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The Expanse Season 5 Ending Explained 

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The Expanse season 5 ending explained. Deep dive into what the end of the season means for the characters and the rest of the series. Please subscribe! - bit.ly/PetePeppers
The season finale of season 5 of the Expanse wrapped up the show’s penultimate season. Amazon Prime announced that the show was renewed for season 6, but it will be the final one on the streaming giant. The fifth season was one of it’s strongest with the Roci crew spread out, and Marco Inaros’ terror attack causing chaos in Sol system.
The ending of season 5 sees the crew of the Rocinante back together, and exposes who Marco’s secret Martian collaborators were. In the final episode the crew lose a member when their long time pilot Alex Kamal (Cas Anvar) dies. He was rescuing Naomi Nagata (Dominique Tipper) with Bobbie Draper (Frankie Adams), and suffered a stroke from a high-G maneuver.
Amos Burton (Wes Chatham) and Clarissa Mao (Nadine Nicole) have escaped Earth, and he convinces Holden to let her ship with them. She tried to kill him so it shows how much he trusts Amos.
Camina Drummer (Cara Gee) defied her Free Navy orders to destroy the Roci in episode 10. Marco Inaros’ (Keon Alexander) crewmember Karal was aboard the Tynan with Drummer, and she was killed by one of her crew named Michio. This saw their husband Serge spaced in retaliation, and that split the Drummer faction.
In the season 5 finale Marco and his fleet had a decisive victory in the battle for the Sol Ring Gate. With a coordinated attack that involved Sauveterre’s breakaway Martian fleet, and control of Medina station the Free Navy was able to dominate the Outer Planets. Sauveterre and the other Martian ships transited the Laconia Ring, and the protomolecule had already been delivered to Laconia.The Barkeith disappeared when it tried to transit the ring.
On Luna, in Season 5 episode 10, Chrisjen Avasarala (Shohreh Aghdashloo) is Secretary General again, and she’s declared martial law for Earth. She tries to keep morale high at a party, but the attack on the Sol Ring interrupts. She watches with James Holden (Steven Strait) and Bobbie as the breakaway Martian fleet leaves the system. Holden tells her that Marco probably paid for the Free Navy Ships with the protomolecule sample.
Let us know what theories you have about season 5, and how you think his story will end. If you’ve read ahead in the book series, please make sure to mark any book spoilers when you comment.
This Expanse season 5 episode 10 video explains everything you need to know about the episode and explains the ending. It explains what the characters are doing and what it means for the rest of the season.
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The Expanse 510 "Nemesis Games"
Written by Daniel Abraham, Ty Franck, Naren Shankar
Directed by Breck Eisner
Original Airdate 2/03/2020
Synopsis: Holden and the Roci face off against Marco's forces and Drummer, while Alex and Bobbie attempt a dangerous rescue of Naomi, and the balance of power in the Solar System shifts.
0:00 Intro/Nemesis Games Naomi
1:16 Setting the table for season 5
2:03 Marco and the Free Navy
3:15 The Roci Crew
4:16 Holden vs. Drummer
6:05 Alex, Bobbie, & Naomi
7:42 Amos & the Roci reunion
8:28 Avasarala
8:51 The Battle for Sol Ring
9:16 The Breakaway Martian Fleet
10:39 Laconia
11:49 What happened to the Barkeith
13:01 The Unknown Aggressors/Going Dutchman
14:05 Final thoughts
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@PetePeppers1
@PetePeppers1 3 года назад
I put out a season 6 questions video to follow up on some of what's discussed here. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NUMg8NThH9M.html Season 5 changes from the book ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-A6nmP8CgK14.html Season 5 End Credits scene explained ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5hL6_VkJqXo.html Let me know where you think things are heading in the expanse, and how the season 5 finale influenced your thinking.
@melanoidmarkus
@melanoidmarkus 3 года назад
Did Alex die like that in the books?
@PetePeppers1
@PetePeppers1 3 года назад
@@melanoidmarkus no, Fred did. Alex is still alive in the books.
@steriopticon2687
@steriopticon2687 3 года назад
@@melanoidmarkus Purely an artifact of the actor getting MeToo-ed.
@melanoidmarkus
@melanoidmarkus 3 года назад
@@steriopticon2687 What the hell happened??
@DF-qe6jk
@DF-qe6jk 3 года назад
@@melanoidmarkus Cas Anvar made the decision to intimidate girls he met at a sci-fi convention, including some underage, and got ousted for it.
@idanceforpennies281
@idanceforpennies281 3 года назад
Amos' role has grown and grown throughout the series. He's easily the most fascinating character now. He's gone from being a follower to a real leader, that potential was well hidden early on.
@rajalopez9357
@rajalopez9357 3 года назад
At first i saw him as the eventual antagonist to Holden. Boy was I wrong. He's a good guy. Just very broken.
@unwokeneuropean3590
@unwokeneuropean3590 3 года назад
And Alex was the glue of this team
@idanceforpennies281
@idanceforpennies281 3 года назад
@@unwokeneuropean3590 Killing off Alex was a mistake.
@quentinsirjean7655
@quentinsirjean7655 3 года назад
@@idanceforpennies281 he was killed cause of accusation sexual harassment, he doesn’t die in the books
@YeNZeC
@YeNZeC 3 года назад
@@quentinsirjean7655 More then likely bullshit, just like depp getting fired.
@crashstudi0s
@crashstudi0s 3 года назад
"hey boss, remember when you threatened to kill me when I was with the martians?" "yes" "was that for real?" "yeah, but a lot has changed" "so, no hard feelings for that?" "of course not" "I liked to talk with you, thanks... COME HERE PEACHES, is al right" And I died of laughter
@davidcoleman757
@davidcoleman757 3 года назад
Laughed out loud. Loved that scene.
@RichSmithson
@RichSmithson 3 года назад
Well now Alex has been Cancelled they need a new pilot. Perfect timing for Peaches.
@crashstudi0s
@crashstudi0s 3 года назад
@@RichSmithson But she's an electricity tecnician, no? Or engineer, can't remember. Why not keep around Bull, as he already showed some skill
@RichSmithson
@RichSmithson 3 года назад
@@crashstudi0s Yeah she would be a good soldier to help Amos and Holden away from the ship too. Im thinking the pilot from Season 5 will stay with them and be their new pilot.
@crashstudi0s
@crashstudi0s 3 года назад
@@RichSmithson I would like to see that, hope they do at least something interesting
@fabiandieterich4081
@fabiandieterich4081 3 года назад
The funny thing is, that Detective Miller hinted the possibility to "throw rocks" at the inners to disstract them from the real plan back in the first book ^^
@alexforce9
@alexforce9 2 года назад
To be fair - to throw asteroids to a enemy planet is kinda obvious if you think in interplanetary warfare frame of mind.
@Frenki94
@Frenki94 3 года назад
"I have a file with 900 pages of analysis and contingency plans for war with Mars, including fourteen different scenarios about what to do if they develop an unexpected new technology. My file for what to do if an advanced alien species comes calling is three pages long, and it begins with "Step 1: Find God." "
@giovannirodriguesdasilva646
@giovannirodriguesdasilva646 3 года назад
This is one of my favorite lines from Season 2
@nonman3634
@nonman3634 3 года назад
@@giovannirodriguesdasilva646 Too bad that it was in Season 2.
@giovannirodriguesdasilva646
@giovannirodriguesdasilva646 3 года назад
@@nonman3634 Now is 2
@simonghosh649
@simonghosh649 3 года назад
Avasarala
@bartolomeestebanmurillo4459
@bartolomeestebanmurillo4459 3 года назад
i.e. the Aliens who killed the Ring builders.
@varun009
@varun009 3 года назад
The scene of Naomi floating around the cetzymoka doing her hand signals was more believable than "gravity".
