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The ELECTRIC Plane with a $0 fuel cost ⚡️ 

Stefan Drury
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Flying the “Tesla of Aviation” - an electric plane powered by batteries. This electric plane cuts fuel costs and could be the future of flight training. Would you learn to fly in an Electric ePlane? I look at performance statistics, how the aircraft works, and go for a flight around Melbourne.
Thanks to Korum for the flight. For a full list of the flight schools now conducting flight training using the new generation electric trainer aircraft in Australia, visit: flyone.com.au/skycademy
Check out Korums channel (the Electric Plane Guy) here: / @electricplaneguy
This was not a sponsored video. I didn't receive any payment or goods for making this video. Fly OnE reached out to me and asked if I wanted to go for a flight. Korum was Pilot in Command for the entire flight. I wanted to make this video to help you make informed decisions on your flight training.
I asked ChatGPT about this plane, this is what it said: The Pipistrel Alpha Electro stands at the forefront of airplane innovation, revolutionizing flight training while significantly reducing costs. This cutting-edge electric plane represents a groundbreaking advancement in aviation technology. With its environmentally friendly and efficient electric propulsion system, the Pipistrel Alpha Electro offers exceptional sustainability and economic benefits. Flight schools and training centers worldwide are embracing this remarkable aircraft for its exceptional reliability, ease of use, and low operating costs. As the demand for sustainable aviation solutions grows, the Pipistrel Alpha Electro emerges as a key player, embodying the future of flight training and paving the way for a greener and more cost-effective aviation industry.
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@GlensHangar
@GlensHangar 11 месяцев назад
I guess in the future we won't need active noise reduction headsets? On another note; a lot of comments about how this is useless because the range is so short... baby steps. You have to start somewhere and improve; just 100 years ago we were flying aircraft made of wood strips held together with animal glue, covered in fabric, powered by rudimentary 20hp engines. Without these early pioneers, improvements will never be made.
@poochie5543
@poochie5543 10 месяцев назад
The issue with your statement to me is the fact that we’ve worked batteries and motors for a long time already and with the knowledge of aircraft design, it really does seem like a dead end.
@807800
@807800 Месяц назад
@@poochie5543 Not really. The first commercial Lithium-ion battery was only introduced in 1991, that's just 33 years ago. The first highway-range capable EV, the Tesla Roadster only available in 2008, that's just 16 years ago. And unlike cars, the weight of the battery is much more of an issue in aircraft. It really is just a start. But with the proliferation of EVs, the research on high capacity batteries would only increase.
@sfadhjkl4112
@sfadhjkl4112 10 месяцев назад
Keep in mind the batteries used in this plane have an energy density of only 155 Wh/kg, but there's already companies shipping batteries with 3x the density (e.g. Amprius), so we can expect much better range in the near future.
@jpscharged
@jpscharged 9 месяцев назад
Cool story. But unlike car's, planes are already maxed out on efficiency. Let's take this plane with 50mins flight time. 3 times it's current efficiency is 2.5 hrs. Let's say battery tech maxes out at 3 times that efficiency or 7.5 hrs run time. That's still less than half max range now. Battery tech will have to have a massive novel technological breakthrough to meet current capabilities. Incontinental travel is still possible on smaller distances and mid flight recharging or catapult/recycled launch battery packs/rocket assists for take off as the energy to get to crusing speed is a big hit on range for large passenger A/C especially.
@Blxz
@Blxz 9 месяцев назад
@@jpscharged 2.5 hours flight is very good for many GA use cases. I get you are talking about NY to London style travel and that is something electric is not suited for but if current tech can manage a 2.5 hour flight with the right battery then that's a massive swathe of potential flights that could be fully electric.
@someoneelse7629
@someoneelse7629 8 месяцев назад
And in what applications are they proven to be reliable? Right, they are flying with the absolutely best batteries avalible, there will be better batterys in the future, but that will be atleas 5 years away before they are concidered proven for airplane use.
@ianmangham4570
@ianmangham4570 7 месяцев назад
​@@jpschargedIntercontinental 😅not a weak bladder 😅
@dianapennepacker6854
@dianapennepacker6854 6 месяцев назад
​@@jpschargedWait till we get some Lithium Air batteries! Over 5.2kw/Kg max therotical... If you include air... Luckily we don't have to bring our air! So excluding Air it is over 1.1kw/kg! So say we reach half that we are getting 5,000wh/kg, and that is more than enough for most flights. Batteries have so much potential in getting lighter, charging faster, and energy density. Definitely would be cool to get to a decent range. Electric planes won't be able to hold as many people either. Yet the savings in fuel cost will make a switch so much more enticing. Airliners will just need more planes or more flights. Then you'd have to factor in propulsion. I'm not too knowledgeable on electric jet engines honestly. The one alternative fuel I just don't see becoming a reality is hydrogen... The volumetric density is ridiculous. What is mind boggling to me is water holds more hydrogen per liter than pure liquid hydrogen... Makes no fucking sense.
