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The Fall and Rise of The Row 

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The Row has made huge waves in the industry in recent years, slowly but surely rising in respect from industry professionals before having an explosion of exposure in 2023. But it hasn't always been smooth sailing and it seems that despite Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen using their celebrity in novel ways, the company has been rocky for longer than one might expect
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@TheOlliverr
@TheOlliverr 4 месяца назад
in terms of salaries related to their stockists. As an ex Brand Manager for The ROW, the majority of stockists are whole sale. Our salaries were paid 20-50% by TR, the remaining by the department store. some locations had no brand manager / specialist at all and will rely on generic sales associates to sell. One of the best brands to work for however! they are so involved.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Thats fascinating thank you, I assume this is in the US?
@raeyism
@raeyism 4 месяца назад
Ugh it's so lovely when brands' core are involved. Ty for sharing!!
@Miriam-pn7jy
@Miriam-pn7jy 2 месяца назад
Oliver Hi...Where have you been?
@gurlbye9942
@gurlbye9942 4 месяца назад
Personally, what i think was the most notable thing that sets The Row apart over every other celebrity brand, and a huge factor to it's success, was that the twins genuinely made an effort to avoid the spotlight following the release of the brand. The twins were always known to be private but they became even more elusive and avoided doing any more tv interviews and red carpet appearances that wasn't the CFDA or anything to do with fashion. They basically tried to disappear into obscurity. I believe this was their attempt into being taken seriously as designers and be forgotten as celebrities. One point you made in the video that I don't agree with was, if I'm not mistaken, you believe the initial customer base of the brand were fans of the twins. I believe the opposite. The first customers of The Row were wealthy women who had no idea who were behind the brand and just saw an impeccably constructed cashmere coat. There used to be a lot of shock when people found out that this understated luxury brand that has insane quality and pricing to match were ran by the the Olsen twins. One last thing, The Row cultivated a cult following not only because, as you mentioned, they were basically doing what Phoebe Philo was known for, but because The Row was even more radical than Phoebe. The designs made available on retail were even more simple, more basic, made of higher materials, were more expensive, understated and unknown to the masses. Every item they had was made of cashmere, vicuña, silk, the most supple leather, etc. I always thought of The Row as a cross between Phoebe Philo and Loro Piana.
@kiawas1
@kiawas1 4 месяца назад
Well said❤
@raeyism
@raeyism 4 месяца назад
This is such a brilliant perspective. The way the twins disappeared from the spotlight will forever not fascinate me.
@gurlbye9942
@gurlbye9942 4 месяца назад
@@raeyism thank you ladies! I used to follow what the twins were up to ever since before the launch of The Row. I was a daily reader of fashion blogs back in the late 2000s to early 2010s which documented the twins’ journey and their business ventures very well. I mean who can forget The Row’s first croc backpacks in both $40K and $55k versions that the twins said were sold out. And it was back in 2012, which means they were more expensive than Hermes. lol
@barbaraschubert9889
@barbaraschubert9889 4 месяца назад
Well said
@Jayxroberts
@Jayxroberts 4 месяца назад
You’re absolutely right. People who’ve I met who buy TR, don’t know who the designers are. They just love the beautifully constructed items.
@userx12342
@userx12342 4 месяца назад
it's time people started valuing quality > trends
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
It's okay to have a mix of both if one doesnt approach trends or clothing in general as disposable. Who said a trend had to end? One can continue to wear it after the initial buzz is gone
@scpatl4now
@scpatl4now 4 месяца назад
If you contrast this with other "celebrity" brands, the thing I come away with that sets them apart is quality. Many celebrity brands really don't seem to value a well made quality product as much as a gimmick or something briefly of quality only to end up cheaply made. I think if you made a quality product that people want to buy...you will eventually be successful, and more important...you will keep them as customers. That is a lesson I don't think many brands take to heart
@scpatl4now
@scpatl4now 4 месяца назад
@@wills-ol3so I don't find it silly at all, especially if you have watched the other videos where it is explained quite nicely how the downfall of many celebrity brands was their lack of quality and just trying to go forward on their name only. It almost never works out well for them. Quality is not based on the factory. It is a conscious DECISION made by those at the top. Rhianna's brand made a decision to start producing lower quality products which in then turned off many of her better customers. When you lose people that way, they seldom come back. Also, of course there are many reasons things are a hit or a miss. I would not have the time to go through them all. I just chose a "pithy" example to focus on.
@ciaociara
@ciaociara 4 месяца назад
i wouldn’t really call her a celeb, but your point reminds me of jaclyn hill closing all her brands because, in my opinion, she didn’t actually care about high quality but wanted the money attached to her name - now her name is tarnished in a lot of people’s eyes.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
I think you're both right tbh. Quality is a great way of making long term customers. However, thats in relation to everything else the brand offers. Price point, public perception, celebrity endorsement etc. Quality isn't a tangible tick box in that way as so many products have different levels of quality to them. It's very complicated to try to get in a comment, but effectively, they put their eggs in the quality basket and it worked for them. Other brands, like Louis Vuitton, put their eggs in the branding basket and it's worked for them, Coach in the price point basket and its working for them; its just one of many possibly winning strategies they chose, but its always in relation to everything else they do, which is why for a celebrity brand it was smart to focus on quality bcs celeb brands do usually have such a bad reputation
@Gay-Icon
@Gay-Icon 4 месяца назад
​@@wills-ol3somy lord, you are rude.