@dominicklittle9828
@dominicklittle9828 3 года назад
Especially because who the hell really knows exactly how much air can be inside her suit maybe she’s got a suit that’s too big and has more air than usual
@Minotaur-cd9ch
@Minotaur-cd9ch 3 года назад
cg was rough tho
@dominicklittle9828
@dominicklittle9828 3 года назад
Minotaur1501 ! Whole season was rough. There was as much action in the entire season as there is in one episode of previous seasons. Huge let down for me.
@varun009
@varun009 3 года назад
@@dominicklittle9828 I'm actually glad they were Conservative with the pacing. Rushing things did not end well for a certain HBO series.
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 3 года назад
totally faked us out. I WAS CONVINCED SHE WAS DEAD. Then they flipped it and had Kamal die from the hard burn.
@VanaeCavae
@VanaeCavae 3 года назад
From what i heard from others is that the protomolecule builders were either a level 2 or a level 3 civilization on the Kardashev scale and they were wiped out by a type 4 civilization.
@wilemelliott
@wilemelliott 3 года назад
eh...not exactly.... The Builders would definitely be at least mid tier type II on the Kardashev scale, as they had not harnessed the power of the ENTIRE galaxy [that we know of...if in book 9 they find gates to other gate hubs that take them to other galaxies, this puts them at a full type III by my estimation] because they could only go to star systems where there were planets that could support the protomolecule creating a ring [star systems with no planets, or the wrong materials, or too energetic a star that would destroy the PM en route are not viable]. Of course there are things in book 8 that put them on the mid to high end of a type II but I won't spoil them. As for what killed them...not sure they fit anywhere on the scale as we perceive it...but discussing it would also involve some serious spoilers. From what we have seen so far, we don't know if they do what they do or can do because its just a natural ability, or if its because they have "harnessed the energy" to put them on the Kardashev scale. Remember the scale relates to how much energy has been harnessed by a civilization...we don't even know if the killers have harnessed the power of their own star system, just that they were able to kill the builders and the builders tried burning out systems and quarntine, which could be the end result of some kind of plague, and not even a civilization.
@goncalodumas
@goncalodumas 3 года назад
It was the most spectacular episode of all, the initial battle had me transfixed. The best sci-fi series I've ever watched, period. I'll start reading the book while waiting for the sixth season. Also, this channel is my first stop after each episode. Nice work!
@andrewvincent9739
@andrewvincent9739 3 года назад
Agree I loved the battles! I did honestly have to watch it a second time to fully see what was going on. The shots were a little fast but watching it a second time really helped
@CaWFly
@CaWFly 3 года назад
yup that's what I'm doing . can't wait lol . so once I'm caught up . I'll more than likely go back and start reading from the beginning , Books adapted to TV will be different , so I need to read Corey's raw material . nice review Pete . I'll keep checking in here ;D thanks mate for the reviews and insights for this season , btw without me checking have you been reviewing this show from the start ?
@MichaelSmith-eg4bb
@MichaelSmith-eg4bb 3 года назад
Enjoy the books they are amazing!
@ericpowell4350
@ericpowell4350 3 года назад
Might want to check out Battlestar Galactica. It's head and shoulders over the Expanse.
@venataciamoon2789
@venataciamoon2789 3 года назад
@@ericpowell4350 Yeah great series but Babylon 5 tops them all.
@Plutodeli
@Plutodeli 3 года назад
First, we get an unfinished joke about the three human communities, then we do get the punchline several episodes later, only to conclude them all on a bar at last. Loved it.
@GizmoMaltese
@GizmoMaltese 3 года назад
I didn't pick that up. Thanks.
@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control
@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control 3 года назад
The Barkeith just got Etch-A-Sketched out of existence or something.
@niraj_dave
@niraj_dave 3 года назад
good one
@dankuchar6821
@dankuchar6821 3 года назад
Do you have to be old like me to know what an Etch-a-sketch is? Perfect reference by the way!
@Shadow__133
@Shadow__133 3 года назад
@@dankuchar6821 Theres digital versions of it nowadays 😂
@dankuchar6821
@dankuchar6821 3 года назад
@@Shadow__133 cool!
@stephenbriddon2796
@stephenbriddon2796 3 года назад
@@dankuchar6821 I fear so. Although some kids still think they are cool when they see them.
@biglammo
@biglammo 3 года назад
I honestly had no clue that Drummer's crew was written as a polyamorous family. I just thought they were chummy belters.
@maiaemmett2399
@maiaemmett2399 3 года назад
Here I thought it was refreshingly incredibly obvious lmao, they even refer to each other as spouses!
@accessyourinnerlight971
@accessyourinnerlight971 3 года назад
That makes sense from a biological standpoint as well. Further away from the sun, the necessity of warmth would make that type of family an ideal one.
@PlayaP69
@PlayaP69 3 года назад
I picked up on it after Drummer woke up with the guy, then went to sleep with the girl. Certainly, when both the guy and girl kissed and slept together. There was also a hint at one point when Serge caressed the other guy around the time when they were all together deciding to side with Marco. But overall, it was obvious and refreshing. . . The show takes place in the 24th century. It's easy to understand that all this largely believed idea of thinking monogamy is the way, that the world has now, is archaic and evolved. I'm just anxiously waiting for when Amos has a sexual/romantic evolvement with a guy 😂. It's been hinted, and a near miss, in previous seasons. Now, I know they are just dangling the carrot in front of us, while we wait for it do drop. And drop hot and heavy I hope 😉.
@williamadiputra2850
@williamadiputra2850 3 года назад
It makes a lot of sense. My head cannon is that in belters ship, privacy is hard to maintain. And loooong journeys in space with limited numbers of potential mates makes selective sex difficult.
@carlmauser1515
@carlmauser1515 3 года назад
Me too, and I think it feels like it was forced in for some "reasons" because it's unnecessary for the story and being on a ship/station for a longer time doesn't make you automatically a polyamorous swinger.
@mhoppy6639
@mhoppy6639 3 года назад
I’ve just binged the entire season 1-5 over 10 days and my goodness it was WONDERFUL. A superb realisation of the future and characterisation on a par with the Wire ie there’s no black and white here it’s more many many shades of grey. Marco is more of a traditional baddie but still enjoyed the tense climax in this season.
@Easy-Eight
@Easy-Eight 3 года назад
I'm going to buy the books and quit waiting 11 months for the new season
@AKarcticmallard
@AKarcticmallard 3 года назад
You should absolutely check out the books. I listened to them all on audio, which is well done.
@nicktaylor3707
@nicktaylor3707 3 года назад
I have done the same myself, I'm about half way through book 4, it's well worth the little bit of money and time!
@johnpatz8395
@johnpatz8395 3 года назад
Yeah, same here. I just started book 1
@davidbecquer3624
@davidbecquer3624 3 года назад
Welcome to an epic journey mate!
@rickbates9232
@rickbates9232 3 года назад
Enjoy ... I read them all in about 3 months about a year ago ... I can't wait until November 2021 and #9 the last The Expanse book ever, but also sad that it's coming to an end ... the Novellas are worth looking at too ... The Churn gives Amos's entire back story if want to understand his relationship with Lydia & how he escaped being on basic.
@DaveSimcik
@DaveSimcik 3 года назад
Pete, I just want to say how much I enjoy these explanations. You do a great job and are an excellent communicator. You greatly enhance the understanding and depth of the series. Thanks for your efforts.
@shadowdctr
@shadowdctr 3 года назад
Try reading the books, degenerate.
@ayoibaru5130
@ayoibaru5130 3 года назад
I completely agree. Pete makes it all easier to enjoy and understand. Thank you Pete.
@tedwojtasik8781
@tedwojtasik8781 3 года назад
Not happy with how they handled the death of Alex. It seemed to be, well, Alex died, oh well, so how was Earth?
@OliveTree487
@OliveTree487 3 года назад
They just wanted to remove Cas Anvar as quickly and simply as possible
@digitaldozer
@digitaldozer 3 года назад
​I suspect a lot of people simply don't know what's been going on with the actor that prompted the speedy exit of "Alex".
