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Get to know the one of the iconic families of health and nutrition like never before!
Join Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn, his wife Ann, and children Rip and Jane for an inside look at such a trailblazing family.
The group joined Dr. Neal Barnard and "The Weight Loss Champion" Chuck Carroll for a special episode of The Exam Room Podcast at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., for a look back at Dr. Esseslstyn's incredible career and the immeasurable influence they've had on millions of lives around the world.
Dr. Esselstyn shares his advice for tapping into the healthiest parts of your DNA while turning off the genes responsible for chronic and deadly illnesses. He is living proof that his method works! He cites outliving members of his own family by decades after they all passed away at an early age.
Plus, 88-year-old Ann steals the show by pulling a tire that is twice her size to the astonishment of the sold-out crowd who filled the National Press Club for this once in a lifetime show!
Dr. Esselstyn and Rip also share their thoughts on the hazards of the keto diet and the serious repercussions of following misguided over the top social media influencers.
Other Topics
- Dr. Esselstyn gives his healthiest foods
- Dr. Esselstyn shares his opinion on all oils
- What the Esselstyn family eats for Thanksgiving
- Dr. Esselstyn's 101-year-old whole food, plant-based patient
- Rip and Jan dish about what it was like to grow up in the Esselstyn family
- The Esselstyn family receive the Midge Steuber Ambassador for a Better World Award
- And more!
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@ColinFirthFan777 7 месяцев назад

I have been following Dr. Esselstyn's reversal plan for eleven years. I had a heart attack several years ago. A recent angiogram indicates zero blockages, not even narrowing. He knows what he is talking about and he is very kind and generous with his time.

@richyakuoko2360 7 месяцев назад

Awesome!! Congrats Sir!!

@claresmith9261 7 месяцев назад

I’m doing it but not fully as all my family eat sad , I’m 71 and doing pretty well but I’d love to be 100 percent, I’m just wondering does the rest of your family do this as everyone on this show eats this way and that makes it really so much easier to sustain the diet

@georgannecollett8047 7 месяцев назад

@claresmith9261 it's so very very important to do it 100% Clare....Dr E warns about this for a reason

@claresmith9261 6 месяцев назад

@@georgannecollett8047 I realize that but can’t seem to with all my family eating differently but thanks 🙏

@georgannecollett8047 4 месяца назад

@@claresmith9261 My family don't....I've just had to work at keeping at this for myself

@kentroskelley1389 7 месяцев назад

A Family on a mission to save our health, the earth and all its creatures. This is a powerful commitment. Thank you Esselstyn’s!!!

@sandybayes 7 месяцев назад

So many plant advocates that we can now follow and be assured are committed to healthy nutrition.

@5mintify 7 месяцев назад

Some people think plant-based diet, whole foods diet is extreme. Half a million people a year will have their chests opened up and a vein taken from their leg and sewn onto their coronary artery. Some people would call that extreme. ~Caldwell Esselstyn (1933-)

@greyhnd001 6 месяцев назад

I did my first doctors visit in 10 years since going plant based. I can't wait to get the results. My blood pressure blew my doctor away. She said it was the blood pressure of a 20 year old 113/73. with no meds. Just whole food plant based and a beer hear and there. I apricate all the research you've done. Im 53 with a resting heart rate of 47.

@alanalynn2023 7 месяцев назад

I'm on day 14 of this eating journey and so far I feel like I eat all I want and I'm satisfied and a bonus to it all is that I've lost 6 lb

@g.e.boroush5176 7 месяцев назад

I'm on year 14 and you will be there before you know it. Just stick with it. It's a lovely way to live life. Hugs! -

@suzkstein 15 дней назад

ALL RESPECT to Ann Crile Esselstyn!! She truly made this way of life accessible. SO happy the honored her at the end of the video! GO ANN

@Cubby-cv8qe 7 месяцев назад

Eating my oatmeal with almond milk & ground flax while listening. Thank you to the Esselstyn family!!!!!

