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The Entire Star Trek Timeline Explained 

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@GrungeHQ
@GrungeHQ 4 года назад
Best series of Star Trek: GO!
@TrekkieBrie
@TrekkieBrie 4 года назад
DS9 for sure.
@Daeduluus
@Daeduluus 4 года назад
Well anything is better than the new Kurtzman garbage
@avenuePad
@avenuePad 4 года назад
The Original Series is a given. Some of the best scifi ever written, especially in the first season. DS9 would be my second choice. That one series has classic scifi stories, mixed with political drama, and war. You can't really go wrong. Plus it helped pave the way for more serialized television. I'm very excited to see what Star Trek Picard has to offer.
@Cory_Dora
@Cory_Dora 4 года назад
TNG
@obedientsole6443
@obedientsole6443 4 года назад
Voyager: why because the Borg is like the main antagonist in the 4th season
@zexonhairi7215
@zexonhairi7215 4 года назад
I love how star trek doesnt try to just throw out the reboots they actually take what happened before the kelvin timeline and just apply it. So in that means spock is dead and Romulus is destroyed from the super nova.
@AllYourBaseAreBelongToU5
@AllYourBaseAreBelongToU5 2 года назад
No, it’s a 100% different timeline and not canon. Due to rights, the Prime/Kelvin timelines had to be 25% different from the canon.
@TIG5574
@TIG5574 Год назад
​@@AllYourBaseAreBelongToU5This has been debunked over and over again. I really wish people stop repeating it. It has about the same basis in fact as Trump really won the election. And the reboot movies are 100% canon.
@WeirdErnie
@WeirdErnie 4 года назад
Read the title. Saw the runtime. Literally laughed out loud.
@raecrothers1420
@raecrothers1420 4 года назад
WeirdErnie Ditto. And yet they pull it off.
@niclas3672
@niclas3672 4 года назад
lol yeah. I mean it's just an overall summary. Fine for getting a brief overview.
@BlueTeaArt
@BlueTeaArt 4 года назад
Same I was what maybe part .1 or of 100
@lifelongstudents233
@lifelongstudents233 3 года назад
R/gatekeeping
@TheoWerewolf
@TheoWerewolf 4 года назад
"... this not only leaves future Captain James Kirk to grow up without a father, but it also creates an alternate universe which spins in a different direction while the original timeline remains unaltered..." First, THANK YOU for stating this so clearly. A lot of people didn't get this and still believe the Kelvin timeline replaced the Prime timeline even after Abrahms point blank said 'this is an alternate universe'. One thing though, there's good reason to believe it's not a split from the Prime, but an independent parallel universe. The basic argument is that the changes Nero made can't have affected so much. The Kelvin was already more sophisticated than the TOS Enterprise and looks weirdly more like the 1701A which was 10 years older than the original 1701. Essentially, Spock and Nero ended up in the past of a parallel universe and then screwed their timeline up. :) Final note, people forget the TNG ep where a quantum rupture caused by Worf leads to Enterprise Ds from over 65,000 parallel universes to appear in the Prime one, with different stories. There's a ton of precedence for alternate universes. On the other hand, we also know that in Star Trek, it's been fairly consistent that when someone changes the timeline, it immediately rewrites the present - and that didn't happen. In the three issue prequel comics (which are considered canon), we see Picard and the Enterprise AFTER Spock goes through the wormhole and nothing's changed.
@Geolaw1
@Geolaw1 4 года назад
Not trying to pick on you here but the "prime timeline" is a part of the Kelvin timeline. The "Canon" timeline is the one with TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT. Check out the Midnights Edge video called "Star Trek Discovery and the Prime Deception. It's all explained very well there.
@emsleywyatt3400
@emsleywyatt3400 4 года назад
"The Kelvin was already more sophisticated than the TOS Enterprise" Yes, that was due to an increased R+D into starship development following the attack by the Xindi (which was caused by future people and was not a part of the original TOS/TNG/DS9/VOY timeline). Oh, there was a Captain Jonathan Archer in the original timeline, but he captained the NX-01 Dauntless. The name changed as a result of Cochrane seeing the 1701-D in "First Contact". So many changes to the timeline occurred during "Enterprise" that it's best to consider the series as one big "black box" and say how the series affected the timeline in total rather than trying to pin down which episode caused which change.
@Allegheny500
@Allegheny500 4 года назад
Discovery is also an alternate universe as is their own mirror universe an alternate of the original, which was closer to the altered Enterprise/Xindi time line as evidenced by the Defiant showing up there from the original timeline. "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but *actually* from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff." or to quote Captain Janeway "I swore I'd never let myself get caught in one of these godforsaken paradoxes - the future is the past, the past is the future, it all gives me a headache."
@rickygallodoc
@rickygallodoc 4 года назад
This is almost exactly but you forget the next coming Discovery season 3 timed 900 years in the future.
@jknox2
@jknox2 4 года назад
Discovery 900 years in the future is where it should be. It is an anomaly.
@emsleywyatt3400
@emsleywyatt3400 4 года назад
I would bet that at the end of the season they get back to their own time and take actions to render that future "inoperative" anyway.
@Vesp3r1987
@Vesp3r1987 3 года назад
3rd season should be considered a new timeline (like the Kelvin timeline)
@juandavidcepeda
@juandavidcepeda 3 года назад
@@Vesp3r1987 why? Season 3 900 year leap is situated in the original timeline aprox. 50 years after the farthest known events of previous series so it doesn’t change anything of the previous series
@juandavidcepeda
@juandavidcepeda 3 года назад
@@Vesp3r1987 why? Season 3 900 year leap is situated in the original timeline aprox. 50 years after the farthest known events of previous series so it doesn’t change anything of the previous series
@michaelanderson9792
@michaelanderson9792 4 года назад
Star trek will be with us for a very long time I hope the next generation treats it well
@tangent.arc38618
@tangent.arc38618 3 года назад
so far you got what you wanted
@chriscumberland505
@chriscumberland505 4 года назад
This was such a FANTASTIC explanation of Star Trek's history. I really appreciate this!
