The End For QD OLED? - TVs and Monitors in 2025 

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you gotta dial the clickbait back a bit man jesus

Qd-oled panels might have their problems but their colors are better than anything else

1. You're right that Samsung Electronics never believed in QD-Oled and considers Microled the true successor of LCD. 2. Samsung Display will not go back to LCD miniled production they sold their patents and manufacturing to TCL CSOT. 3. If QD Oled is not seen as competitive in the tv and monitor space Samsung Display will probably speed up development on QD-Oled's successor QNED(Quantum Nanorod Emitting Diode not to be confused with LG Electronics' LCD branding).

I'm an optimist. This means they're invested fully in microLED.

Samsung stopped caring about making the best product a few years ago. They have made it their priority to make the most profit per unit. Even at the expense of better quality and a better product. Happened with their phones and their warranty.

i just got my 32inch QD-Oled Monitor from MSI wich is the only one that is somewhat available in Europe at the moment and i have to say i am very happy with it. Colors response times, just the usual quality of an Oled! As someone who only had WOLED so far i must say that the amount of light the QD Oled absorbs is quite irritating. as soon as their is the slightest bit of daylight (not talking about reflections, just ambient light) in the room the entire display looks grey. It is not a dealbreaker for me but its definitely a lot more annoying then i thought because it takes away that inky black look i am used to on my WOLED.

Samsung did themselves no favors by waiting so long to even get in the OLED TV market in the first place. LG had nearly a decade to themselves in that market allowing them to absolutely dominate the market share in the OLED TV market. Most people when they hear OLED TV, they think about LG.

Thinking of getting a LG G4 instead of a monitor next black friday since i mostly play singleplayer games nowadays. it absolutely blew everything else away when i saw it at the store this week. including tv's and monitors.

I have a Sony QD Oled, A Sony LED and a LG Oled as tv's .. And the QD Oled is my absolute favorite to watch movies and series on. It just looks better. At least for the money I paid for it, here in the Netherlands (price at release was 4400 euro, when it went to 4K a few monts later, I made a deal for a huge discount of 700 off it, as well.), I got what I expected... the best TV A95K at that year. I am also in the market for a Asus QD Oled monitor, as a add-on. It would be a shame if QD Oled would stop. Its beautiful to look at, it really is.

it'd be sad if QD-oled's gone, since WOLED has severe color volume problems, but the average consumer doesn't care about that. But truth to be told if QD-OLED was to go away i'd just be looking at mini/microled instead. Absolutely done with WOLEDs.

Hi. I am thinking about buying the asus 540hz but so should i wait for the 480hz oled if I’m running hdmi or display port to usb c

What do you think about the Asus ROG Swift PG32UCDM?

after doing my own research i decided mini LED is better for my own use case. OLED does look amazing but mini LED ticks all of the boxes for me (and its cheaper)

I just wanna point out that your first point (that Samsung Electronics buying LG WOLED displays means they don’t believe in QD-OLED) is in disagreement with an analysis from Linus on LMG Clips that I just watched. Linus’ take was that Samsung Electronics (different from Samsung Display) was buying WOLEDs from LG Display because they’re cheaper than QD-OLED and they felt that this might put pressure on Samsung Display to drive down the cost of QD-OLED, which would be a win/win for Samsung Electronics. I’m curious what you think of this take.

Hey. Wanted to buy ROG PG34WCDM, but following your advice, and not. Would you recommend something instead though? Curved, 34 UW, and has hdmi 2.1? Or should I wait until Samsung releases its gen 3 OLEDS? Thank you in advance.

Thanks for bringing the news

4:22 the cable moved

Im prettt happy about getting the s89c 77 inch for only 1799! In usa its guaranteed qd oled gen 2 and will take a macro shot with my phone to check pixels just in case

So would you not recommend buying a QD OLED now? I was considering the S90C.

I just got the g9 oled now starting to think I should return for the g9 57inch mini led

I have more faith in QD-OLED because strictly the logistics behind it. I doubt Samsung would invest so heavily into OLEDS just to then back track and go back to LCD anyway in less than 3-4 years. Especially since the monitor side right now is seeing resounding success. All of the technical issues are already being solved soon. Brightness/burnin etc. I just don’t believe that Samsung would abandon their really only large market segment to LG just because of some changes. It’s worth it to them to stay in the game.