@emmanuellebeki
@emmanuellebeki 4 месяца назад
One thing I note from your videos is that slow growth but steady growth work better for long term result
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Sustainable growth is the way to go for sure
@13realmusic
@13realmusic 4 месяца назад
It blows my mind how many huge companies everyone knows about are operating under debt and have never turned a profit. Companies like Uber, Lyft, Netflix even are all low key not profitable for their investors. I think it’s important to point this out often since entrepreneurs like to paint themselves as self made millionaires but in reality many are just smart at spending other people’s money and the best thing they can hope for is to sell their ownership for a big chunk of change before their creditors catch up to their game.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Exactly yeah
@gingerwingerful
@gingerwingerful 4 месяца назад
Wow very eye-opening thank you so much for stating that you have opened my eyes
@AirQuotes
@AirQuotes 4 месяца назад
Yep, this is very true. There is also a benefit to NOT turning a profit, especially in the early years. Many companies do this on purpose for tax reasons
@Ideo7Z
@Ideo7Z 4 месяца назад
​@@AirQuotesThat was Amazon's playbook for the first decade and a half of its life.
@sharon-bp9pk
@sharon-bp9pk 4 месяца назад
Finally! So glad to see this video! I have so much respect for the Olsens for how they navigated their careers and personal lives, and how their work ethic and relationship drove them to success.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Its such an interesting story, right?
@Thisath100
@Thisath100 4 месяца назад
This is perfectly timed. I saw this Twitter thread the other day which somewhat contextualised the brand as something created to explore the twins' true passion for fashion design. Interesting to now see that they aren't even the main designers at The Row anymore! Thanks for all the detailed research, I really love how you dug into the business structure behind the brand - maybe the twins' real genius is in business,, too?!
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
I think perhaps their talent is bringing people together, the busienss people to run it and the designers to design. Although with the frankly ridiculous losses before they made a profit, its hard to tell 🤷 Theres a reason why every brand has a founders story though, and its exactly for that Twitter thread. It tells the consumer what they want them to believe about the brand. Its marketing, but one thats so very much wanted by the consumer to contextualise their purchases or admiration for a brand
@mariar.8126
@mariar.8126 4 месяца назад
Elizabeth & James was discontinued in 2018 I think, so it's a shame that you didn't talk about the reasons behind that decision and how it might have changed the trajectory of their business model. Overall, a great video demystifying the myth of the Row's humble beginnings
@larissafeliciano1113
@larissafeliciano1113 4 месяца назад
What was the reason for the closure?
@songsenkei
@songsenkei 4 месяца назад
Agree, this info should have been shared in The Fall portion of the video.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Its my understanding that it didn't really 'close' it just got transformed into a licensed brand, which makes sense for what it was. But, I saw on reddit that theres confusion over whether Kohls stopped the license during the pandemic. Honestly, maybe it deserves its own video
@AirQuotes
@AirQuotes 4 месяца назад
I knew most of this, especially the early stuff, as i was working in fashion around this time. And have now moved into business. They never do things im half measures. From the way they set up their contracts and production companies as children. They have a great head for business it's truly the most impressive thing about them imo. What a really well-done video as usual
@britneydaniels6294
@britneydaniels6294 4 месяца назад
Wow! I really fell for the “it all started with the perfect t shirt” bit. I had no idea they had all these diffusion brands!!! I learned so much about The Row. Ty❤
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
I never believed the t-shirt bit tbh, but I didnt realise just how well it was set up
@blackathena1565
@blackathena1565 4 месяца назад
I remember when The Row started - they did really well quickly moving away from mimicking MK & A personal style to simplicity. I also was familiar with Elizabeth and James from Sephora - I had no idea they were a brand outside of fragrance! But I wish you covered what happened since they are no longer stocked. TBH the difference I see between The Row and VB is the ruthless emphasis on quality - deserved or not. VB puts her vision at the forefront of her brand vision but who knows what's happening the the atelier of The Row other than whatever or whoever is behind the curtain will put out a consistently quality product. It's not my vibe but I don't question that it's well made.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
The video really wasnt about E&J, thats why I didnt include their story, but it seems they had wuite the following, maybe Ill have to do a video on them in the future And I agree with your thoughts on the differences between TR and VB
@heisthorn
@heisthorn 4 месяца назад
What an excellently researched video this is. The Row is truly a brand to follow and the Olsen twins are living testaments to the phrase "working in silence and letting success make the noise". I especially love it when they dress their sister Lizzie for her rare red carpets. Having said all that, I still am patiently waiting for your Céline video. The chic leather-RTW they put out is a personal fave and I really want to know more about them. I discovered them through BLACKPINK's Lisa which was groundbreaking because I've never heard of them here in the Asian market before they signed her up. Happy new year, by the way! I'm such a big fan of your channel.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Happy new year! Im glad you liked the video but I think Celine will be a while now tbh, Ive just got so many brands on the list that its hard to choose. Saying that Im really happy with this video on The Row, theyre such an interesting brand, and I agree about when they dress Lizzie
@amsinthemitten
@amsinthemitten 4 месяца назад
Your content is so educational and entertaining! Thanks.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Glad you enjoy it!