@samuelbarber4154
@samuelbarber4154 4 года назад
We've only got six years to prepare for WW3 AARRGGHH!
@quandary1382
@quandary1382 4 года назад
On the plus side, WW3 will hopefully eradicate ALL digital reference to Discovery and Picard.
@miguelpadeiro762
@miguelpadeiro762 4 года назад
@@quandary1382 Are they that bad? I've started watching Enterprise as a chronological start to my start trek binge journey and this discovery hate is making me feel like I'll be wasting precious time of my life, is it that bad?
@quandary1382
@quandary1382 4 года назад
@@miguelpadeiro762 TNG, DS9 and Voyager are all very good. Enterprise is slightly worse but still pretty good. All of those series had some brilliant writing and mind provoking episodes. Discovery and Picard are pretty much terrible by comparison. But your political persuasion will very much determine how you view it. Basically if you are pretty left wing progressive type you'll probably love them both (though the stories aren't that great either and there is no logic to any of it).
@noway9369
@noway9369 4 года назад
Reminds me of David Bowie 5 years.
@motherofpearlmusic2015
@motherofpearlmusic2015 4 года назад
@@quandary1382 Left wing progressives have the ability to detect bad writing just as everybody else. I haven't seen Discovery yet (only some YT videos about it), because I love TNG and don't feel like watching all the bad writing and all the boring super duper special effects, but at the same time I can appreciate it that Discovery really tries to implement diversity. You oversimplify matters, my dear. You have a stereotype of left wing progressives in your head. German left wing green progressive here. And fyi: the whole idea behind Star Trek is left-wing. It has always been progressive for its time.
@Lightthebeam1980
@Lightthebeam1980 4 года назад
"Babe its early turn off RU-vid" "Shhhhh Grunge is explaining in 12 min what you haven't been able to in Ten years"
@sdwhite1978
@sdwhite1978 4 года назад
Sounds like something my ex would say.
@Lightthebeam1980
@Lightthebeam1980 4 года назад
@@sdwhite1978 Is her name Jerry @steven White ?
@sdwhite1978
@sdwhite1978 4 года назад
@@Lightthebeam1980 her name was Brandi.
@mccabber24
@mccabber24 4 года назад
Time line?! This is no time to argue about time! We don't have the time. What was I saying?
@zocc116
@zocc116 4 года назад
counselor, are you drunk? :)
@jamescannon2587
@jamescannon2587 4 года назад
Am not! It took me 3 shots of something called...Tequilla, just to find out this is the guy we are looking for!
@samsmusichub
@samsmusichub 2 года назад
I can't believe y'all fit all that information into 13 minutes!
@Geolaw1
@Geolaw1 4 года назад
Discovery and Picard are in the Kelvin timeline as well. Or they better be. It's the only way to explain all the inconsistencies!
@FrejaHedeAnd
@FrejaHedeAnd 4 года назад
Discovery is set in year 2256 Romulus is destroyed in year 2387. It wouldn't have any impact on the past.
@TrekkieBrie
@TrekkieBrie 4 года назад
As always, I'm living for the trek content.
@TrekkieBrie
@TrekkieBrie 4 года назад
@mudvalve I'm so ready!
@TrekkieBrie
@TrekkieBrie 4 года назад
@mudvalve I'm a video presenter for a trek channel on RU-vid, our team does a lot of digging into rumors and to the best of all our knowledge it's a confirmed series. CBS confirmed it's production weeks ago. I think we should be fine lol.
@jonisilk
@jonisilk 4 года назад
The Motion Picture takes place in 2271, only 2 years after the 5 year mission ends,, not 10 years later. It just took 10 years between the series and the film being made. By contrast, STII: TWOK, was set 14 years later in 2285, so the actors could be aged-up appropriately, even though there was only 3 years between the two films.
@GlidingZephyr
@GlidingZephyr 4 года назад
My personal viewpoint of each series, so far. Be prepared for unique opinions and feel free to express your own. The Next Generation: Jean-Luc Picard was a god among men and he had the best crew any Captain could have asked for. My favorite movies will always be the earlier ones with the original cast, but this was my favorite series. The Original Series: James T. Kirk lived during a dangerous and uncertain time for the Federation, but he had a nice ship to shoot things with and a seemingly endless supply of expendable crew members. Voyager: This is what happens when you mix Gilligan's Island with Lost in Space and throw in half a kilo of uncut cocaine. But it definitely grew on me, especially from the second season onward. Capt. Janeway knew what she was doing the entire time. Deep Space 9: I thought that the plot was often either mediocre or so grandiose that it was almost ridiculous. What it did have that captured my attention more than any other series was unrivaled character development. Also, Benjamin Sisko punches Q. Enterprise: What happens when you throw a pre-Federation vessel into the deep end with technology only slightly more advanced than we have, today? Thank God it had a decent crew, otherwise Jonathan Archer would have been screwed... Discovery: (There is no description of Leland's viewpoint for this series as he has barricaded himself in the bathroom while sobbing into a bucket of ice cream. Please hold..)
@Hitithardify
@Hitithardify 4 года назад
Fair list, especially when it comes to Discovery and Enterprise. Even though I enjoy the Original Cast more than TNGs, I can't deny that TNG was overall, the better show. Only disagreement is DS9, I really enjoyed that show but what you said certainly applies to its first couple seasons. It wasn't until later seasons that I thought the show presented some of the best Star Trek sequences in the franchise. I really enjoyed how Sisko was basically the Anti-Picard. DS9 may have had some rough spots but its still worth the ride that it takes the viewer on. Regardless, I still respect your opinion on it, I originally thought the same when I first watched it as a kid. Took some time to appreciate it when I got older.