@CompanionAnimals2011 7 месяцев назад

Dr. Esselstyn saved my life 5 yrs ago. I'm' forever indebted to this man ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

@CDLStewart4477 7 месяцев назад

I love this amazing family. I pray my family will one day be plant based. Thank you

@bettymaugeri7316 7 месяцев назад

Thank you Esselstyn family🫶

@ElinorRumming 6 месяцев назад

I absolutely love this family. I could listen to them talk for days on end about anything. I especially love Rip's Instagram posts of their family meals. Real humans doing excellent work for humankind. ❤

@workhardplayharderx2 7 месяцев назад

Thank you SO MUCH for recording this and sharing it with all of us, very grateful for this platform.

@white-rabbit93 7 месяцев назад

Thank you everyone. Thanks to the Esselstyn family, Chuck, Dr. Barnard and all. Great show. ❤

@naturalhealthyrecipesremedies 7 месяцев назад

Since I started the plant based journey my appetite for processed foods and sugar went away. I also have more energy and feel lighter and when I put it to the test by eating processed foods again I feel bad and heavy again. I can not yet walk over water like Jesus but with the plant based lifestyle I feel like getting closer to it.

@jgrysiak6566 7 месяцев назад

Took me 6 yrs yo get flour products out. It's everywhere in life from pizza shops & donut places. Occasionally tries to creep back but I'm in control now.

@brigittereuss1996 7 месяцев назад

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@naturalhealthyrecipesremedies 7 месяцев назад

@@jgrysiak6566 I try as far as possible to create all my recipes from whole food sources

@lisaferrin 7 месяцев назад

When you think they could have kept this all to themselves, but chose to share with the world...pretty selfless and amazing. Ann and jane are like Lucy and ethel!

@kayegooey7454 6 месяцев назад

5:12 Lucy and Ethel 😅. Ann must be Lucy!

@kentroskelley1389 7 месяцев назад

Dr Esselstyn’s closing statement was epic and profound. I scrolled back to listen to it three times.

@cherylbush9780 7 месяцев назад

SHARE, SHARE, SHARE, the World's folk need to see and hear this! LIFECHANGING!💌

@DJMovit 7 месяцев назад

I love Ann "I just wanna say one thing!" Crielle Esselstyn😊 great family!

@lisaferrin 7 месяцев назад

Im 62 now but what a hoot to have jane as a sex ed teacher! This family is just such a class act

@plantpoweredcertifiednutri6740 7 месяцев назад

This was EXCELLENT 🌱🕺💯

@donnaserpiello6140 7 месяцев назад

So true about Dr Esselstyn. He called my brother personally to talk to him about his heart condition and what he could do. Unfortunately my brother did not follow the suggestions strictly and has lost his battle😢 I personally believe in the wfpbd and due to my husband recently having stents placed its my goal to make this our way of life. Id also love for my husband to get that stern chat with Dr Esselstyn 😁

@annemccarron2281 7 месяцев назад

I'm glad you said "strictly." You can't follow WFPB diet loosely to expect massive results. These people follow their program religiously!

@valeriee3039 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for celebrating the Esselstyn family.

@Butterflyneverlands 7 месяцев назад

They’re amazing ❤

@cherylbush9780 7 месяцев назад

For my three plant-based daughter warriors Christmas, ''Be A Plant-Based Woman Warrior: Live Fierce, Stay Bold, Eat Delicious'', recipe book and it's colorful rainbow colored pages, recipes galore and family photographs🥳💖

@cindyhoskins7391 7 месяцев назад

Need a link to buy it!!

@janismadigan6178 Месяц назад

I love the Esselstyn Family! Thank you so much for recording this and making it available to all of us!

@Mrm1985100 7 месяцев назад

Amazing family

@Cyanococcus25 7 месяцев назад

My mom & I, 3 years vegan! We love this journey🌱🌿💚

@LashusJourney 7 месяцев назад

Amazing

@VeganWellnessTribe 7 месяцев назад

How I love this group, Im commenting at the clit conversation moment 😂

@fairynelly4427 7 месяцев назад

The family & their foundation...Legends!

@turinhorse 7 месяцев назад

got to meet, shake hands and speak with John Caldwell Esselstyn for about 2 minutes after a talk he gave at a local medical school. his wife was there too but i didnt speak much to her after a brief introduction. wont forget that one. I got pictures to prove it!