@kenbrenner750
@kenbrenner750 3 года назад
Alex was sexually harassing the staff. He was a pervo
@AccordGG1
@AccordGG1 3 года назад
@@kenbrenner750 i thought it was people from conventions and not staff. the woman lead him on cause let's be honest. cas wanted some poon. she didn't, but kept going to see cas. obviously i don't know the whole story but from what i read they just wanted to get rid of him to protect their image.
@aangairbend2714
@aangairbend2714 3 года назад
@@AccordGG1 You should learn more of the story then.
@cbenson513
@cbenson513 3 года назад
"the moderate faction of the OPA has a Fred Johnson sized hole in it"
@DavidKnowles0
@DavidKnowles0 3 года назад
to be fulfilled by Drummer, who I presume they decided has a bigger fan base than Fred.
@carnivoriousleaf
@carnivoriousleaf 3 года назад
@@DavidKnowles0 I mean it fits the narrative and the books better. Standard kill the old, the protagonists have a choice to grow in to/evolve the status quo. Plus in the book Fred Johnson doesn't survive the confrontation with the belter strike fleet
@LonnieWormley
@LonnieWormley 3 года назад
I have to say that your analysis paralysis of The Expanse has helped my wife and I completely comprehend everything. There are so many things that we missed in the series, and watching your videos helped us get how incredibly complicated yet wonderful this series is.
@AKarcticmallard
@AKarcticmallard 3 года назад
I did not understand that Drummer's crew was a polyamorous family. My wife and I both did not get that just by watching the show. That adds a lot more weight to their crewmate/hubby getting spaced. I appreciate the explanation.
@jackochainsaw
@jackochainsaw 3 года назад
I haven't read the books but I figured out the polyamory/polygyny angle from the off, mucky puppies.
@unexpected2475
@unexpected2475 3 года назад
Her character more-or-less superceded Michio from the books, who was polyamorous, so I suppose that makes sense.
@richardpagel6959
@richardpagel6959 3 года назад
Drummer and all this Belters polyamorous stuff... I mean 4 seasons of the Expanse and this was never even mentioned and so it just felt forced into the season... like the 3rd season was full of religious bullshitterey (the worst season so far from Expanse). Just like if there were people who said: "We have to add these ideologic, policital topics into the series somehow."
@kenperlman2204
@kenperlman2204 3 года назад
Have to agree with Drummer. Essentially they were conquered slaves at the mercy of Marco who hasn’t any mercy. No way to live and the only way to get free.
@CheeHoewCheng
@CheeHoewCheng 3 года назад
@@richardpagel6959 I don't feel that they've forced polyamory into the story. Heinlein introduced the idea in "The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress", where lunar families are organised this way due to the harsh and vastly different lunar environment. Belters in the Expanse are quite reminiscent of the lunar colonists in Heinlein's book.
@vaylon1701
@vaylon1701 3 года назад
I, for one, will miss Alex and nobody should forget that without his tireless efforts, this show would have died when sysfy cancelled it. He was the main driving force to keep it going. Not ignoring what he did, but give credit when credit is due and scorn when it is due.
@MK-rw1on
@MK-rw1on 3 года назад
George Washington owned slaves but we still admire him for being such a great statesman. People arent only good or bad. I think this series shows that very much. Alex saved the series and for that I will forever be grateful but I will swear on this name for what he has done to all these women.
@william9170
@william9170 3 года назад
@@MK-rw1on He sent creepy messages lol. Unless he assaulted any of them my sympathy for the girls is very low. He lost his job, they got likes and re tweets.
@89DerChristian
@89DerChristian 3 года назад
@@william9170 What the fuck are you talking about. He used a position of power to target women both on set and in the fanbase.
@zazugee
@zazugee 2 года назад
@@89DerChristian the only story is heard was of one girl who had access to his property and went there often, i dont know why some stranger comes to live at your place if you're not intimate with them and i the messages was of him complaining about her not getting physical with him while taking advantage of staying at his place
@anonymus6556
@anonymus6556 2 года назад
Fuck the showrunners for letting him die such a pathetic death. They didn’t have to take it out on a fictional character
@deanzaZZR
@deanzaZZR 3 года назад
As a non-book reader viewer there was A LOT of information to try to process in the back side of Episode 10. A bit too much I would say, but videos such as this help a bunch. Thanks
@edwardkane7361
@edwardkane7361 3 года назад
I seem to remember in episode 1 or 2 (during a UN council meeting) that apparently some colony ships had gone missing...wonder if this wasn't just down to belter pirate activity...but instead because of some of them going 'Dutchman'. I hated the rogue MCRN....but still...that's a horrific way to die.....I wonder if they were even aware of what was happening to them?
@widget3672
@widget3672 3 года назад
In the books its described as though they cease to see through their eyes, so I think they were aware of it while it was happening, but they had no idea what it was - sort of like trying to describe what its like to take a shitload of acid while you're being mauled by a viscious bear that wants to shatter every atom of you. I wouldn't know but it would be such an alien and violent thing I can't think of any alternatives that might fit.
@edwardkane7361
@edwardkane7361 3 года назад
@@widget3672 That's a good analogy...and...yikes! :s
@PetePeppers1
@PetePeppers1 3 года назад
The next and last line of the epilogue I was reading from Book SPOILERS Sauveterre did not notice his death.
@wilfy4622
@wilfy4622 3 года назад
Heh I didn't know that was them dying. I just taught that's how it looks like when you pass through a ring, since none of the previous season really showed the passing. Just a ship on the one side of a ring gate and then popping on the other side but not what happens in between.
@widget3672
@widget3672 3 года назад
@@wilfy4622 they showed Holden's perspective of passing through a ring at the end of season 3 though
@darkaero
@darkaero 3 года назад
I'll miss Alex in the show, he was such a unique character. An ex-martian pilot, a south-asian who is basically a space cowboy - accent, musical preference, attitude and all, a man who genuinely seemed to care not just about his crew, but everyone; but especially those he felt he needed to protect. The scenes where he went back into the simulation over and over to see if there was any way to save the people who were lost in the landing pod definitely showed that side of him and how frustrated and responsible he felt. He was also just an all around fun character to watch, in any situation.
@Glitch_Gaming
@Glitch_Gaming 3 года назад
Amos at the end with peaches was brilliant, his logic was spot on, so him lol
@tclass99
@tclass99 3 года назад
I would love it if Charles Dance (Tywin Lannister from GoT) could play Admiral Duarte!
@RuthwikRao
@RuthwikRao 2 года назад
lol he's definitely the type. Interesting how even in some of the fanart for Dune's Emperor Shaddam Corrino IV, you see him being used.
@filo175
@filo175 3 года назад
The thing I hate about season 5 is a few episodes with needlessly long filler scenes and then very rushed episode 10 which in my opinion should have played out in at least 2 episodes.
@yeetbaljeeet5435
@yeetbaljeeet5435 3 года назад
Yup then they could’ve actually leaned slower into Alex’s death instead of him being alive one scene then dead the next
@AuralAlliance
@AuralAlliance 3 года назад
@@yeetbaljeeet5435 That was because of the actor (Cas Anvar) being kicked off the show shortly after shooting was done for being a sexually assaulting piece of garbage. He wasn't meant to die, and killing him off was a last-minute fix.
@donkeysunited
@donkeysunited 3 года назад
@@AuralAlliance Exactly. They had to go back and film some new scenes to explain his sudden absence. I like where Holden gently touches Alex's name on the plaque showing lost crew. It's a sign that the actor Cas is missed by the cast. Whatever about his failures in his personal life, he was a very good actor and character in the show and will be missed from that perspective.
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan 3 года назад
@@AuralAlliance Allegedly ;)
@jamesjoe2399
@jamesjoe2399 3 года назад
@@AuralAlliance allegedly wtf is wrong with this era
@iliketrains0pwned
@iliketrains0pwned 3 года назад
I kind of liked how Alex met Sauveterre instead of Duarte. In the books, he seemed awfully suspicious from the moment we first met him; and I was worried how the show would portray Duarte without giving his intentions away. But, considering how extremely secretive and carefully precise Duarte is about making long term plans, it makes sense that he would try to remain a boring, ignorable background character up until the Laconians broke away from the Solar System. Heck, he hid his intentions on a large scale by pinning the system's focus on Marco. I could see him doing the exact same on a small scale as well.