@markjohnson2257
@markjohnson2257 4 месяца назад
Wonderful video as always. I remember seeing their 1st collection at Barneys. I didn't know it was by the Olsen Twins. It was a small capsule collection of luxurious basics. The stretch leather leggings, classic blazer, classic dress, silk camisole, etc. Initially l thought it was odd but then felt it was very smart to have very well made basics that women would want. The Row reminds me of the issues that Barneys had. The Row/Barneys did great in NYC and Los Angeles where you have an abundance of affluent fashion insiders. It took a while for it to be well known elsewhere. I am glad they are more well known. They should come out with and Artisanal fragrance line similar to Tom Ford to generate more income to support their main line.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Omg you saw it?? Did you take pictures? Id love to see that. I agree that I think their next best step is fragrance, would work so well for their customers that cant afford clothing or bags on a regular basis, and they certainly have an abundance of those customers. And I agree that a perfume at a Tom Ford level would work phenomenally well for then
@markjohnson2257
@markjohnson2257 4 месяца назад
Sorry. I meant to reply earlier. No l don't have any photos,etc. The very small collection of clothes were on 1 rack. They were what was featured in that short promo film in your video. It reminded me of Donna Karan because at the time she had a line of basics. I think it was called Donna Karan Signature. It was merchandised with the mainline.. It was slightly lower in price than the mainline but way more expensive than DKNY. Just great luxurious basics. People tended to pay full price for basics and buy the seasonal fashion pieces on sale. Also - the very 1st Fashion's Night out was WILD. There were free drinks, food, parties, music, and celebrities all over Manhattan. All the stores and luxury brands tried to see who could be the most fabulous. I remember they were playing musical chairs next to luxury brands at Barney's. I believe the Olsen Twins were personally serving drinks. I first saw the clothes before Fashion Night out so it must have been their 1st collection. Unfortunately most stores did not make a profit during FNO so it was much smaller the next year. Chanel was very smart the 1st year. They had 3 exclusive Khaki themed nail polishes for $35 each. They did very well because they offered a product that had the glamor of Chanel but at a price point that was attainable. Serious shoppers were not out here that night trying to buy a $20k Chanel outfit. I was running all over the city and finally ended up at Stella McCartney in the meatpacking district where the special guests were Kate Hudson and model Angela Lindvall. It was a fun night.
@csallenback100
@csallenback100 4 месяца назад
You should do a retailing history series. After seeing the screenshot recipes from the Barneys bankruptcy I am super interested in the timeline and logistics of this and many other great or past pillars in the fashion/retail space
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
I extremely want to do more histories of retailers, that’s really my area of interest in general, but because of the algorithm is difficult to know exactly when to do that. Maybe I should just go for it and see
@alexandrazavyalova4908
@alexandrazavyalova4908 4 месяца назад
Very insightful video, thank you!!
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Glad it was helpful!
@richradka
@richradka 4 месяца назад
Great video and wonderful channel to clearly explain fashion to someone who's outside the industry, isn't a target consumer of fashion, but finds the artistry of the product inspiring and the brand management fascinating.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Im so glad you enjoyed it then 🙌
@ClaireMonica-Art
@ClaireMonica-Art 4 месяца назад
Another great video! I’ve always loved the rise and fall of diffusion lines - maybe that subject is a good one to get into
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
I should do one for Elizabeth and James tbh
@Ggnmgjhg
@Ggnmgjhg 16 дней назад
Your videos are so well done! In a different design field, I learned a lot
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 15 дней назад
Thank you so much 🥰
@limpflute3559
@limpflute3559 4 месяца назад
NEW UNDERSTITCH VIDEO YASSSS This gonna be my video to eat to for tmrw 😍
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
You ate lunch to me? Thats such a lovely thing to hear! I always love a good video with lunch 🥰
@brssxcm
@brssxcm 4 месяца назад
Great video as always. It's also important to point out that they have a few star products now like the Half Moon and Margaux bags, which are both, honestly, of great quality.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Yeah their bags seem to be doing quite well
@dva5610
@dva5610 4 месяца назад
Loved that in their FT interview they quietly threw shade at Gabriella Hearst for poaching some of their staff and still not finding success.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
💀
@daniellagurtner7863
@daniellagurtner7863 4 месяца назад
thank you for you amazing work and research
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Im so glad you enjoyed it 🤍
@zethuzulu7202
@zethuzulu7202 4 месяца назад
This is the one I’ve been waiting for! I subscribed to this channel (and the beauty one) last month and I’m nearly done watching all the videos. Thank you for the great videos!