@fireonthegrom2728
@fireonthegrom2728 9 месяцев назад
As a student pilot with only a few hours under my belt this aircraft would be a game changer where I live. We have a beautiful lake about 10 miles away and another airport about 15nm away with a tower. I cant hardly afford the fuel cost right now to go fly and get in my hours. This would speed things up a lot and it would also be less intimidating for beginners not having to worry about mixture and oil pressure and all of the noise associated with the exhaust, and the added benefit of not having to breath in leaded gas fumes. However I love vintage planes and eventually I still want a nice piston plane, but if I could afford one of these I would get one just to go fly around that lake!
@stephanemandelert4321
@stephanemandelert4321 4 месяца назад
Since my pleasure is flying for the sake of flying, the quiet that an electric motor brings is a game changer who totally compensate the anxiety range.
@nickroberts3658
@nickroberts3658 11 месяцев назад
Can see battery degredation over time being a big issue especially when you've already only got 50mins best case. It'll be interesting to see how this gets regulated. This is really exciting technology though and lowering costs for training would be a great outcome.
@vumba1331
@vumba1331 10 месяцев назад
One company that has an electric aircract is experiencing extreme battery degradation after some 200 flights, making it a non-starter economically. Apparently the rapid rate of discharge, and charge, really affects the life, not to mention that more energy is used in making of the battery pack than if they just used a normal ICE. Just sayin'......
@experimentalcyborg
@experimentalcyborg 10 месяцев назад
@@vumba1331 "not to mention that more energy is used in making of the battery pack than if they just used a normal ICE" Please don't spread misinformation.
@poochie5543
@poochie5543 10 месяцев назад
⁠@@experimentalcyborgplease enlighten us how an aluminum engine is more degrading to the environment than a battery. I just did a quick google search that said that it takes 500,000 pounds (250 tons) just to make on Tesla battery😂
@Dimrain13
@Dimrain13 10 месяцев назад
@@poochie5543 It is based on the initial creation of any given battery, but when you consider recycling and its usable life it always offsets the larger upfront cost. I have had 3 EVs and that is a conversation that comes up ALL the time. People just dont want to research all the details and want the fast answer when normally its only 33.33% of the actual answer.
@poochie5543
@poochie5543 10 месяцев назад
@@Dimrain13 An ICE engine too can be recycled. After TBO they are shipped to meet specifications again and can be given back to the owner to be installed again. Just because you say a battery can be recycled, doesn’t mean that battery the whole thing will be recycled. About 5% of it will be recycled (which is a joke).
@swissaviator04
@swissaviator04 11 месяцев назад
As a pilot of the Velis (the certified version of the Alpha in Europe) who has made his 1st solo in it, I have to say that this aircraft is perfect for basic training and patterns works. For my case, I saved around 15% by doing 1/3 of my hours in it. And to be fair, yes the range is pretty bad for an aircraft, even though I can still do some sighseeing flight of about 40 minutes but it seems like in a couple of years we could go twice as far as now with battery technology improvements.
@BlueSideUp
@BlueSideUp 11 месяцев назад
Sadly: No. Batteries have hardly improved the last decade because the limits of the cell chemistry are close, and new cell chemistries with the right combination of properties are not in sight (except 100 miracle battery announcements per year that never materialize). It's a technology dead end. Electric planes will need to wait for H2 fuel cells and tanks that are there, but everything needs generations to get into the GA market that hardly attracts investors. How many extra hours did you need to learn to also fly a SEP plane for the rest of the training? Most likely more that the savings on the 1/3rd electric hours. Sorry to say that, but I fear it's true.
@Seventh7Art
@Seventh7Art 11 месяцев назад
@@BlueSideUp laughs in 4680 Tesla batteries...