@justgivemethetruth
@justgivemethetruth 3 года назад
Where does the term Laconian come from, and who is it referring to? Is that the term for the breakaway Martians?
@LordOfNihil
@LordOfNihil 3 года назад
they probably did it this way for casting purposes. they did it this way so they wouldn't have to retain actors.
@LordOfNihil
@LordOfNihil 3 года назад
@@justgivemethetruth its the name of the system they are colonizing. the books don't explain how the systems got their names.
@ClayHales
@ClayHales 3 года назад
I could have sworn that it was Duarte on screen in that final scene. I don't know if they mentioned Duarte, or if I just mentally filled that in when I saw they were going to Laconia. When they went Dutchman, I was just like why are they screwing up the story for the future.
@Adam-nc6qg
@Adam-nc6qg 3 года назад
@@justgivemethetruth The term "Laconia" dates back to the times of antiquity, used to describe land in Greece inhabited by the Spartan peoples (ie Laconians), after that the term is used for someone who is used to living under harsh and simple conditions.
@marknovak6498
@marknovak6498 3 года назад
I need to read the books. This series is just too good.
@widget3672
@widget3672 3 года назад
Yes. Do it.
@PetePeppers1
@PetePeppers1 3 года назад
Highly recommended doing that.
@GerdionXT
@GerdionXT 3 года назад
If I want to pick up at season 6 stats with book should I pick?
@widget3672
@widget3672 3 года назад
@@GerdionXT I would recommend starting at the start since there are minor differences after the first one that might confuse you a little, especially later on. Bear in mind that with season 5 finale we are already beginning to see some major shifts. But if you really don't want to read them all, I would suggest you read book 5 and then 6 so you're at least up to speed on what happened before that part of the story, otherwise some characters are different, some are dead already and some aren't dead yet and you'll have a hard time enjoying it.
@GerdionXT
@GerdionXT 3 года назад
@@widget3672 I see it's like GOT is space. Thank you for a complex replay. I think I will go for book 5 and 6 perhaps
@tyler6003
@tyler6003 2 года назад
Avasarala and Drummer have been ICONS in this season and previous seasons. I love their character archs and you see their vulnerability more this season. I'm glad it didn't all bank on the chosen one theme with Holden. Seeing Bobbie hit rock bottom and then bounce back showed many of her layers
@OHJLM
@OHJLM 3 года назад
Hoping Domonique gets an Emmy nomination. Her scenes were incredible.
@StephBer1
@StephBer1 3 года назад
It was gut-wrenching watching her try everything she could to try to warn them. All the setbacks, failures, the lack of air, how bad she must have felt the whole time because of the "space walk" and being the lure for her family to die. It was exhausting, and that last scene of her signing to Alex was magnificent. It broke my heart though that Alex died.
@geofftottenperthcoys9944
@geofftottenperthcoys9944 3 года назад
Her whole arc this season is crap.
@OHJLM
@OHJLM 3 года назад
@@geofftottenperthcoys9944 How so?
@geofftottenperthcoys9944
@geofftottenperthcoys9944 3 года назад
@@OHJLM Too much family drama.
@yeetbaljeeet5435
@yeetbaljeeet5435 3 года назад
@@geofftottenperthcoys9944 yeah i agree 😬i liked this season but it didnt hit the same as the last 4 seasons
@TibetanHusky8
@TibetanHusky8 3 года назад
It's taken me 3 days to realize this, but Drummer didn't kill Karal, I think, because she wanted to swap her for Serge. So Oksana blaming it all going wrong & Serge dying isn't fair, but Drummer didn't bother arguing the point I'm making. Oh well.
@justgivemethetruth
@justgivemethetruth 3 года назад
That sounds reasonable, but how would they have even done the swap, the level of trust between the two groups being so bad, and Marco being such a psycho?
@Bitchslapper316
@Bitchslapper316 3 года назад
Fuck Oksana. She's the reason Serge was even on Marcos ship and the reason Karal was on her ship. Drummer should have gotten rid of her and Bertold a long time ago.
@TibetanHusky8
@TibetanHusky8 3 года назад
@@justgivemethetruth good point. The swap could have easily gone wrong due to Marco's erratic nature.
@unwokeneuropean3590
@unwokeneuropean3590 3 года назад
Drummer is the captain. No need to cry and explain.
@unwokeneuropean3590
@unwokeneuropean3590 3 года назад
@National Socialism I really hated how the "number 2" lady on that ship behaved in a way to "protect Drummer". She constantly wanted her to kneel to oppressor Marco. She made her give away her gun even though she seen she is struggling. Good friend would back her up, tell her that they need to stay low for a while but they will fight back later, that nothing is changed, that Marco is the bad guy. And this lady done all her moves in a way to even more destabilize Drummer's emotions and mental power.
@thatbrianwallace
@thatbrianwallace 3 года назад
Thank you for this! I had no idea what the heck I was watching with the Barkeith scene.
@steriopticon2687
@steriopticon2687 3 года назад
I kinda wish I could have seen it without reading the books, but on the whole, I highly recommend reading them.
@powerliftingcentaur
@powerliftingcentaur 3 года назад
Pete, I have been watching your videos on my TV. As a result, I haven’t been able to leave comments. Your series of videos about Season 5 was just fantastic. Thank you so very much. Season 5 was yet another pinnacle of achievement for The Expanse. The acting! The woman playing Karal was fascinating in her portrayal. But so was Marco as the mad genius. That being said, the crown of achievement goes to Naomi. The fact that this entire cast is overlooked for awards is shameful. I am not at all curious about TV, especially in this age of too many options. I look forward to your future videos stirring my interest to possibly investigate new shows or films.
@Cam-sl8ve
@Cam-sl8ve 3 года назад
Stephen, this was most definitely rock-bottom for the series. Season 5 was very nonsensical, immersion breaking and full of filler that puts generic soap operas to shame. Let's hope Season 6 focuses on the areas and characters that we actually care about.
@powerliftingcentaur
@powerliftingcentaur 3 года назад
@@Cam-sl8ve We disagree. Completely.
@walterseppala2237
@walterseppala2237 3 года назад
Thanks for a couple things I missed. Haven't watched it but once, going back for a full binge watch from the beginning of season 1.
@vendettamedianl
@vendettamedianl 3 года назад
The show will never be the same anymore without our trusty pilot Alex :(.
@Orbitaga
@Orbitaga 3 года назад
He should've kept his "joystick" in control
@retiefgregorovich810
@retiefgregorovich810 3 года назад
@@Orbitaga Another show ruined by Me-too movement. Oh well, show was turning into boring woke feelings show anyway.
@Jadedgoober7
@Jadedgoober7 3 года назад
@@retiefgregorovich810 imagine being this much of a piece of shit.
@artboymoy
@artboymoy 3 года назад
@Love You It really had that feeling for me. Joyous feeling wiped by heartbreak.
@MultiCren
@MultiCren 3 года назад
@@retiefgregorovich810 he sexually assaulted people, that’s not wokeness or me too, it’s just common decency!
@nv_spartan1771
@nv_spartan1771 3 года назад
The Irony is that Marco and Chrisjen wanted essentially the same thing, to control traffic through the ring gate.
@artruisjoew5473
@artruisjoew5473 2 года назад
It really is not the same. Marco wanted to control the ring so that nobody can colonize it. He did it because he knows that the belt and its people is done for: with new habitable planets, nobody will need the resources from the belt anymore. And since belters body often reject the anti gravity treatment it means the belters cannot colonize the habitable worlds, and those who can turns into normal people within a generation, which means the belt will go the way of Mars but in a much worse way. Nobody needs the belt at this point. If the belt evaporated the next day, nobody will care - except that there will be less piracy between the gate and the inner planets. On the other hand Avasarala want to control the ring so people can colonize the planets without causing the next Black Death event which is usually the biggest issue with colonizing a brand new biome.