@LashusJourney 7 месяцев назад

Amazing

@beanburrito8903 7 месяцев назад

This conversation was amazing ❤❤❤ The word of the day The Clitoris 😂😂❤❤

@loriwilliams2167 7 месяцев назад

You got it!! 🥰🌱

@white-rabbit93 7 месяцев назад

Honestly I've never seen the clitoris. I When everyone talked about clitoris in the red room and chat room, I googled in to locate and view the clitoris and I was shocked.

@loriwilliams2167 7 месяцев назад

@@white-rabbit93 ummm... are you male or female? Just curious..

@nofirstnolast2059 7 месяцев назад

Yes, @JaneEsselstyn! That study's finding was awesome.Thank you for beautifully weaving it into the wonderful discussion! 👏 👏 👏

@videoartsproductions1 7 месяцев назад

My dad never made it past 62 he had multiple by pass surgeries and several heart attacks starting when he was in his early forties. This was before stents. I knew intuitively early on it was diet related but I couldn't convince him of it though I did try. I gave him a salt substitute once and he got very angry about it so there wasn't much I could do. I think he truly believed there was nothing wrong with his diet and changing it wouldn't make any difference so he didn't even try, though I knew it was possible. This was in the late 70's. I became a vegetarian early on at age 20 after witnessing his demise and didn't consume any red meat and haven't in over 45 years and now a vegan for the past 6 years. Seeing other people suffer can have a very powerful and profound effect on people who witness it. Life style changing in my case.

@somdveganevents3947 6 месяцев назад

This was one of the best evenings of my life. It was such an honor to be amongst so much human greatness! Thank you so much, PCRM and the Esselstyn family, for being the ultimate of trailblazers and change-makers.

@user-qg4gx7be2j 7 месяцев назад

The best!

@lynn7348 7 месяцев назад

Lol, Jane..thank you for the humor! Love you

@kimskitchen123 7 месяцев назад

I was once fooled into believing the Keto diet was a good thing. BOY have I learned a lot since then. It hurt my health. I feel the diet is from the pit. I hate it. I gave it up last winter and my health has only improved. My husband had been on HBP meds and is off them now with perfect BP. Yay. Thank you to all of you! ❤

@user-yf9jp7dq6j 7 месяцев назад

love all of you ❤

@kardste8114 6 месяцев назад

GO JANE!!! Tell them!! Make it mainstream!! 👍🥰👍🙏

@bellen4329 7 месяцев назад

Jane is fabulous - 10K nerves in the clitoris - I'm 77 and wish I'd known this sooner, losing pleasure after menopause isn't normal no matter what my doctor has said. WFPB diet should be prescribed!!!

@ethicalphytophage 7 месяцев назад

That was lovely. The Esselstyn family and PCRM are both so inspirational. Also, all very funny. The whole sex ed stuff was on point, but also hilarious in how it was presented. 💚

@sunshineday3668 7 месяцев назад

What an incredible episode. Thank you everyone!

@NancyCronk Месяц назад

I admire these people tremendously. Jane has an interesting personality, doesn't she?

@sherrylenser 7 месяцев назад

Of course I just pre ordered this book ❤️

@misterincreds5341 5 месяцев назад

I enjoyed this. I really have learned so much from the Esselstyn's (all of them). Thank you for your stand in educating people on how important plant-based diet is for our health. Also hearing about Stanley and how well he has done on a plant-based diet was just way cool!!!

@terryelizabeth2841 7 месяцев назад

I so enjoyed this, and they are such a group of lovely people who have been so generous to share health with so many people

@dogmom1536 4 месяца назад

Dr. Esselstyn is a consummate gentleman. A true true treasure!

@jg769 6 месяцев назад

The Esselstyn family has helped me realize that simply being vegan isn’t enough. A person could eat loads of fried tofu and still technically be vegan. I like how they emphasize “plant based whole food” instead.

@doddsalfa 5 месяцев назад

Fried tofu is both a plant based and vegan but You would not use oil cooking tofu in the dr.Esselstyn diet

@jg769 5 месяцев назад

@@doddsalfa Correct. It’s amazing how oil can have such a negative impact.