@Dinulik762
@Dinulik762 11 месяцев назад
​@@BlueSideUphow sure can you be but also wrong at the same time😮 not only that there are many technologies in development, but they are also being implemented / tested while writing this message😊 Sodium batteries are already on the cars and the solid ones are tested + those on oxygen, plastic and air are announced. Leave your mentality behind because there are many possibilities because there are large electric ships and even tanks 😅 Electric is the future not hydrogen because it becomes an ecosystem with what you already use not with what you never had 🎯🍻
@BlueSideUp
@BlueSideUp 11 месяцев назад
@Seventh7Art Tesla is actually a good example. I had one of the first MS in Germany, about a decade ago. It was sold with 8 years warranty on the battery. The 80 kWh weight was about 750kg, a little better than 10 kg per kWh. It was dramatically reduced in charging speed by over the air "update" because it would not have survived 100 kW charging at superchargers for 8 years and Tesla didn't want to be forced to replace the batteries for free on warranty. Since then, there was neither a significant increase in gravimetric energy density or sustained charging speed. To become usable for real flying, a plane with 45 minutes safe endurance would have to increase minimum a factor of 5, and survive charging of that in 30 minutes and still have that endurance after 12 years. That's the battery electric dead end. Progress slows as physical limits are getting close (for the current cell chemistry that fulfills all requirements best), was maybe 20% last decade. A factor of 5 is not going to happen, not even a (useless) factor of 2. And I am the first to clap and cheer if a new cell chemistry is found that is practicable for an airplane and has 2 kg/kWh energy density and charges at 2C from 20%-100% SoC and doesn't burn after a crash and is affordable and is available in terms of resources, and isn't to big in volume, and... if would be nice if the required power plant to charge planes at 500kW each would be at every airport. Sadly...
@swissaviator04
@swissaviator04 11 месяцев назад
@@BlueSideUp I passed my SEP with less hours than most of the others student pilots of my flight school so I actually didn't have to do more hours than them. And regarding the battery technology, I'm not saying that in 5 years we'll see electric airliners, and I even think we'll see no battery powered airliner at all, but for the Velis we'll have better batteries, I asked someone who works in the battery industry, and he says that the batteries are in the process of being certified and we'll have between 1h30 and 2 hours of flight time with them.
@tenou213
@tenou213 3 месяца назад
I'm really liking the focus on a training use case. Easy to set up, fly out, come back, recharge, do it again. Also, electric engines have much finer digital metrics and remote management. The range anxiety would also really push an emphasis on flight planning. Normal planes of this size have multiple hours of flight time.
@rogerbarr2671
@rogerbarr2671 11 месяцев назад
Stef, I was at Lilydale on Sunday for the Lilydale Flying Club’s monthly BBQ. Korum was there to give us aviators a presentation of the same aircraft. And what was our main question of concern? Range Anxiety! He did well and answered all our questions. That man knows his stuff! It’s primary role as a trainer is where it is well suited. Not so good for longer distances though. Perhaps in times when batteries improve, it will improve its range.
@StefanDrury
@StefanDrury 11 месяцев назад
He is very knowledgeable on the aircraft for sure. Also I didn't tell him I was going to ask that question in the air, so his reaction was a very genuine one.
@PilotFlo
@PilotFlo 11 месяцев назад
I guess it is a viable tool for basic training for smaller airfields where you can basically start the training right above the field and don't have to fly several minutes to a training area. But considerung no one (in the broader public) had thought 30 years ago that electric cars would become a practical option, I say lets see what the future brings.
@FlightX101
@FlightX101 10 месяцев назад
imo in its current state its a great tool for students to save money on shorter one hour lessons. Then for cross country and ifr work you can switch to a gas plane
@masonprov
@masonprov 11 месяцев назад
Great insights! Thanks for sharing.
@mackenzienowak6346
@mackenzienowak6346 10 месяцев назад
Airplanes noise, prop chop, speed picking up, and A bang 💥
@fineartz99
@fineartz99 11 месяцев назад
Entertainingly informative; well-presented!
@marcel-koks
@marcel-koks 11 месяцев назад
I flew the same type last year in NZ (ZK-EAL), and i was really impressed by the performance and smoothness. It also reminded me of flying JetA1 Robins with FADEC in Europe, with the ease of engine control. I truly believe this is a way forward, and i won't hesitate flying more electric, if i would get a change.
@SC_AVIATION
@SC_AVIATION 11 месяцев назад
Nice work Stef .
@DP-jd1by
@DP-jd1by 11 месяцев назад
Great editing once again!
@glennwatson
@glennwatson 11 месяцев назад
Also worth noting lilydale in eastern Melbourne are flying pipistrel electrical planes now for RA training.
@garygoh8984
@garygoh8984 11 месяцев назад
Fantastic video!!
@Rhythmattica
@Rhythmattica 9 месяцев назад
Fantastic channel to Stumble on..... Subbed.
@daveh6356
@daveh6356 Месяц назад
Thanks for the video. I like your range calculation based on 40-minutes flying time, then the cut to the display showing 42 minutes at 70% power. Solar panels couldn't sustain flight but if you're caught short or want to protract the range a little, surely it's worth reconsidering.
