The FaZe Rain Vs Grace Van Dien Drama Just Got Worse... 

Olivia's power point presentation segments are genuinely so good and entertaining, hope we get more!

Hila saying “he needs to find God or something” SENT ME

i absolutely love olivia’s powerpoint segments, even if i’m not interested in the topic. i stan olivia so hard

I get he has a problem with how Faze is run, by why target her? Talk to your organization, lol. As far as her bringing up his overdose, while its a super low blow, if you take the low road and attack someone, expect them to meet you there. I nor anyone is obligated to be respectful to those who don't respect us. Just my 2 cents

Love when Hila and Olivia are both in the discussion

She's in the right 100%. Who cares what she brought up? He was rude to her, she can be rude back. His actions are far worse than hers. This isn't even up for discussion. If you're rude to someone and they're rude back, you got what you were looking for.

What’s scary is that he doesn’t seem to be an exception… he seems to be the norm

It would be cool if Olivia had follow up presentations on topics she has covered especially if there’s more context to those topics

20:44 Olivia:“You just do a lil dance before” olivia is so funny with the little words she says i cant

You cant convince me he wasnt negging her with the insults

Olivia is the best, love her powerpoints and segments she does research into

I think people have to remember that she grew up with a mother that was addicted to drugs, she's very familiar with how the deceptive and manipulative behaviour of an addict can be. I'm pretty sure she recognizes that behaviour in him around 45:00 , it can be traumatic af.

Yeah Rain has just always been a fiery, emotional dude. It would have been sooo simple to side with Grace and aim his frustrations at the suits who are fucking up the company and tbh the whole esports industry. But no, he just had to make things weirdly personal and sexist against Grace. It's such a shame as a big fan of OG FaZe and even Rain back in the day.

The comment section is polluted a f lmao Not even talking about the ones attacking Grace, but also Hila and Olivia?? Like, do yall even know what it means to have your whole career, competence and achievements dismissed as "feminist tokenism"??? He basically insinuated her whole life she has been nothing more than a beneficiary of "diversity politics" ?? And said she doesnt even deserve that bcos she's "mid" ?? That's one of the greatest insults one can conjure up against a young woman. It can kill your self worth, esteem and make you doubt everything and everyone. It can cause you to get a severe imposter syndrome, rendering you unable to enjoy your hard earn achievements. Sorry to break it to yall, but It's just as bad as trying to put someone "in their place" by bringing up their past misfortunes and that's on that. Yall just cant seem to wrap your head around the fact that physical health and mental health are equally important and absence of one can affect another. Both people are wrong but that dude should've just stayed away from her and directed his anger towards the ones who really caused it. He started shit, he escalated it and now yall mad at HER to the point of even dragging these women with her for understanding what it means and what it feels like to be reduced to your genitalia and soft voice and what's associated with it?? Lol get rekt.

I'm around the same age as all of the OG FaZe guys having grown up with FaZe and loving gaming and trickshotting back in the day. It's so sad to see that while I have matured and progressed as a human adult, most of these guys so very clearly have not. They are still locked in their 2013 teenage brains. You can't fully blame them, as becoming rich and famous on the internet at such a young age, and then getting basically groomed by businessmen, definitely leads to its own unique struggles. But there comes a point when you are still accountable for your own actions. Rain's frustration with FaZe is sooo misguided. Instead of being mad at the boomers fucking up the industry he directs sexist hate to a random girl online? Kinda weird bro.

I think she brought it up as saying you are no better than me, i am no better than you. We are equal and you should treat me as such and respect me. At least thats my take. Team grace 💯💯💯

she has tonnes of clout in hollywood (her great grand uncle is the silent film actor Harold Lloyd, she's the great-great-great grandneice of THE Mark Twain, her grandmother is Princess Elizabeth of Yugoslavia and her great grandfather is Robert Mitchum and her Father is Rico) and still got treated like dirt and then goes and tries to make it in another industry and gets the same treatment.

42:51 he is infantilizing her EVEN THO they are 1 year apart! HE IS abusive if he ever does this to children . he is being emotional by the way he is reacting

Until people stop using b*tch and pussy words to describe bad behavior or being scared + it also describes women, that is when those boys become men and respect women up until then, I trust no man saying and using those words and keep saying we respect women.

wow she's such a sweet young lady. wtf is wrong with this dude? just an animal. props to her to for being the daughter of casper, that's pretty cool. starship troopers troopers stand up!