@tinalaplaca6638 6 месяцев назад

I love this family....they are a lot of fun

@NN57143 2 месяца назад

Wonderful wonderful...what an incredible family and Dr Barnard is an absolute class act as well. Love him.

@salviabuckwheats7434 7 месяцев назад

Wow, what a presentation. I'm floored at it all, expressed so perfectly. Thank you.

@cyndyrogers2063 7 месяцев назад

BEST PODCAST EVER!!!!!!!!

@judyhoomalamalama 7 месяцев назад

Thank u to all of you on this video keeping us healthy.

@craftlover9702 14 дней назад

Love this family! I wish I would have grown up with this knowledge, however at 67 I am trying to follow their way of eating. I recently purchased the new cookbook which I am thoroughly enjoying. The one issue I have is the fact that I have had 3 kidney stones over my lifetime, calcium oxalate and eating a lot of certain greens, mainly the best ones for health increases my chances of another stone. I also have hemochromatosis and have to watch my iron intake. I would love suggestions on how to approach increasing greens in my diet without increasing the risk of another kidney stone. Appreciate any and all input on the matter. Congratulations on the award!!

@colleencook9149 7 месяцев назад

I love this family ❤ They have helped to change my life!

@tamisimone1377 7 месяцев назад

This is awesome! Thank you for all your sharing and helping people!❤

@user-or6tr1jc7s 7 месяцев назад

This is brilliant!!

@lindacarol122 7 месяцев назад

Rip is my dream man. 😍

@Lady_Clare4 7 месяцев назад

Loved this as always. ❤ I’m inspired to do better on my plant based journey!

@WeCelebrateEatingPlants 7 месяцев назад

Thank you! 🥦❤🥦❤

@galkinp 7 месяцев назад

So motivating!!! ❤❤❤❤

@sonjaBiblio 7 месяцев назад

What a great family! 😍

@ananavarrete7218 7 месяцев назад

Bendiciones a esta familia❤

@salviabuckwheats7434 7 месяцев назад

JANE DESERVED A STANDING OVATION FOR THAT. Superstars, all of them, and Jane is the spice. Ann also crazy lady, love how you could hear a pin drop in the carpet when she spoke of her wedding dinner. Lord, I love those two crazy ladies and I watch their videos all the time. I used to be addicted to Lindsay S. Nixon cookbooks but now it's the crazy Esselstyn ladies' cookbooks - they are great. These women are truly talented. Yeah, the men in that family are also. Jane says her husband Brian is the best cook in the house. Essy himself of course is the Head of the Superstars there...

@hayleevmealone 5 месяцев назад

I was at the NY one weeks earlier, wish I could have been here, I LOVE the Esselstyns! Fantastic episode ❤

@lisaferrin 7 месяцев назад

Ann pulling a tire? Incredible!

@tinalaplaca6638 6 месяцев назад

My mother will be celebrating her 101 birthday on January 2024 too....she has no wrinkles l call them creases. She's off all meds except 1 for blood pressure and 1 sleeping pill.....yay for mom. She was born and raised in mainland China. She resides in the bay area of the Silicon Valley. She's a sassy ole gal.....with 4 children and many grands and great. And she only had 1 husband......

@tiffanybittman7523 7 месяцев назад

Jane is so funny and true. Sad we never knew this until 2022.

@sonjaaeschbacher8318 6 месяцев назад

Herzlichen Dank

@lindawinters6285 7 месяцев назад

Wow!! THANKS, a million times over(!!!) for your contribution to the Plant Based way of life!! ~Lyn W. Fruitland ID USA

@plantbasedgirl5854 7 месяцев назад

Love the red, Chuck!

@melissanuno7464 7 месяцев назад

This was freaking hilarious 😂

@teresak9617 6 месяцев назад

You all are so blessed! The fact that your children didn’t rebel is amazing! I am plant based, but I served turkey, dressing and desserts that were not plant based for Thanksgiving so my family would come eat. I tried serving plant based last year and it was not well received. I love being plant based, but my family aren’t even slightly interested in eating that way. It’s heartbreaking. I’m so happy for you and your family!😃👏🏽💕

@margarett923 7 месяцев назад

I wanna make entrances like Ann when I'm that age

@cindyhoskins7391 7 месяцев назад

I want the dessert recipe!!!

