The First GBVSR Balance Patch Is Here (Patch 1.30) 

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cagadostro so funny

i dont know how it feels to others - but id say cag is perfect in terms of her balancing She doesnt feel weak, she doesnt feel broken, shes fun to play. Ive mained her in the old game - where she was among the top 3 characters, but had such a high skillceiling only 3 players were ever winning tournaments with her. And i still main her now. Its cool not having everyone complain about my character for once and instead about nier^

​@@EinManUoh yeah I agree. Cag has some very obvious weaknesses, but the stuff she specialises in she is VERY good at. Shes useless at defence, and if her setplay options are removed then she has no offence- but her pressure and screenplay is incredible.

@@EinManU She still has that trap extension post SBA, which I thought they would have addressed.

@@decksteroussnail consider that its cool though

Kat's buff is massive IMO. It already was a nightmare to get through her pokes. Now she can add fireball into huge damage combos from midscreen.

He has the biggest patch notes list. I don't get why Diaphone always forgets about that character.

Anre already took the spot of the most forgotten/least played character for most people so everyone forgets Vaseraga since he has nothing memorable like Anre

He def got buffed but nothing cool outside of the quicker stance cancels. He’s def one of the most improved chars tho

@@GS_CCC lmao yeah vas is just lost in the void

@Diaphone His changes are underrated but since you haven't done a "Getting Vas to Masters" yet, and there aren't any good video guides that are recent on him, I can absolutely see your point. The stance changes allow for different combo routes given the faster speed, being able to only hit forward once to go forward and guard to cancel is super huge. Think back to what the button shortcuts did for Giovanna and HC in Strive, this is very similar in essence. And the biggest change that I didn't think was as important but absolutely is, is that if his stance stomp hits an opponent, it forces them to stand. This means he can always connect with 22HL in the corner and get a combo when he doesn't have fireball active, or convert at a distance he couldn't before.

He isn’t bottom of the barrel, and he isn’t one of the best, so to most people he’s not worth acknowledging. A truly sad existence.

2B already had slower regain than the other characters since all of her skills were tied to 1 meter, she could use 2 of the same ones faster than someone else but everyone else has 4 EX's they could put on cooldown you could only use 2 before you went empty. It wasn't overpowered in any way. Honestly she's probably bottom 5-6 now, nerfing her meter nerfs everything about her. Her damage, her pressure, her set play, her neutral, it's just crazy how badly they nerfed her for no reason, especially since the overall power level in the cast is up this patch.

@@chaselewis5372 Should’ve played Siegfried. Also what’s the small waifu nearby him supposed to be?

I agree with @chaselewis5372, 2B didn't have any problems with her meter gain. if you've ever played 2B a minimum seriously, you'd see that her meter gain was actually not enough consistent, because of very high costs, resulting in 2B players often having to sacrifice "optimal combos" to do subpar versions of her combos just to preserve some of her meters. everything being tied on this meter means that if she doesn't have any meter at all, the only thing she can do is her auto-combos, auto-combos that are slow as shit, easily punishable, and 2B doesn't even have a 66L, meaning she can not pressure her opponent at all with no meters. the meter gain's huge nerf will just simply kill the character. people talking about how she's going to be bottom 5 but honestly, I think she may become bottom 1, even characters like ferry or soriz are probably better options now.

@@LecorbakOfficial Imagine paying money for a bottom tier whose entire gimmick is to do nothing.

@@justice8718 basically.

If you want her 2B good again, you’re 2B waiting for awhile.

“We saw you liked playing the new dlc character, so we’ve made sure she would never be good ever again.”

nerfs to 66l is a buff to 2b tho.

@@naquan59 2B has no combos anymore.

they're not gonna change the whole meta right before EVO japan.

maybe at the top level things aren't as different but it feels like a totally different game to me in S++ due to the 66L changes. on average rounds last a lot longer and it feels like there's a lot more of a neutral game.

Good choice, Zeta is so much fun to play as.

That's because Gran and Narmaya are honest

Because they are already strong

@@bassbusterx Hell nah they not lmao Hell Djeeta got a buff and she's considered better than BOTH of them. So Strength isn't the factor

Yeah just made her basically unplayable as her kit just doesn't function anymore.

Yes, because you don’t play 2B.

as long as you don't play 2B, the balance patch is pretty good overall.

what I like about the nier change is that it targets the part of nier kit that had no business being this strong while keeping her unique strengths intact

I think they're being careful and drip feeding buffs to her as she was quite dominant on the previous version.

Nah, keep that Dhalsim ass character outta my Granblue

AARRRVVEEEEEEEES

Genuinely shocked we get to keep getting away with murder lmao.