@GlidingZephyr
@GlidingZephyr 4 года назад
@@Hitithardify I appreciate it, and I can see where you're coming from. To be fair, I actually like every series in the franchise except for Discovery. Enterprise had it's moments, especially during the third season. And even I'll admit that I think the show portrayed the genuine peril of an inexperienced interstellar nation/fleet very well. I can also relate to Charles Tucker, personally. Lol
@Hitithardify
@Hitithardify 4 года назад
Leland Turner Wanna dive deeper? What’s your opinion on the films?
@GlidingZephyr
@GlidingZephyr 4 года назад
@@Hitithardify The first three films based on the Original Series are my absolute favorites, and 4 through 6 were all right. The Next Generation films I thought were generally okay, although I wasn't too enthused with Insurrection. I think that a film with the Enterprise cast is long overdue, and a DS9 adaptation would be even better except that I know some of their cast has passed away.
@Hitithardify
@Hitithardify 4 года назад
Leland Turner My favorites were always the Original 6 films, even the ones I didn’t care for in them I still enjoyed. When it comes to TNG’s films I enjoyed First Contact the most. I’ll admit that I thought it was kinda weird that they didn’t incorporate the whole Dominion War going on in DS9 with TNG cast in Insurrection. Felt like that was a missed opportunity. I remember watching DS9 and thinking, “Why hasn’t the Enterprise been called to help these guys out?” I know Picard and Sisko don’t like each other and bringing TNG in on that conflict could provided a good resolution for those two characters relationship with one another. But oh well I guess, maybe they’ll mention it in the new Picard series.
@liteney
@liteney 4 года назад
The series has also gone to great lengths to show that the 1966 dated show is due to the influence of Captain Christopher Pike? Please explain to me how this makes any sort of sense. It would be kin to an F-22 fighter pilot saying, 'Hey Navy, I"m an old fashioned dude, I want to fly an F-4' My god STD sucks.
@2bituser569
@2bituser569 4 года назад
Exactly what I thought too. Ok gee golly Pike wants us all to look old fashioned so we gotta do it even though he ain’t an Admiral or UFP president.
@liteney
@liteney 4 года назад
@@2bituser569 Especially when we look back and see how well the Constitution class/The Enterprise, it's crew, it's uniforms and it's universe were all done in both DS9 and Enterprise. There is absolutely no excuse for what STD has done. And their attempts at excuses such as this one are just embarrassing.
@TerryB751
@TerryB751 3 года назад
Alternate timelines can always be used to explain multiple episodes in the past or future. The 1990s are past and we never experienced Khan but any past event with a different outcome can always spin another timeline where he supposedly existed.
@virginiaconnor8350
@virginiaconnor8350 4 года назад
The Borg were known in Archer's time. The Romulan War wasn't shown because "Enterprise" was cancelled after the 4th season and a silly holoprogramme by Riker-Troi was shown instead of Archers speech and T'Pol discovering that Trip was alive, not dead, ready to infiltrate the Romulans, disguised as a Romulan.
@jamescannon2587
@jamescannon2587 4 года назад
Except that Trip was really dead, as it was supposedly one of the most profound events guiding the rules set into the directives of Starfleet Command and the UFP.
@virginiaconnor8350
@virginiaconnor8350 4 года назад
@@jamescannon2587 You didn't read "The Good That Men Do", "Kobayashi Maru", "The Romulan War: Beneath the Raptor's Wings", "The Romulan War: To Brave the Storm" or the 5 "Rise of the Federation" books? They'll give you more info than the episodes that were deleted would give you.
@jamescannon2587
@jamescannon2587 4 года назад
@@virginiaconnor8350 lol, deleted episodes, and books are not considered canon. The main reason that Gene Roddenberry said this was because there were a lot of conflicting things in the books, compared to what they wanted to show on TV.
@CR500R
@CR500R 4 года назад
I'd like to infiltrate T'Pol. Especially mirror universe T'Pol...she was so fine!
@timswift1863
@timswift1863 4 года назад
They also went back to 1968 using light speed break away and met up with Robert Lansing. It's important to mention that Captain Kirk actually got on the radio (station KMET) and gave a public service anouncement to "stay in school". At least I remember him doing that. .
@crazycoinbox6078
@crazycoinbox6078 4 года назад
Then explain in the movie The Wrath of Khan. How did Khan recognized Chekov as part of the crew of the Enterprise even though Chekhov was never part of the crew of the Enterprise at that time?
@davidhutchinson5233
@davidhutchinson5233 4 года назад
130 more years until we truly reach interstellar space in a practical way? Not so bad really. Love Star Trek. Been watching since the mid 70s when TOS was in syndication.
@ChristinaLouise27
@ChristinaLouise27 3 года назад
Respect to my beloved Picard, but if we are up against the Borg we need Janeway running the show 💯
@conorsheridan-mcandrew8630
@conorsheridan-mcandrew8630 3 года назад
I'd put Odo and Quark on the cube, they'd take them down no problem.
@lanatrzczka
@lanatrzczka 4 года назад
The Picard snippets were very interesting. I hadn't seen them yet.
@jamescannon2587
@jamescannon2587 4 года назад
The scenes they used are from the trailer released about 2 months ago.
@jonathanclark5240
@jonathanclark5240 4 года назад
Great summary! I would have finished up with the Federation timeships of the 29th century, as depicted in Voyager's Future's End and Relativity episodes, but maybe you haven't experienced that timeline yet. =)
@ChrisCa1601
@ChrisCa1601 4 года назад
You left out Star Trek: The Animated Series. The show takes place after TOS and just before The Motion Picture.
@benjimain6
@benjimain6 4 года назад
on purpose...
@Lifesizemortal
@Lifesizemortal 4 года назад
Who cares
@nickb9718
@nickb9718 4 года назад
@@Lifesizemortal Star Trek fans do.
@leokimvideo
@leokimvideo 3 года назад
WW3 incoming. Looks like China is taking the cues from Star Trek
@jenniferschmitzer299
@jenniferschmitzer299 3 года назад
thats rather vague... who, where, what, in.. yknow, star trek is a dramatic comedy in the oldest written down sense we have. Its like lifted from the cuneiform and the better actualised characters in the Hellenic sense. Its all fun. Don't worry about those silk traders and inkstick lovers.
