peter (nicholas hoult) and hugo (freddie fox) seems to not agreed on their conditions, catherine (elle fanning) leads them with and to be at peace. stream "the great" now only on hulu. huzzah!
Well aint that the truth! Although, I can think of several of other leaders In history who should have been overthrown by their wives(Catherine of Aragon, anyone?)
Well after Peter's close brush to death when he was poisoned, he started listening to Catherine so well she basically had him wrapped around her finger, as you can see in this scene.
this entire scene is basically the ladies being over and done with the men and going like "ok enough of your tantrums, you both need to stop behaving like overgrown children" and boom a deal
Catherine was something else in this scene!! She maneuvered the peace treaty of Russia and Sweden and came up with a brilliant plan on how to stop the war that would benefit both the countries without making the emperor look dumb and useless.. In a way everybody wins!!
Please tell me why. It's funny in general but how is it especially funny for Swedes? I have been wondering about how Swedes thought of how this conflict was portrayed.
@@jakewilliams2497 There has never been a King Hugo of Sweden. The character is entirely fictional, and mostly a hodgepodge of various attributes of Frederick I, Adolf Frederick, and Gustav III. Saint Petersburg was lost to Peter the Great during the Great Northern War (along with large tracts of land; the Baltic provinces, southern Swedish Pomerania) while Sweden was ruled by Charles XII. The absolute monarchy and Swedish Empire ended with the death of Charles XII in 1718. Ulrika Eleonora (sister of Charles XII) was Queen of Sweden for a couple of years, after which her husband Frederick I became King of Sweden. The Riksdag had recognized her over her nephew Charles Frederick (who married the daughter of Peter the Great and was the father of Peter III) in exchange for the throne renouncing most power to the Riksdag (starting what is known as the Age of Liberty). Frederick I didn't really do much in the 10 years he was king, as the Riksdag (made up of the noble Hat Party and the non-noble Cap Party) had most of the power. The Hat Party lost even more Swedish territory in a failed war with Russia, and subsequently lost a lot of influnce and power in Sweden. The Cap Party took over while Adolf Frederick became King (just as powerless as Frederick I), and instated a unique-at-the-time Freedom of Press Act (ending almost all types of censorship), economic liberalism, etc. Adolf Frederick himself is most famous for having died of indigestion after eating a large meal followed by 14 hetvägg/semla (a sort of pastries served in hot milk). Gustav III was the oldest son of Adolf Frederick, and became King of Sweden at age 25. One year later, he led a bloodless coup against the Riksdag, ending the Age of Liberty by retaking power to the throne and becoming a self-styled enlightened despot and absolute ruler. While his attempts at conquering Norway and re-taking land from Russia ended without major changes to the status quo, he enacted massive changes in Swedish society; removed the Freedom of the Press Act, yet enacted major reforms for economic liberalism, social reform, social mobility, religious freedom, acts aimed at reducing wastefulness, and the near-total ban on torture and capital punishment. He also invested large sums in promoting culture and philosophy.
@@rorymeller545 I'm a history student , this whole show irks and pulls me in so much . So so very much do i hate the migraines i get from liking this show
@@CSteeg-em2fh Also a history student, and same! It's not trying to be accurate... yet somehow it's more accurate than half the dramas out there? And way better written.
They would most likely be speaking french, as that was the lingua franca of most of the European royals at the time. And if it were historically accurate Peter would have a German accent not a Russian one, since he refused to learn Russian. But this show is not trying to be historically accurate.
Very little of this show is accurate. It’s very funny, I highly recommend it if you enjoy witty biting satire…… not so much if you’re a historical purist though.
I never understood why they changed the names of the Swedish monarchs... I know that the show isn't meant to be historically accurate but what does it add to the story that they gave imaginary names to the king and queen of Sweden? when this is supposed to be set the king of Sweden was Adolf Frederick, I think and his wife was Louisa. Hugo and Agnes are such random names. Is there a meaning behind the change?
The Russian monarchy is dead, so no one to complain there, but the Swedish monarchy is alive, well and loved by their people, so a lot of people to complain.
@@adamryan977 But the Swedish monarchy of the 18th century is also dead. The Swedish royal family of today is an entirely different one. So you'd think it would have been ok to use the real names.
The Great bills itself as "occassionally accurate" and S2 goes even further off the deep end. So no, bet that it isn't. But I've seen a historically accurate Catherine the Great series and it's.. shall we say, not entertaining? So my advice is to imagine this show as an artistic alternate universe fan fiction, and enjoy it =)
@@beng9661 Thank you for adding to my education and for your advice. It appears that doing great things, in reality, involves focusing a lot on the less interesting yet necessary things... honing the skill of statecraft.
Nothing about this even remotely accurate Peter the Great was one of Russia greatest monarchs and modernized the country, while Catherine, his wife, the women in this show, stagnated Russia modernization. Pretty much the two were exactly opposite as portrayed in this show
@@rustonh316 Hardly, just out of all the many historical inaccuracies that is the most glaring. Even today the black population in Russia is around 0.034%. On the show like 1/4 of the cast is black or some other ethnicity. I heard someone say "color blind" casting. That is the stupidest thing i have ever heard of lol.
Pretending like race isin't a thing and that people aren't treated differently, ESPECIALLY in the 18th century, that is racist and just ignorant. The entire show is about the enlightenment period ffs! Everything back then was according to class structure and caste systems.
I think they did it for two reasons. 1) To emphasise the vastness of the Russian Empire. People from the Eastern provinces would have seemed as alien to St Petersburg as Africans. 2) To emphasise that this is 99% made-up.
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