@nickzales6117
@nickzales6117 3 года назад
Another very fine analysis. Keep up the good work!
@stevevet3652
@stevevet3652 3 года назад
Great commentary. Thanks for your effort.
@seycheles27
@seycheles27 3 года назад
One of the best sci-fi in a long time. And the physics is stupidly close to reality. These guys made their research.
@Ispeakthetruthify
@Ispeakthetruthify 3 года назад
Yes...the Epstein Drive, people floating naked through space and surviving, traveling through vast distances of space within minutes, ring gates to other galaxies/systems, the protomolecule, super powered mutants that are kept in an underground prison, humans living on the Moon/Mars/Asteroid Belt, said humans at war with each other, etc, etc, etc... Yes...this show is VERY close to reality.
@17thhokage52
@17thhokage52 3 года назад
@@Ispeakthetruthify pooper
@vimalcurio
@vimalcurio 3 года назад
@@Ispeakthetruthify you're here stupid lol
@Ispeakthetruthify
@Ispeakthetruthify 3 года назад
@@vimalcurio Liking the show, and believing everything in the show to be accurate to reality...are two completely different things. I'm a Sci-Fi junkie: I like good, bad, goofy, big budget, and cheap Sci-Fi. But the nature of the genre, is for the viewer to have some suspension of disbelief.
@matthewhaines1879
@matthewhaines1879 3 года назад
The only one of those things forbidden by modern physics is the ring gates and the protomolecule. Considering we haven’t even invented a fusion drive yet I think it’s too early to rule out Epstein drives. You can survive in space for about 90 seconds without a suit. Humans living around the solar system and fighting each other is definitely possible and I would say fairly likely for the future.
@peterhowie1212
@peterhowie1212 3 года назад
It's pretty much assumed there was a reshoot to kill off Alex, right? I'd love to see the original.
@MrShadowpanther3
@MrShadowpanther3 3 года назад
It did seem... abrupt.
@Woodchuckk
@Woodchuckk 3 года назад
Forgive me, I'm not up to date on all the news, but why did they kill him off? Was his death not in the books? I really liked his character and I'm going to miss him, but Game of Thrones has toughened me up to main character deaths.
@Woodchuckk
@Woodchuckk 3 года назад
@National Socialism Thanks for explaining. I really hate cancel culture, this makes even more sad now that I know the reason.
@MrShadowpanther3
@MrShadowpanther3 3 года назад
@@Woodchuckk Cass Anvar had some "misconduct" charges outside the show with some ladies. As far as I know he is not denying it so the show had to cut him loose. They chose to alter the storyline to fit "reality" and so... the Roci loses its pilot to a stroke.
@NicTheGreek1979
@NicTheGreek1979 3 года назад
@National Socialism I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not....🤔😉🤣
@ddmrv75
@ddmrv75 3 года назад
all your videos about the expanse are so so good !!!!
@vaneu
@vaneu 3 года назад
Very good quality recap and video! Will subscribe
@chrisdjernaes9658
@chrisdjernaes9658 3 года назад
Brilliant Summary ...
@ilhamwicaksono5802
@ilhamwicaksono5802 3 года назад
The best worldbuilding in series ever! The details, the story, politics, sci fi element, cast, not perfect but still very very underrated
@finalfrontier001
@finalfrontier001 2 года назад
Not its not its not even remotley good writing.
@ilhamwicaksono5802
@ilhamwicaksono5802 2 года назад
@@finalfrontier001 I said the best world building and you commented writing
@finalfrontier001
@finalfrontier001 2 года назад
@@ilhamwicaksono5802 Clearly never read sci fi before.
@ilhamwicaksono5802
@ilhamwicaksono5802 2 года назад
@@finalfrontier001 what sci fi series have better world building? I said sci fi series not book
@jpkgojpkgo2440
@jpkgojpkgo2440 2 года назад
Spectacular summary and conjecture! You're pretty good at this! Thanks.
@TheLebno
@TheLebno 3 года назад
I really love this so show! And thank you for the video. Great stuff. It feels a bit empty now after I finished the last episode yesterday.
@ZatoichiBattousai
@ZatoichiBattousai 3 года назад
Peaches is a Pilot!
@LordOfNihil
@LordOfNihil 3 года назад
its still up in the air. i think ive said before that while she can pilot a ship, bull has combat experience. wouldnt doubt that both actors are in flexible contracts, so they can go either way as needed. its also hinted, in season 3 that bobbie can pilot as well. so it will be interesting to see who ends up flying the rocci.
@joseverano6233
@joseverano6233 3 года назад
Nah. Peaches is a second mechanic next to amos. I think bull will replace alex as pilot because of the scene where bull was drinking on alexs cup.
@thecocktailian2091
@thecocktailian2091 3 года назад
Problem being Bull said he was an adequate pilot, nothing more. Peaches is a superior pilot, albeit lacking combat experience. Peaches sliding in like she did is FAR too slick and annoying. Bobbi would complete the quadrinity but since she became Martian/ UN liaison, dont think thats going to.........fly. However it goes, Alex's Mag boots are way too big to fill.
@Mortlupo
@Mortlupo 3 года назад
@@thecocktailian2091 Who says all three may end up on the Rossi.
@Paul-vf2wl
@Paul-vf2wl 3 года назад
@@thecocktailian2091 The real problem is the actor playing Bull has no talent
@Utubedarr
@Utubedarr 3 года назад
I think Peaches will be the new pilot! Bull has other duties to attend too and he admitted he is not THAT great of a pilot.
@TheKarebear666
@TheKarebear666 3 года назад
Peaches would be a kick-ass pilot. Her sister was a great pilot and she probably grew up trying to get out of her shadow and is a great, if not better, pilot because of it!!
@AccordGG1
@AccordGG1 3 года назад
i think peaches is a good pilot considering she wanted to take over the racing team for julie when she quit so she definitely has experience. i think bull is too stubborn and he has no connection to the crew whatsoever. at least peached cares for amos and amos cares the other two so she will do her best as a pilot.
@89DerChristian
@89DerChristian 3 года назад
@@AccordGG1 Yeah but she is a racer pilot, not a martian corvette pilot... Wouldn't place a formula 1 driver in my A1 Abrams tank...
@AccordGG1
@AccordGG1 3 года назад
@@89DerChristian how about you use a fair comparison? you're not plucking someone who drove f1 yesterday and throwing him in the tank to figure it out. she has been with roci for months while being transported back to earth for her trial. which is why she and amos built a relationship when she helped him out. she is more familiar with that ship than you think. alex wasn't really a gunship pilot either. he said he was transport, a "glorified bus driver", his words not mine. alex is the best comparison that debunks your silly comparison. controls on the expanse ships vary but are mostly similar which is why all the pilots can usually figure out how to fly a ship they've never piloted. so yea in the expanse, i would trust the "f1 driver" to pilot my tank.
@stephenbutler3929
@stephenbutler3929 3 года назад
@@AccordGG1 I got the impression from the books that "glorified bus driver" was driving something like the Roci with Marines special forces on-board, getting them to where they needed to go and picking them up again and avoiding being seen. So it was "glorified bus driving" because engaging things wasn't really part of the mission profiles.
@WakaiSimba
@WakaiSimba 3 года назад
Great video, there is so much more to talk about in this show, but well done
@markhickey3590
@markhickey3590 3 года назад
Hey, Pete! Thank you for your video & your channel! You cleared up a number of things for me. I haven't read any of the books but I love the series. Great work! Mark
@seriouslypretending
@seriouslypretending 3 года назад
Laconia looks pretty established with all those lights. I was wondering if there was a time jump. Maybe it was the protomolecule? I am interested to see what becomes of the Laconian civilization messing with the protomolecule. Crazy martians on a planet with atmosphere with something they can't begin to understand. I think when the ship went dutchmen the beings (aliens or whatever that is) is studying the ship and the people. The protomolecule breaks things down to individual components so it's possible this works in a similar way. Perhaps it's an antiprotomolecule? Maybe it's a weapon from the builders that went out of control?