I agreed with Ethan that it seemed mean spirited to bring up his drug abuse issues. There was no reason to mention it. But the dude was bullying her so he sucks.

Yikes. As someone who is trying to escape from a narcissistic brother, the way hes talking with her is so triggering. We havent talked in months (though living in the same house) but this still takes me back to the convos Ive had with him that would end just like that. I hope shes doing ok ❤

Both of em need to wake up. But that dude has some serious issues. Even if he rewatched his video over and over he sees nothing wrong with the way he apologized. It's not sincere at all. The dm apology was way better but wtf

Honestly she’s better than me cause I would’ve played the same game and hit him with your dad left you after he said she was mid lmao

coming back to this after spending the last 2 months watching Rainn’s snapchat story, he’s definitely let Andrew Tate become his new daddy and I’ve lost any old respect I had from the golden days of FaZe. and that’s not just a guess, he’s talked Andrew up on multiple podcasts before and after the police arrested him

i feel bad for her!! although she shouldnt have said “i know you as the one that almost od on stream” i still dont think that was really as bad as everything he said

Feel she is sooooo nice person for not punching him in the face

Her bringing up the drug stuff wasn't appropriate. You could reasonably interpret it as her showing they're both flawed and that they're not worth attacking each other over, but also could read it as her saying "Don't go after me for trickshotting when I could go after you for your overdose" which is pretty gross. But you could reasonably interpret it either way, like Ethan and Hila. But Rain is the reason for this even being a situation. He's the one who made it personal, and turned the sights on her. Also "politics" to him is apparently bringing on someone who isn't a dude. That in and of itself reveals the sexist sentiment underneath phony criticism. He has the same 13 year old internet troll mentality in a grown man's body, that we see with a lot of others these days. He thinks life is a COD lobby. No, people don't have to just take senseless insults and abuse because "who cares what I think" You're allowed to be criticed for being a shitbag, and falling back on "why do you care/you shouldn't care about--" bullshit is cowardly not taking responsibility for bile that comes out of your mouth. Rain is a toxic gaslighting shitbag. Grace seems a little inexperienced like Hila picked up on, but the fact she was willing to have a dialogue with that clout gremlin makes her look like a saint. Unfortunate she inherited this situation, all because shitbags like Rain weren't enough for the brand. She's better than the FaZe shit, leave and let it to die like it already was. She has so much more resources.

Oh when he starts screaming and calling her a bitch …… That’s so embarrassing omg…………

22:15 I'm not defending her bringing it up, but I think the only reason she smiled was because she fumbled her words here.

The world that we live in that some idiot I've never heard of, would make a video saying if he had a consenting Grace from Stranger Things trying to sleep with you, you wouldn't even on your drunkest night with a straight face????? Get the fuck out of here. Also, love this segment with Olivia. MOAR Olivia please. 😌 She's the queen.

Give us the Lego segment highlights you heathens! I wanna be bricked up with the homies

Chrissy wake up, I don’t like this

i just think its weird that while her premise was to gain some sort of similarity, or common ground in regards to his OD, why would she end the video with "were not on the same plane"...?

this is one of Hila’s best looks ever

i love olivia’s power points! always get excited for these

Omg the crew shitting on trick shots is making me so frustrated while I laugh. I went so hard for those stupid dance killcams as a kid

Listen to the shift in his voice after she says she doesn’t like him. That definitely hurt his feelings 😂 43:59

Olivia should’ve went over the faze vs rain stuff because they completely don’t understand the context that led to grace being in the crossfire

Rain was completely in the wrong in this situation but i think the comment about his overdose was kinda fucked up from a moral standpoint but I don’t personally give a shit

Poor Olivia's always getting talked over on her powerpoint

we are gamer and I am 47 years old and it is so toxic people are crying out there, the faze crew are the worse

30:03 I’m tired of people acting like having connections is wrong. In my town farmers hire the people they know same with workers and companies. Why is it so bad for Hollywood? It’s the same concept

Is it an American thing to eat chilli con carne without any type of carb? As a Brit that’s SO WEIRD to me that she just ate a bowl of what I would consider sauce 🤔

Hila is so beautiful I love her so much also Olivia is my powerpoint queen. I love the education I am receiving.