@bronyanthony1892
@bronyanthony1892 3 года назад
Hey, I almost forgot about you.
@jenniferschmitzer299
@jenniferschmitzer299 3 года назад
@@bronyanthony1892 thats nice
@alexsch2514
@alexsch2514 3 года назад
@@jenniferschmitzer299 why always China? Why do so many now consider them "big bad" of the world?
@jenniferschmitzer299
@jenniferschmitzer299 3 года назад
@@alexsch2514 probably because of their current government position.
@ziolintanotoberti5250
@ziolintanotoberti5250 4 года назад
Once, a while ago, I watched a documentary about Star Trek, I don't remember where, neither I remember the exact title of it. But I remember that it talked about the making of a Star Trek movie in wich was explicated that during the shooting of the picture there were real military people that helped to make aliens characters as more realistic as possible. In these occasions they said to the cast of directors and actors etc... things like: "they (referring to the aliens) don't do like this, they do like that; they don't look like this but like that; they don't talk like this but like that" and similar things... Is that right or that it is a wrong reminiscence of mine? Someone can confirm or not please? Is there any possibility to still find that documentary? I really need and I want to see it again and it is a while I'm looking for it. Thanks in advance for the help.
@holden3
@holden3 2 года назад
Loved the start trek game commercial
@jetnova16
@jetnova16 4 года назад
You left out Star Trek: First Contact’s beginning, you left out Star Trek: Generations and it’s TMP beginning as well as TNG parts, and you also left out Star Trek: Insurrection and Star Trek: Nemesis.
@christopherwhite4814
@christopherwhite4814 4 года назад
Extremely well done video !! Mint 👌🏻🔥
@Ivan_Ooze
@Ivan_Ooze 4 года назад
STD is not star trek
@julianaylor4351
@julianaylor4351 4 года назад
I can't get into Star Trek Discovery, the acting is so bad I found myself unable to connect with the charectors, so I've given up on it. I nearly fell asleep watching it, never happened before, even when I watched Voyager when I had flu or Enterprise when with another nasty bug. So Discovery is not worth mentioning.
@123chrismd
@123chrismd 4 года назад
Hmm...has writers on board from Voyager and DS9 tho along with Roddenberry on as an EP...I mean I will admit I miss “episodic” Star Trek, but I think calling it all bad writing is quite dismissive tho one can have their opinion...but imo, I think there is a lack of imagination on some allowing them selves to appreciate a new form of Trek...TNG was very different than TOS, and DS9 from TNG...Voyager wasn’t exactly controversial, but there was almost no hiatus between shows or major theme changes.
@angularsquare8757
@angularsquare8757 4 года назад
Jeez. Of course it is.
@AustinFan4Life
@AustinFan4Life 4 года назад
Deep Space Nine took place after Season 3 of TNG. You can tell from when O'Brien transferred from the Enterprise to DS9, plus Picard & Sisko's first meeting.
@chrischeshire6528
@chrischeshire6528 4 года назад
Khan was not expelled from Earth but escaped, with Gary Seven's help.
@alcoholic2412
@alcoholic2412 4 года назад
The crew from the original series went back to the 1960's twice not once.
@silvereagle2061
@silvereagle2061 4 года назад
"Assignment Earth"
@alcoholic2412
@alcoholic2412 4 года назад
Yea assignment earth was supposed to be the pilot to a spinoff show that never happened. Too bad, I would've watched it.
@2bituser569
@2bituser569 4 года назад
Telly Vin-a and lovely short skirts
@bigevil1001
@bigevil1001 3 года назад
This was a very well-made timeline. You really did your research. Though I think the video could use some trimming. Just take out 5:12-6:34 and it's perfect.
@keithmason9342
@keithmason9342 4 года назад
Discovery obviously takes place in the Kelvin Timeline. This explains why the technology looks different from the Original Series. It showed a very different Enterprise than the one in the Original Series. It should have been included after Voyager. If it is, Discovery makes much more sense.
@Revan2908
@Revan2908 4 года назад
Keith Mason Discovery shows that Pike will end up in the same condition he was in The Menagerie. He dies in the so-called “Kelvin Timeline.” Different realities.
@jamescannon2587
@jamescannon2587 4 года назад
Its been extremely well established in multiple episodes that the Discovery takes place in the primary timeline. Even if it were the Kelvin timeline, the events of Nero's arrival wouldn't change things until he attempts to destroy Vulcan. Nero made certain to remain out of history's way until that point in time. So until the destruction of Vulcan, it can still be considered the primary timeline. As far as the tech goes, I've learned that directors and producers tend to take artistic liberties due to the newer technologies both on and off screen.
@angularsquare8757
@angularsquare8757 4 года назад
No it doesn't. Just those 3 dodgy movies.
@keithmason9342
@keithmason9342 4 года назад
Interesting that the new Picard series includes the events that sent the Romulan crew and Spock back to the Kelvin timeline. Events are slightly altered. What difference does it make at this point? The Primary timeline is the one the shows currently take place from the perspective of the current characters. No one would remember the old timeline. Just us viewers observing from the outside of time.