@widget3672
@widget3672 3 года назад
I'm waiting on the last book and despite coming to some understanding of what causes it, the actual things and indeed the whole ring space remains an absolute mystery.
@steriopticon2687
@steriopticon2687 3 года назад
I'm pretty sure most of the stuff on Laconia has been there for a bazillion years, and the protomolecule sample is waking it up, just like on New Terra. In an episode last season we saw a screen showing the Martian conspirators were involved in a ring gate survey, so they probably picked Laconia for a reason.
@wilemelliott
@wilemelliott 3 года назад
@@steriopticon2687 they did....and that stuff in orbit was the reason...can't say more without dropping into spoiler territory
@nancyandaharon
@nancyandaharon 3 года назад
@@steriopticon2687 'we saw a screen showing the Martian conspirators were involved in a ring gate survey" where is that? in the last episode?? I feel like I have to watch this and pause every couple of frames to get EVERYTHING that is being put out, said and shown.
@billross7245
@billross7245 3 года назад
We're able to break the strict POV style of the book and explore what's happening on the other side of the gates. I'm feeling a lot better about ending with S6 if they continue checking in on Laconia.
@travisspazz1624
@travisspazz1624 3 года назад
As a non book reader my first thought was Event Horizon!!
@bowlagrits
@bowlagrits 3 года назад
If they had there eyes ripped out I’d agree. “where were going you don’t need eyes”
@thecocktailian2091
@thecocktailian2091 3 года назад
Become a book reader.
@travisspazz1624
@travisspazz1624 3 года назад
@@thecocktailian2091 I will!! I'm waiting for the inevitable 9 book boxset!!
@thecocktailian2091
@thecocktailian2091 3 года назад
@@travisspazz1624 Heard that. My series collections always tend to be a hodgepodge of Hardcover, paperback, over various printings. I either dont have the patience to wait for the full series or if it has been out, not the coin to buy the proper set.
@AntonAdelson
@AntonAdelson 3 года назад
Warp Gods are thirsting!
@josephhall3678
@josephhall3678 2 года назад
I am really enjoying your videos. As a fan of the show, your videos do a great job recapping and explaining what happened. Thanks for making these videos, and keep up the great work.
@jayaisenbrey1498
@jayaisenbrey1498 3 года назад
Good job explaining the last episode
@JoJoJoker
@JoJoJoker 3 года назад
The Amos on Earth storyline was by far the most compelling. Eric was my favorite character of the season. He will he missed.
@SPARTAN23123xS23x
@SPARTAN23123xS23x 3 года назад
The novella "Auberon" is for you friend.
@wilemelliott
@wilemelliott 3 года назад
@@SPARTAN23123xS23x In other words "He'll be back" ;)
@Lycan3303
@Lycan3303 3 года назад
RIP Alex .....solar systems best pilot
@Dan-uf2vh
@Dan-uf2vh 3 года назад
Alex died because the actor was attacked by virtue signalers in real life, guilty before proven innocent
@EnterpriseKnight
@EnterpriseKnight 3 года назад
@@Dan-uf2vh Even people in the production team had abuse problems with Cas.
@Dan-uf2vh
@Dan-uf2vh 3 года назад
@@EnterpriseKnight I hear more believable allegations with regards to the Game of Thrones directors but power plays differently at the top, eh? in any case, I just don't know but it's far more likely to be a populist move on part of the owning studio than actual blame with the actor
@NL0Gwenster
@NL0Gwenster 3 года назад
@@Dan-uf2vh He only got fired after an independant investigation that the studio started . It's what i've read across multiple sites. So if that's true they give him the benefit of the doubt before firing him.
@lanycera
@lanycera 3 года назад
@@Dan-uf2vh Dear keyboard warrior Dan. Maybe next time inform yourself properly first, because most studios don't just launch an independent investigation and let an actor go without proof and based on a single accusation. This is not even remotely comparable to Johnny Depp's case. It was many women, including people who have worked with him on set, and a former director. Maybe consider being less of a turd next time.
@Bucky2015
@Bucky2015 3 года назад
Pete - I'll echo what David S said yesterday in that I really enjoy and appreciate your dissection and explanations of each episode. Your work fills in a lot of gaps for me, as I have not read the books (yet). Please keep up the great work! Can't wait for Season 6 and am hoping the series continues beyond.
@DavidSaundersPosts
@DavidSaundersPosts 3 года назад
Good analysis.
@adamconlon7729
@adamconlon7729 3 года назад
Rip Alex :'(
@admusic247
@admusic247 3 года назад
That Naomi scene was powerful AF
@Angarsk100
@Angarsk100 3 года назад
In my view, all she did from the moment she took the jump into vacumm. She was like the T1000 relentless.
@unwokeneuropean3590
@unwokeneuropean3590 3 года назад
I hate crying women characters. Naomi is smart but she is a crying B. Hoped she would be gone... NOT ALEX, he was the soul of this show.
@admusic247
@admusic247 3 года назад
@@unwokeneuropean3590 alex literally was fired because he assaulted underage woman. Watch your step man. Trust me, I get your frustration w Naomi crying for 7 episodes because I was frustrated too. But all that was meant to build up to the last episodes desperate plunge into space. It was supposed to frustrate you because that was the mood. It’s sad you watched a whole character arc and it went above your head because of your bias and ignorance
@admusic247
@admusic247 3 года назад
@@Angarsk100 lol much deeper than that. If she just jumped out of the spaceship on episode 3 then it wouldn’t have the dramatic effect it had on the finale. Lord knows we were all tired of seeing Naomi in that spaceship. And that was the point. She was frustrated and we were all frustrated. Even when she jumped out I was like finally and end to this arc... then I saw her doing the hand signs, I heard Bobbie hit her in the silence of space... And I cried. Literally. Because I felt so relieved. It took me days to process what I saw and why I was so emotionally invested in that scene even tho I thought I loathed the Naomi arc... I cried? Well I figure that’s the beauty of the scene🤷🏽‍♂️
@MK-rw1on
@MK-rw1on 3 года назад
@@unwokeneuropean3590 alex departure is sad. we can all be grateful for what he has done for the series but I will swear on his name till the end of time for what he has done to all those women.
@aurelienyonrac
@aurelienyonrac 3 года назад
Nice job. Thank you
@PetePeppers1
@PetePeppers1 3 года назад
Welcome
@CEOsario
@CEOsario 3 года назад
Nice one...Thanks for sharing...
@jaminschmitt
@jaminschmitt 3 года назад
Would have been nice if Alex remained alive. The actor’s transgressions must have been legit.
@michaelolsen2760
@michaelolsen2760 3 года назад
I would have preferred a recasting
@cmorillo2865
@cmorillo2865 3 года назад
Show runner explains that Alex’s death was discussed and planned BEFORE all his transgressions became known.
@BusyBasaz
@BusyBasaz 3 года назад
@@cmorillo2865 Is what they said to soften the blow with the fans. No doubt they knew about it before making their decision. All of the characters had plot armor, and suddenly with this in season 5, he dies from a stroke. A bit too convenient.
@LancerX916
@LancerX916 3 года назад
@@cmorillo2865 He is alive in the books so I am pretty sure his abuse sealed the actor's fate on the show. The rumor is they brought everyone back to do reshoots once the investigation finished and it proved the actor was guilty of abuse.
@1975supermike
@1975supermike 3 года назад
They dont have to be real now days.
@kevindelaney1951
@kevindelaney1951 3 года назад
I’ve read all 8 core books & 1 supporting. Great reads. Mind candy for my sci-fy soul. A good book to screen effort by The Expanse writing team. Sad that the real life events led to a significant alternative re the character Alex. The character Drummer is a good gathering of a few book characters. How Drummer connected with Holden in episode 10 was a good alternate to the book. The dropping of the Mars backstory from the TV season 5 is unfortunate but workable for me. Sadly the humour I was looking for re Amos & Peaches getting on the moon & on to the Roci was lost in the need to deal with the... Alex event. Still a great show. Not seeing how they can justify ending it with just one more season.
