The Fascinating Alternative To Carrying Multitools

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A quick video looking at the thinking behind carrying a Leatherman compared to separate items. Is the price worth paying for the convenience?
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We look at the Knipex Cobra XS and a bit kit from Victorinox as well as a pocket knife from Victorinox too. There are some interesting surprises when we add up the prices and weights!
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Here are the prices I based my cost comparison on:
Counterparts Kit:
Knipex £22
Bit kit £22
Tiny SAK £15
Convergence Kit:
Bladeless Rebar £95
Leatherman bit kit £30
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@BenVallack 2 года назад

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@BOOSTEDLASER 2 года назад

DITCHED MY (EDC) LEATHERMAN SURGE+EXTENDER+BIT KIT....FOR KNIPEX 5 INCH PLYERS/WRENCH( WONDER WHY SO MANY LIKE COBRA) AND A FEW SEPERATES(HIGH QUALITY)

@FullTimeHypocrite Год назад

you can get replacement parts for jigsaws that can hold jigsaw blades and are usable manually. Very nice, since you can just change them when they break or carry multiple blades for different materials. Also do yourself a favor and get a good knife steel blade. Not that 420hc stuff (K390 comes to mind). I prefer Knipex pliers wrench as they close parallel. You can also use those to hold driver bits (especially true for the flat design leatherman bits in case you already have those). Overall you will end up heavier for sure but I think having the right tool for the job for a bit more money and a little more weight is worth it.

@leonheiherbat1186 7 месяцев назад

Cannot find the link to the screw driver victorinox thingi… anyone know

@RSLtreecare 6 месяцев назад

Hi, thank you. I'll link up and run them. Cheers.

@peterryan7340 2 года назад

The Knipex pliers wrench XS are the ones you want for the removal of fasteners without marring their surfaces

@angrydragonslayer 2 года назад

I have spent snap-on money on their plier wrenches They're amazing and rightfully take up 2 spots on my pant flaps

@nickiebanchou 2 года назад

knipex 86 series, the XS is only a little bit smaller than the 125mm but lacks the latch button and has basically the same size jaw , only a tiny bit shorter handle....

@tjp148 2 года назад

Yeah my first thought also. Why spend knipex money on tools to use them incorrectly? Alternatively the 125mm pliers wrench are still lovely and compact and offer 20% more torque and are cheaper and easier to source than the 100mm version.

@nickiebanchou 2 года назад

@@tjp148 yeah the XS are cute AF and hyper pocketable, but they are also 50% more money than the 125 so if EDC storage was such an issue i'd rather saw off some 125's handles ... (and even why not carry a little tube for extra torque, something that is also tricky to do with the XS flattened handle... )

@joetaylor486 Год назад

Just bought a pair of those knippex pliers and am super impressed. Quart in a pint pot.

@jacobleetech Год назад

First video I came across of yours but as an engineer and EDC enthusiast I LOVE breakdowns like this. Top notch. You earned another subscriber from me

@captainnapalm8207 Год назад

For your scissors/awl problem, I HIGHLY recommend the Leatherman Squirt S4. It's single handedly the most used tool I own.

@Faenwolf Год назад

Unfortunately it seems to be discontinued…

@jakemustian99 Год назад

I carry a leatherman wave with a bit kit. I use the knife and pliers constantly, the file and saw weekly. Also, the wire cutters/ strippers work well for me. I would be hard pressed to find separate options that add up to all of that without just getting a swiss army knife and a pair of needlenose wire strippers. I love my leatherman.

@christopherrowley7506 Год назад

I think exactly the sak with real pliers is the best option. It fits better in the pocket, weighs less, and gives you better functionality. It's also far cheaper. I usually wear carhartt work pants, so I just keep the pliers in one of the low side pockets and that works well for me

@clydedoris5002 20 дней назад

The bits are junk one of the flatheads bent just from doing an outlet cover

@etherealicer 2 года назад

First off, Victorinox only sells the bit-kit in combination with the Spirit, but almost every Victorinox dealer will sell them seperately (there is also one with ratchet and you can also get them separately in the brand stores). So, no they are not discontinued. Another good kit is the Wera Kraftform Kompakt 10/12, as this gives you a more traditional bit holder. Slightly larger than the offering from Victorinox, but more comfortable in use. As for L-shaped wrenches, there are quite many available in the bike world. Probably my favorite is the Mineral Mini Bar. And finally, if you can get away with 4mm bits, then there is the Red Cycling Products - Micro Pocket Tool,

@BenVallack 2 года назад

Good info cheers!

@apmikalogran 2 года назад

Good wrench is also provided by lidl small cheap and good quality for the money

@mikaluostarinen4858 2 года назад

1/4 inch open end/box wrench is cheap and light, good for turning bits. It's better to have a bit holder so that the wrench cannot glide downwards. Leverage is good, the narrow wrench can be a bit uncomfortable with tight screws. A small tube, f.ex. a tubular socket on the wrench helps that.

@abc-iq9fk 2 года назад

Granite Rocknroll Mini Ratchet for me.😌

@chasingthetrail9375 Год назад

Topeak ratchet rocket lite is a better version of the Victorinox ratchet having owned both

@jacksonmowry 2 года назад

Came for the keyboard videos, stayed for the amazing quality of videos! Great job

@tomasdeleondominguez7693 Год назад

It comes down to personal taste and line of work. Most of the times I think a dedicated excellent tool is the best for each application and could be carried separately, on the pockets, belt, etc.