@wayneschenk5512
@wayneschenk5512 11 месяцев назад
Been following his Journey introducing this aircraft to Australia looks to be getting traction.
@brendinventer6407
@brendinventer6407 10 месяцев назад
Wicked! Never knew you were at Moorabbin coming next year for flight training.
@stewartabel
@stewartabel 11 месяцев назад
Stefan, thank you, this was really amazing. I am a PPL trainee and this inspired me and opened my eyes. Thank you!
@effinator
@effinator 10 месяцев назад
Interesting, I haven't looked into this until now. Thank you for sharing!
@VL3861
@VL3861 11 месяцев назад
Quite an amazing aircraft...great video Stef!
@StefanDrury
@StefanDrury 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching.
@ramsey2155
@ramsey2155 7 месяцев назад
I like how, while they're in flight, they often gaze out the window or the sides but then suddenly stare at each other as if they don't know where to look.
@jordanryan673
@jordanryan673 11 месяцев назад
I thought I had range anxiety driving a Tesla 😂
@Derderderheisst
@Derderderheisst 11 месяцев назад
great video pointing out the positves! thanks
@StefanDrury
@StefanDrury 11 месяцев назад
Glad to share this new technology with the community. Thanks.
@NicolasMeunier
@NicolasMeunier 11 месяцев назад
Nice! here in Annecy, France there is one flying around.
@marsman7746
@marsman7746 11 месяцев назад
Great stuff Stefan … as progress is made to improve energy density in batteries we’ll see more of these in the future
@Design_no
@Design_no 11 месяцев назад
What progress has been made in recent years? Big fat zero.
@email2markt
@email2markt 10 месяцев назад
​@@Design_no It's tripled in the past 10 years and many reports of 4x increase on top in the pipeline. The cost has reduced by 90% over the same period.
@poochie5543
@poochie5543 10 месяцев назад
⁠@@email2marktI’m gonna need some sort of link to where it says this, no way they took a battery 10 years ago and a one from today and saw those increases.
@sandydennylives1392
@sandydennylives1392 6 месяцев назад
Solid state batteries are here, NASA have just made one.@@Design_no
@chiefpenguin
@chiefpenguin 10 месяцев назад
I can see the attractions of electric a/c but for now at least surely it's best to train in ICE aircraft where you learn about engine management, magnetos, icing, carb heat, rapid cooling, etc. These are all things you're going to encounter in the current GA world. So once you've got a PPL then yes I can see that's going to be fun, reducing work load, quiet, modern, sexy etc. but to train, no, not yet. Great vdeo though. I defo want one!
@JoeyBlogs007
@JoeyBlogs007 11 месяцев назад
It lays the groundwork for practical use. i.e. pilot training. When the new battery technology hits the market offering double the Wh/Kg, it could lay the groundwork for short range commuter aviation. Also hybrid technology could make it even more viable.
@DieTomate
@DieTomate 10 месяцев назад
Uses old Battery tech. Already @ 3x wh/kg
@marvinsmith4322
@marvinsmith4322 11 месяцев назад
Great update on the Pipestrel Stef, seen a few on it since its been around the UK
@StefanDrury
@StefanDrury 11 месяцев назад
Thanks Marvin, appreciate you jumping in early to watch it.
@kelicrew575
@kelicrew575 11 месяцев назад
Always see them flying at Jandakot in Perth. They are so quiet, I never realise they are right above me. Great vid too Stef!
@owens_aviation
@owens_aviation 11 месяцев назад
I'd only begin to consider purchasing this plane if the range and endurance of the aircraft was increased... great video though! Love how quiet it is. Cool plane 👍🏻
@Peacewind152
@Peacewind152 11 месяцев назад
We just got a Velis at my flight school in Ontario. I want to fly it at LEAST once before I move on from the school.
@rounderone8437
@rounderone8437 7 месяцев назад
This is the future. Constantly improving battery technology plus aviation-grade solar cells covering the wing surfaces.
@BrianAnim
@BrianAnim 11 месяцев назад
I feel like it would need double the range to be a good trainer. Here in So-Cal it can take 15 minutes easy to just get out of the terminal area and to an un-used training area for practicing manuvers. That only gives us time for like 30 minutes of manuvers before heading back.
@SimonAmazingClarke
@SimonAmazingClarke 11 месяцев назад
Excellent video. There is an electric aircraft in America that can fly two hours as an ultralight, or four hours as a PPL A aircraft. Training in the Electro provides cheaper training up to cross countries then a gas one would be required for the longer trips, but this would save thousands of dollars. As batteries get more capacity, and lighter, the future is very interesting.