@aaronia8092
@aaronia8092 3 года назад
I guess you mean you've read the 8 books already published (and maybe some of the novellas). We are all waiting for the 9th book to be available in a few months.
@steriopticon2687
@steriopticon2687 3 года назад
@@aaronia8092 Ask him how he did it!
@lanycera
@lanycera 3 года назад
I wish they'd split the last season in 2 - or make it an extended season with more episodes.
@kevindelaney1951
@kevindelaney1951 3 года назад
@@aaronia8092 Hi, Persepolis Rising is the last one I’ve read. Your right I may have tossed in one of the supporting efforts. Looking forward to the next & possibly last. Sad that all good things must come to an end.
@kevindelaney1951
@kevindelaney1951 3 года назад
@@lanycera I think the background around the Mars story was worth a couple of episodes.
@clipper747pa2
@clipper747pa2 3 года назад
very good video!! - thank you for wrapping the season up. I will watch this video again before the next season to refresh memories;-)
@mileslavers
@mileslavers 3 года назад
Bloody great stuff. Many thanks. From. Cornwall UK
@jamesaspinall9248
@jamesaspinall9248 3 года назад
One thing that I wish they had explained more was the attack on the Martian Parliament. How big was the attack? Were many if any killed? Not having read the book, is the only thing so far that left me a bit wondering about that event.
@justgivemethetruth
@justgivemethetruth 3 года назад
Same with that last battle at the ring-gate. Series writers are getting lazy these days. They just assume people will get on line and figure it out or make something up, so they don't even try. I guess that is the Ridley Scott:Alien strategy? ;-)
@marvinwindsor5896
@marvinwindsor5896 3 года назад
Yeah, almost no coverage of the attack on Mars or the scope of the disaster on earth. When they all met up on Luna in the bar and all were dressed nice and drinking in a relaxed atmosphere, I wondered what about Earth? Is the planet dying? Is it an extinction event? If so, where will their food come from? And not having read the books, the battle scenes are difficult to follow. For one thing, the battle scenes are quick and the ships look somewhat similar. It's dark like the GOT attack by the Night King's dead army. I'll have to read book 6 so I have a better idea what's going on next season.
@296jacqi
@296jacqi 3 года назад
I’m so excited for season 6. I can’t put it into words. The show took the turn back out through the ring that I wanted it to. I don’t even want to speculate TOO much because I like surprises. (A little speculation is fun, though) 😉
@PetePeppers1
@PetePeppers1 3 года назад
Questions for season 6 video will be coming next.
@niraj_dave
@niraj_dave 3 года назад
@@PetePeppers1 how much of book's story telling changed in this season 5? it kinda looks like it pretty much stayed on track (from the way you describe it) barring some minor details.
@maiaemmett2399
@maiaemmett2399 3 года назад
@@niraj_dave Plenty of details are different, having read the book first I still had plenty of surprises but like previous seasons the show is pretty faithful to the broad strokes of the books while having a lot of difference in the details, sometimes huge details. Killing Alex off in season 5 was of course a very big departure to the books but that's influenced by Cas Anvar being fired for harassing women basically so I'm really excited to see how the handle that in season 6. We also got a lot less of James Holden being bored and investigating disappearing ships at Tycho before things start escalating but honestly that was probably for the better since that would have messed up the pacing of the show I think.
@niraj_dave
@niraj_dave 3 года назад
@@maiaemmett2399 wow..thanks..yeah and I figured Alex character was gonna be off based on what I had heard...so I guess his ending seems fitting in this context.
@manst8079
@manst8079 3 года назад
@@niraj_dave I think the biggest difference (beside everything about Drummer, she's been an amalgamation of characters since the start) is in the Alex/Bobbie story: instead of following rogue martian ships they had to save the martian prime minister from some free navy's ships (and then they saved Naomi, but Bobbie was surfing on a torpedo!).
@SWSadu
@SWSadu 2 года назад
Good job. Thanks.
@borntolose_livetowin
@borntolose_livetowin 3 года назад
it's a good show - after sitting through the first couple of episodes, the ride begins.
@carloblanco2165
@carloblanco2165 3 года назад
I honestly feel like Marcos would have succeeded had his opartive killed Holden instead of Fred in that scene. 2:36.
@Tate525
@Tate525 3 года назад
That would end the plot lmao
@mikerodrigues9822
@mikerodrigues9822 3 года назад
Why no kill both?
@weirdafters4007
@weirdafters4007 3 года назад
@@Tate525 why would it? the struggle against Marcos and with the protomolecule would go on.
@forasago
@forasago 2 года назад
@@mikerodrigues9822 Literally just plot armor, nothing else. It makes no sense for an assassin like that to stop shooting after the first target is down.
@DanBennett
@DanBennett 3 года назад
You do great!
@shonaschneider1800
@shonaschneider1800 3 года назад
👍🏼 weaving all the threads together, excellent synopsis. Since I have been reading books 5-7 while watching season 5, my memories of both mix and mingle. But that last scene of the alien sky monster structure! Woah!
@Cam-sl8ve
@Cam-sl8ve 3 года назад
Whatever Alex's actor did, they've handled it poorly. It was totally immersion breaking to see how the character died and how that was interpreted by the others. Totally weird. They should've praised the character for what he did, and they could've done that without praising the actor.
@BryantHayward67
@BryantHayward67 3 года назад
I'm thinking that by the time the information came out they may have already completed the shooting for all episodes, and changing the story required re-filming. Concluding the episode the way they did may have required minor writing of the script and re-filming only a small amount. I have no idea how it was actually handled, and have not been able to find out details, but that seems to explain everything in the most logical way possible. Also, I have not read the books, so not at all sure if this subject was covered in the books. Might be interesting to find that out as well... But ya, it did make for an odd and seemingly fractured ending...
@pinkyfull
@pinkyfull 3 года назад
@@BryantHayward67 not to spoil anything but he is alive in the books for longer.
@jorgepeterbarton
@jorgepeterbarton 2 года назад
@@BryantHayward67 well here is a better way: maybe have the Razorback destroyed so its obvious and we dont have a still frame shot cobbled together. If you see a ship destroyed from outside you know, but if someone is sitting there staring with someone calling their name you kind of dont.
@stcredzero
@stcredzero 3 года назад
With the Chetzmoka spinning/spiralling, the centrifugal force should have thrown her away from the ship, not ended up in the middle of the spiral. We see the helmet roll towards the airlock, so that direction is outwards. Also, the only way Naomi could have ended up in the middle of the spiral would have been for her to jump towards the center, counteracting the centrifugal G force. That would not have been enough to cause a "high G burn" for the Screaming Firehawk to dock.
@chrisdonaldson103
@chrisdonaldson103 3 года назад
Yeah, trying to figure that stuff out kind of threw me for a loop too. I totally stopped thinking about it when Bobbys voice was being transferred through Naomis helmet. Good catch, I will try and figure it out better when I watch it again.
@neildoerdan2298
@neildoerdan2298 3 года назад
The way I imagined it was that when she jumped out of the ship it was only her inertial force moving her though space (so in theory she would continue in that direction for ever - or until she hit something or gravitational force). But when she jumped out of the ship due to the spin the ship was in, rather than the ship rotating, it was spinning along a line like a spin ball with the rod being down the middle of the coarse the ship was heading and the ship flying around that rod with the door always facing towards the rod (middle). Similar to how the moon orbits the earth, with one side always facing the earth. Naomi would have eventually continued past the other orbit side of the ship (at risk of being hit by the ship again) and then would have been outside the orbit of the ship. But at this stage she would have been dead. (due to running out of O)
@artboymoy
@artboymoy 3 года назад
I have some questionable physics problems with this as well, like Bobbie said it was a short burst, and that meant to me that it stopped, but for the ship to continue in a spiral, you'd still need that thruster to be firing, right? I mean, after the inital burst once it's gone the drive would just push the ship in the forward direction.