Mini led monitors are actually more expensive in my country than QD-OLED one. Amoled monitors will hardly able to able replace qd oled anytime soon.

Laughs in s90c.

Now I am stressing out because I was about to get a 4K 240 Hz qd-oled monitor and I am concerned I should give something else instead

Why people are not talking about the new QDEL display that SHARP has created which is considered to be the pinnacle of display technology

Not gonna panic yet.. if this happens LG better figure out a way to make colors pop like QD OLED.. otherwise we are going backwards instead of forward

All Samsung needs to do is fix black level raise under light which they already have a fix for but aren't doing yet. With that out of the way I think QD-OLED is the objectively better buy for 99% of people.

Ah well. There goes my dream for a 45inch Ultrawide QD-OLED 🙃

Samsung Display sold to Sony at huge price , Samsung TVs dumped them on the market . No trust for a 3rd party- I mean 77" QD-OLED for USD 1900 in the States . I read this story a few days ago . Yes workers went to other projects . But they will keep production , probably improve yields etc and tweak. Also probably in a holding pattern, waiting Blue Pho-LED . Apparently both Samsung and LG promising 4000Nits on display side ( not on TVS ) . This is because they want to stack 4 layers. So depends what workers , developers/scientists or project/manufacturing. Maybe some went to develop their own MLA , Samsung likes to copy. So TVs will continue , probably most boost will be in the Monitor space , Samsung needs to up sizes to compete with LG in 42" to 48" , though more 36" needed . Same for MLA+ LG Display probably sells 65" for OK price , but big price for 77" and 83" Yields is everything the Japan Oled consortium struggled for years . TSMC is the best at getting yields with things that take 300 steps plus . Every step needs to be like 99.9% successful and that would only give 74% success rate ie .999 to power of 300 Given that things that were incredibly hard 30 years ago , 2 bit companies can do easy now with right tools

Didn't samsung figure out how to prevent burn in using new materials? So they could jus implement them into qd-oled

Blue light of quantum dot was oled killer since the day one. I never considered to buy any samsung qd-oled ever. It is way too expensive, no dolby vision, no adequate gaming features implemented.

I think QDEL will overtake both types of OLED As long as there isnt some major flaw they arent talking about QDEL is -Single layer(supposedly) with the light and color being created on the same layer -CHEAP AF being able to use existing LCD manufacturing lines with very little modofication(no need to have a vacuum sealed production line, high heat, or special gasses, the real reason i think it will take over is cost, imagine a 25 inch 1440p240hz QDEL thats only $300 and has color/contrast just as good as QD-OLED) -(Possibly) easy to create a pixel layout that follows the standard LCD to help with the annoying fringing around text.

Sony is pushing miniLED as a flagship product now too.

LG has first move advantage, better pricing, and better availability. I mean you go on their website and can instantly get 15% off anything with a promo code that's worked for months now - plus cashback using credit card offers and other sites. They'd have had my business with their 27" monitor already if the coating on that one wasn't so egregious. Pricing is good on some models, but Samsung QD-OLED monitors just can't get it together with their availability. QD-OLED colors are better but not everyone can live with that magenta tint. I do think in general the tech will be short-lived. I don't know what it is but my eyes agree more with W-OLED in terms of eye strain and comfort.

I'm just sitting here wondering why the old and flawed Neo G7 and G8 are still the best 4K HDR LCD monitors, and Samsung won't seize their lead in this category and release an updated version that fixes their issues. OLED is cool and all, but for as long as it won't reach over 400 nits in most scenarios and suffers from burn-in, mini-LEDs will have a purpose. They shouldn't be completely abandoned in the OLED gold rush.