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Then I hope it lived up to expectation!
@NeelamAhooja
@NeelamAhooja 4 месяца назад
Thank you for this extremely thorough review of the brand’s history. I’ve been collecting The Row for a long time but some of this information was new to me. I’m of an older gen so the draw isn’t the designers’ status but rather their impeccable style choices and attention to detail. They’re still, in my humble opinion, the only one in this category of minimalism that creates classic pieces but with an edge. It’s not like some of the other luxury lines that can feel mature when styled head to toe. I hope their renewed success leads to financial viability - both for them and for The Row lovers like me. 🖤
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Do you have any pieces with the small chain in the back instead of a label?
@NeelamAhooja
@NeelamAhooja 4 месяца назад
@@understitchYT I used to have three of them - two oversized jersey tunics and one long sheer one with side slits. Sold those pieces a while back. I should have kept one just for the sake of having that label (as a collector I should know better). I sell the items I’m not wearing - I move things out of my closet regularly.
@wendy_lynn
@wendy_lynn 4 месяца назад
Absolutely love your content.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Thank you so much 🙌
@josephchan4198
@josephchan4198 4 месяца назад
Great story and mention quality to keep customers coming back.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Glad you enjoyed 🙌
@welcomemoyo92
@welcomemoyo92 4 месяца назад
Quality work! Thank you.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Thank you 🥰
@user-nw4pw7kx9c
@user-nw4pw7kx9c 4 месяца назад
Your content is beyond....... love ❤
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Thank you so much 😀
@markbieraugel8217
@markbieraugel8217 4 месяца назад
It is so interesting that the twins used the LVMH model of luxury loss leader, brand burnisher The Row to juice up their other cheaper lines. Amazing research and so good to know the real story and not the creator founder startup myths.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Tbf LVMH definitely didnt invent the loss leader idea, but they certainly popularised it for luxury, thats why I refer to it as the LVMH model 😅
@markbieraugel8217
@markbieraugel8217 4 месяца назад
Yes, a loss leader is a old concept in retail, but it didn't seem to be used in luxury until LVMH. Thanks for your smart thinking in this area. @@understitchYT
@chinnyb4942
@chinnyb4942 3 месяца назад
This might be my new favorite channel.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 3 месяца назад
You have good taste
@DamienHurts
@DamienHurts 4 месяца назад
My favourite fashion channel reporting on The Row? Such a good video. But I was expecting you to mention the 55,000 dollars backpack studded with pills (a collab with Damien Hirst) controversy around 2012. That's when I first took notice of the brand. I remember it being talked about alot. How it is supposedly glamourised drug taking. I personally thought the bag was ugly and tacky, but after looking at their collections, I ultimately loved and still love their fashion line. Love them too.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
You know I didnt even hear about that, I must have just missed it at the time
@mjjloverdg
@mjjloverdg 4 месяца назад
I remember that
@indoora
@indoora 4 месяца назад
When you stated you know how to sew it made me so happy. You are a true talent.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Thank you, I love sewing. I wouldnt say Im especially good, but Ive been sewing since I was 8 so at least two decades 😅
@user-np6gw4qv6o
@user-np6gw4qv6o 4 месяца назад
Thank you for your research on this brand. I only knew that the brand was owned by the twins, but you gave a lot of information. I didn't realize the menswear line was short lived. I remember owning a sweater from the brand, very simple, and the only branding on it was a tiny metal looped tag that was sewn at the back of the neck (where was tags are sewn). That eventually disappeared after the a couple dry cleaning trips. Anyway, can't actually remember how I purchased it, I know it was online because I was stationed in Kuwait at the time. It was a great sweater, wish I still had it. Oh well.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
The small gold chains! Thats how they used to tag their clothes, I just couldnt figure a way to add it in casually to the video (or did I in the end? I kept coming back to it) and yes about the menswear line! Im surprised it closed and opened so many times 💀
@aaronjanlistanco
@aaronjanlistanco 4 месяца назад
YESSSS!!!... thank you @understitch 😘
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
AARON!!
