You forgot that with defamation, not only does the statement need to be false, you need to prove that the defendant KNEW it was false. If they are just wrong or misled/misinformed, it's not defamation. This is EXTREMELY difficult to prove.
Not just that, you have to prove the defendant knew the statement was false AND that the person stated the false claim to damage a person’s reputation. and in a lot of places, a victim will not get a single cent if there was no genuine harm done to their reputation (and losing friends & being bullied online doesn’t count as a damaged reputation)
@@JimmiJam I know, I was just adding additional info he missed about that particular point. Essentially, You need to prove that a lie was told to cause damages and that it did so. There are 3 very difficult things to prove embedded in this. A) proving that someone knowingly lied. B) proving they lied in order to cause tangible damages. C) that the damages occured and were a direct result of the lies. This is trickier than it seems, as it means that if you were fired/not hired for something, you need it on record that the lies were the reason. You need to prove 3 separate things that should exist entirely in People's minds, if said people have any sense at all. Everyone needs to be monumentally stupid for the plaintiff to have a record of any of this, much less all of it. If any one person in this chain, keeps their mouth shut on why/if they lied, or why an employer fired the plaintiff, or these things are only communicated verbally, the case is kaput.
@misses elise doesn't personal reputation not matter in the court of law? I know that In alot of places there has to be provable monetary loss along with the internet to cause said loss via dissemination of falsehoods that the person knows is a falsehood.
@@gestaltblitz8296 defamation lawsuits are to recover monetary payments for losses caused by defamation. someone bullying you on the internet isn’t directly responsible for any loss of wages and cannot be held responsible for it
I hate when there are legitimate groomers and pedos in many communities, people still need to make up BS on innocent people for clout. This is disgusting.
yeah, our human society has reached to a point this to them is "normal" if we were to continue going to that direction, its bound to bring danger to our human race heck, even distruction and violence.. We really need to go back
It's scary to know that your life could be upended because one person decides to record you in public and post it to TikTok. Sure, you can put out information on people that either run off or dodge legal consequences. But you can also spread false information super easily. This is actually a common tactic to, where online crazies and their journalist friends will repeat the same labels over and over to smear someone, with most having no money to fight back (e.g., J.K. Rowling got someone to retract their comment on her because she actually threatened to take them to task in court over it). Twitter's the same place where a 19 year-old will be called a predator for dating a 17 year-old, or where someone tall will be called a predator because of their short, young-looking partner, despite being close (if not the same) in age. If it's not a problem people can throw tweets and online doxxes at they don't care to engage.
@@grimsyn8174 That you know of. Maybe what Valid posted is less than truthful now but it's only a matter of time before something similar comes out against Blue that he have to admit isn't made up.
I don’t know how to feel about this one. Fabricating life ruining allegations and going out of your way to target the person’s parents is pretty evil IMO
@@SomeOrdinaryJanitor Sorry Timmy, your bias doesn't apply to everyone and you can't wish death upon anyone that remotely like anthropomorphic animals. Stop trying to shove your shitty opinion down people throat like the sjw.
@@SomeOrdinaryJanitor Tom literally said that was fake when you watch the entire video. You can't be out here saying stuff like this without knowing all the details :/
I think people need to be taken to task on these things, but most don't have the time and money to do it. You can't just call people sexual predators as an insult or some off-hand remark. That's literally the kind of thing someone might harm or outright kill you in public for (and we all know pedophiles don't last long in prison if they're put with the general population). To paraphrase what Mike Tyson said, people have gotten too comfortable disrespecting others and not getting punched in the face for it.
Bro literally made their "community" logo based off of the yahztee party flag... (edit 1:, its not necessarily a 1 to one inspiration, but fascism is written all over it, tbh.)
good. Harm is the only way to stop this degenerate bullshit. Mental or in extreme cases physical. You know why we have furries now and didnt before? Yeah, the zero tolerance for bullying. People dont know whats cringe or acceptable anymore. They never got laughed at and felt bad for shit they did that WAS BAD. So now we have these fuckin weird fks all over the place.
