The Great Distortion Debate... | Dead by Daylight 

Is this like the great depression. Are we running out of stacks of distortion ???

That's why people ran Ultimate Weapon so much after xenomorph came out. It completely ignored distortion and made it so you could actually find people.

I miss the time where you could hide from the killer

I think the real question we should be asking ourselves is why Distortion is only now becoming prevelant? There was a time in this game's history where Barbecue & Chili was the most used Killer perk (back when it gave bonus BP) and nearly EVERY Killer ran this. Yet Distortion was a perk that was almost never seen on the Survivor side back then, despite there being near guaranteed value. Why? Because the Killer seeing everyone's aura every once in a while was something Survivors could reasonably deal with and play around. Barbecue and Chili was the only aura-reading perk to see regular use by Killers back then, so there was a certain level of consistency in games. Survivors knew to be ready for chase after someone was hooked. But nowadays, there are far more aura-reading perks than before that make it difficult to tell when the Killer can see you and for how long. Killers could be running Lethal Pursuer, Gearhead, Barbecue & Chili, Floods of Rage, Nowhere to Hide, Friends til the End, Darkness revealed etc. Nearly one-fifth (24 out of 121) Killer perks reveal Survivor auras right now. Doing a gen while your teammate is being chased? Gearhead just revealed your aura. Just ran pass a dull totem? Undying revealed your aura. Unhooked a teammate? Floods of rage revealed your aura. Stunned the Killer? Nemesis/Thwack revealed your aura. Dropped an item? Weave attunement revealed your aura. Someone else got hooked? Barbecue & Chili or Friends Til the End revealed your aura. Doing a gen next to a locker? Darkness revealed showed your aura. Vaulted anything in chase? I'm All Ears revealed your aura. Waiting for the Killer to just Pop your gen and leave? Too bad, Nowhere to Hide revealed your aura. Just loaded into the game? Lethal Pursuer revealed your aura. To say absolutely nothing about the amount of Killer add-ons that also reveal your aura and have their duration buffed by Lethal Pursuer. And what do Survivors have to combat this? One, arguably two (if you count Off the Record), perk(s) out of 140 that can block your aura. And that ONE perk has three tokens before it no longer hides you. And those tokens only cover 10 seconds max. If the Killer's aura reading perk or add-on goes on longer than ten seconds (ex: Eruption, Friends til the End + Lethal Pursuer, Hex Retribution) you will lose two tokens for the price of one. And heaven forbid the Killer is a stealth one or running a build/add-on that suppresses their terror radius because that is needed to recharge Distortion. BHVR seems intent to give Killers more powerful aura reading perks (Friends Til the End). So, of course, more Survivors are gonna run the ONLY counter to this nonsense. I doubt BHVR is going to change all of those aura reading perks, so why should they nerf the ONLY real counter to them?

I bet someone already said "hello otz, this is friends".

I think personally. This isn’t a change I can endorse until survivors have a way to see each others perks pre game. Otherwise it just adds another perk to the list that solo players are punished for using.

I've been playing with some friends who are pretty new to the game, and the most commonly asked question I have heard them say when we queue together is "How the FRICK does the killer know where I am?!". As of a couple weeks ago, I started to equip Distortion and all of a sudden I find myself trying to explain nearly TWICE as often why the killer can probably see them. That's why at moments like 7:22 when you say "*little bit* of game knowledge" it hurts me on the inside because it really ISN'T just a "little bit", and this silly game does a seriously poor job of conveying what a player should expect, especially at more novice levels. This game has TONS of perks, MANY killers, and SCORES of unique add-ons, and it's PREPOSTEROUS that the devs think it's sufficient to throw so much potential variation to the game environment, like the perks, and then expect players to meticulously read through every one and figure out how they work. For a project that's been simmering for 8 (eight) years now, it should NOT be tolerated that supplemental resources from third parties such as yourself are more or less practically essential for improvement/enjoyment in-game, when many folks hardly have the time to engage with it in the first place. Seriously, the survival tutorial doesn't even walk you through any strategies for when you're being chased by the killer. "Repair generators! Unhook survivors! *Don't get killed!* :)" I think new players should get in-trial tool-tips for when perks/add-ons activate for the first few times so they actually recognize what's going on, but I imagine that's more likely to happen after they implement the ability to view loadouts in the lobby 🤪 (P.S. the second most asked question from my beginner friends is "Why the FRICK did my generator explode when I didn't have a skill check!?")