@roidelababylonetoto8552 Год назад

Agreed this is why I dont carry my leatherman at work

@KevinJDildonik Год назад

This. "Everyday carry" is mostly posturing unless you have a specific line of work. Like Jamie from Mythbusters is always fabricating so having some paper, a pencil, etc. is something he legitimately always needs to have on hand every day. Meanwhile the EDC people are too often the types to bring a cocked and loaded 1911 to a movie theater just in case the Taliban invade. Or whatever.

@northernnightmare7986 Год назад

@@KevinJDildonik Traveling to and from the movies is when you would most need the 1911, having it at the theater is just a part of carrying an efficient self defense tool. Unless you think no one has ever been assaulted, robbed, murdered, kidnapped or raped traveling to or from the theater? 🤔

@tildey6661 Год назад

@@northernnightmare7986 good thing there’s no famous examples of people being killed at theatres

@Call-me-Al Год назад

@@KevinJDildonik EDC people outside of gun nuts do exist, and most have a pretty meager amount of EDC stuff (pen, utility knife or minor multitool, wallet, watch, chapstick) unless they have specific circumstances like work gear. Or like me prefer to also have a few bandaids (chapstick on paper cuts and bandaid on top is an effective way to make them stop hurting by cutting off the air supply), headache/migraine medication, backup medication, a swig of water, and the like. EDC may have started as a gun term, but these days it's just about what trinkets you habitually keep in your pockets or on yourself. It's usually just a fun excuse to nerd over other people's cool trinkets like including them actually bothering to get a majority of their few stuff in a color theme or extra durable or whatnot. I carry a "mere" basic 4 color bic pen because that makes most sense for me, but it's fun to see other people's choices of workhorse writing implement even if it's something that is way too over-engineered or wouldn't work for your needs. Same about people's choices for small utility knife/multitool, and so on. It's cool to see what different people deem relevant for their daily lives, especially when they also show off EDC work stuff and not just what they carry for outside of work.

@johnossendorf9979 2 года назад

I'v pocket EDCed my Swiss Champ for 37 years. It has saved my bacon many times. I also EDC a Gerber Gator in 154CM. I'v been toying with the idea of carrying Knipex Cobras, still debating between 4 and 5 inch.

@PeaceLoveAndGuns Год назад

Hey Ben, I love this re-analysis of what we take for granted as being useful or staus quo. A couple years ago your vids turned me onto Halmak and Ortholinear keyboards and I still think it’s great. (the plank is a little too small for me but I built an XD75RE that I LOVE) Thanks and keep doing what you do!

@1zaj34 Год назад

Very nice video and good explanation of the setup. The point you're making at 06:50 maybe deserves to be emphasized a little bit more. The ability to hold a nut on one side, while fastening the screw from the other side, was the main driver for me to switch from a plier based multitool, to a distributed setup. Regarding the saw or file, you could consider swapping the small Vic for a 91mm one. As far as I can see, they should be UK-legal too, as they are not locking. In my case it's the Explorer, because I really like the magnifier and the inline-Phillips (and I don't really have the need for a saw that often in a urban environment), but there is a wide range of options available. 🙂

@MicroplaysMC Год назад

Interesting ideas for sure. I'm but a novice mechanic and ever since I found a pair of small pliers akin to those knipex I was surprised by how well they worked. It's good for practically any bolt 8-13mm. Incredibly handy for doing battery installs on cars when I worked at autozone. It gets 80% of the jobs done, which is impressive just being a set of pliers.

@MrBluesluver Год назад

Nice and good info. Since retiring, I really don't need an EDC mult-tool and have been trying different pliers. The rest of the typical tools on a full size MT are on either of my Victorinox SAKs (Climber for edc an Hiker for field use}. I switch between a small needle nose and a small channel lock type pliers, depending on what I intend to do. Thank you for the information.

@compjelly Год назад

I had a very similar realization, that's why I just carry a small pair of scissors everywhere with me, it was my most used tool by far. I use scissors marketed for cutting bandages, so they don't have a sharp tip to poke a hole in my pocket.

@MrBluesluver Год назад

Great video. Before retiring (from nursing), I carried a Gerber Scout 600 Pro every day either on my belt or in my work pack. Depended on dress codes. But I always had a SAK in my pocket regardless of where I was. Currently, I have pretty much replaced the Multitool with a 6 inch pliers similar to yours (Irwin brand) for around town. The multitool still goes to the field, though. Thanks for the info and keep up the good work.

@AvantGarde4445 Год назад

This is probably the best product review video I've ever watched

@Brandon_Neil 2 года назад

Very interesting points you make. I will say though coming from a maintenance guy, the other random tools like a file, saw and bigger blade compared to a Swiss army tool really do come in handy for me. I do realize though that most people never need tools like that so it's just dead weight. I still believe a proper multitool is an essential piece of gear to have close to you at all times. Even if you carry your separate replacement tools, having a multitool in an edc bag or something will still come in handy every once in a while.

@BFSarthur 2 года назад

i find myself using all the tools on the p4 all the time doing construction. i feel naked without it

@danielorozco1728 2 года назад

exactly, I use all of the tools of my leatherman surge almost everyday, and even if I go from home to the gas station I grab my surge just in case, no need to carry all the extra tools...