2B nerfs were unneccesary

Oh you gotta manage the resource now so sad

@@captainmega6310 Imagine if using a normal special and an ex special put all your specials in cooldown. I get that the recovery was initially too fast but now it's way too slow. It should at least recover more on hit.

@captainmega6310 There are no resources to manage 2B with.

@@justice8718 the SKL meter existing:

It takes 14.5 seconds of 2B doing nothing for her to regain her gauge. She’s bottom 1!

2B is literally the worst character in the game now. And she was b tier.

Gran and Djeeta already get massive combo conversions from midscreen. Katalina had trouble getting conversions off anything unless she had the opponent already in the corner.

cag is fine as she is, she doesn't need any buffs or nerfs.

@@LecorbakOfficial >cag is fine as she is, she doesn't need [...] nerfs April Fools is over, friend.

To say no money.

To make her that when you play her, you’re going 2B a loser.

@@justice8718 lol, good one.

@@havyn88 Well; that’s life 2B quite Frank, according to mortals.

@@justice8718 2B quite honest, she wasn't Nier broken enough to warrant that nerf. But Uno sometimes we can't know what the devs Gran plans are.

Actual buffs, probably.

People will still complain about her, especially players with bad matchup knowledge.Her noob killer whiff combos are still there and she can still spam moves that people deem "broken"... however she was pretty meh in high tier play before because she's not really plus on her moves and had to rely on specials to make them safe on block. A lot of top tiers have better kits than her by a mile, and I honestly didn't lose to her that much at S+ and S++. People would have an aneurysm if the actual top tier like Seox or Nier were more common in C rank or B. The only reason why 2B got flak is because of popularity and ease of use in low tier play compared to the actual top tiers.

@@redReiRei some asshole on steam pretends that she's too OP while telling me that he's like S++ on ranked. I didn't though it was that easy for noobs to be at this rank (or he's lying)

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⁠@@LecorbakOfficialNah that guy is a scrub. People can still be bad with fundamentals in S+/S++, especially with certain characters. It’s not an objective metric, especially when I play against S++ and didn’t have so many issues with 2B with a low tier character (can’t say the same for the actual S tiers which have all the tools to shut you down and remove your hp like crazy). 2B also became more rare after launch at higher ranks when people started adapting and actually punishing her. A lot of people just tend to fail the knowledge checks and blame balance. Nier players also complained about 2B, even though they had the OP reversal that did 60% damage and could pin down 2B. The current change to meter is a bit whack for 2B. They should at least make it recover normally when she gets hit/combo’d. Or give her a charge mechanic kinda like Tsubaki from Blazblue or Order Sol.

​@@redReiRei I agree with you, ranking means nothing. even if I'm A rank right now with my main (which is cag), I know what is strong or weak with a character I actually played with and trained. sure I may miss some things, but in the case of the management of 2B's jauge, you don't need to be S++ rank to see that 2B's jauge's recovery is important to not be actually low tier. people thinking that 2B's nerf was necessary are either trolls, 2B haters or hugely uninformed on the character because they don't play her. despite having bought the character, if 2B was "broken", I would be the first to call for a nerf as I'd rather have an healthy fighting game. but 2B wasn't even as good as top tiers or even high tiers on her state. even prepatch, I'd rather stick to cag instead of playing 2B. postpatch, I'd rather play lavida than 2B lol.

2B cursed yet again.

He eating good this patch

He got probably the 2nd biggest buff

@@Rannayamadadeadass??

@@yaboirichy deadass

I retract my statement, I saw the patch notes. 🙏

Imaging being a labber, and suddenly seeing that everything you’ve labbed out is going 2B completely unviable. Move on to another character if you want 2B happy.

Me when I subtly add white wild assault

@@VsolidLol that's true, maybe I should have said the Granblue team instead of ArcSys in general

Oh, God. Please don't awaken the PTSD that's still deeply rooted after playing 2B in SC6.

did they nerf her hard there too? was she top tier?

@@crowplays6426 end of S1 she was top 10. Currently shes in the bottom half of the roster.

@@crowplays6426 She actually didn't get nerfed in SC6, people just figured out how to play against her. A large part of her kit was able to be parried for literally zero risk because the empty cancel options had to much recovery. So people found out you basically could late parry a lot of places against her pressure and just completely negate 90% of her gameplan for literally 0 risk. Her stance pressure which was the vast majority of gameplan became a worthless gimmick. Her basic pokes were weaker than average so that left her in a bad place. Legitimately nerfing 2B in any way at this point when people are still learning the matchup and she wasn't considered OP is just idiocy.