@StefanDrury
@StefanDrury 11 месяцев назад
Thanks Simon, glad you enjoyed this one.
@morre6748
@morre6748 9 месяцев назад
Which aircraft are you referring to? I want to learn more about that
@Avgeek1564
@Avgeek1564 11 месяцев назад
I'm going for a flight in one of those later this summer. A company called London Airsports operate them from Damyns Hall Aerodrome in Essex.
@CaptainSultan
@CaptainSultan 11 месяцев назад
I passed my type rating earlier this year on the Velis Electro. It is a great aircraft to fly in. The availability of power (how quickly it reacts when you apply power) is great. I also love the propeller stopping when you go to idle. The flight school explained that the aircraft is a huge success with eco-conscious aspiring pilots. They said that their customers are not the typical flight students but often older people that always wanted to fly but had an issue with the pollution. The anxiety range is indeed an issue, I remember having a battery issue while working in the pattern. We made a short circuit and landed quickly and safely.
@lau4893
@lau4893 11 месяцев назад
You need a type rating for the Velis Electro?
@sierrakilogulf
@sierrakilogulf 10 месяцев назад
That is pretty asinine considering how environmentally unfriendly mining lithium and cobalt is. Chances are the batteries are also being charged by coal and natural gas.
@lau4893
@lau4893 10 месяцев назад
@@sierrakilogulf avgas is still several times worse than lithium batteries
@WPMWW
@WPMWW 10 месяцев назад
That video is the biggest fear of a young dreamer wanting to be a pilot
@hanswallner2188
@hanswallner2188 2 месяца назад
Consider that the battery technology used in the Alpha Electro is about 10 years old, with todays batteries range would be double, and battery technology improves constantly, research labs expect at least double to triple capacity possible compared to what we have today. There is definitely a huge future for electric aircraft. Insane high efficiency, power can be produced locally with photovoltaics or wind, extremely low maintenance, no regular meaintenance of the engine... imagine what magnitude of savings we are talking about. And off course much less noise and no pollution !
@tomdchi12
@tomdchi12 11 месяцев назад
I'm very much looking forward to future iterations of aircraft like these!
@pingpongun8519
@pingpongun8519 10 месяцев назад
With the new battery technology that just got introduced, i think this will go well. It’s made with silisium instead of graphite. Can charge up to 100 miles in 5 minutes. And they will make it 100 miles in 2 minutes by 2032. This is mainly made for cars, but they plan on designing each battery for each client, so if an airplane manufacturer orders one, they will make it fit for the plane. It’s currently being tested by unnamed car companies and is apperantly blasting through expectations. So for once, i’m actually very optimistic about electric planes.
@LtColDaddy71
@LtColDaddy71 10 месяцев назад
So basically, the entire range of the aircraft is about what one should carry as an emergency load of fuel, above and beyond the estimated requirement for the trip. This is just for flying around the farm, or your airport.
@AnthonyGriz
@AnthonyGriz 11 месяцев назад
As a training craft Stefan, I think this is a good option in the short term until even better technology comes along that doesn't rely so heavily on the electrical grid. However, as a personal craft to own for the longer term, and as much as I love to see innovation in almost all areas of life, this would not appeal to me with earth's weakening magnetic grid, and the likelihood of more issues with electrical components and equipment in general from geomagnetic storms and solar flares. Additionally, as battery life decreases, so too does the range of the craft. Great to see the technology being showcased though, as it may inspire others to create a whole new type of technology that won't rely as heavily on batteries or fuel.
@stevenewtube
@stevenewtube 11 месяцев назад
First up, great content! Had a thought, no much discussion about pilot work load, engine management and so on; looks like it’s less to do. What’s your thoughts?
@corbinschuster2664
@corbinschuster2664 11 месяцев назад
Stefan, have a look into the E22Spark from Bader Aero, might be a subject for a future video! Saw it and sat in it at the Adelaide Motorsport Festival. Good to see money being invested in these types of aircraft
@srpacific
@srpacific 10 месяцев назад
$0? Who paid for the electricity?
@AnthonyHigham6414001080
@AnthonyHigham6414001080 8 месяцев назад
The electrical hook up is wired into next doors system so the power is free.
@arturvolpi
@arturvolpi 11 месяцев назад
I'm more on the side of looking at it as a prototype, but it certainly has plenty of potential. Cool video, Steff.
@StefanDrury
@StefanDrury 11 месяцев назад
Thank you, glad you found it useful.