@TheBigMadWolf 2 года назад

The beauty of multitools is that such a variety is available that you can mix and match them to your exact preference. This video sold me on the idea of the bit driver set and the knipex being used simultaneously and yet cutting on weight. If I was in your situatiotion, needing a file and a saw, I would consider adding a Victorinox to the set in the video. Check out the Locksmith - one hand opening blade, large file and large saw. All three tools are longer and better than those on a Leatherman, in my oppinion. (If I sound like a Victorinox fanboy, that's because I am. Love the idea and variety of Leatherman, but owning four models, I find the quality far inferior to a Victorinox. Sorry) The bottom line is that there is no right or wrong answer. The best tool is the one you are personally able to use most comfortably and efficiently.

@batlu97 2 года назад

Blades, saws and files are better individually, i find more useful bike multitool that you can carry on the bike, but for cars if you don’t have a heavy tool box is better to carry the whole thing.

@danielorozco1728 2 года назад

@@batlu97 i would never carry a separate file and saw just in case... having them conviniently folded on a multitool is worth carrying. Obviously every single tool would be better by itself but we are talking about weight and space savings

@chronovore3726 2 года назад

The Leatherman is good if you want the tools on your belt. BTW, I think the Victorinox bit kit is offered with some versions of their Swiss Tool, which can be a good alternative to a Leatherman in their own right.

@Sil3nC4 2 года назад

I went down a similar rabbit hole for a job a few years back and went with the Wera Toolcheck PLUS. It is a little heavier and bigger than the one you have settled on, but a lot more capable and rugged. I was so happy with it, I bought one for my toolkit at home. Also I recently started to replace all my cheap tongs for Knipex tongs. They are expensive, but I am happy with the money spent EVERY time I reach for one, especially when building keyboards (small ESD tongs and side cutters)

@BenVallack 2 года назад

Awesome!

@Fletcher91 Год назад

With the toolcheck's sockets he wouldn't have damaged the nuts as well.

@shannonheathcliffmul Год назад

daaaamn that's a nice compact set, thanks for informing me of a new exciting thing i cant afford

@jetseverschuren Год назад

I got a wave plus as a gift a couple years ago, and still carry it every day in my backpack. It's not the best file, knife, screwdriver, scissors, etc. But it does it all good enough when you need to fix something in a pinch, and has saved me plenty of times. Weight wise it might not stack up to specialized tools, but especially for convenience it's much nicer. For my use case at least

@bogdanisari4365 2 года назад

I was looking for a similar idea when I bought my Leatherman surge. But needle nose pliers are very important for me, two very good blades and very versatile replaceable file. All of this in one packege.

@JonGadget 2 года назад

great video as always Ben and some great points covered

@lloydlego6088 Год назад

I just bought the knipix pliers. I have a knife, electrician scissors and a swivel head ratcheting driver, and bits and a compact box cutter. They all stay in a pouch that I can move from One bag to another so I do not have to duplicate my carry. It is working out great.

@d3lta1 Год назад

I’ve been looking at exactly these two options. Perfect timing and off to purchase the separates. Many thanks

@JNP-2 Год назад

I highly recommend the ICON 58074 at harbor frieght. it's a multi-position locking flex ratchet with a 1/4 inch hex through-hole, with a bit driver in the other end of the handle, and an extension which can be stuck through the ratchet head to use the other end as a t-handle bit driver. The whole case fits in your hand, and comes with 30-odd bits. Definitely bulkier than the victorinox, but has many more options. At the time of this post the cost is $45 USD.

@lyricwashere 11 месяцев назад

The Icon's hardware is the most innovative I've found. Now we just need a more compact and lightweight carry system. The supplied case is fantastic in a toolbox or glove compartment, but it's far to large for a pants pocket.

@thefrub Год назад

After trying out a dozen different mutlitools and knives, I got a Gerber Dime a few years ago and I love it. It's light enough that I don't even notice it on my keychain, but it's got enough functionality to cover most uses I need

@DresdenFPV Год назад

dime FTW! - it just doesn't get better when it comes to weight vs. usability. I'm actually on my third now (once I broke the flat-head-scredriver, another just got lost somewhere) and if I'd ever need something like it again, then I'm probably buying another. Also for my bike I got some kind of allen key with a philips-head on the short side - that's EXACTLY the right size to do like 90% of the things I'm doing on my bikes.

@jspack8 Год назад

It's bit driver broke after 2 days of use. Love everything else though!

@maxx620s Год назад

Second time coming across this video and was so close to doing almost this exact setup. 10 months later and I've now tweaked it using the knipex plyers, Bitt Bar Inline, and the James Brand Ellis with straight edge. The setup can do all the things my old wingman could do but it does it way better. Love the videos

@JC_1095 Год назад

I have almost the same set up! I carry 4 (sometimes 5) inch cobras and pliers wrench, the bit bar inline, but also a leatherman titanium charge and a dedicated pocket knife like the spyderco military or the Victorinox Hunter pro alox. The main reason I got the bit bar inline was not just an edc screwdriver with a pocket clip, but to also use the outer handle as an improvised "cheater bar" if I needed some more leverage on my edc knipex. If it wasnt for that extra feature, I might have preferred their EDS 2 instead.