@@whitepaperkat67 gonna be honest with you, that kind of means you shouldn't be in any community at all, because every community will inevitably have drama
@@Scruffy-qi3ik yeah and that's why I'm done being part of communities or collectives I'm a Linux guy and a closeted furry, but I do not associate myself with both of those communities
Even if people hate furries or trans people, they should at least care about the fact that this just makes this harder for real victims of grooming. Valid Ls used the experience of victims to troll someone he doesn’t know. For clout.
people like him deserve to go through what Junko Furuta went through, not even joking. These failed abortions are always safe behind their screens, reusing the same insult/joke about fatherless people, not realizing how hypocritical they are. Especially the transphobic subhumans
I think you have legal grounds if someone is trying to falsely claim you're a sex offender. Should be an easy case if you have the evidence of them conspiring to defame you. That stuff will ruin your chance of being employed and in some places will definitely get you stabbed.
This is true. You do have to claim financial damages otherwise, but (and I believe this is the case unless I'm misconstruing this with another aspect of defamation, and if I am it might be the "actual malice" caveat) there can be cases where the claim is so egregious that the court assumes that there was damage anyway, which is usually the case for extreme statements like stating someone has an STD, or is a sexual offender, things that can actually get them ostracized or stigmatized in society.
@@Gunblazer42 Yeah you wouldn't need to prove damages for a case like this. Honestly if they took the guy to court, it'd probably be a slam dunk, but you would have to consider that you have to convince a jury that a furry is right about anything XD
@rexminer001 Yes and it's wild, she literally got accused of being a pedophile and got doxxed. My comment wasn't hate, furry drama is always either very wild or very petty.
@@neilisawesome2333 'Only Twitter'. There are certain communities in Twitter that communicate different in correlation with their niches. Furry culture on twitter, and in seeming congruity with Art-Twitter. Other communities are much more accommodating, and peaceful, they're just the silent minority lately. This rings true for really any social media platform. The idea that even 90% of people on a platform are somehow unreasonable or shitty is disingenuous, and hyperbole.
It was obvious from the start that Valid L's only objective was to get under the skin of the people he was targeting, the fact that the furry/trans community celebrated a frivolous lawsuit which had very little chance of actually going through just gave Valid L's more reason to keep going. He achieved what he seeked to do
Common misconception. Doxing is both illegal and legal. It's only illegal to post private info in a dox. But it is legal to post public info. So it can be either or depending on the circumstances. Doxing can fall into 2 categories. Posting public info which is legal and posting private info that was never publicly posted which is illegal. If you dox someone it could be legal or illegal depending on what it was. So it makes it a legal gray area.
If it's publicly available info, it's not doxxing. That said, show me where sharing private information is illegal? If I posted your name and address or phone number into this comment section, what law would I be violating?
@thereisnocat9496 RU-vid is a US company and therefore must follow US Laws anyone committing a crime under US law can be trialed by US Courts even if you aren't a citizen of the US (that's part of international law). Doxing the act of posting information not on the public domain (private information) is illegal under the US Invasion of Privacy Laws. If you dox someone on platforms run by US companies the US courts are well within their rights to charge you with a crime.
@@BumboLooksbecause people did some fucked up things to her. Like people made fake screenshots of her saying racial slurs to get her cancelled. You can not like her but dont do stuff like that to people its really sad considering she was like 15.
@@UMAtronic You think that's messed up? That would be traumatizing for a six year old. But 15 years old? lol get lost. 1) Nobody cares about racial slurs if they are directed towards white people. Everyone is racist. Everyone is accused of being racist. It doesn't mean anything anymore. 2) Creators/streamers love positive and negative attention because it brings them more views. 3) Forever online people that play games designed for autists are professional victims and attention seeking sociopaths that greatly exaggerate the importance of what they do and should just be ignored. 4)Grow up please.
Yo, im the one who made the initial Bluefolf video. I told her there was a large chance you would cover the situation, im glad to see that you were amicable about things. Blue hasn’t touched a dime, shes shown me bank statments. GFM is just slow with these things. She really was just unaware of the difficulties in a legal battle. When “just sue them!” Is the default twitter response to defamation, its easy to overestimate your ability to go through the legal process.
It's a shame that he has no idea how the laws are applied since 99% of shit he said was wrong. Posting a fake image showing someone being a pedophile when you 100% know it's fake is defamation. Literally called a pedo. The fact that L has a audience he knew full well what would happen. Considering he is a troll account, who flocks to trolls? Other trolls. There is 0% chance that L did not think he would start an harassment campaign by sharing false screenshots.
