Also, progenitor supernova also actually IMPLODES, and then only 'explodes' by rebouncing from compressed core - giving 99% energy in neutrinos anyway.
I am amazed that you managed to incorporate such a dramatic improvement within the existing framework of the movie. Personally, I wish they had made the Timothy Zann novels into the sequel trilogy instead.
Darth vader: *literal child murderer* Luke then: There is good in him! Ben: *Does nothing, but Luke has a bad dream about him going bad* Luke now: omg gotta kill him because thats how I've always fought evil
You have to get them while they are young. This is why Anakin killed the young'uns ... he saw da future where they turned to the dark side ... but what he saw was a fake vision from palpatine a vision of the Knights of Ren. Epic. I just tied the Original the Prequels and the Sequels. Now pay me Disney.
@@bring-out My comment was mostly a joke. But yeah a more cerebral trilogy about Anakins fall would have been amazing. I have this headcannon where Anakins slave background has traumatized him, and making him vehemently hate heiarchies; letting people have power over him. And therefore his relationship with the Jedi order was doomed to fail because of this.
This is not what the good side of the force was supposed to be - Han Solo and Leia are divorced and miserable. Luke is bitter and a drunken old man. They killed the heroes and twisted them into villains and then made Mary Sue the one to fix everything by getting everyone woke.
@@ironwolfgaming9632 indeed. At first I liked seeing Han getting up to his old tricks but then it dawned on me that it's a huge step back for his character. We already saw him developing gradually from jaded loner to trusted friend and leader. It was sad to see he'd seemingly thrown away the roots he'd spent 3 movies developing.
I mean I'll be honest I never saw episodes 8 or 9 but I know what happened. Drinker really is an excellent writer. I forgot did he fix Season 8 of GoT I can't remember
Your take here in fixing Luke’s story in “The Last Jedi” would have been soooo much better and far more respectful than what we got. I’d rather see the film you came up with. Well done! 👍👍😎
I feel like critical drinker shed a many tears about Luke Skywalker and the way they butchered him. At the very end when Drinker says "go away now" it's almost as if all the energy and emotion had been exhausted from him. He's definitely a true Jedi and Disney needs to hire him to fix the sequel trilogy ♥️
20 years from now people will still remember luke skywalker, han solo and princess leia. But rey, finn and poe will long be forgotten. Thats how good the original star wars were. They touched an entire generation.
I think the only character that has the chance to be remembered for more than 2 years from now is Kylo Ren, which is the only one who got something resembling a character arc, but it all depends on what they do post-sequels with him. The others are so shallow and bland that there's no saving them.
Nonsense. They will be remembered as the finest examples of how NOT to develop characters, from the finest examples of how NOT to continue one of the most beloved movie franchises in cinematic history.
It’s actually sad because ‘The Force Awakens’ has cool elements to it and had the potential to be truly great- perhaps even better than the prequels. I recall the anticipation and hopes I had as a Star Wars fan after seeing the previews...
I want to thank you for this. I wish my husband had lived long enough to see someone flesh out all the ideas he and I shared over his beloved Star Wars. Tommorow would have been his 45th birthday and this is a lovely gift. He saw the first Star Wars in his stroller and the last just weeks before his sudden death. He and I listened to you often and I told myself I would watch this in honor of his birthday. I'm glad I did. Thank you, sir.
Wow I hope you found the courage and fortitude. It's been 2 years you write this. It turn out, 2 years ago I was lucky enough to be saved at the last minute by à liver transplant. It was the last movie I've seen in cinema and I was so angry about what they did. Hope you're doing better. Best wishes.
I like how your fix has some parallels to Revenge of the Sith where luke left Degoba before finishing his training. This could also influence Luke into training Rey as he sees his former self in her behaviour.
@@jonathanwells223 Shite! I didn't think of that. Scene: Rey discovers she is the original sparkly Jedi vampire (because a girl can't be seen being bit; because that's weakness). She then resurrects Han, Leia & others, you know, because she's like Jesus?
Yep Di$ney has always hated fathers in every movie the father is dead before the start of the film dies in the movie or is a fool/wrong/coward every single time
The whole "rey fails" thing doesn't make sense with TFA retarded nonsense. Kylo ren is a dark side user, that wound from chewbacca would have made him do better.
Very well done. I'm sad that this is not the storyline that is canon. It's a shame what was done to one of the greatest characters in my 51 years of life.
While it doesn't totally "fix" Luke, this is infinitely better. Unfortunately, the only way to truly "fix" his character would be to totally remake/retcon the movie/Disney trilogy.
Rey etc are fundamentally poor characters and Daisy Ridley is the wrong actress. You're right. The entire new saga is awful. It should have been Jacen, Jaina, and Ben Solo. Jaina is the hero jedi, her brother falls to the dark side, and Ben can be a lot like Han. Or you can take a variation. Either way Luke is their uncle and it's a brilliant way to transition from Skywalker to Solo. Yes i've taken a little from the EU but they can strike in a new direction. Either way my idea is the one they should have gone with.
If I was the writer for Episode 9, I would literally do the "Luke was having a bad dream" schtick. I would. All I would have to do is say it was Snoke trying to influence Luke (similar to what the Drinker has described here). I remember after the dust settled from the fallout of TLJ, I thought to myself, "That would be the only way to redeem this trilogy for me"
I dropped my keyboard the other day and amazingly enough, THAT wrote a better Luke Skywalker than what Rian Johnson was paid obscene amounts of money to deliver.