@noahwinslow3252 2 года назад

Found your channel yesterday, loving the work, keep it up!

@bluematter435 6 месяцев назад

~2:00 "These things can grip nuts" man i love me some DIY !

@buckcherry2564 Год назад

I love the thought behind this. I carry a Gerber legend 800 and it is a TANK of a multitool, been through war and camping and jeeping and 23+ years of daily use, but the idea of these small high quality tool options as separate things is perfect for people that dont want to carry 10lbs on their belt and in pockets (I dont mind, personally). I have friends that like the idea of multitools but cant stand the bulk, they are all getting sent this video for sure. I appreciate having these alternate views in the EDC echochamber.

@kennogawa6638 2 года назад

The can and bottle opener are handy on the Leatherman when you sharpen the edge it makes plastic sealed package opening a snap.

@Maixo 5 месяцев назад

Good alternatives. I have the Knipex Cobra Xs and it's a very handy tool. I carry it in a pouch with a Leatherman Skeletool at work and they solve most problems while being a very light carry.

@stevedriscoll2539 2 года назад

Nice! I carried my 6" knipex cobra pliers at times with a victorinox Spartan, and yes, agreed, way more capability than any multitool that I have, but in the end, I am just a sucker for my multitools

@Capin91 Год назад

Used to be fascinated with multitools as a kid for their fun gadget quality. As an adult I’m hard-pressed to think of a single time I found one to be truly useful

@donttreadonme1423 24 дня назад

I keep breaking Leatherman pliers. Wave and surge. Time to.move on I suppose.

@totalweirdo3378 Год назад

Love this video and your approach to EDC, Thanks for sharing.

@BeansEnjoyer911 Год назад

Going to have to watch this video because even though I’ve skipped over it a million times, RU-vid just assures me this is a recommended video… for like 2 weeks straight now

@BenVallack Год назад

ha that's hilarious! (it is really blowing up at the moment) let me know what you think!

@TeoHarlan Год назад

Awesome little deep dive. Very interesting!

@fredperry9235 2 года назад

I was looking for someone to do this comparison. Thank you

@robertmills4980 2 года назад

Great video. As an edc enthusiast we must always mix n match change it up experiment with different carry options

@archaedemos Год назад

Not sure how this video algoed me but I'm happy! Thanks for the upload. Great looking knipex I am thinking.

@jacquesdespadas Год назад

I'm a little late to the party, but: I've never been a fan of multitools, and you have put all my thoughts on the matter into words better than I could have. An alternative to the Victorinox driver tool: Topeak makes a ratcheting 1/4" hex driver that gives you both the high torque function of a right angle, and an in-line driver bit holder at the opposite end. With a Wiha 1/4" to 4mm hex adapter, you can include both 1/4" hex bits and precision bits in your kit, and an Altoids Smalls tin will fit a surprising number of each. All this, plus a standard driver extension, fit in my 5th pocket. I just picked up a Cobra XS, and it is incredible. So ridiculously tiny, but so capable. The Victorinox scissors are (still) the best--short of a dedicated tool--and they come with almost any combination of other tools you might want. Classic. Thanks for the great vid!

@FelixSargent 2 года назад

Excellent! It disturbs me how much we think the same, and are thinking about the same things! Just built out my EDC.

@BenVallack 2 года назад

Haha!

@LetsLearnThisCoding 2 года назад

I have to say that these videos really hit on points that I always think about when I am building out my EDC. Really thoughtful and concise. Keep up the amazing work!

@stuartmacdonald7241 2 года назад

Brilliant! What an eye opener

@rafaelallenblock Год назад

I have a Leatherman Wave that I use not because it's better than the tools it replaces, it's because it's more compact than the tools it replaces.

@patrickbledsoe2176 Год назад

Right ive watched alot of these videos on this idea.. and people in the comments talking shit on all multi tools being not as good as a real tool... and I don't get it,cause you nailed it I carry a modified wave plus that use almost daily but it's so much more convenient than carrying a man purse full of tools just crazy unless your doing construction and ya ought have a tool belt anyway

@simonh6371 11 месяцев назад

@@patrickbledsoe2176 Well yes and no. Right now I'm carrying a Wera screwdriver with bit extender and 3 bits, total the size of a Bic lighter, in my coin pocket, next to an actual Bic lighter. Knipex Cobra in the actual right pocket next to it and next to that a Vic Climber, clipped inside that pocket. That has 2 blades, 2 flat drivers/openers, scissors, reamer/awl and some other small tools which take up zero space. Sure it doesn't have file and saw, or wirecutters but I don't generally need them. It works for me and takes up less space than a Wave. I don't do pouches or fannybags or whatever, strictly low key pocket carry. If I do want a file and woodsaw I can swap out the Climber for a Ranger which adds those tools. All of the individual tools except the knife blade which I'd say are even stevens, are better than the ones on the Wave.