​@@chaselewis5372 Ehh it was definitely a mix of her legitimately getting nerfed in SC6 (oki, setplay, damage scaling etc) as well as (some) top players like Skyll actually labbing and really getting better with reacting to things like 22K series, Aerial Leap A+B series etc. for guaranteed punishes. Not to mention they buffed her bad matchups a bit too much (like Tira, nightmare etc.) while also releasing DLC afterwards who countered her pretty hard (like Setsuka, Hwang sort of etc.) which made her matchup spread even more lopsided. Her guard damage and stacking Analysis Points ended up becoming her main win condition, while stance got relegated to something that should be used in very short bursts. Me and Raizen did find new workarounds and soul attack setups for somewhat true oki (albeit with still some counterplay for the opponent), but most people (even high level) don't bother learning against her and die to level 1 gimmicks or fail to punish blatantly punishable tools and just complain still when she's generally considered bottom 5 now by even previous haters turned co-mainers taking her for a spin (Sams, Blade of Flame etc.) and learning the tech and counters courtesy of yours truly. Guess some things never change. But yeah, nerfing her SKL like they did is a rather strange direction. Gonna hold out hope on the Beatrix patch rolling back at least one of the SKL nerfs, but eh.... who can say what's gonna happen. 5U netting punishes on 66L now is great though at the very least but her gameplan now seems to over emphasize whiff punishment but with much more constrained resource for pretty much everything else in neutral and setplay. General creativity with her options defo took a serious hit.

the 66L nerf kinda helps Ladiva and 2H being a launcher is good too. The anti-air grab range is also a nice touch, less likely to miss people with it. But the matchups are still going to be mostly ass against characters with zoning ability. Zeta in particular is kinda awful because she didn't get any real nerfs, and still does 60% or more damage from mid range without risk. Metera was buffed too, and Ladiva still doesn't have any anti-projectile move apart from her super lariat (which is quite tricky because doing it at the wrong time equals easy dodge punish and 50% less meter). Honestly I feel kinda annoyed that they didn't buff her anti-zoning tools, because it's so easy to shut her down with certain characters.

Some would say ass.

" but atleast this patch didn't fuck up anything" as long as you don't play 2B

@@LecorbakOfficial ok, fair point i guess. i can't say how impactful this change is and if she was in any form unhealthy for the game, regardless of being not even that good overall. let's just hope this change was made to collect data, see how she is played now and how to help her out in other ways. yes, i know, usually this is not how things really turn out to be... but overall, i feel like the changes to dash lights could benefit her quite a lot. in general, characters with good buttons and keepout playstyle would like it.

@soramercusry7074 Good luck seeing a 2B player win now.

You mean she’s going 2B even worse.

Think another big issue is that she regains the meter a lot slower while being hit/combo’d. I can see that being quite an annoying situation when you used all your meter, since unlike other characters her DP uses 4 skl bars+50 meter. Maybe they should make the recovery normal on damage taken.

@@redReiRei Wait, really?! I thought it would've been normal on being hit. Yeah, no that's just cruel! If other characters build meter when being hit, she should have normal meter gain AT LEAST, when being hit.

You’re the reason 2b got nerfed 😭😭

said the non-2b player

idk, even as yuel, punishing yolo whiff cancels felt alright. Just gotta go for any medium or heavy since her whiff cancel followups have light priority so you can crush them pretty consistently. Can see it being a problem for the lower levels of play I suppose, meanwhile the cag and zeta nation kinda had me desensitized to air stalls as is. Feel like they should've held off for another patch since counterplay is still being developed and people's reactions and practice still weren't up to par to really punish gimmicky things like her unblockable setup, 22L cancel etc. Just feels like the adjustments to SKL don't really make much sense.

@@velkielle7587 "Feel like they should've held off for another patch" ^ this nerfs should never be taken too quick.

The character with slow normals needed 2B nerfed for the characters with faster normals to win even more.

@@justice8718Except the nerfs don't really change much in that regard. The 66L universal nerf actually makes her neutral stuff even better. The meter nerf affects combos and pressure really. They could've nerfed the whiff normals and neutrals, but they didn't - so people will still hate her while she's basically having pretty big issues against the top tier or zoners. She doesn't have a meterless reversal either or even a guard point to abuse, so she was already pretty squishy before the patch. By that same logic we should nerf Metera because she has oppressive zoning against slow low tier characters like Ladiva. But yet she's C tier because she struggles against rushdown characters like Lance or Soriz.

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touch grass bro lmao

What carries more weight, changes to system mechanics or changes to chars?

What are you even talking about?

bro is just yappin

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