@mattlewis1063
@mattlewis1063 11 месяцев назад
Agreed. This is just the next step but certainly a LONG way from taking over the combustion engine market. The invention of solar panel wings (as mentioned in the video) would probably have to be completed to become competitive. And not to be picky, but paying for electricity to charge the batteries is a "fuel" cost.
@tannermcnabb4836
@tannermcnabb4836 7 месяцев назад
Really excited about electric aircraft like this and others. As other comenters are saying re: this aircraft's battery energy density vs existing new tech, the flying time can already be greatly improved. A general aviation aircraft that could readily handle 2-3hour hops would mean tons of recreational and shorter range commercial flights could become electric. Thats a lot of flights, to remove leaded aviation fuel burning engines from.
@christophermorin585
@christophermorin585 11 месяцев назад
Almost there. Probably good for pattern practice. But my lessons were 1.2-1.5 on average. Once the battery can be twice as good, I think it'll "take off".
@ElectricPlaneGuy
@ElectricPlaneGuy 11 месяцев назад
How much of those lessons were spent in the run-up bay? ;) Since the price is less than half.. just do twice as many lessons. That way you're getting twice as much training for the same price.
@sierrakilogulf
@sierrakilogulf 10 месяцев назад
@@ElectricPlaneGuy It takes about 5 minutes to check mags, carb heat, and cycle props if you are in a complex aircraft and even less in a 172/152 which 99% of students will be in anyways.
@mysteryunknown1139
@mysteryunknown1139 10 месяцев назад
Flying over the ocean and you hear this. "Low Power Please Land Soon"
@ivantcherniaev7548
@ivantcherniaev7548 Месяц назад
My first EV was a Nissan LEAF. I had to have it shipped in because local dealers were not yet offering it. I would barely make it to/from my office, 55 miles total. Several EVs later, I drive my Tesla wherever I need to go and I honestly can't remember the last time I was worried about my range. I know that airplane progress is going to be slower, but I think that even today the technology is there to give this airplane an extra 30-45 min. So with 1.5 hours plus reserves, it should be able to handle just about any local training flight. Perhaps even a short cross-country if there is a charger at another airport.
@jesperhammarlund300
@jesperhammarlund300 2 месяца назад
the advantage with planes vs cars is that they fly above the clouds. so they can get full solar power so if they place solar panels on the wings and body of the plane that will surely improve the range while in flight
@johnbaker8512
@johnbaker8512 11 месяцев назад
Satisfying the x-country requirement for a PPL in the US in this plane would be scary.
@Vito_WH
@Vito_WH 28 дней назад
One cool thing is that you don't loose power as you go up, since oxygen is no longer a necessity given the lack of combustion
@OmerTheGreatOne
@OmerTheGreatOne 10 месяцев назад
0$ fuel costs? Because electricity grows on trees!
@RyanGuttermann
@RyanGuttermann 2 месяца назад
"$0 fuel cost" so I guess electricity is just free now
@cosmicystn3626
@cosmicystn3626 10 дней назад
right
@vitaly6312
@vitaly6312 10 месяцев назад
Pretty clear that we aren’t there yet. In the us, a cross country flight is regulated to be 50+ nm which this would have a hard time completing. Adding a VFR or IFR reserve regulations and you’re done for. God forbid you run into fog and have to divert. Too low a useful load, too small a range. We’ll get there; but that ain’t soon.
@email2markt
@email2markt 10 месяцев назад
Great video! If battery density triples again in the next 10 years it'll be a total no-brainer
@emperorofthegreatunknown4394
@emperorofthegreatunknown4394 10 месяцев назад
I doubt it. Denser batteries = more dangerous batteries, I can imagine suffering a fire in flight would be impossible to recover from if it is a battery fire.
@LaurensPP
@LaurensPP 10 месяцев назад
​@@emperorofthegreatunknown4394Eject the batteries and do a glide landing would be the only option.
@emperorofthegreatunknown4394
@emperorofthegreatunknown4394 10 месяцев назад
@LaurensPP how would you eject the batteries? It's got to be a manual release that works while on fire. If the batteries are in the wings, then are you ejecting the wings? You need the wings to fly. How much does the ejection mechanism weight? The batteries will be more vulnerable to a fire if they have to be exposed to the outside to allow an ejection.
@email2markt
@email2markt 10 месяцев назад
@@emperorofthegreatunknown4394 I'm not sure i'm convinced. It sounds a bit like the EV fire argument. In that scenario the reality is EVs catch fire 100 times less often than ICE cars and they're not 100 harder to deal with
@browntrousersmoment
@browntrousersmoment 10 месяцев назад
@@emperorofthegreatunknown4394 Fire is nice understatement, more like explosion.