@ogaeireland
@ogaeireland 4 года назад
Dude. You'ed nailed it
@davidgettle2638
@davidgettle2638 4 года назад
There is a big problem with your presentation of "The Star Trek Timeline" which is this; there is not one but 4 Star Trek timelines running through the series Timeline 1 - the 1960's TV show through the movie Undiscovered Country, Timeline 2: Star Trek The Next Generation, Voyager, DS9 through First Contact. these are different timelines because in the 1960's TV show Zephram Cochran was not from Earth, he was from Alpha Centauri as evidenced in the TOS episode "Metamorphosys" In which Kirk asks Cochran "Zephram Cochran of Alpha Centauri, the inventor of warp drive?" to which Cochran replies "Yes". I sspect this was caused by the events of "Voyage Home" Scotty and Dr. McCoy gave the formula for transparent Aluminum to a company that manufactured acrylics and potentially changed their past., in addition Checkov's phaser and communicator were left behind, no telling how that could have changed things. Timeline 3 The J. J. Abrams reboot, caused by Spock and Nero traveling into the past after the destruction of the Romulan home world, and effected by the tech of the Romulan mining ship from post STNG which destroyed planet Vulcan. Timeline 4: created by the events of "First Contact" the Borg attacking the compound where the Phoenix was located altering the past causing a new timeline which started with the events during the movie "First Contact" and became the history for Star Trek Enterprise and has now progressed to Star Trek Discovery.
@oldmanmavrik5458
@oldmanmavrik5458 4 года назад
Where does Generations fit in?
@davidgettle2638
@davidgettle2638 4 года назад
@@oldmanmavrik5458 Generations sort-of fits into both the TOS and TNG lines, I would put it as a crossover between the two, we really don't have a way to reference which timeline the movie takes place in, starts in, or ends in however I would place it as follows: It starts in the TOS time line and ends in the TNG time line.my reasoning is this: while inside the space ribbon Kirk is unaffected by time. and the ribbon most likely exists outside time, or is a connection between all timelines. The movie was promoted by Paramount as connecting TOS to TNG, based on that I would place it as starting in the TOS time-line after the decommissioning of the Enterprise A, Remember Enterprise (No Bloody A) was over 20 years old at the time it was destroyed in Search for Spock. Starfleet being a para-military organization would not waist resources by decommissioning a ship before it had out-lasted it's usefulness or been damaged beyond repair or became too expensive to maintain. (I was in the U.S. Navy and the real ship I served on was in service for 40 years before the Navy decided it was too expensive to maintain). Obviously the movie ended in the TNG time-line, now the question is is the James Kirk from the TNG timeline still in the space ribbon, or is the James Kirk from TOS still in the space ribbon... either way they would have the same personality and in the same given situation would act the same, the only differences would be their life experiences, which in parallel time-lines would be similar.
@obnoxiousoboe
@obnoxiousoboe 4 года назад
Why don't they ever include the Animated Series? That show was great too.
@GlidingZephyr
@GlidingZephyr 4 года назад
Short answer? Politics among fans. The animated series isn't popular with the majority, but I have fond memories of watching it at my Grandparents' house when I was a little kid.
@factualopinion6947
@factualopinion6947 4 года назад
My least favorite trek show😩🚮
@obnoxiousoboe
@obnoxiousoboe 4 года назад
@@factualopinion6947 Well if that's your opinion. I do acknowledge there were problems with the animation, but I never found much wrong with the episode content. I thought the stories were interesting, it's a nice continuation from where the original series left off. I would say it's enjoyable in its own right, but I guess it also depends on the Trekkie.
@obnoxiousoboe
@obnoxiousoboe 3 года назад
He kinda flip-flopped about it over the years. His actual verdict was more and less on how the individual felt about the series. But he himself was ambivalent. It's always been considered "canon" to me though, and I don't really see anything wrong with the series itself despite the animation being a little dated. But a lot of Trekkies think the series is canon, and is declared canon by Memory Alpha and Paramount, so I don't see the reason why it doesn't have a place in the ST timeline.
@darude2893
@darude2893 4 года назад
This is written by someone who barely watches Star trek or just read a wiki page
@UnchainedAmerica
@UnchainedAmerica 4 года назад
LIke umm...how?
@darude2893
@darude2893 4 года назад
@@UnchainedAmerica everything is just very simplistic
@weaver6341
@weaver6341 4 года назад
make one yourself
@benjimain6
@benjimain6 4 года назад
@@darude2893 it's a 12 min vid. hehe. But, indeed he should've skipped the word 'entire" in the title.
@benjimain6
@benjimain6 4 года назад
@mudvalve I think a lack of information other than the first wikipedia page on star trek history :o
@JosephBurdette
@JosephBurdette 4 года назад
Pretty good recap! I like!
@KingFanMan
@KingFanMan 3 года назад
Wow that was a lot of work...great job!
@Sly88Frye
@Sly88Frye 4 года назад
I certainly look forward to watching Star trek Picard. I'm disappointed that have to pay for another streaming service in order to watch it, however my mom has a CBS all access account and I'll just ask to use hers. I already let her and my wife use my Hulu account so I think it's only fair if my mom lets me use her CBS all access account.
@bigdickpornsuperstar
@bigdickpornsuperstar 4 года назад
You pay? LOL! Loser.
@jupamoers
@jupamoers 4 года назад
Voyager even went to the 1990s (especially the year 1996, the end of the Eugenic Wars) and there was no sign of the Augments...
@ChristinaLouise27
@ChristinaLouise27 3 года назад
Hanging out with Sarah Silverman at the Griffith Park Observatory!
@bigevil1001
@bigevil1001 3 года назад
Instead of travelling back in time to WW2 for the 50th time, I think they should travel back in time and explore the Eugenics War, WW3, or the Post-Atomic Horror. These fictional historic events that paved the way for First Contact and the creation of Starfleet would have been very interesting to explore and I'm surprised they were barely touched on.
@danielwalker26
@danielwalker26 2 года назад
WOAH WOAH WOAH. The NX-01 had a crew member you forgot. Porthos the beagle. There were also two of the Crossfield class vessels. The USS Glenn and the USS Discovery. The galaxy wasn't threatened by a supernova. It was just the Romulan star system.
@whatisittoyou6917
@whatisittoyou6917 2 года назад
question for those people who know star trek. in what order should i watch all the star trek films and shows if i wanna watch them in chronological order
@kaierdmann3834
@kaierdmann3834 4 года назад
I thought Discovery was Kelvin timeline too? ... It doesnt add up does it? (In the series they meet those big head Thalos aliens and what not)
@angularsquare8757
@angularsquare8757 4 года назад
It's not. Only those 3 dodgy movies are.