@benjaminparent4115 10 месяцев назад

@@patrickbledsoe2176 It really depend from what you need and how you value space and weight, I mean the victorinox bit adaptator + victorinox ranger + a 145 mm knipex combination plier weight exactly 314g with four empty spot for bits. With that you have the following function : Slip Joint large and small Blade, Nail file/ Nail cleaner/metal file/metal saw, Corkscrew, Multipurpose hook, Toothpick, Can opener, Scissors, Tweezers, 4 mm Chisel, Bottle opener, Wire stripper, Wood saw, Reamer, punch and sewing awl, screwdriver with 6 bits, and the same type of needlenose combination plier you find on most leatherman. That's not something I would qualify as a man purse full of tool, and yet it's the near equivalent of a wave plus with few function missing and few function being added, and it is only slightly heavier and slighlty more voluminous, and where I live those three items cost less than a wave +. Personally I think the heavier foot print for better tools is way worth it, but I do carry a small messenger bags everywhere with me so weight and space are not as much as a constraint compared to people that only pocket carry.

@patrickbledsoe2176 9 месяцев назад

@@bettyswollocks9611that'd be a hell of accomplishment wouldn't it

@s.h.v.c2865 2 года назад

Very interesting video! Funnily enough, I went through the same process about a year and a half ago. I carried a Victorinox Tinker Deluxe, but I didn't like the bulk and the weight. The things I found I used the most where the scissors and the pliers, so I got a Knipex 125 and a Victorinox Jetsetter (bladeless) for the scissors and tweezers and I've loved the combo since. Way lighter, thinner, more capable and you can distribute the weight in different pockets or leave an item out if you don't think you need it that day. That being said, I have bought a Tinker Small to fit into that set, which perhaps brings the weight up a bit more, but I care more about slimness vs weight.

@BenVallack 2 года назад

Great stuff!

@Dracomies Год назад

Check out the Rambler! :P

@tejasahluwalia8713 2 года назад

Wonderful video and nice finds! Thank you

@PedroFaria Год назад

My all time favourite multi tool is that little Victorinox with scissors. The sharpness and durability of those small blades is awesome.

@jettrooper101 Год назад

Yep, the small one he showed is the one I carry everywhere with me, I use the knife a bit but the scissors way more often. And its so small you forget you have it, and I'm sure I'll inevitably lose it at some point because of its size.

@DavyCrosier Год назад

Wonderful video! I will need to pick up one of the Knipex pliers you were using. I’ve carried and used the Leatherman Wave+ for three years now, often with the Leatherman bit kit in my backpack or on my belt. I’ve learned a few things about the Leatherman multi-pliers multitool system. First, these tools really are designed as a jack of all trades. I would much rather have all the individual tools with me, except that they would weigh a heckuva lot. When carrying those tools may be helpful but overly cumbersome, that’s where multitools shine. The second thing I have learned is that the Leatherman bit kit carries some distinct advantages that make them worth carrying. Because Leatherman bits are flat, they are lighter and slimmer to carry. Also, having all of the standard bit sizes in the world on your belt is amazing. Sure the bits wear, but so does any other screwdriver bit. Luckily, Leatherman doesn’t jack up their prices for their bits much, making it a viable and affordable option for an on-the-go toolkit to pair with a multitool. Lastly, it’s important to pick the right multitool for your everyday needs. Each Leatherman has a different set of tools, and it’s important to consider which tools you’ll need on a daily and weekly basis. It’s also important to note that those needs will not always stay the same. I know this is long, but this topic has been on my mind for a while. Thanks for reading.

@robotdowning963 2 года назад

2:07 "So these things can grip nuts up to 24 mm" I'm tired and my humor has gone down the toilet 😂

@dstyer6128 2 года назад

I've used a modded Skeletool (I added a 3d printed hammer) for the last 5 years and the thing just takes a beating, tons of use, knife still sharp as a razor. Wonderful quality.

@danielorozco1728 2 года назад

what?????? could you make a video on it? thats impressive, did you build it ?

@Meatpopsicle2050 Год назад

Love my skeletool.

@Reverend_Taco Год назад

I’ve broke so many skeletools over the years, there’s no way you’re not a shill 😂😂

@dstyer6128 Год назад

@@Reverend_Taco Well I'm not a mechanic or a tradesman so if you are truly putting it to work I could see a difference in use lol.

@ironmikehallowween 2 года назад

I often carry a SAK and Knipex pliers. It’s easy, I have most tools I need, the pliers are very good and the combo is very light. I still carry a Wave + sometimes as well. It’s heavier but, most of the tools are more robust than my SAK tools. It depends on what I think I need. You can use whatever bits you want with the Leatherman extension.

@nicolasengele 2 года назад

By coincidence this is my exact edc. Before this I used to carry the Victorinox Swiss Tool X, which was way to heavy as daily driver (but this is were I got the bit kit from). Sometimes I exchange my Victorinox Rambler for the Huntsman (e.g. when going hiking).

@kimjohansson436 2 года назад

Great video! I always thought these mid sized plier based multitools didnt make much sense to be honest. It's sort of this middle ground where I often would have more than I need but also alot of the time less than I need. I prefer to either carry Leatherman Surge because its reassuring that it will do it all (and often a little better compared to other multitools) at the cost of substantial bulk or something small like a SOG PowerPint, Victorinox Swisschamp or a LM Juice for more convenience. Multitools are a compromize. Thats the whole idea - substituting a bunch of dedicatrd tools for something that works "alright" but is more convenient to carry. A mid sized is a compromise on the compromise in a sense. Of course the best thing is to know exactly what you need and stick to the bare essentials as you do.

@BenVallack 2 года назад

Nicely put!