@aaronjanlistanco
@aaronjanlistanco 4 месяца назад
@@understitchYT 🥰😘🥳😍😁
@214dior
@214dior 4 месяца назад
First of all, let me say thank you for all that you do with informing us on this very important information in the past industry and to the research that you do to build your contact very impressive. I have a request. I didn’t see where I could personally message you, but I wanted to ask you can you please do a video on Kanye West DW line and how that fostered into His role in the fashion industry today and what happened to the original two collections that were produced
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
I am actually really interested in yhis and in Pastelle. I have no idea what really happened so I just want to research it until Im blue in the face
@JossyFoop
@JossyFoop 4 месяца назад
As a potential customer, the row just doesn’t sell enough accessories to cover the costs of their garments. Understanding the LVMH model, it’s unfathomable to me how €460 beanies and €1000 jeans is financially viable. It’s like, I just bought a pair of €1,150 pants from Helmut Lang, a business which has famously been struggling for recent years, and is now making loungewear to cover their costs. If a brand of that stature has to resort to making €500 sweatpants, how is The Row surviving - diffusion lines no one has ever heard of included.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
I think if it wasnt backed by a huge celebrity duo, it would be rather questionable, heck, even with their money it raises eyebrows as to how it had continued, or why it had continued for so long
@JossyFoop
@JossyFoop 4 месяца назад
@@understitchYT coming in HOT! I guess suspicions their business model may be unprofitable is potentially naive. To take the quiet luxury view, maybe there’s a lot of quiet consumers. I just can’t buy the idea that a series of underground diffusion lines are bankrolling The Row. Especially considering their entertainment careers ended nearly two decades ago. It seems so financially irresponsible to fund a chronically indebted business with a wealth source no longer being in vast sums. Assuming they invested that money, it seems equally foolish to invest dividends and royalties in a business in the red.
@shttc900
@shttc900 4 месяца назад
I have this black wool and cashmere blend coat from Uniqlo and I always pretend it's the Row. I'm obsessed with this brand and with Mary Kate and Ashley because it's the epitome of quiet luxury.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
One day youll get an original and youll never buy a coat again; the ultimate goal
@shttc900
@shttc900 4 месяца назад
I look on eBay weekly, but perhaps that's rooted in false hope, haha. Someday it'll happen!@@understitchYT
@shttc900
@shttc900 4 месяца назад
p.s. I own a copy of that coffee table book they released ($2.00 from a library book sale!) and it's actually quite boring.
@Miriam-pn7jy
@Miriam-pn7jy 2 месяца назад
I see The Row perfume and skincare incoming! You heard it here first! 😉
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 2 месяца назад
I think it makes a lot of sense. Elizabeth and James (the Rows pseudo diffusion line) had a perfume and haircare, so I think its the next natural step
@slash364
@slash364 4 месяца назад
its a good day when understitch,
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
when understitch,
@hawksandsparrows
@hawksandsparrows 4 месяца назад
I thought it was known knowledge that they've been profitable for a while? The stores are routinely picked clean and the notoriety of the selling/popularity with genuine "old money" hyper-wealthy clientele is an observable fact for people (actually) operating in the industry (wonderful video/content regardless)
@jackanapes1492
@jackanapes1492 4 месяца назад
Selling out clothing doesn’t mean profitable. As Understitch mentions often, clothing lines often lose money. It’s why brands put out accessories, as that is where profits are gained.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
exactly, sales doesn't always mean profits. It ridiculously hard to make profits in fashion actually, thats why so many expand into cosmetics
@segourneysavery5126
@segourneysavery5126 4 месяца назад
My favorite trousers are Elizabeth and James… hope to add a few items from The Row to my wardrobe soon 👌🏽
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
I didn't realise E+J had so much love honestly, but Im so glad to see it, I definitely need to do a video on them
@emilyh7982
@emilyh7982 4 месяца назад
I read influence as a teenager, and it was a lot of interviews of mostly fashion designers, and each other, along with aesthetic images. I think they must have mentioned the row?? but I think it was very very quick- which was smart because it created, like their privacy as celebs in general, a desire to know more due to its mystery and inaccessibility. I ended up associating them with the incredible fashion icons they interviewed- and felt they must have an eye for fashion and good taste to have such conversations and connections. it felt mature at the time .. I really felt like I grew up with them since childhood and I ate this book up as a teen- I haven’t read it in over a decade and I eventually cut it up for collages, but it was very influential(hah) for me.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Hmmmm interesting. I wonder if that was the angle they were going for. Trying to position themselves as fashion people, kind of in a similar way to how Rihanna did with wearing smaller designers
@TiamattheDestroyerofWorlds
@TiamattheDestroyerofWorlds 4 месяца назад
Excellent and unusual vid.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Thank you 🙌
@Notyagrandmasknits
@Notyagrandmasknits 4 месяца назад
I know that this brand is fairly new, but I would love if you did a video on area. It’s very interesting and I would love to learn more about how they rose so fast
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Oh yeah! Super interesting brand
@eggsinhell1532
@eggsinhell1532 3 месяца назад
At the end of the day, their pieces are fucking incredible in terms of quality materials and tailoring. I’m happy to fork over money for subtly luxe staple pieces that will age well.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 3 месяца назад
Longevity over desirability
@briannab2069
@briannab2069 4 месяца назад
Your voice is so soothing. It reminds me of Mel in Melbourne
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
This comment reminds me of back in the 90s/2000s when we would go to America and everyone thought we were australian (Love Australia)
@khair101
@khair101 4 месяца назад
Quiet luxury is trending right now and that is helping their brand grow.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Oh most definitely, I think I discussed this in my Phoebe Philo video
@katestimac4210
@katestimac4210 4 месяца назад
They have been working since before they could walk or speak. If they want to invest the money they've made into a fashion line, I'd say they have every right. The pushback from other designers feels a little unfair. What else did they make all that money for if not to invest it into something they love? And one more thing I think that's worth noting: they became billionaires because they produced, starred, and DISTRIBUTED all of their films themselves vis-a-vis a straight to video model. They weren't making their money through a deal with outside studios (like other child actors) back then. I don't see why they would go through traditional channels in launching their fashion line, either. They were the bosses then. They are the bosses now.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
They were incredibly fortunate to have the people around them that they did. They made phenomenal decisions for them before they were old enough to understand. But what I respect is that they continued to learn what had been done and run it themselves
@katestimac4210
@katestimac4210 4 месяца назад
@@understitchYT they bought out their manager that incorporated Dual Star for them the second they turned 18, fulfilled one contractual obligation for a movie (New York Minute), and pivoted to fashion. I think that was always their plan.