Bro, what the hell. I love trolling. I do it myself sometimes... But I would never go this far like hurting innocent people and I don't support that kind of stuff. That shit is cruel. I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I knew I just hurt someone innocent like this. It's sickening. My thoughts go out to Blue. Stay strong.
Oh man, I remember seeing this pop up in one of the discord servers I'm in. Doesn't matter which side you're on, if you try to fake evidence against someone and try to destroy their reputation, you're a horrible person who should never be allowed to use the internet ever again.
This was actually kind of an eye opener. I disliked furries (Though I never really acted against them because I'm not *that* much of an asshole), but seeing how blue was treated by their own parents when there wasn't even any evidence, I kinda feel bad now. I of course still think furries are weird and cringey, but its better than ruining their lives for gits and shiggles
I have never, ever understood hating or disliking furries, ever. Thinking they're weird or cringe? Sure, I can understand that, everything somebody does is going to be weird and cringe to atleast one other person, but disliking an entire group of people because they partake in a harmless hobby? I can't. I don't understand how anybody can hate/ dislike a group of people who aren't hurting anybody because they share a hobby, or a trait, or whatever.
@@tuxtitan780 I can understand disliking, because finding a hobby extremely cringey or weird goes hand in hand with finding everyone who partakes in it extremely cringey or weird. Hate, or actively wishing harm against them, is pretty insane though.
its genuinely disgusting that someone would contact her PARENTS about this lie. if this was done to any other normal female influencer there would be an uproar, but since that she's a furry (and trans), people dont care or assume she 'deserved it'. what a horrible world we live in.
The uploader literally said they hate furries. Dunno why you're here looking at someones opinion that clearly never through a lawyer and has ZERO understanding of the law.
id like to add on a recent fortnite video (i play fortnite) someone commented that they hate anime collabs (fortnite is getting jujutsu kaisen soon) so i responded "stop whining switch games oh wait the fortnite community is bad cuz they believe racism nazisim sexual harassment sexual assault sexualphobic behaviour and MANY bad things to be fun and jokes" people were MAD for that and attacked me so i openly admitted to be a gay male weeby german furry (which triggered them further) and they fought me thru arguement to arguement with me always winning since none of them wanted to prove me wrong or explain anything whenever i asked for it (to add i got over 19000 party royale matches i have A TON of stories so if any want one just ask) back to the current line i am still being attacked by people for that and i always answer now "u got 19k pr matches and saw it all? nah? prove me wrong then" instant drop and dead silence gotta love how disgusting self centered and egotist people get and instantly ghost u if u cant be beaten by them i added that humanity is failing and id rather be my fursona to which i got hate from the haters which i simply responded with "my bad haters a furry helped develop the covis vaccine what yall doin? if furries dropped their work bye bye wifi thats how many work in IT, atleast 25% of all military are furries who wanna get the serving money for their fursuit cuz it costs between 3000 and 20000 bucks" "eeeh u wrong/false/ur a furry u got no opinion" "ok prove me wrong oh wait google it an be surprised" dead silence cuz they cant win like wtf they trying? furry haters wanna cosplay as hunters or soldiers wanting to shoot furries aka committing manslaugher murder (and warcrimes for the soldier ones) of a hobby and cosplay "eeeh being a furry and cosplaying are diffrent" "kk lemme cosplay as the furry character blaidd from elden ring oh look cosplaying as a furry" "eh if u like cosplaying as a furry u got no life" "oh didnt u say cosplaying and being a furry are diffrent suddenly it fits together" dead silence 200 IQ of the haters sry for the paragraph hope this gives some insight on how bad the haters can get
adding btw! my brother works for the bundeswehr (basically military and he trained me in stealth and scouting so i know how hard the military training just for these 2 is and lemme tell ya ITS HARD AS HELL) and then seeing these haters wanting to act as soldiers without knowledge of how hard it is to be trained and then the serving by actually killing others to protect ur homeland they will never understand how hard it is or will be but haters be acting high mighty and as always being better but this person here did a video on this he doesnt like furries but doesnt downgrade them either he is going neutral and exposes both sides so im quite ok this such u dont gotta like furries or love furries even if ur an anti furry (i have an anti furry friend) when a furry approaches u simply tell them "im sorry i dont like furries could u leave me alone?" (my anti fur friend and this are his words! "idc what u furries do idc how kinky yall get leave me alone with that shit and we good") most furries will understand and just leave u alone
@DoggyBingBong I'm gonna assume that isn't true, because you just made a statement which is seemingly completely random. But even if it was, how is that anything more than weird? It's not morally wrong to do, it's just weird and (frankly) disgusting. IF that's true, which I seriously, seriously doubt, because obviously people have no problem making up stuff about this person, why is it a bad thing, and how does it speak to their character?