@ZakaqerE
@ZakaqerE 3 года назад
@@artboymoy The main drive never stopped firing.
@zariumsheridan3488
@zariumsheridan3488 3 года назад
Yeah, good catch. Also the maneuvering thruster is nothing compared to the main drive, so the curve would be very shallow even if the thruster was firing continuously until it runs out of propellant. Furthermore, its trajectory would not be a spring-like cylindrical spiral, it would be an expanding one, since the ship is being accelerated by the main drive.
@rev68
@rev68 3 года назад
Good stuff. I haven't read the books yet, so this helped a bunch.
@spiritofplace_1969
@spiritofplace_1969 3 года назад
Just watched the final episode of season 5, blown away. Greatest Sci-Fi series ever. Thank you for the summary! 🚀
@Vgallo
@Vgallo 3 года назад
Phillip didn’t just kidnap her, he saved Naomi’s life by kidnapping her.
@Nemeczekes
@Nemeczekes 3 года назад
I have Mass Effect series flashbacks watching S5.
@Kiwomens
@Kiwomens 3 года назад
Same here. Many ME vibes, actually, and I love it.
@johnP0908
@johnP0908 3 года назад
that's why I loved this show, this is as close as it can get.
@kylelowe993
@kylelowe993 3 года назад
This episode just kept giving. I got far too excited when they officially mentioned Admiral Duarte! And that end scene with the ship going ‘Dutchman’, what a great send off for S5!
@wordseater
@wordseater 3 года назад
Great video, as always. :-)
@FabricateFrog
@FabricateFrog 3 года назад
Theyre never gonna find a better pilot than Alex :/ so shitty feelsbad
@lanycera
@lanycera 3 года назад
They might. I trust the writers, they have done an awesome job so far!
@debfiebelkorn7963
@debfiebelkorn7963 3 года назад
Peaches is a good pilot.
@nfldend501
@nfldend501 3 года назад
Amos at the end was funny as shit with Holden to get peaches on the ship. Did they show the Martian ship going Dutchman in the finale?
@eyesofstatic9641
@eyesofstatic9641 3 года назад
I loved that part of Amos bringing Peaches in lol That little talk with Holden as he brought her on was great
@ebeirne1
@ebeirne1 3 года назад
Great summary...
@neilwilson5785
@neilwilson5785 3 года назад
Woah, nice summary. There was a lot happening, and I didn't get all of it. The blue moving through that that construct was one of those.
@conrad9698
@conrad9698 3 года назад
I’m pissed that the killed off Alex!!! Damn
@jsalinasbarros
@jsalinasbarros 3 года назад
Alex's death on the show came after the actor who played him was fired after a series of sexual misconduct allegations against him emerged in summer 2020.
@dlschgo
@dlschgo 3 года назад
@@jsalinasbarros Unsubstantiated. He was flirting, basically. But cancel culture doesn't care about facts. F Amazon for bending the knee and the showrunners for complying.
@embersaffron5522
@embersaffron5522 3 года назад
@@dlschgo imagine saying this sentence unironically
@dlschgo
@dlschgo 3 года назад
Hey, good lookiing. What'cha got cooking? Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
@hydrochloricacid2146
@hydrochloricacid2146 3 года назад
@@dlschgo yeah no, that's not how that works. First off, you don't get MULTIPLE allegations like that set against you "just because you flirted a bit". It's pretty clear there was more than that involved; after all we're talking about women here, and it's not like this whole "famous actor takes advantage of fan base" skit before. Second of all, Amazon is a private company. They can do what they want. When one of your employees becomes more trouble than he's worth (mainly in terms of bad PR), you're justified in letting them go, especially when we're talking about a job that involves being in the spotlight.
@bailieunderwood44
@bailieunderwood44 3 года назад
Loved the final season until Alex was killed, that left me feeling like a real salty Samual. As far as I know Alex wasn't killed that way or at all in the book and the only reason they did it was because of certain sexual assault 'allegations' which had no evidence or grounds against Alex's actor. One of the writers say it was done to level the playing field and create more tension but I think that is bs. Hated that but overall it was great.
@89DerChristian
@89DerChristian 3 года назад
There is tons of evidence if you care to do just the slightest bit of research...
@disturbed0insane
@disturbed0insane 3 года назад
@@89DerChristian There are no proofs. If there are, why hasn't be been prosecuted yet?
@mattng4707
@mattng4707 3 года назад
Great summery great vid
@LarsMacD
@LarsMacD 3 года назад
Interesting stuff. I never read the books. Just came in to The Expanse a year or so back. Now is time to go back and read the whole thing before Season 6 drops, I reckon.
@LuigiL75
@LuigiL75 3 года назад
The audiobooks are well done!
@fireworks_music
@fireworks_music 3 года назад
I didn't think any show could bypass the peak moments of the rebooted Battlestar Galactica, but sure enough this series has done so consistently. It helps when you have a stellar series of books to base it on plus the original writers running the writers' room.
@YD-jw6hw
@YD-jw6hw 3 года назад
Seems like the Roci needs a Martian now. Maybe Bobbie joins the Roci? We don't know any other Martians enough to trust them. But Bobbie probably has a role in book 6 with Avasarala. Bull could fill in the Alex/pilot role, but that makes the Roci crew 3 Earthers and 1 Belter. Not sure if Peaches also joins the Roci crew, but she's another Earther. I've only read through book 5. Starting book 6 now that season 5 is over.
@zariumsheridan3488
@zariumsheridan3488 3 года назад
They need a Martian diversity hire? :D
@albertl6286
@albertl6286 3 года назад
Soooo bc of this I picked up book 5 lol. Can’t wait to see why you have together for your next video
@Craig-xw9jq
@Craig-xw9jq 3 года назад
Pete - have to say i like your recaps
@CepheusTalks
@CepheusTalks 3 года назад
they got etch-a-sketched out of existence.... wait does anyone even remember what an Etch A Sketch even is?
@julie8100
@julie8100 3 года назад
Sure do
@jaystrickland4151
@jaystrickland4151 3 года назад
It was a great ending. Though the stroke was written in because they had to fire the actor playing Alex.
@cjkush5384
@cjkush5384 3 года назад
Why?
@jaystrickland4151
@jaystrickland4151 3 года назад
@@cjkush5384 Sexual harassment and sexual assault allegations surfaced.
@TheLukieBoi1
@TheLukieBoi1 3 года назад
@@jaystrickland4151 Yes, 'Allegations'.
@christinepompeo4324
@christinepompeo4324 2 года назад
Great summary! Was worried I'd have to re-watch the whole series before Season 6 (although I still might)
@PetePeppers1
@PetePeppers1 2 года назад
Thanks. I put this out last week to fill in some of the blanks for people who won't have time for a re-watch ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1zSdCiRxsRA.html
@IDKman555
@IDKman555 3 года назад
The final was a great episode epic and emotional, can't wait for more Amos in the next season!
@amata415
@amata415 3 года назад
Naomi been through some shit! Then Alex dies, that sux.
@beetlejuulz
@beetlejuulz 3 года назад
Apparently the actor has been fired
@DNB_connoisseur
@DNB_connoisseur 3 года назад
Looking forward to season 6 and 7 when James Holden tries to save humanity from the Unknown Aggressors
@Jason-gt2kx
@Jason-gt2kx 3 года назад
I would like to see vids of you reading the internal monologues of character in different scenes. I know this is more going on in the books that the series can't or didn't include.
@uros.u.novakovic
@uros.u.novakovic 3 года назад
As a person who has not read the books, everything in the show was perfectly clear except the Barkeith ending. I did not understand that it got "destroyed" or it disappeared. My understanding was that the entities we saw are just there passing through everything as ghosts but the people on board do not see them. Holden once said that he could "feel" them when he passes through the ring so I assumed this is what happens all the time when you pass through, those entities pass through everyone and Holden felt that while others do not.
@thecocktailian2091
@thecocktailian2091 3 года назад
Yeah, thats the reason I came to this video, to have the ship bit explained. I didn't conclude they were dead ,I didn't conclude anything, confusing.
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