@Hitithardify
@Hitithardify 4 года назад
@@angularsquare8757 Apparently the new Picard series is set after the supernova that occurred in the 2009 Star Trek Movie, so does that mean its part of the Kelvin timeline too?
@mr.machiavellian7552
@mr.machiavellian7552 4 года назад
@@Hitithardify I believe that was the split event that led Spock to create the Kelvin timeline
@Hitithardify
@Hitithardify 4 года назад
Mr. Machiavellian Yeah I’ve looked more into since. So the Kelvin Timeline is its own thing and Spock just got stuck in it. Picard takes place after the destruction of Romulus and that’s all that carries over from that film.
@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701
@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 4 года назад
In generell a nice and correct Star Trek timeline depiction.. But you kinda forgot to mention the TNG Feature films which were set from ca. 2372-2379
@arielfilmsinc1926
@arielfilmsinc1926 4 года назад
If not mentioned You forgot the animated series 1974
@Acarson87
@Acarson87 2 года назад
You forgot to add, Sisko is the only captain to kick Qs ass
@davethewolf
@davethewolf 4 года назад
Wasn't it already confirmed that the reason the original series has "dated" looking tech, is because during / after the war, Starfleet switched to a more "manual / hands on" ship systems approach to prevent them from being hacked?. For example, a virus could get into the ships computers, giving fake holographic messages, or inputs. But when you have to physically press a button to move the ship / controls, or when you have to physically see the person on the view-screen or hear them on comms, it takes away the chance of deception or tech hacks.
@monolofiminimal
@monolofiminimal 4 года назад
Thumbnail is like the Witcher aged in space during the 80s
@julianaylor4351
@julianaylor4351 4 года назад
Star Trek like Doctor Who is a Sixties phenomenon and science fiction icon. A must for science fiction film and television fans, unless your just can't get into it, nevermind if you can't, it shouldn't be held against you by a sane person. Live long and prosper.
@sergeengine6116
@sergeengine6116 3 года назад
was the looped background music necessary?
@wesleyhermsen2242
@wesleyhermsen2242 4 года назад
Where is the animated series that was before the first movie which already had holodecks
@Revan2908
@Revan2908 4 года назад
Wesley Hermsen Was wondering that, myself.
@jamescannon2587
@jamescannon2587 4 года назад
It is not considered canon. The newer cartoon by the creaters of Rick and Morty, called "Lower Decks" also is not canon, but should still be a fun and whimsical take on Trek to watch.
@obnoxiousoboe
@obnoxiousoboe 4 года назад
@@jamescannon2587 By Paramount....but it's considered canon by the official Star Trek website and is recognized by several including the Memory Alpha wiki. D.C. Fontana, David Gerrold, and Walter Koenig all contributed to the cartoon. It should be very much "canon" with the universe.
@ericlanglois9194
@ericlanglois9194 4 года назад
@@obnoxiousoboe It's been a point of confusion for years because Gene Rodenberry himself stated that the Animated Series was not canon. In more recent times, Paramount and CBS have given the Animated Series more visibility, as has Memory Alpha, but no official word was given stating that Rodenberry's decision had been repealed. In the end, it's probably best to just assume it's not canon except when specifically referenced (like DS9, Enterprise and JJ-Trek did).
@crazycoinbox6078
@crazycoinbox6078 4 года назад
they don't count... they where just extra for kids.
@DrBeeSpeaks
@DrBeeSpeaks 4 года назад
Honey....sitting here waiting on the Vulcans with indica on deck! ❤️❤️👽
@jyshot
@jyshot 4 года назад
Question. What does God need with a starship?
@DavidOm...
@DavidOm... 3 года назад
You included the old Star Trek Movies with Shatner and Nimoy but left the TNG Movie out? They shoul also be included fir a correct timeline.
@cyberorpheus
@cyberorpheus 4 года назад
What about the TNG movies?
@dickJohnsonpeter
@dickJohnsonpeter 4 года назад
Im 38 and I'm just starting to get into Star Trek. I started by watching all of TNG from episode 1 (I'm currently halfway through). Where should I go next? Should I go back and watch the original series and go in chronological order from there? (skipping TNG of course) Does that mean I have to watch the animated series then? Is it any good? Or can I just go to DS9 after I finish TNG and save the original till last (I'm worried I won't like the original because it will seem too dated. Not that I don't like old stuff just old scifi can be a little corny. Maybe the original is so good it's easy to look past that? ) Edit: I forgot about the movies, where do I fit those in? Sorry for all the questions, I didn't realize I'd have so many when I started writing this! Star Trek fans seem to be opinionated folks so maybe someone will help.
@zg6766
@zg6766 4 года назад
Having grown up with the original series I have sincerest appreciation & find it essential for full enjoyment & truest comprehension of the entire lore... So yes, ideally view entire series in order, (& the animated although not mandatory), the feature films 1-6, TNG, continued feature films 1st Contact & Generations, DS9, Voyager, Enterprise, & you're basically set in my pov🎬... Live long & Prosper in Treking☯️
@maxwelljones7213
@maxwelljones7213 4 года назад
Honestly I'd just keep going with DS9 and any references made referring to a TOS episode just go back and watch those at your leisure. TOS was very episodic so there isn't much need to watch every TOS episode(but they are great to watch) I will say this is the movies you have to watch in order the TOS movies imo have a larger effect on the overall development of the franchise than the TV show. and you don't have to watch the cartoon, it is debated weather it is cannon or not.
@Hitithardify
@Hitithardify 4 года назад
Maxwell Jones The Animated Series has since been officially declared canon.
@GoGreen1977
@GoGreen1977 4 года назад
Yes, go back and watch TOS! If you don't want to watch all the episodes, find a list of what is considered the top 10 -20 or watch the first season and a few in the 2nd season (like "Amok Time"). But I recommend you watch ALL of them even if you "skim" a few. Then watch the movies, ALL of them. TOS, in my opinion, is the heart of Star Trek, has tremendous chemistry among the main crew, especially in the movies, and started it all.