Trolling is one thing, intentionally trying to ruin someone’s life by lying about something they did is another. The internet and social media has made people too comfortable with being pieces of shit. Sadly, Blue doesn’t really have any solid material for an actual case to succeed.
All of this would have been avoid had twitter actually enforced their ToS about harassment and hate speech. But since Elon owns it, you can harass any trans person you want and face no punishment from twitter. Which is upsetting because many of us just want to be online and connect with others without having to be targets of PoS like Valid Ls. I've legit reported people making threats of violence against trans people just being trans and twitter tells me that nothing was wrong with the tweets. If that doesn't tell you how twitter views us, then I don't know what will.
One screenshot of (fake, but unknown to be) messages to their father and he cuts off contact from them immediately? Seems like he was looking for an excuse... Edit: People pointed out later in the video they had history with their dad, I made the comment before I saw that, sorry 😅
i mean theyre probably boomers that dont use the internet much or have any idea of how things can be faked. i wouldnt say thats really indicative of anything
Ngl I'm a furry and I watch your videos. Many furries are cringe, but who isn't a little? No one deserves to get attacked for their interests or for being cringe. This whole situation is unnecessary.
This is actually my position almost everyone has something about them that's "cringe" but there is no real defining point of "cringe". It's almost all subjective.
@@Eternatus001. Nothing definitively wrong with nsfw anthro characters, most of the furry community isn't into that stuff either way. 2. Cmon everybody grooms minors lighten up a little.
@@forciblefollower this person would on ironically trying argue that they fight in favour of human decency and progress and yet they threatened to kill anyone who would even suggest that they are wrong
Tom, love your work dude- but this isn’t “expressing opinion” when it’s a genuine hate crime. Falsifying one of the most serious allegations just because someone identifies as being trans is a legitimate hate crime and might as well be an attempt to sign a death warrant. This goes beyond expressing an “opinion” and that person should not be entitled to a platform for spreading genuinely hateful ideology. This isn’t some leftist crying- this is genuinely dangerous to promote
yeah i kind of checked out when he said that validls is just trolling and expressing and opinion. im transgender myself and for (almost always cis) people to say that its just an opinion is.. well really fucking gross and deeply uncomfortable for me. people who spread disinformation and actively harm queer people SHOULD NOT HAVE A PLATFORM!
This is genuinely the most sanest comment here. People should stop dismissing borderline *bigotry* as “”trolling””. This isn’t trolling, this is becoming a hate crime. Falsifying claims such as P*DOPHILIA of all things should at least have someone deplatformed if not at least sued (to some degree, court work is a pain I’m sure.) ValidL’s shouldn’t get the pass of “don’t give them attention it’s what they want” when what they NEED is to be kicked off of Twitter and every other platform they have that spreads this hateful thinking.
And this is why twitter is the cesspit of the internet and I don't go on twitter. Some of the stuff from twitter is funny, but the majority is idiocy, bigotry and politically motivated aggression.
UPDATE: Bluefolf stole approximately half of the gofundme donations and blew it all on a new fursuit & a trip to FWA. Another day, another furry scam. Puppychan 2.0 lmao
The line you were trying to remember is called Hanlon's Razor. It usually goes "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."
@@MyouKyuubi A very hot take since the consensus right now is that autism is a gift and autistics are protected minorities who think the whole universe revolves around them. That makes the old 8chan takedown funny because it was populated almost entirely by autistic males.
@@BumboLooks Yea dude 100% of the furry twitter population is fu cking animals xD With autism xD Theres more malic in your comment than there is on twitter in general xD
LMAO, i love the way your mind works, dude, i'd love to see that too... Just the reaction of the jury of normies just going "What the fck am i looking at? ಠ_ಠ"! xD
I just dont get how people can respect someone's "opinions" when they literally go against a whole communitys existence and safety and rights. Those "opinions" can cause so much harm, they shouldn't be respected and allowed to circulate.