@HughPecon Год назад

King Surge

@pilotino 2 года назад

brilliant video. I came to the same conclusion separately, but it took me many hours of reseach to find this stuff, especially the victorinox L shaped bit holder

@BenVallack 2 года назад

Yeah me to! I was looking for that for a long time! They should sell it as a proper tool.

@DrDAC-go7hs 21 день назад

The bit kit is called Victorinox 3.0303 and is a replacement for the one included in some SwissTools. Seems like they've moved on to 3.0306 which has a ratcheting handle.

@zacharybennett3249 2 года назад

I just opted to carry the mini ViceGrips around for their adjustability and combined clamping effect. I gotta check out that driver set though! Great video and as always, Cheers!

@maxwellmortimermontoure7274 2 года назад

Checkout the LM crunch

@sdgardner1954 2 года назад

Bonus: you get a wirecutter!

@maxlvledc 2 года назад

wow, I've been assembling 15+ plier items to cover this exact topic..great minds! I'm still not 100% sure about the screwdriver..still testing.

@BenVallack 2 года назад

Nice!! Look forward to watching.

@davidgold5961 Год назад

4:17 I have the same thing, and I have loaded it up with an assortment of bits to fit my needs. I also have two more bits loaded onto the wrench itself. Victorinox also makes the same thing with a ratchet, which is really awesome

@fredio54 Год назад

I keep the one above those and the small plier wrench version on my desk at all times. All the bigger ones live in the garage, but the next size up is a pair (one of each type) in a little holster. If you genuinely use them for nuts/bokts, try the small pljer wrenches, they're a better fit. But each has their place.

@josie4065 Год назад

Knipex makes the best pliers out there. The mini cobra and parallel jaw plier set is fabulous. Just today, I was able to use the parallel jaw pliers multiple times when neither a crescent wrench nor a socket wrench would fit. The handles may be only four inches or so, but the jaws open to ~1-1/4 inches, which is more than many crescent wrenches.

@SturleyArt Год назад

Great little video. Clear info and well presented. Where did you get the little pouch too?

@hanslick3375 Год назад

Those pliers are so cute 🥰 nice finish and build quality

@chriskodani2543 2 года назад

GREAT video, and a very clever kit! Now add a Victorinox Hiker, or Camper, and you’ll have a saw too, plus all the great tools they come with, like an awl and large blade.

@diversionmary 2 года назад

I love my 5" knipex. I use it all the time, and I carry a leatherman. You could grind down one of the arms of the knipex into an awl? Keep a rubber 'glove', or slip some paracord sheath over it until you need the awl.

@baobo67 2 года назад

Terrific video thanks. I have tried them all and found the multi tools are Jack of all jobs but master of none or certainly not for long. I narrowed my work carry down to a double ended screw/philips driver from a motor car tool kit, a good quality light pair of long nosed pliers and a Spartan Swiss army kife. Covered me for years ln the hospitality industry fixing busted suit cases and other minor repairs. No one tool can do everything. Cheers

@BenVallack 2 года назад

Brilliant!

@Traderjoe 2 года назад

I found a way to make an awl by buying a very small spade bit, like for drilling holes in wood, and cutting off the shaft with a cut off wheel on a Dremel. This will fit in most bit holders. The bit usually has a hole in it too and functions as a sewing awl.

@BenVallack 2 года назад

Great idea!

@vensheaalara 2 года назад

Quite excellent points! You have earned a subscriber. Hmmm, the only thing missing to me is a really excellent case that contains these items with snap-in and out capability. Perhaps I will make a kydex design for such a kit. Thanks!

@linusmalmberg9534 2 года назад

Great video. I'm often going with the exact same combo myself. Only difference is I generally take a larger Victorinox (got quite a few to choose from). If you do want an awl with your kit, without going with a larger SAK (like the Vic Compact, Climber or Pioneer X to name a few), i guess one possible solution would be to sacrifice a bit and grind it into an awl.

@aurtisanminer2827 Год назад

I switched out my leatherman wave for that tiny pair of knipex channel locks as an EDC in my coat pocket. They take up less space and weigh less. The biggest reason I had the leatherman was for the pliers and the knipex ones are more useful to me. I might actually get the next size up pair of knipex pliers for EDC for just a little more leverage. They arent much bigger. I keep a pair in my coverall pocket all the time at work and they get lots of use.

@AlexApol Год назад

Knipex needs to make a multi tool in the style of the cobra. Would be a killer product.

@VictorReyes-rc9xp 2 года назад

For my work EDC in particular carrying cobras in the pocket and a Crunch on my belt is most effective. I tried carrying a Surge and ST300 and it was too much… found out all I need are the basics in a multitool… and the Crunch does it near perfectly. As for my casual EDC a MiniChamp in the pocket; and Cobra/Pliers Wrench and Squirt PS4 in the EDC organizer.

@k9actual557 Год назад

I've carried a Leatherman super tool 300 for the better part of 15 years (the original I bought) and it has served very well for all I've ever needed it for. To be fair I don't use it if I have a dedicated tool available. But in a pinch and for general light duty use (and occasional use likely outside what it was intended for) it has served me well. And pairing it with a dedicated holster of which I've gone through 3 I feel it's a more than adequate multi tool.

@bryancleaveland5480 Год назад

Fully agree with this approach vs a multitool. I had been thinking a visegrip #5 and my Swiss Army knife. The knife has the blade, saw, and scissors. But I like your knipex and the bit kit better.