@jewelminor8313
@jewelminor8313 4 месяца назад
I truly appreciate the TRUTHFULNESS in every video that is Revealed 🤩
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Im so glad 🥰
@natashacutmore7005
@natashacutmore7005 3 месяца назад
Customers falling into the younger end of their target age group may not remember the Olsen twins for their TV and movie fame. I think the quality of the garments and the consistent aesthetic are more important to the brand's ongoing success than the celebrity status of its founders. Personally, I really hope it continues to be successful.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 3 месяца назад
for sure, like. I do not know any of their movies whatsoever, I just know them. for being famous. But then I wasnt the inital target audience 😅
@cozygirlfriend
@cozygirlfriend 4 месяца назад
I have the Mary Kate and Ashley influenced book, I found it at a used book store for $1
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Nooooo was it good?
@printsphinx257
@printsphinx257 4 месяца назад
Amazing! Could you do Samuel Ross founder of A-Cold-Wall?
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
I nearly did a-cold-wall so many times and it just kept getting bumped bcs we havent have any new news for a while
@printsphinx257
@printsphinx257 4 месяца назад
Understandable! I believe he has moved production to Milan resigned as a director@@understitchYT
@phil24111
@phil24111 4 месяца назад
i think Zadig would be an intresting brand to explore
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Oh yeah for sure
@thejussabu3185
@thejussabu3185 4 месяца назад
Can u pls do a video on comme des garcons and rei kawakubo ?
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Oh I need to, but itll take such a long time that I want to do it well
@Zmiester09
@Zmiester09 4 месяца назад
I love The Row. They also put out GREAT playlists on Spotify.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
That have a playlist??
@jeneng5795
@jeneng5795 4 месяца назад
​@@understitchYTmonthly playlists. The twins curate it themselves
@fannykeith
@fannykeith 4 месяца назад
Not sure if this is the right approach to think of the brand, but given their seemingly consistently growing revenues, I can see why they were comfortable with losses as their valuation must have been growing as well. This was during a period of cheap money too, and when the cheap money era ended they truly exploded as quiet luxury started to trend.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Yes exactly. Is it really a loss if the business is worth the difference?
@BittersweetMayhem
@BittersweetMayhem 4 месяца назад
Where can i find info on marine serre? It seems to appear in a lot of music videos but is it actually a well known luxury brand?
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
I hace a video on MS already 🥰 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GKvmvwifGWY.htmlsi=JI-JLzWiMwACLTEF
@Contessa_Savannah
@Contessa_Savannah 4 месяца назад
As a side note: I credit Zoe Kravits as the celebrity endorsement of the brand. Her celebrity rose almost simultaneously as did the noteriaty of the brand to xennials and gen z. It's litterally all she wears and I believe her publicist worked out some sort of deal to with the The Row to make her a silent ambassador. And they chose the right person because she's not obvious like the Kardashians so it feels genuine. They don't seem like the kind of line to do that but desperate times call for desperate measures.
@aaronjanlistanco
@aaronjanlistanco 4 месяца назад
Elizabeth Olsen (Mary-Kate Olsen & Ashley Olsen sister; known from her role Wanda Maximoff/Scarlet Witch from the MCU/Marvel Cinematic Universe) inspired from the defusion line of the ELIZABETH AND JAMES
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
yeah hahaha
@jourdainjardin846
@jourdainjardin846 4 месяца назад
I purchased the 2010 sunglasses from Selfridges and never wore them, they are somewhere in storage
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Oh nooo thats such a shame
@jackanapes1492
@jackanapes1492 4 месяца назад
I don’t feel this resurgence is a flash in the pan. The Olsens capitalized on luxury items during the recession. Remember their backpacks that were insanely expensive? I recall reading an article post Great Recession on how luxury brands did well during the recession, and there was a quote from one of the Olsens mentioning how historically this is always the case which is why they decided to release the backpacks (paraphrasing of course).