@tsdobbi
@tsdobbi 4 года назад
"Should I go back and watch the original series and go in chronological order from there?" I watch the original trek movies, but the OG series is just too dated for me to sit down and watch it seriously. I might flip it on while going to bed.
@SR71ABCD
@SR71ABCD 3 года назад
Whoa whoa you're missing Starfleet's first warp 4 ship the USS Franklin.
@arturkarpinski164
@arturkarpinski164 4 года назад
What about the animated series???
@tomo100brt
@tomo100brt 4 года назад
Yes. Where is that series? Star Trek The Animated Serie is important because in The Time Trap episode there is the earliest mention of Klingons making use of the cloak technology. It was the Battle of Caleb IV. Forget Star Trek Discovery and Cloaking Screen in it because that show is not in Star Trek continuity although they wont us to believe that.
@arturkarpinski164
@arturkarpinski164 4 года назад
@@tomo100brt It was also voiced by the actual TOS actors.🖖
@Smokedship
@Smokedship 4 года назад
Fabulous video!
@gtc9966
@gtc9966 4 года назад
No mention of ‘Past Tense’? Surely the best ‘ST crew visit Earth via timey winey madness’ tv episode...?
@Idazmi7
@Idazmi7 4 года назад
World War 3 and the Eugenics Wars are literally two names for the same conflict. Both are mentioned by name in _the exact same scene_ in Space Seed, in direct reference to Khan Singh and his war. It didn't start in 2026.
@jamescannon2587
@jamescannon2587 4 года назад
LOL, true. World War 3 ended by about 1998 according to "Space Seed". There was the post atomic horror, which isn't given a specific length of time (Q's trial of humanity is based on this time period), but can be assumed to be just after World War III (by which Rapid Progress would make sense) and just before First Contact.
@Idazmi7
@Idazmi7 4 года назад
@@CDRiley Memory Alpha is a fan wiki, not an official source. The official source for Star Trek is Star Trek.
@Idazmi7
@Idazmi7 4 года назад
@@CDRiley *SPOCK:* "No such vessel listed. Records of that period are fragmentary, however. The mid=1990s was the era of your last so-called World War." *MCCOY:* "The Eugenics Wars." *SPOCK:* "Of course. Your attempt to improve the race through selective breeding." They're the same conflict.
@pinoi78
@pinoi78 4 года назад
I’m so f’n ready for Star Trek: Picard next week. MAKE IT SO.
@quandary1382
@quandary1382 4 года назад
I would hope you are crying into your Jean Luc pillow round about now.. If not, wtf is wrong with you.
@pinoi78
@pinoi78 4 года назад
TIG5574 It’s no TNG that’s for sure. But ever Trek show has it’s shaky first season. I’ll keep watching.
@trevorjenkins2176
@trevorjenkins2176 4 года назад
Star Trek, still needs: Enterprise B, Enterprise C to fill in the gaps. Plus if they decide to do a fourth alternate timeline [prime being the first, mirror being the second and Kelvin being the third.] Where the Declaration Class "Ring Ship" being the first Enterprise under the registration number: XVC-330.
@corywilliams2255
@corywilliams2255 4 года назад
There was NO intergalactic war! INTERGALACTIC means between or including multiple galaxies. The wars with the Xindi, the Romulans, the Klingons, and even the Dominion were INTERSTELLAR, having involved numerous star systems, factions, and political entities within ONE GALAXY! INTERPLANETARY, INTERSTELLAR and INTERGALACTIC are not INTERCHANGEABLE. Please get it right.
@MichaelOfTroyWasHere
@MichaelOfTroyWasHere 4 года назад
“Tay-Rock Nor”, or ... What happens when non Star Trek fans talk about Star Trek...
@JohnDuzzi
@JohnDuzzi 4 года назад
The greatest franchise in history. it was great to see Picard return to TV. How does Picard return for season two without Picard?
@drummingjohn4u
@drummingjohn4u 4 года назад
This is a great video. My only problem with it is you put Star Trek Discovery in the regular timeline. It is a alternate timeline because maybe that ship was a one-off, but even the Enterprise has them of the futuristic technology and with stripped of it? Would you want to take your society that has new technology and purposely put it back where technology is not advanced??? Star Trek Discovery and Star Trek Picard are not the prime universe!! This is a wonderful video and I enjoyed watching it. And I agree with most of what you said in the video.
@eliezerrodriguez5863
@eliezerrodriguez5863 3 года назад
Enterprise is also in an alternate reality
@mistahrobb963
@mistahrobb963 2 года назад
Well done
@samanthawall2748
@samanthawall2748 3 года назад
Excellent!!!
@cidysilva77
@cidysilva77 4 года назад
Wonderful Job!!!
@jamesmarshall1967
@jamesmarshall1967 4 года назад
Really wish when people make videos they would pronounce names correctly
@Dmal2301
@Dmal2301 4 года назад
Very informative
@dabrownguy7356
@dabrownguy7356 4 года назад
Grunge, stop it right there.... any Trek content that came after 2005 is not real Star Trek! The kelvin timeline, Disgracery, and Picard are not real Star Trek as they were made under an alternate licence and not the actual true licence.
@jamescannon2587
@jamescannon2587 4 года назад
Not true at all. Discovery and Picard are very specifically made by CBS, who made TNG, DS9 and the first couple of years of Star Trek Voyager.
@angularsquare8757
@angularsquare8757 4 года назад
Of course its Star Trek.