@TTK912 Год назад

It's looks like a personal preference. Carrying separate tools is the best solution if people clearly know what tasks they need to tackle. Leatherman is more like a backup plier/wire cutter for unexpected task and situation. In fact I always carry a Rebar and a flat bit ratchet with few hex bits in a single pouch on my work belt. I own 2 Rebar and 1 Surge. If people asking me which model to buy, Rebar is the most recommended model if quick-folding knife isn't the priority.

@engineeredlifeform Год назад

Why has YT only just recommended this video?! It's exactly the sort of thing I'm interested in. I usually EDC a Leatherman Bond, and a Nexttool Sailor Mini (The Mini is in a little pouch with a small flashlight and a lighter, that is core EDC), and I've experimented with other tools that are more plier like,..... meanwhile Amazon still have that bit set, so I'm going to investigate that and similar options,... many thnks!

@BenVallack Год назад

It was a late bloomer! Suddenly just went through the roof.

@user-lv8wl6gs1m 5 месяцев назад

Is there a link or info on that little bit kit you found? Love it.

@mrjoshua6979 Год назад

The next up knipex with the red rubber handles are my go to’s. Those are just a tad too small for my hands. But for the added length and grip isn’t much of a weight diff and the whole thing is literally only 1” longer. I need look into that bit thing. Also if you swap the classic for a manager you get your choice of toothpick/tweezer a pen n cap lifter eyeglass screwdriver plus all the classic goodness. Cool video

@donaldcarr8766 Год назад

I have recently been considering similar options. A good combination is victorinox nailcard, Farmer alox (has saw tool,and awl), pliers mentioned here, bit set,plus small edc flashlight.

@mrbigberd Год назад

My big hangup with this setup (been considering something similar) is the lack of a wire cutter.

@donaldcarr8766 Год назад

@@mrbigberd Not ideal I agree, but you do have wire stripper plus knife/saw blade or scissors which may do the job.

@twcamping 2 года назад

I carry Knipex XS and Leatherman Signal in the Outdoor Tools pouch but on myself is just Vic Farmer X and Leatherman Style PS for hiking. Each tools has it own benifit so it depends on your needs

@townieoutdoors8121 Год назад

Great video ' this setup is exactly what I'm looking for .going to pair it with an izula 2 and stream light torch. Fit it all in a micro maxpedition poch

@zacharyb2723 Год назад

These things sure can grip nuts. Edit: Also, the tip is REALLY precise.

@bushleague3472 7 месяцев назад

Great observations, in recent years my leatherman has been replaced by a SAK Hiker, a finger nail clipper, a small set of pliers, and a small daimond file. Lighter, cheaper, and I've gained the ability to use the file to sharpen my knife if needed.

@hqmhqm 2 года назад

One thing I would miss without the multitool plier is having a needle nose plier; the Knipex has kind of a stubby profile. If you want to grab something pretty small and need to get the jaws into a tight place, you need something with a little more narrow long profile jaws. I carry the Victorinox Spirit X, but even that has relatively fat jaws compared with the SOG multi tool. But maybe carrying a separate light needle nose would give you most options. For a small size bit driver, I ended up getting Topeak TT2524 Ratchet Rocket Lite DX Tool , which has a very lightweight ratchet driver which has bit driver at both ends. I don't need the tire irons and other bike stuff that comes with it, but the driver and extension I carry, with my own selection of bits.

@charleslambert3368 Год назад

Knipex do plenty of needle-nose pliers too if that's what you need. Look for serial numbers starting with 26.

@JZL003 2 года назад

It's amazing how closely your videos mirror my own thoughts, between the custom mech keyboard, this edc pliers comparison (I found the leatherman squirt a compromise bc it at least has a puny little pliers which can be useful). One thing I thought of was 3D printing (or order in metal) tips for the leatherman squirt tips, so I could make it into tweezers as well. Since our minds seem to go the same way, I've been getting more into sewing. It's an upfront cost for a sewing machine but then fabric/etc are super cheap. You can get 'performance' fabrics like ballistic nylon cheap too. So one thing is you can tailor your pants to your EDC exactly. If you add a welt pocket (the nice looking pocket of back pockets) to the side, you can get a side phone thigh pocket which is very convenient. Or because I find cramming things into my front/back pocket uncomfortable, I've been thinking about an ankle pocket for very seldom used things like a flashlight or backup medicine/etc. If was on the inside of the ankle it won't even rub. I just think the normal back and front pockets are the worst place for big things bc they're uncomfortable and bulky. See sambleckley.com/writing/pockets.html

@BenVallack 2 года назад

Brilliant thanks for sharing, so glad RU-vid didn’t decide to block your comment due to the link too. I will enjoy reading that! Any article titled ‘on trouser pockets’ gets my attention!

@sunniearshi736 2 года назад

@@BenVallack pockets are an underrated area of reserarch. In fact it should be one of the primary considersations in good clothing design. My pet hate is 'fake pockets' for this reason.

@sunniearshi736 2 года назад

i just read your article; it's excellent, as is your design. Not sure you mentioned it in your list of what people use pockets for, but keeping hands warm is another.

@BenVallack 2 года назад

Brilliant article! I’m actually quite tempted to get a sewing machine now! Any good resources for getting started with the process?