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Recessions tend to make the rich richer and the poor poorer 🤷
@daviroman1198
@daviroman1198 4 месяца назад
The row has been iconic since 2007 and many fast fashion of that era stole design and concepts such as the vests and that “one tshirt”
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Unfortunately that idea of ‘one product’ far far predates the row Im afraid
@renaezelmar6718
@renaezelmar6718 4 месяца назад
I'm curious how the business model works now since Elizabeth and James shut down in 2020? I cant imagine that those other little brands turn enough profit to keep things going. Wondering if that means that the Row can now stand on its own two feet? 🤔
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
I truly dont know. I know they have a bigger audience now and their bags are doing particularly well, but thats no guarantee of profit at all. Honestly I wonder if theyre revving up for a sale
@theghostofjosephinebaker1079
@theghostofjosephinebaker1079 4 месяца назад
love love love
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
thank you!!
@jockrlo04
@jockrlo04 4 месяца назад
They launched the first collection in a video of a girl walking around a house showing the versatility of the pieces
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Thats what they say for sure, but do you belivee that? Its a tshirt
@yassercastillo2607
@yassercastillo2607 4 месяца назад
I always got the vibe that they wanted the brand to stay small and gatekept from the ones who didnt know it. Never crossed my mind that it didnt make profits 😮
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Its a shame really, they seem to have quite the following
@natalierose1072
@natalierose1072 4 месяца назад
The Olsen twins were so effortlessly cool to middle school and teenage me.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Very much so, I enjoy their style a lot
@HendrixVital-lz4ld
@HendrixVital-lz4ld 4 месяца назад
That's what we called Industry Plants in the music business
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Its under their own company so a bit different but their money definitely got the brand to where it is
@priyalimbachiya272
@priyalimbachiya272 4 месяца назад
The only downside is that their internships are credit only like most of the industry
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Unfortunately thats very common and also unfortunately for smaller brands, necessary. Its the bigger brands who shouldnt be allowed to have them unpaid
@Kinglystateof
@Kinglystateof 4 месяца назад
You’re watching Understitch✨
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
no lights, no set, action
@user-oh9wd9kl9n
@user-oh9wd9kl9n 4 месяца назад
With an impending recession, i genuinely dont think we will ever see another young luxury brand cement their place the way the old fashion houses have
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
You think? I think it may be exactly the time for a brand like that to sprout
@catregime
@catregime 4 месяца назад
But if they TRULY wanted to get into design, which they did because I remember, how else are they supposed to do this as already established celebrities who are also very smart? They couldn’t ever be the struggling designers…and they have always been quiet about their stuff. And their fans trust them…so idk what else you want from them.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Perhaps youve misunderstood the video
@AE-nf8nz
@AE-nf8nz 4 месяца назад
love everything i have from their almost can’t wear anything else
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
You have good taste
@addon0
@addon0 4 месяца назад
are you the voice of gecko's garage?
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Whats that?
@emin5488
@emin5488 4 месяца назад
They need a perfume.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Im sure its not far off
@ericaohmg95
@ericaohmg95 4 месяца назад
Yes! Elizabeth & James Nirvana French Grey is my fave perfume ever and it’s discontinued lol
@ciaociara
@ciaociara 4 месяца назад
16:26 i have heard that most businesses don’t make money their first year, but a loss of £18,000,000 over 15 years before making profit is insane to me (i work in the industry)
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Yes its certainly a lot, it makes one wonder why they would persevere
@4u2nvskin58
@4u2nvskin58 4 месяца назад
The row is the best
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
🤍
@alexanderwolfe9268
@alexanderwolfe9268 4 месяца назад
Please do Chrome Hearts next
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Ohhh interesting
@ashhhx93
@ashhhx93 4 месяца назад
Call me crazy but I feel like they didn't pic a winner cause Gabi didn't like how hers translated on camera 🤣 I love this channel I say that with love lol
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
I dont understand?
@ashhhx93
@ashhhx93 4 месяца назад
@@understitchYT omg I have no idea how thay comment ended up on here 🤣 I'm so sorry. It was supposed to be the video I watched before I watched this one 🤣🤣 I'm lost too
@piercenigel4670
@piercenigel4670 4 месяца назад
it's going to ex-plode! the number of margaux bags reviews and outré lotd with them i'm seeing is amazing. what i love is that there's nothing to review or wit to pose. it's a 2d cut of blackness. the end. the military-industrial complex of fashion-show-off can't cope with minimalism.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Sometimes the lack of features is exactly what one is looking for though, no?
@piercenigel4670
@piercenigel4670 4 месяца назад
@@understitchYT exactly. HOWEVER (i love the way you say that word ;-), these public fashionistas are not minimalists. the margaux is the bag du jour, so they just have to buy it - it's what they do. but the row doesn't lend itself to the types of content these people are used to make.
@piercenigel4670
@piercenigel4670 4 месяца назад
and you can see it in their faces that they hate it! 🤣
@diaryandnotes5350
@diaryandnotes5350 4 месяца назад
🎉
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Thank you so much 🙌🙌
@user-cq5sg9cb4t
@user-cq5sg9cb4t 4 месяца назад
The Olsen sisters are based.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Very based
@miguelstarboy5572
@miguelstarboy5572 4 месяца назад
love them sm but this is just overpriced af, yeah it's good quality but not made of diamonds, it would've been cool if they stayed more affordable as it started instead of just marketing for basic millionaires
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
But then theyd be no different to all the other celeb brands
@miguelstarboy5572
@miguelstarboy5572 4 месяца назад
@@understitchYT no cause all the other celebs make cheap crap, they could've made well designed stuff at an affordable price not necesserarily cheap, it's not worth it at all, years and years of the same boring basics but the price keeps going up...