I think there was a group of them called the burned furs or something I heard about in some random documentary on the creatures. Not sure if they still exist.
As a furry for over 15 years, I NEVER understood why furs would want to get big or popular. This shit is crazy. The drama isn't worth it. You can be a fur and not be the target for fake accusations if you just act like a decent person and not an attention craving you know what.
@@thisisobviouslybait Na, not true honestly. I have met plenty in my life that were beyond decent, truly. I know it's not a common perception and you are completely in the right to your opinion.
Remember, just because harassment slowed down doesn't mean people don't still harass and attack furries for no reason. Also, everyone should have the right to push for public fame, just becuase you're a furry shouldn't change that, we got rights you know. Absolutely no one should be sharing doctored screenshots making you out as a pedophile. ValidL KNEW what he was doing. He KNEW his community and he KNEW what kind of havoc it'll cause.
@@thisisobviouslybait yup and that's why there has been multiple shootings at furry based events where kids, innocent parents, and normal everyday people were attending. Sounds like completely "decent person" behavior to me. People like you make me sick, you completely disregard actual hate crimes by "decent people". Do better.
@@palletblossom1882And there have been multiple shootings in schools and in churches. Does the education system make you sick? Does the religious aspect of the church make you sick? No, because that would be a stupid thing to say. So why does one psychopath with a gun immediately make you “sick” of an entire community? As you have stated, i’ll tell you. Do better. Don’t be a blind hate filled narcissist.
Okay I hate furries but jeez, getting a minor doxxed is crazy. I thought ValidL's knew right from wrong. Sure I can sometimes be a little homophobic and furryphobic but I genuinely think a person apart of lgbtq, furry community, or even IS a furry should NEVER be harassed like this. I feel bad for Blue to be honest, and I might even start supporting him. Depends.
I feel bad for blue as she didn’t deserve this in the first place. I agree with most statements in the video. I don’t think blue is a scammer I just think she could’ve took care of the situation differently. Valid Ls definitely shouldn’t even be doing this in the first place but there’s not much we can do about it.
@@ogbobbyjohnson7788 bro, f off, you dont know how it feels to not like your body, she doesn't feel good as a male, and she isn't hurting anyone by being trans, and also, you can change your biological gender, just gotta use a bit of science and money
He actually did that? I am not surprised. Stuff that usually happens like this on Twitter usually result in money being wasted on luxuries instead of something more important to a person.
- It takes slightly over a week to refund donations on gofundme, so we still don't know if the donations were refunded - Taking a hotel trip after getting doxxed doesn't necessarily mean anything I'm not denying that this could be possible, but we don't know anything about whether or not it was a scam
@@furcornmanwiththemasterpla8380 he withdrew 4000 dollars from his account to his bank account. The reason is, he clarified that people can contact him personally and send proof that they sent money so that he can send them money back personally. Now the reason you do this is because people just won't bother to do it .
Well because many furries share similar traits and childhood trauma. Most actions that are the same throughout childhood lead to the same characteristic changes in the individual.
@VisionaryPill childhood trauma comes in many many forms. That happens to be my wheel house and my line of work. This has hints of self identity problems, social problems, anxioty, addiction and unhealthy and unsafe practices. Trauma gets you to the door, society opens it.
I remember scrolling through Twitter and seeing all of this and people keep saying it was a scam and no one is getting their money back and it hasn’t even been the time for it to be refunded
Sometimes I am surprise how young this people are, I was at university when I was 19, almost no interaction online beacuse of work, and yet all this people found a way to destroy everything in so many ways
I love that message you put at the end. People need to quit just assuming every mistake someone made is evil and ask if maybe they were mistaken or just did something dumb. Or at least find evidence it was intentional before jumping to cancelling.
That’s very true, but there needs to be a point where these aren’t harmless mistakes and someone legitimately going out of their way to be malicious, and ValidL’s has crossed that limit a WHILE ago.
@@midnightrose_ Passing IS required, that's like the entire point of being trans, to pass as the opposite sex, so you'll stop feeling dysphoric, or feel LESS dysphoric. :P It's not about convincing yourself, it's about convincing others that you're female, because if people don't SEE you as the opposite sex, that makes you feel dysphoric. So yeah, passing is pretty much required, otherwise, you're not trans, just a self-obsessed n*rcissistic autogynephiliac creep like most self-proclaimed trans people are. :P Just because you claim to be trans, doesn't mean you are trans... Same way anyone can claim to be disabled, without actually being disabled, or claim to be a tree, without actually BEING a tree. xD use your head.