😭😡how can you let people affect your emotions??😡😭

Love When liv gives us the class presentation

Chrissy definitely ain't mid. She's gorgeous

Olivia stays quiet af when they talk about nepo babies 😮‍💨😮‍💨

Can’t wait til Love gets here!!

the opioids thing makes it all make sense

Hila is so stunning

50:20 Join and Leave NASDAQ Any % Speedrun

Hila has been slayyyyyying lately

Olivia did a bad job at providing context that led to everything. Before grace

Ooh so he is on a wheelchair because of that overdose? I think this girl seems to be a very sweet person, but she shouldnt have touched a very sensitive topic like that

that was a reffernce to the movie this the end he just forgot about it

More Olivia powerpoints please!

Bring back Ian’s PowerPoints please

Hila looks amazing as always. I hope she’s doing this for herself and not the bullying she gets

Hard abuser vibes from this dude yipes

The only point that says faze rain has is that a professional Esports organization should be hiring strictly on the ability to play games at the highest level. However women have been stomped on and pushed out and not treated like equals in the gaming space when this is the one sport ever invented designed to be equal

Faze Down!

you guys do not know the full story

22:12 I need to know what happened with SSSniperwolf now

What does calling someone "mid" mean?

Faz was a failure and had to get bailed out.

Rain was trying to say that she did not make a good fit in faze, multiple times saying that he would not want his Mom, girlfriend or Drake in faze. People are let into faze knowing nothing about trickshotting is fucked honestly... THATS HOW IT WAS BUILT. Nobody in this video knows anything about faze.He is saying that because she was on stranger things This is the way faze is going... They Will recruit drake because they are a bunch of suit boomers. Anything for money into the company even if its disingenuous. This is a Very unprepared and misinformed interpretation of the whole thing. Nobody in this video was ever a OG faze fan and nobody here knows rain at all. Rain has stated he tried to go internally with all of this now he is exposing faze, while some of what he is saying is misdirected and mean hes gonna do it however He wants to do it, in His Own company... He built it.

The only thing I agree with Faze Rain on is that Stranger Things is kinda lame lol

I wish miz and ethan would do something together, anything, it would have to be something very silly

Hila don’t know what she talkin bout 😭

Faze’s actions are atrocious but she did make a couple errors here: first was putting out the video bringing up his overdose. That was a low blow let’s all be honest here. The second was when they were trying to squash beef for her to bring up that old tweet. I’m just trying to figure out what was the strategy here? If you’re trying to make peace you don’t come to the table and antagonize the other party like that. His response was also horrific but I’m confused what was the purpose of her going there anyways? I think deep down she didn’t want to make peace and was still upset(which she has every right to be) and wanted to still clap back at him. You would have to do some serious dirt digging to do back to find a now decades old tweet. And also what was the point? She proves he’s misogynistic(which he is clearly) and then he’s suppose to agree? Then what? Still on her side in this whole dispute tho.

i think they are both being ridiculous tbh

Fucking hell. Olivia’s research skills is about on par with a baked potato

i was here before any comments

55:45 Rain said they didn’t even ask members inside bruh

Love bot should have run this segment

Forgot this podcast is for people who are different

And them talking about trickshotting and clowning rain for that completely blew over there head faze literally came up from tirckshotting like that’s how they were know back in the day and being in faze not knowing what a trick shot is literally crazy like that’s what they are know for

get rekt with a hard R LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

🎉

if you ever have had legitimate suicidal thoughts you will know why that was fcked up. that sht doesnt feel like a joke when youre in it

It’s about taking good gamers that don’t have name for them self and giving them a name. Like imagine being a lil kid dreaming of joining faze and they come out with a recruit challenge faze5 and your grinding all day and getting on right after school to grind for clips and imagine doing all that for them to recruit GRACE like she already has a name for her self and don’t know shit about faze like y’all don’t understand it’s literally spitting in the those lil kids faces and saying you’ll never have a chance to join faze

Ig I can’t call women mid anymore with out being sexist 🤣

Like y’all watched Aiden Ross react to it and instantly said Aiden agreed with Grace when Aiden literally calls rain 5mins into the vid and talks to rains

calling someone mid isn’t misogynistic😭 if a guy called another guy ugly it would just be considered a mean comment, but when you call a girl mid it’s misogynistic, makes no sense

Beauty is subjective

if you haven’t been a fan of FaZe since the beginning then you’re missing a lot of context

Y’all sound like y’all never watched faze y’all are just milking this content like other faze members that shouldn’t have been recruited and other content creators

Gotta say. The thumbnail for this is so on point. Olivia showing us how she got the job.