@sarahwales6276
@sarahwales6276 2 месяца назад
Why would they be obligated to hire black people? They should hire people based on talent and suitability for the role not race.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 2 месяца назад
It's not that they're forced to hire Black people, but that the total absence of an entire race of people, in New York, is unusual and to some, suspicious, especially when their Asian employees are less financially compensated for equal work
@ajae...
@ajae... 4 месяца назад
I would have never thought of Rockafella as a luxury brand. I know Sean Jean had a 5th Avenue store in NYC. It would be interesting to see a vodeo on the rise snd fall of hip hop brands. I know people will think it's a disservice to individual brands to put them together, but I always thought that with the exception of Kanye's brand they all had similar trajectories. Phat Farm, Baby Fat, and l Sean Jean on the high end, and Rockafella, G-Unit, Wu Wear, and FUBU on the lower end.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Interestingly, they all seem to have had different journeys and trajectories, none of these brands really had the same kind of fall, I’ll definitely be looking at them in the future
@ajae...
@ajae... 4 месяца назад
@@understitchYT Well, if that's so then I'd really like to see what you put together.
@Rebecca0010
@Rebecca0010 4 месяца назад
Who knows of this because of Soft White Underbelly?
@lisamcallister6534
@lisamcallister6534 4 месяца назад
Never never never. And I'm not alone. Over hyped and over priced. Have you seen these clothes? You can tell if you handle them, no no no.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
You think so? I was very impressed personally
@Ste2023
@Ste2023 4 месяца назад
like kk , kylie , vic Beckham its HYPE. no one who knows about style would buy such crap .
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Its 100% hype, but every brand is, celebrity or otherwise
@Tweegrrl
@Tweegrrl 4 месяца назад
13:37 If the Row has a 30-60 year-old demographic, then why is their model a child?
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Its aspirational, same reason car ads have people in their early 20s despite them knowing full well thats a tiny part of their demographic
@PrincessVelaryon
@PrincessVelaryon 4 месяца назад
Brands like the Row and Phoeby Philo know that their patrons and fans are the type of people that will support them through their racism.
@eddyt81
@eddyt81 4 месяца назад
ah yes, another individual with a victim complex.
@CupcakeQueenkrj
@CupcakeQueenkrj 4 месяца назад
how do u relate racism to having a victim complex?@@eddyt81
@leonaparic2089
@leonaparic2089 4 месяца назад
ah...lol
@Gay-Icon
@Gay-Icon 4 месяца назад
The Row? Racist? What happened?
@Gay-Icon
@Gay-Icon 4 месяца назад
​@@eddyt81hypocrite. As if you'd support a black owned brand exposed for racism.
@connieb.4071
@connieb.4071 4 месяца назад
Not having black staff doesn't surprise me, their brand isn't geared towards black people
@Thisath100
@Thisath100 4 месяца назад
I agree that it's not surprising, but why do you think the latter statement? I do find it somewhat unfortunate that a majority of the current product shots aren't with POC on their website, but they look stunning on all that ARE on.
@dva5610
@dva5610 4 месяца назад
@@Thisath100the majority of their clients aren’t POC so why would they use POC models as a majority?
@Thisath100
@Thisath100 4 месяца назад
@@dva5610 ?? Who's saying that they should use POC as a majority of models?
@dva5610
@dva5610 4 месяца назад
@@Thisath100 YOU
@leonaparic2089
@leonaparic2089 4 месяца назад
🙄 here is the little fact, it is their company, they can hire who ever they want
@songsenkei
@songsenkei 4 месяца назад
You‘re making at least three figures from this video. The least you could do is buy their $45 book when you are this short on information on their brands.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
What kind of maths did you do to figure that out?
@SusanBSketchy
@SusanBSketchy 4 месяца назад
Their business acumen is quite impressive. I have not seen other celebrity brands attempt to independently emulate the LVMH business model quite like the Olson twins have. In some ways, they remind me of Max Mara and Hermes in that the focus seems to be on creating the best luxury version of functional wardrobe staples. Interesting that their brand reflects their personal choice to remain extremely private now that they have retired from acting; it's obviously their brand, but unlike the Kardashian clothing brands, they have prioritized letting the quality of their garments and the notoriety of their customers speak for themselves. Truly the epitome of quiet luxury. I always admired their sense of style growing up, and in a way, The Row feels like the grown-up version of their personas.
@understitchYT
@understitchYT 4 месяца назад
Lots of celeb brands try the LVMH method, because today its seen as the most profitable method for a fashion house, but youre right that few manage to do it profitably
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