@cathyfitzgerald3032 7 месяцев назад

The Heart Failure Clinic and the Cardiac Department in Dover NH sure does need to learn about the Esselstyn message.

@annemccarron2281 7 месяцев назад

Why don't people learn? This information has been available since at least 1980. I guess the deceiving dairy & meat industries have been too sucessful promoting their propoganda.

@PMO438 7 месяцев назад

💪💪💪👋👋👋

@SteveWondered-nt9vj 7 месяцев назад

I was here before 100k views

@Greg-kz3cf 7 месяцев назад

More than 5 years of plant based eating and I thought I was doing well - enjoying my food and life. My regular visit to my doctor identified a very high LPa level and a subsequent very high calcium score. I was already eating loads of greens at every meal but no amount of greens is going to reverse my LPa score. I’ve now just had 2 stents because I had an 80% and 70% blockages - no choice. I’m even more determined to eat loads of healthy greens every day. However, my point is I was never going to reverse this diagnosis - I would only have died trying.

@beepbeepnj2658 7 месяцев назад

You're Lipoprotein(a) level means nothing to the human body. "Remarkably, one-quarter of the centenarians had high Lp(a) serum levels even though they never suffered from atherosclerosis-related diseases." 1998 G. Baggio. "Nonetheless, the apo(a) size distribution in centenarians did not entirely explain the high Lp(a) levels observed in this population. Factors other than apo(a) size, and which may be either genetic or environmental in nature, appear to contribute to the elevated plasma Lp(a) levels of our centenarian population. We conclude therefore that high plasma Lp(a) levels are compatible with longevity." 1998 article by J Thillet

@Greg-kz3cf 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for that. I’ll try and get my hands on that article. With arteries that were 80% blocked and 70% blocked, I really had no alternative even though everything in my plant-based knowledge told me that this shouldn’t be happening. However, I will never give up on my plant based diet.

@beepbeepnj2658 7 месяцев назад

@@Greg-kz3cf It was not the Lp(a) that can be verified that caused any problem maybe it was what you were doing before the last 5 years. In some cases a high carb plant diet can cause heart disease which was proven with these slim and fit long term Chinese vegetarians with a BMI of 22 taking no medicines which could hurt their cardiovascular health is provided here. 2005 article "Vascular Dysfunction in Chinese Vegetarians: An Apparent Paradox?" The CIMT does not lie.

@Preppy-pink98 5 месяцев назад

I would love to have an impact like your family and also Thanksgiving with you would be a real fun time

@justbeingme1806 7 месяцев назад

I am just currently watching a new documentary on RU-vid. It’s called ‘The Obesity Conspiracy’ I got all excited because I saw familiar faces such as Dr. Barnard, Rip, Dr Clapper and some others. Problem is that about 18 minutes into the doc they encouraged people to eat meat. Thought I would pass this info to you folks.

@Jeffs60 7 месяцев назад

The average person in the USA consumes about 2.5 ounces or beef per day. So are you saying the obesity epidemic is caused from these 150 calories of food per day?

@annemccarron2281 7 месяцев назад

@@Jeffs60AND the eggs, milk, cheese, yogurt, processed foods, oils, chicken & fish!

@Jeffs60 7 месяцев назад

@@annemccarron2281 But single ingredient meat, egg, fish have all proteins, fats, vitamins and minerals except Vitamin C the body needs to prevent all diseases, processed foods and oils do not have all those nutrients so why have them listed all in the same one sentence?

@annemccarron2281 7 месяцев назад

@@Jeffs60EVERY food has nutrients - including processed foods. Even dirt has iron, cooper, & other micronutrients. Cardboard has fiber which is a macronutrient. You have to weigh the good components against the bad components. Give me a cup of processed tomatoe sauce with a little sugar (which is not good for me) over a cup with three egg yokes any time. I don't want sugar but I certainly don't want all the cholesterol in the yokes. Most people have to read dozens, if not hundreds, of research articles or watch dozens, if not hundreds, of honest, research-based podcasts to sort out the idiosyncrasies of a healthy diet or obtain a PhD in nutrition. Even then, people have misunderstandings.