The fact that Samsung Electronics is purchasing panels from LG Display is just as much geopolitical as it is pragmatic for both entities. Just this year Samsung Electronics is punishing BOE by not purchasing their ADS Pro panels due to some trade secret infringement. LG Display is facing tough times as they have the capability to ramp up production of OLED panels but LG Electronics is not a sufficient seller in the space to sell enough units for their production. So in comes the highest volume player in TVs, Samsung Electronics to buy panels from LG Display to get their production plants to where they need to be to turn a profit. Also for Samsung Electronics, buying panels from their South Korean competitor is better than getting increasingly priced gouged by the Chinese panel makers especially in light of the trade secret fiasco. Your opinion on the S95D, which is purely based on the panel coating is also not evidence of Samsung Electronics nerfing QD OLED. The S95D has been independently measured at 1700-1800 nits 10% window sustained and 2100 nits 2% window. If you’ve been keeping tabs in the first 3 years of the technology, the flagship product implementing it has had a 40% improvement year over year. If anything the anti glare coating is a move to popularize QD OLED displays to a wider audience. Multiple reviewers have stated that the finish on the S95D is also not cheap and plasticky looking like most matte coatings, but its own new implementation that still looks ultra premium. If anything, QD OLED is so good and relatively cheaper to manufacture that it may have stalled the production of other future display tech like micro LED, QDEL etc. from getting into the mainstream consumer space for a decade. Your channel is also dedicated to reviewing about products from 5 or 6 partners of Samsung Display in the monitor space, so manufacturers are buying QD OLED. Also the Sony A95L is fairly widely known to be a 2 Year carryover so the panels are being bought but they’re going into a 2023 model which is why you don’t see QD OLED tech in the 2024 lineup although it will be sold concurrently with it and remain the flagship along with their new Mini LED model. As mentioned above LG Electronics has enough supply of OLED panels and pressure to sell them from their display arm that they cannot purchase from Samsung display even if their wanted to. If you’re looking to be an objective reviewer and a serious player in the testing and recommendation space, you have to start checking more of your biases at the door and accept there are more reasons that companies make decisions that are not driven by absolute performance or to please enthusiasts. Ultimately you gain consumers by making the best product but you cease to exists if you don’t make money on it. All your points in this video I think were invalid in proving your click baity title. You can do better.

The choice I made here in my setups: AW3225QF for PC QN90B for console and media

Not saying that your 2025 predictions are incorrect but some of your evidence is. While yes there is the original sense of a panel lottery in place(i.e. whether or not Samsung Electronics actually may not give you the panel you were aiming for, which is a at least 2 decades old of a practice), where Samsung Electronics may use WOLED panels from LG Display, not just Sony is using that panel tech in 2024. I wouldn't call that supporting evidence. The Samsung S95D *is* using the latest QD-OLED panel at least for some sizes. There will be plenty of S90D as well that are using last years generation of QD-OLED. Also, the A95K from Sony is a 2022 model. The A95L is a 2023 model and is expected to carry over for all of 2024, or least until summer. That also uses QD-OLED from Samsung Display and are still very much in production. Sony has not abandoned QD-OLED for this year. And now there are other branded computer monitors based on QD-OLED that have an improved subpixel layout for text. Koren Samsung Display wants to make QD-OLED because they are no longer interested in LCD which is dominated by Chinese panel makers that can use cheaper labor to make profit. Samsung Electronic has been reluctant to adopt QD-OLED because they spent a decade attacking LG OLED for burn-in. They have to slowly reverse their marketing.

Let's see how much actually 4000-nit content actually shows up. I worry about the content before I upgrade the hardware. If we start seeing an influx of 4000-nit content, especially on streaming services, I'll likely upgrade.

My opinion why Manufacturers dont buy qd oled tv panels. Reported very fragile coating of Qd oled panels. Only heard such problems about Qd oled panels.

Could be possible they are trying to add a actual different model to their portfolio. Since they pretty much have two versions that are near identical and a flagship, along with being able to see which one is really the future.

I hope not! Loving QD OLED monitors!! Unless they come out with something better I want them to stay

So I should cancel my gigabyte aorus fo32u2p?

I need a good oled tv not too expensive any recommendations anyone ? And why would you recommend it please anyone?

I don’t think QDOLED is dying soon not with the way Sony adapts the technology especially with their new chips coming out this year. They’re definitely going to destroy Samsung QDLED. I was going to get the S 95D just because I have a bright room but the controversy with this TV just makes me want to check for the G4 or the 95 M

Sure, in few years maybe but now QD-OLEDs are the best.

The cat looks most concerned if QD OLED will still be around~

here i am getting ready to buy a new qd oled model every year to get next years models with dp2.1 and then the year after with higher peak brightness and so on , my poor wallet. maybe we never get to see them. also i do not find the roadmaps for samsung and lg display for 2025 anymore?

Only thing QD is superior on now is their colour saturation, other manufacturers have caught up with the brightness and surpassed it, they figure the colour saturation, QD won't be that special anymore.

I dont see QD-OLED going anywhere. Samsung doesn't just develop new technology like this for funsies. I think they will continue to refine the tech, and once more of its flaws are sorted out it will be the only choice for panel makers When a casual sees both side by side, the wow factor comes from QD-OLED colors, not from black levels. With some optimization of lighting conditions you get both.