@hansmeyer7225
@hansmeyer7225 4 года назад
DISCO is NOT StarTrek
@normanwhite6677
@normanwhite6677 4 года назад
I was watching the Star Trek reboot the other night and had a horrible epiphany. Hear me out - Mr. Spock doomed earth in the reboot of Star Trek. Everything up to the point of Nero's ship entering from the black hole was as it always was. Nero and his renegade Romulans only affected history from that point. That means that the alien probe from Star Trek 4 - The Voyage Home was still coming back to earth to communicate with the humpback whales. At the end of the Star Trek reboot, Spock didn't mention that earth might want to find a way to find some humpback whales. Ergo, the probe would destroy earth when it arrived a few decades later because Kirk and his crew would not have been returning from Vulcan. I know it's kind of convoluted, but think about it.
@dbcooper206
@dbcooper206 4 года назад
Of all the plot lines, that aren’t the borg, the dominion wars was probably my favorite..
@JeffIrok
@JeffIrok 4 года назад
ANIMATED SERIES???? :)
@kevinal
@kevinal 4 года назад
@HiFive789 they mentioned Discovery so ya there's that.
@JeffIrok
@JeffIrok 4 года назад
@HiFive789 I know people have different opinions about it, and I don't necessarily disagree that, with some exceptions, TAS was mostly a weaker contribution. But, to my understanding, Paramount (or CBS, or whoever was speaking to Star Trek about 10-12 years ago) confirmed that TAS was in fact canon. Which is pretty much why I added the comment. To be honest, I would have been surprised if it was actually included in the timeline, though!
@factualopinion6947
@factualopinion6947 4 года назад
@HiFive789 fax
@gagandeepbhatia9165
@gagandeepbhatia9165 3 года назад
thank you
@jpg3430
@jpg3430 4 года назад
Did he say Star Trak?
@shawnsdogs3397
@shawnsdogs3397 4 года назад
Frick I’m 48 seconds late
@CristySFM1234
@CristySFM1234 4 года назад
star trek discovery isnt really star trek its a show made by a drunk guy who knows nothing about star trek (many dont even call it cannon)
@GlidingZephyr
@GlidingZephyr 4 года назад
Exactly! Discovery was written by a frat boy on New Year's Eve. And it only became stranger and more cringe worthy as it dragged along. I want my money back, CBS...
@angularsquare8757
@angularsquare8757 4 года назад
So its called Star Trek but somehow it's not Star Trek?
@SiBanstead89
@SiBanstead89 4 года назад
Not hating but Data looks odd. Might be the fact that Brent Spiner is a 71-year-old man playing such a youthful character once more. Will be good to see the series this month all the same
@brandoncard5586
@brandoncard5586 4 года назад
Error the end of the show Enterprise was not the formation United Federation of Planets.
@Eagle8599
@Eagle8599 4 года назад
Not 100% right but close enough for government work.
@mike-zr9oj
@mike-zr9oj 4 года назад
If we are going to stick with cannon, this Kelvin incident did not create a new universe or timeline. It was a parallel universe from the getgo. In this universe where is Sam Kirk? J. T. Kirks twin brother.
@LM1988
@LM1988 4 года назад
So what about Star Trek generations, first contact in its future position, and also all of the next generation films
@2bituser569
@2bituser569 4 года назад
He does show the Borg bombing Bozeman, Montana
@LM1988
@LM1988 4 года назад
Yeah for first contact in the start of the timeline
@VolkerHett
@VolkerHett 4 года назад
With Star Trek timelines there is always the question which one? They mess with timetravel all the time :D
@zaidhasan4881
@zaidhasan4881 3 года назад
My guy I need to grab my notebook
@kennedymcgovern5413
@kennedymcgovern5413 2 года назад
Bullshit! RU-vid is throwing this, and other Star Trek stuff at me because it somehow knows that I just purchased the original series. In as much, I just started watching it from the beginning. I am up to episode 9...maybe 10...of the first season. Captain Kirk just offered to BUY Dilithium Crystals from miners on Rigel 12 "at a fair price." Apparently, Humanity does not become socialist until sometime after Kirk's time.
@adamconrod5199
@adamconrod5199 4 года назад
Well in the Original STAR TREK There was no such alien as the Cardassians but yet before the days of Captain Kirk in STAR TREK Enterprise there was a alien race called the Cardassians so HOW TO YOU EXPLAIN THIS {STAR TREK Mistake} ?
@davidcole7287
@davidcole7287 4 года назад
"How do you explain that the tech in Discovery looks more sophisticated than the original series?" You don't. It makes as much sense as trying to square-peg Gotham into the timeline of the Adam West Batman and you'll only give yourself a nosebleed.
@angularsquare8757
@angularsquare8757 4 года назад
So you think Discovery should look like it was made in 1956? 10 years before TOS?
@davidcole7287
@davidcole7287 4 года назад
@@angularsquare8757 Sorry? That's the precise opposite of what I said.
@xmanc5687
@xmanc5687 2 года назад
I just accept the fact that special effects r better today than the 60s so I can accept it looking better than the original series.
@juanberdarquea2550
@juanberdarquea2550 4 года назад
So the romulus that exploded from the star trek movies is the same event that os talked about in star trek picard?
@juanberdarquea2550
@juanberdarquea2550 3 года назад
@Mr. Cool thanks!!!
@Gspec5
@Gspec5 3 года назад
Ok, now explain where star trek fits in the star wars universe
@martyklestadt6766
@martyklestadt6766 3 года назад
Star Wars universe is a billion years ago in a galaxy far, far away.
@jamescannon2587
@jamescannon2587 4 года назад
You failed to mention that Discovery now shoots off about 500 years after the destruction of Romulus. It starts off as a prequel but at the end of the 3rd year, the series becomes a sequel.
@mchawk315
@mchawk315 3 года назад
I'm pretty sure you missed at least 4 movies in this timeline.
@OFFRoadWheels
@OFFRoadWheels 4 года назад
2265 is close then we thing all of are sci-fi show are losing to time with I think if we didn't have corporate and gready money hongy people money would go to science we would be more advanced.
@calebash82
@calebash82 4 года назад
Once again in English?
@2bituser569
@2bituser569 4 года назад
Anthony Ashdown more money to his linguistic studies before science 🧫 please 😂
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