@Jeffs60 7 месяцев назад

@@annemccarron2281 It's that complicated? How did your grandparents figure it out? And in 1826 President John Adams was 90 and eating pretty good and what type of synthetic vitamins and supplements was he taking?

@JD-xh6cy 7 месяцев назад

"Clitorati" is forever in my language now.

@beanburrito8903 7 месяцев назад

Omg the liver king 👑💖 😂😂😂 the king dummy

@BNFaraj-vy9zh 5 месяцев назад

This is like the Second Coming with Dr. Esselstyn overturning the tables of the money changers all over again!

@annwilliams6438 6 месяцев назад

Next step : to get millions more families like the Esselstyns…

@usatodaywife 6 месяцев назад

I have a quick question ~ I have a heart valve which has "calcification" on it and it's causing a murmur. It's not bad enough to need replacement--yet. The cardiologist says there's absolutely nothing I can do to change it, but then again, he doesn't seem to promote change of food/lifestyle ~ he actually seemed rather negative about me having gone whole-food plant-based, no oil, etc. Is it possible for this heart valve calcification to start to slowly go away? Can it slowly break down over time and kind of fix itself or at least "freeze" where it's currently at? If the answer is "no", then it's no, but I wonder if it's possible.

@jgrysiak6566 7 месяцев назад

OMG, Jane Esselstyn gone mental! Shes the new Margaret Cho! LMAO

@saladstrongsoprano9625 7 месяцев назад

1:04:58 Bestow to, or bestow on..? I'm confused.

@lauraw.7008 6 месяцев назад

32:54 🎉”if you want to slay the ed dragon & want your Puff the Magic Dragon to roar…”

@worthmoremusic 7 месяцев назад

🥰

@simounibarra1514 Месяц назад

Can whole foods plant based diet also reverse degenerative diseases like cervical spondylosis, ligaments and discs issues, stenosis and same ddd stuff?

@MignonWV 7 месяцев назад

I wish you al lived in Netherlands…

@MignonWV 7 месяцев назад

I am 100 % sure I would visit you then.

@Alicia-hf7zb 5 месяцев назад

Blood is life

@reggiedunlop2222 7 месяцев назад

Gather your friends around and become more “clitorate” 😂 Very clever

@callingoz7466 7 месяцев назад

The subject matter was plant based eating and disease. If sexual pleasure was a subject there should have been a parental advisory to allow parents of small children to decide whether to exposé their their children to this .

@saladstrongsoprano8643 7 месяцев назад

Dear WLC, learn the Latin term “ex aequo”. It means “ both parties are equal, and it is pronouced: ex ei( like in ei-ght) kwo.

@forestforthetrees1111 7 месяцев назад

I can not find a non stick pan that stays non-stick longer than 2 months. If we're not supposed to use oil, please tell me of a good and healthy non-stick pan that has no teflon, no aluminum, and no chemicals like PFOS. Thank you

@manjariiyer3484 7 месяцев назад

Use cast iron…behaves just like non stick except it’s permanent. The only thing is it requires maintenance.

@annemccarron2281 7 месяцев назад

@@manjariiyer3484Dr. Barnard advocates against cast iron pans. It can be ingested and can lead to toxic levels of iron if used often. Just use water to saulte.

@gayatrishivoham 7 месяцев назад

William Sonoma ns1 series non stick is what I use

@benda777nba 7 месяцев назад

Whats this about the liver king?

@SkylarWhitmire 2 месяца назад

Why no stevia?

@profc-i-g-t 18 дней назад

Jane's advocacy of "cliteracy" is important because the clitoris responds to vascular disease and blood flow, as well, just like the penis. Clitorises get erect just like penises -- i.e., women also have erections. These erections are responsible for clitoral pleasure in the female body. So having heart disease induces ED in men AND in women. In other words, erectile dysfunction an issue for BOTH men and women with heart disease. This is why Jane's point is important! Hooray for the Esselstyns!