@RFSTuberYT
@RFSTuberYT 11 месяцев назад
I've always wanted one. Maybe soon I'll get rec license
@final3119
@final3119 10 месяцев назад
3:30 bro you got that puppy dog hair
@Jonzynator
@Jonzynator 10 месяцев назад
thats a stay in the pattern type of aircraft for me
@L1nus16
@L1nus16 2 месяца назад
i used to know a guy who flew one of these down to the bahamas and back. I got to fly it a few times and man it is a nice aircraft for sure.
@jfc241
@jfc241 10 месяцев назад
50 NM miles is not so bad as a cross-country. I would love to fly one of these, hopefully prices will go down for training now.
@barrydraper
@barrydraper 11 месяцев назад
👍 Great video! I'd like to see Toyota's tech with hydrogen fuel cells, see if it could improve that range anxiety a bit.
@bruceross-smith9176
@bruceross-smith9176 11 месяцев назад
Solar was discounted but what about wind generation at 80 knots??
@RomanChaar
@RomanChaar 11 месяцев назад
what's the most efficient cruising speed to achieve the most range with it?
@CityWhisperer
@CityWhisperer 10 месяцев назад
My question is, is training on an electric aircraft to then most likely fly on conventional fuel aircraft really what you want?
@aayankamran6327
@aayankamran6327 10 месяцев назад
0:27 nice
@skyearthocean5815
@skyearthocean5815 10 месяцев назад
I can see a potintial safety risk with the prop stopping. In a gas plane you yell clear prop and start it and anyone with half a brain knows that it’s now a dangerous place to be, but with it stopping people may mistakingly think the aircraft is off and walk up to it just to have it start moving again. Perhaps a safety measure would be to keep it moving slowly, or have lights or sound or something.
@ThreeTwoVictor
@ThreeTwoVictor 10 месяцев назад
The only downside I see to not having a spinning prop while holding short is if this thing doesn't have good AC for when it's 80+F outside.
@user-nb9kd6yp2j
@user-nb9kd6yp2j 10 месяцев назад
Can u use this aircraft to build hours for airline?
@georgeswindel8367
@georgeswindel8367 11 месяцев назад
Very interesting indeed. Superb for local training.But how many airport will have the charging units/facilities?
@Mike_Costello
@Mike_Costello 11 месяцев назад
This one only needed 3 phase powering a AC-DC converter/charger he had in the hanger through the window. Like anything it will be demand driven. Also Airports have so much hangar space with roof tops not being used there is tons of room for solar installations to support this as well. I think as time moves on and opportunities arise, solar and batteries and better infrastructure will come to be anywhere it is needed.
@poochie5543
@poochie5543 10 месяцев назад
@@Mike_Costellomaybe in a couple decades, still struggling with electric car power stations and now with Tesla falling and huge competition, we might even see different car companies with different charge stations🤷 I personally will never buy an electric plane because to me a running engine is half the fun.
@TENpilot
@TENpilot 10 месяцев назад
Electrification is the future, but it's still a bit hard to grasp.
@dennisjohnston3180
@dennisjohnston3180 3 месяца назад
Don`t forget the higher you go the colder it gets, and battery efficiency drops dramatically . More range , more batteries more weight less payload etc.
@johnhogan5766
@johnhogan5766 11 месяцев назад
Are there safety concerns with battery powered aircraft? Either in terms of batteries failing in-flight, or fire...
@MisterFixit69
@MisterFixit69 10 месяцев назад
Range is real simple , do you fly on 5 % tank of gas? ( i dont know im not a pilot) do you drive on 5 % gas? rarely when i just missed my exit or that gas station is a bit further than expected . the same with electric cars and planes, so a 30% reserve is in my opinion very safe. Im also curious to that charging station , you are holding a standard 3 phase connector meaning there would be a charger on board, the charging station is just a device delivering and limeting that power, yet you say the charging station converts AC to DC , so the charge plugs are completely different from normal charge points, it would make sense to not have a onboard charger, but that limits your charging locations. i think there is some miscommunication about that. Im also very curious about any faults and what happens when 1 cell drops . All in all amazing product, i would love to see more of this.
@sweetbix1839
@sweetbix1839 11 месяцев назад
Thanks Stef for the video! Is this similar to the electric aircraft you flew in SA a little while back? I am optimistic and excited for electric aircraft, I think it’s great what they have developed so far, gotta start somewhere. The distance of the first powered flight was only 120ft!
@StefanDrury
@StefanDrury 11 месяцев назад
Yep, same model as the one I flew in Adelaide.