8:15 I thought there was a hair on my phone.

Bro where’s that g4 review 😊

You are working on a false assumption. Samsung can still have QD OLED even using OLED panels manufactured by LG. QD OLED has a blue pixel emissive layer and a QD color conversion layer for the red and green pixels. For a large enough customer like Samsung a company like LG used to manufacturing panels for other companies would definitely be willing to make a custom line of blue pixel only panels for Samsung to integrate with their QD color conversion layer tech. Given rumors abound that Samsung are having problems integrating the more efficient, longer life blue PHOLED tech that was recently announced it is possible that Samsung are going to just buy this part from LG in the interim.

Another possibility is that Samsung are close to breaking ground on blue nanorod LED tech again.

Dude we're all still waiting on your tutorial on how to buff out the matte finish on monitors....whats going on dude and why are you not responding to our requests???

Sorry bro but this whole video is clickbait and I basically wasted 10 minutes of my time. Do you actually believe Samsung will abandon a technology that is superior than LG's WOLED panels? Have you actually seen an S95D TV? You are blasting it's anti-glare screen without seeing it. Most reviewers that saw it absolutely love the anti-glare matting.

Samsung doesn’t have a qd oled problem it has a marketing problem. It’s hard to compete when every reviewer downplays all lg flaws and over exaggerates Samsung and Sony flaws. LG has the influencers all in their pocket. No other explanation for the c3 outselling the s90c. Performance isn’t even in the same realm yet lg sales are sky high because of the influencers.

Qd oled leaves red tint in black scene and I dont like it WOLED has pure black black

Dont listen to his conclusions TFT central already listed and other websites long time ago go a 2025 oled monitor roadmaps, they will work with lg for sure but will never abandon this tech, monitors and tv are so good looking they cant take the risk of producing less beautiful colors because people will automatically feel the downgrade and will never go back. Monitor is a god damn niche and qd oled here are selling rly well they cant risk to sell us future downgrade as we will automatically see it and they wont make any profit.. His channel is a litteral clickbait nothing is official and yet he is writing bulshit title to make views like 95% of his channel

How the hell did I get unsubscribed

MiniLED sucks compared to QD-OLED.

mini led 1 oled 0 😂

MicroLED will crush all.

1. Samsung electonics and samsung display are two different companies. Samsung electronics using Woled and Qdoled is no different than Sony doing the same thing. 2. Sony makes a Qdoled! The A95L! This is such uninformed trash.

I had the MSI 27" QD-OLED monitor and it's awesome. There are no problems with it, aberrations, text etc. I replaced it with an LG 240Hz LCD over durability concerns, nothing else. I'm a very intense user. I do want mini and micro LED over anything else. I'm replacing my old Samsung plasma TV with a Sony LCD. If Sony made a 55" microLED model that would be perfect. I think QD-OLED is here to stay and evolve. S90C TVs are flying off the shelves in every BB in my area according to the salesmen I've talked to. They'll get more sales to other vendors as their own sales results increase. The problem seems to be why they're buying WOLED panels from LG, production issues? That's the real question. I love QD-OLED, it's the only OLED I'd buy for a TV. Just prefer being able to use my TV in a living room upstairs with the windows open so I'm more interested in microLED. But you aren't going to beat the S89C for a basement setup.

QD-OLED is garbage. WOLED is much better.

Samsung Display QD-OLED for TV's have 2 huge problems because they only sell from 2 TV manufacturer's. Samsung Electronics (problem 1): Lack of QC, shoddy build quality (s89 in particular but s90 too), only 1 year limited warranty which doesn't include burn-in and even when it qualifies they try to weasel out of. Firmware updates nerfing performance. Basically the Samsung disease that is Samsung. Sony (problem 2): Sony makes excellent products but because Samsung Display is overcharging for the panel they are priced completely out of their class. When factoring sales outlets, literally twice as much as their competition. Sony has officially abandoned qd-oled panel technology going forward (most likely due to this) and has said they are going with mini-led for 4k nits and to regather profit margins. Meanwhile the LG G4 has now already eclipsed the only 6 month old A95L. Sony also plans to sell a WOLED panel later this year to fill their market niche for these consumers. This is essentially the death nail for qd-oled tech in the high end television markets.