@JZL003 2 года назад

@@BenVallack I should say that the article isn't mine, it's just one I enjoy. If you look on YT for getting started with sewing they'll give the equipment. A nice pair of very thin (~electronic) tweezers is also very helpful. For a sewing machine you can find cheap ones but go for 200-300 I think. I got a cheap one at first and they're unforgiving, when I was learning I did one thing wrong and it broke. (I don't know if it's in the UK but costco has a good one). Also singer was bought out so is now lower quality, I've heard janome is nicer The best resource I've found is freesewing org. They're really cool, it gives parametric patterns so you put in 10-20 exact measurements of your body and they create a pattern for you. They also have a discord of nice people. You'll find there aren't that many male patterns around, but since many men just wear the same types of clothes, it's more about perfecting a shirt/pants/etc with different fabric than lots of patterns Then for the welt pocket look up 'conquering the welt pocket' on seamwork but it's surprisingly tricky. As you're following it take tangents to get comfortable with the machine. But one tricky thing is if you want to jump right in and add welt pockets to *existing* pants, it's going to be hard b/c the pants are already in a joined circle. Sewing machines have 'free arms' where it tries to help fit inside existing clothes but I've had trouble getting to the thigh of existing pants even with the free arm. It's why that article makes pants from scratch. I think the solution is to make pants from scratch, seam rip part of the pants to make it flat then put back, or to hand sew (which I guess defeats getting a sewing machine, if you just want to add pockets). I'm trying to find the time but I'd still like to make pants/shirts from scratch. It's a fun hobby but it goes deep. The amazing thing is we're only used to interacting with clothes made by professionals so, for me, my bar for what handmade would look like was skewed way too professional. But we interact with fabric/sewing all day every day. And the craziest thing is most garmets you see around are all handmade in assembly lines in factories. Like there is no automated machine for clothes (except for some t-shirts). So I sometimes walk around and look around and see how much hand-work goes into everyone's clothes around me, largely unnoticed

@donaldcarr8766 Год назад

Nice to see someone exploring other avenues to reach the same objective in a better way.

@brucermarino 7 месяцев назад

Great video! One should be able to create an awl out of a bit fairly easily. Thanks!

@stevanovic019 2 года назад

Researching which Leatherman to buy as my first multi-tool, I came to the same conclusion and bought the Knipex Cobra XS yesterday. Now it remains for me to complete the other tools separately. Other than tools I already have with my large Victorinox Forester I’ve been using for the last 10+ years. And then I saw your video. Nice.. I like it 👍 PS Cobra fits in my pocket nicely, and other tools (like a bit driver and set of bits) can be carried in my EDC bag all the time I'm out and about.

@maxx620s 2 года назад

Love it. Great thought

@Grayson_Baker 2 года назад

The only thing I would add is a good lightweight folding knide. Great video.

@JohnSmith-fh9jz Год назад

Brilliant video!

@fdarrenlendvay5004 Год назад

Great video and explanation. Thanks for bringing us along!... Maybe a Klein 11n1?

@JPBTheLegend Год назад

I have been carrying Knipex pliers since I heard about them on another channel. I like them in my EDC. The bit driver with bits looks interesting might have to check it out.

@Lazerscythe 10 месяцев назад

I use the same Victorinox bit set. Pro tip, you can superglue some 6x1mm neodynium disc magnets onto each bit holder to make them magnetically hold the bits. It's a real game changer imo.

@markbowen1051 2 года назад

Fully agree with the philosophy here. I have a Leatherman rebar that my sons gave me. It is useful but too heavy and has a locking blade so it’s not legal to carry. It stays in my work bag. I find the scissors on the Victorinox Pioneer X alox to work really well. Have you seen the Topeak Ratchet Rocket - I think the ratchet makes it slightly better than the Victorinox and has a long reach option/extension bar. I have this for my cycle bag and car glove box. I added in a flat head screwdriver bit.

@avoadrian1402 2 года назад

Love this content keep it up

@tzrcruzer Год назад

Hi, nice video. Have you considered the Leatherman crunch, paired with a Swiss Army knife farmer X?

@theplayer2286 2 года назад

Each to their own, of course. Every now and then I do an 'audit' of what I carry. The questions I ask in this audit are as follows: (1) "Given how often I use a particular tool on a multitool (ie the pliers) is it worth carrying the weight?" I cannot come up with a precise mathematical equation on this but W over U? would be a crude version (w= weight, U = use). (2). "Even if I need said tool, will I be too far away from my tool box so as to reach for the proper tool?" (3). "How many jobs that I do can afford to be bodged through want of effort to get the proper (and usually nearby) tools?" Result: I have gone from being 'tooled out' like Batman to the contrasting situation of present. One barlow in pocket; one Modestone notepad with mini sharpie; one Gerber Shard and mini flashlight on keyring. Knipex 125 and Wera compact screwdriver in carry bag. That is all I really need. If anything more is required I have learned that it is well worth the effort to go to the 'real' tool and get the job done properly rather than bodge it.

@BenVallack 2 года назад

Love it

@rodhosilyk Год назад

I pretty much agree with what you said; I went through the same exercise.

@Garloth1 Год назад

Depending on your needs carrying bits only and using them directly or with the Cobra might be an attractive option

@possessionfriend946 4 месяца назад

Victorinox Bit set is available on ebay £21 I've bought the sigma rachet set, won't carry the torque bits around on a day to day basis though useful to have ?