@poochie5543
@poochie5543 10 месяцев назад
180 feet boss*
@fred-e-vision2457
@fred-e-vision2457 7 месяцев назад
I have battery run yard equipment and battery duration has increased greatly from when they were new, now 3 or maybe 4 seasons old.
@tds456
@tds456 11 месяцев назад
The range really isn't there yet, even for training. We have a 45 minute reserve time over here, which is nearly the entire endurance of the battery right now. And in our school, lessons are all 1hr+, even just circuit training clocks an hour. At the rate technology is going, maybe in a few years it'll be a viable intro trainer, but I can't see it getting to being suitable for the cross country lessons.
@CaptainG1001
@CaptainG1001 11 месяцев назад
I SAW THIS when I was flying LWX
@azrubs593
@azrubs593 10 месяцев назад
looks a lot like the flight design ctls that i fly. only difference is is have 7 hours at 115kts 😭 hopefully we see some battery improvement soon
@jfpilot7100
@jfpilot7100 11 месяцев назад
The other I was at an airfield in sweden where one of those electric plane operate, and one striking element is the noise. There are so quiet compare to traditional petrol engine. But useful load and range remain too small. Excellent video, like always
@StefanDrury
@StefanDrury 11 месяцев назад
The reduced noise is definitely noticeable compared to a piston aircraft. Thanks for watching.
@jesusfon5619
@jesusfon5619 10 месяцев назад
Electricity costs money no matter how you explain it.
@alvincheng809
@alvincheng809 День назад
guess we don't need to lean the mixture anymore
@aircon2000
@aircon2000 11 месяцев назад
I'd love to fly one at Moorabbin but the website doesn't show them being available there (yet). Is that correct?
@michaelfranklin9130
@michaelfranklin9130 11 месяцев назад
I’ve seen it heaps out at Lilydale, could be worth calling there?
@mikemalone4729
@mikemalone4729 10 месяцев назад
Electricity is free? Batteries don’t perform well in extreme cold. How is the range in the north during the winter and you get up to altitude where it’s colder?
@tjnholmes
@tjnholmes 10 месяцев назад
Love the plane. Its needs three times more run time minimum before I'd even consider it.
@classicraceruk1337
@classicraceruk1337 11 месяцев назад
When I was learning to fly I always had at least 90 mins in the air. This does not include taxi and hold times. That aircraft would be useless for training. How do you do the cross country flights?
@jackb303
@jackb303 10 месяцев назад
especially when doing IFR, where you need 45 minutes of extra cruise “fuel”. impractical
@mikeabc5355
@mikeabc5355 10 месяцев назад
"0 fuel cost" What is the free source of electricity that you use to charge the plain with? What is the cost of battery replacement? How many years will you get out of a set of batteries? No, it is not "0 fuel cost" It is a very high fuel cost and horribly short range that will get progressively shorter as batteries deteriorate. I wish people would be honest regardless of what narrative they are pushing.
@M4Mnetwork
@M4Mnetwork 10 месяцев назад
After my airfield was trashed for being built without planning permission, my ideal LSA would be one that runs on bats with a decent life time, is trailerable and self-rigging and derigging.
@addisenking2982
@addisenking2982 11 месяцев назад
It's always a problem when someone talks about range on an electric transporter whether its plane, car , bus. But then we look at the technologies we have and the opportunity it gives us and then we realise how much better it is and how range is also the same on all transporter since day one of their creation! GREAT VIDEO by the way!
@carholic-sz3qv
@carholic-sz3qv 11 месяцев назад
Ramge has actually significantly increased by alot with all the advances in technology, composite Materials, designs, aerodynamics......
@Design_no
@Design_no 11 месяцев назад
Nice story but factually incorrect.
@poochie5543
@poochie5543 10 месяцев назад
@@carholic-sz3qvI am confusion, electric aircraft aren’t old.
@theworldssexiestman
@theworldssexiestman 11 месяцев назад
perhaps in the small print....."*** batteries not included", always seems to be the case when I buy things. Jerry
@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk
@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk 10 месяцев назад
Here’s a second phrase “price anxiety” 40p per KW makes this more expensive than a jet.
@rexjamo
@rexjamo 6 месяцев назад
I get range anxiety more often flying an A380 with 200,000 kg of fuel on board than I do driving my Tesla for the last four years.
@barnabyzelman
@barnabyzelman 10 месяцев назад
It's a snappy little aircraft but not ready for prime time. Will be interesting to follow the progress of electric aircraft over the coming years.
@TheAbdo0
@TheAbdo0 10 месяцев назад
Extendable wings just in case you need to turn it into a glider lol
@calibos3329
@calibos3329 10 месяцев назад
Zero fuel cost. Unless you figure in the cost it takes to charge...
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