Doxxing is a Crime in several states. however in the remaining states they can be charged with something called Menacing by Stalking. So depending on your prosecutor, Yes, you can be tried for doxing.
Twitter could be held liable. For the 47 protection you can't moderate the content and Twitter does some very heavy moderating of content. So there is a case for Twitter to be held liable.
Twitter furries are something else, as a furry going on 7 years, its hard to watch all these other furs make stupid decisions, especially the younger members of the fandom, I've just usually kept to myself and the few other furry friends I interact with. Aside from a yearly convention I don't interact with the general furry community, too much cringe going on for my tastes.
craziest part: Hezbollah got involved on this drama, and they address about their involvement against BlueFlof. But I'm not 100% sure about this involvement of Hezbollah on drama
So we got a cringy furry vs an actual evil person, pick your poison, i pick the cringy weird furry, because being cringe worthy doesnt mean they deserve what they got, I really do not understamd why people get mad at something so relatively harmless
i pick Valid. Valid didn't do the doxxing, firstly, and also ALLL OF THIS COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED BY NOT ENGAGING IN RP WITH SOMEONE HE THOUGHT WAS A MINOR!!! pretty fucking important detail i'd think...
@@SomeOrdinaryJanitor SHE got framed that she was doing those things, dummy. She didnt talk to any minors, Valid L's purposely set her up to look like a groomer you idiot, it was confirmed in a couple of telegram chats.
Off topic, and i know you have to play the game. But, it drives me up a wall that these days we have to censor certain words to "protect" people. Curse words, yeah maybe per your choice but the others is just plain stupid.
I dont really think blue did anything wrong. she just was in over her head and I do think a certain amount of action should be done against ValidLs. that shit can get you killed
I like libs of tiktok, I like anti-left satire, it's funny to me. But as soon as they make fun of the dead or intentionally defame someone it's too far.
libs of tiktok is known to harass people with their posts. it's fine if you are right-leaning even if i don't agree with you and if you don't know/support how libs of tiktok harasses people, but just so you know
@@TitaniumTurbine same as people who say we should kill all rich people and cops. or when people say they would like to segregate white peopel away from the public. its some dumbasses cheering on something its not a crime or even real
To my understanding, Libs of TikTok just reposts information others put out without much commentary. However, ValidLs seems far more malicious and outright bigoted. I only know him through this video, so I could be wrong, but I don't see anything informative about his tweets. Just fishing for stories to dunk on his political opposition for and laugh at. It's no different than leftist accounts that just post conservative losses all day or something.
Thank you for clarifying that the miniscule gross people on the internet give furries and trans people a bad reputation, and also calling out this assumptive slanderous behavior. More people open their eyes and realize that being a furry or trans is just a part of identity and doesn't make people do demented things, and that anyone who still thinks this way clearly hasn't met a furry or trans person in real life.
Sure. It's just PURE CO-INCIDENCE, the endless stream of furries exposing themselves as p-doughs and/or animal abusers. And I TOTALLY agree- Grown men inviting themselves into the changerooms where 6yo girls undress is not concerning AT ALL. It's perfectly normal to believe that WISHING transforms men into women!!! I, too, care more about affirming grown men's fetishes, than I care about the safety and privacy of women and girls... or about simple, evidence-based truth...
@@baconsarny-geddon8298 Oh no! Think of the kids!!!!! Do you think kids include fetuses too, Bacon Sarny-Geddon? Also, look up the facts, there's more evidence showing cis men being ped0s than transwomen..................
Further proof that victims of child grooming are nothing more than a tool to some of these "They're after our kids!" types. And they'll never take accountability for the slow devaluing of words like groomer, either. Pitiful.
One question i have in all this is if you think this person has a mental illness that causes them to think they are the opposite sex or gender then why troll them constantly and harass them even if it is the internet? Like do you do go after people with parnoid schizophrenia and dox them too for being mentally ill?