Ethan is 100% factual in every sentence 🫡

Show the context actually? Nah?

the reason he seemed so hostile at the end is because he was super polite and apologetic in the beginning of the video until she kept making digs at him, she even said that she wanted to meet a troll in person meaning she wasn’t meeting up with him in good faith, she wanted to try and make him look bad which obviously pissed him off

I love h3 but they call guys gross and ugly and mid all the tim but once its a girl… and again. Makjng fun of his drug addiction/overdose vs calling someone mid is completely different realms….

Tough watch…

28k views 500 likes… losing fans quicker and quicker🤣🤣🤣

FaZe Rain’s entire point is that FaZe Clan is supposed to be the best gamers. That’s what FaZe was and should be, but the organization keeps bringing on people who aren’t good at gaming. Just because you like content of personality rather than watching the best of the best, doesn’t mean that they should be in FaZe. That take just missed the point. Saying that she admits that she’s not good at gaming but you like to watch that content anyways, means you know nothing about FaZe, who is this girl bro

There is no point to explain it to people who are different

I’m sorry, but Grace is a grown adult and y’all are treating her like a kid. While Rain handled this in a really shit way and his comment was definitely rooted in sexism. Rain treats it as just Shit talking and Grace takes it all personally and way deeper than he does. Rain doesn’t give af about the corporate part of Faze. Grace is part of that side of Faze. She was caught in the crossfire which she didn’t deserve, but like Rain said he would have said that to anyone that got signed. And yes the higher ups most definitely knew he was going to do this because he already shit talked the other celebrity signings. Grace said they didn’t tell her rain was already going at corporate signings. You guys legit skipped parts of the video with context on why he doesn’t see it as Sexism because he has thick skin since he was in that side of the internet culture and why he’s going so hard on this. Grace isn’t built for drama which is ok not everyone is and Rain should have picked up on that and toned it down, but he’s passionate about Faze and Grace apparently kept talking shit about him on stream so he said fuck it, he has free reign to keep talking shit back. I’m not saying what he did was right, but that’s how he sees it. Grace was definitely a corporate sign and that’s fine. Rain should have gave her a chance to see if she was actually going to be just another celebrity signing like Snoop, Bronny, Yachty and whoever or if she was going to be what he thinks a true Faze member should be. He’s not entitled to that at all, but he is a founding member and is tired of seeing his company keep going down this road. He isn’t doing any of this because he’s gatekeeping women, he’s trying to stop the useless signings of celebrities. Because he said that mid/drunkest night comment all of a sudden you guys are making it out to be this war on women in gaming. To my knowledge he never said anything when they signed Kalei. Kalei plays Call of duty and is pretty good, but I can’t find a video of him talking about her. I agree they need more women in gaming, but Rain doesn’t want anyone to be signed man or woman because they’re famous he wants them to be signed because they know what Faze use to stand for and that was GAMING. I do feel bad for Grace because she didn’t deserve any of this at all, but let’s not act like she isn’t an adult .She set this meeting up in the first place, and imo she folded because she couldn’t explain why she isn’t a corporate signing. All she had to say was Rain should have gave her chance before talking shit to see what she even was going to do because she does play Valorant and streams and imo that’s already way better than the other signings. But I get it The gaming culture does have a misogynistic/sexist problem. It’s very toxic towards women. Rain just didn’t think about it like that and had tunnel vision on criticizing a celebrity who happened to be a woman. Also they should have at least watched the entire video without skipping to get full context. Grace admitted what she said about Rains Drug abuse was in bad taste and seeing Hila trying to justify it was legit annoying because she did bring that up with bad intentions. All in all Rain handle this like an Idiot, but let’s not make this out be something that it’s not. Also Grace could have completely dunked on Rain using him as example one of Misogyny in gaming. Rain may not think this isn’t rooted in misogyny, but it’s so ingrained gaming and life it definitely can be interpreted as such and she not wrong for thinking it was.

Huge L by u lot