Valid Ls sounds like the voice in my head, very familiar, jokes aside, they'd probably make someone go over the edge who actually is delusional, which won't end peacefully for either themselves or other people around them
I don't understand these popufur accounts in general sometimes, im not sure how they generate such a large community of fans, but its usually young folk who follow them which is easy for some creeps to abuse. Sadly a lot of people will believe this stuff. faking someones grooming and shit is disgusting
@@Binglesquirk the things about them and their shit fetishes landed in my twitter dms unwanted from my friend so yeah i know who it was. Either way why respond to 2 months old comment? Im not gonna change my opinion either way. The furry community is not as good as everyone makes it up to be
Re: the legality of doxxing, it's legal because most of the time the people being doxxed shared that info themselves and can no longer consider it private/personal information. People use their real names online, share the city or state they live in, or even talk about the company they work for by name. All the public info found as a result of what you share is perfectly legal to share with others as long as there is no call to violence (and yes, those cheeky "I hope nobody does xyz" captions do count as calls to violence). If you only use pseudonyms and go to great lengths to hide your ID online but you get doxxed anyway, that could be considered illegal because you did not want that info to be public.
Calls to violence are protected by the first amendment Just like it's illegal to say "I'm going to kill the prez" but it's legal to say "someone should kill the prez"
actually its because you have no privacy interest in your adress. the minute a 3rd party gets involved that interest is pretty much forfeit. if it weren't publishing phone books would have been a crime. rekeita law actually did a full explanation of why that is the case but that's the gist.
@@elrojogrande744 Did someone say that addresses were private info? I'm only seeing your response even though youtube is telling me there's 2🤷♀ Anyway yeah your home address is public info, but no one would be able to find your home address if you don't use your IRL name online or share any other identifying information.
@Chica De i was correcting you on why it is not illegal. the reason you gave is actually incorrect from the legal perspective. its not illegal because you have no privacy interest in your adress, not because you would have to reveal other information for it to be found. thats not how the law works.
I swear, there is no such thing as a strong case for Defamation. If I was a lawyer I would NEVER take on a case that only had the charge of defamation. It is one of the hardest things to sue for. You have to prove intent and that the person behind the defamation knew for a fact that what they were saying isn't true. This is why defamation is most often brought up in court cases when there are multiple charges to put against someone instead of defamation on its own. Someone could have what they consider strong evidence of defamation, however, there are just too many issues with it. I know that at least in the United States, when going to court something has to be proven without doubt which is difficult to do in anything that is he said/she said situations. You can claim that someone had the intent to defame you, but that's not enough. And if the Jury or judge can't be one hundred percent convinced of intent, if there is even a small hint of doubt, then the case technically can't be won. If you're suing for defamation, it's best as just one charge out of multiple or at least two. Make sure the other charge is strong enough, because defamation on its own is going to be one hell of a thing trying to prove.
Lol that's rctarded. 99.99% of the time, the """criminal""" would be THE SAME PERSON AS THE VICTIM. Doxing is virtually always info the "victim" *CHOSE* TO MAKE PUBLIC. Nobody can EVER dox info that you DON'T PUT ONLIN5
As a far right republican Ima say this valids L needs to be taken there so stupid and ridiculous sorry your going through this I pray life goes better for her
There's no such thing as a "far right republican", they're technically center left by objective political standards. The only people who think Republicans are "far right" are those who listen to CNN and MSNBC or worse. Sincerely, someone who is actually "far right".
idc who its on or who does it, but if you fake dms to ruin someone's life/paint them as a creep You should just line up against the wall and close your eyes, its absolutely disgusting that people do this no matter who its targetting.
@@Purplethingyt Yeah, idc about like being homophobiv or transphobic but the second you pull what they did, you earn everything coming to u like a chomo in prison bring the pin cushion for the convicts
@@alicemalice1047 To be fair, if someone's slandering you as a pedophile, they're basically setting you up to be killed. You don't come back from a sex offense against kids, and there's plenty of people that claim they'd brutally off someone for that, even if they risk jail time. Even if you serve your time, there's people that would probably kill you after you got out, or try to send you back. I'm not saying such sentiments are wrong (we are talking about sex crimes against kids after all), but this is the whole reason why everyone is SUPPOSED to have their own day in court. It's a pretty common sentiment to have someone be punished with whatever punishment they tried to get imposed on someone else (e.g., false accusers of rape getting the same time the falsely accused rapist would've gotten).