Problem is: There are so many aura reading perks that four stacks of Distortion you are not getting back could potentially be eaten away incredibly fast.

I think making the tokens shared would just further punish solo players since you have no way knowing if someone else runs it before the match, also a swf could save the tokens much later into the game, cause for solo players a single lethal would remove half the tokens if two players run it

One thing i've noticed is that it seems like there's a vicious cycle between killer aura reading, distortion, and gen slowdown. Killers have WAY too many ways to read auras, which leads to people running distortion as a one perk counter to every single one of them, which leads to killers not running aura read because it becomes useless, and instead running stuff like pop/pain res. I think if we were still at a point where there werent a perk or addon for basically anything a killer could do revealing your aura, distortion would be a lot less of a problem, or if there were a tell for your aura being read. Because honestly, i don't care about hiding my aura- i want to interact with the killer, it makes the game fun. But knowing when and why my aura has been read makes a huge difference in chase, and it's simply impossible to know unless you assume your aura is being read at all times between the likes of nowhere to hide, nurse's calling, bbq, friends til the end, bitter murmur, darkness revealed, and all the various aura addons. There's somewhere around 25 perks that reveal auras, not to mention a bunch of addons, and most (but not all) of them reward normal killer gameplay or punish normal survivor gameplay. Some have counters built in that can tell you they're there, but most don't, and a lot are so easy and consistent to use that survivors have no choice but to run distortion or assume they're there until proven otherwise. I'd honestly still use distortion if it just didn't hide your aura, didn't have stacks, but lit up and made a sound anytime your aura was read. Info is power.

Why change the ONLY PERK that hides aura?!!! The only one against like 20 aura reading perks?!

I like how Otz assumes everyone knows how every perk works. During Chaos shuffle I just stared at perks like a penguin at a desert.

i wish bhvr would stop making more and more aura reading perks and add some scream and maybe killer instinct perks, i personally feel the issue isnt entirely distortion, but how ridiculous the amount of aura reading perks exist compared to scream and the 0 killer instinct perks

All they need to do is make it so the stacks only regain while in chase rather than in tr. All it does now is promote immersion gameplay and hiding the entire game.

I will die on this hill but I still say this perk should also activiate in the dying state. Killers should be punished in some way for slugging and I think that would do the job tremendously.

Having someone not get to use their perk fully because someone else brought the same perk it a horrible idea

My problem with your solution is that punishing people for bringing the same perk in an environment where they have no method of communicating with their teammates just creates a really shitty and toxic situation. I would never bring it if I couldn't know if the guy on PS4 that I can't speak to might be bringing it, because then my perk is just worse.

I use distortion because I always end up getting tunneled for some reason via aura read builds

What if Lightborn and/or Franklins got the same change Otz is proposing? You can only use Lightborn X amount of times and after X amount of times you can’t knock items out of survivors hands anymore. Sounds kinda wild changing those perks because it might counter someone’s play style they wanted to do.

I personally feel distortion is fine as is. Especially with builds using the new Vecna perk (Weave Attunement) as it absolutely devours stacks of Distortion. Ultimate counter to Distortion is a scratch mirror Myers, as you will never get stacks back.

I think the problem with distortion is it is the only meaningful perk counter to Lethal and other aura reading. I don’t run distortion. But most killers run lethal, so the beginnings of my games are all the same: I “pretend” to do something for a quarter of a minute, then turn around and go somewhere else do something. Every single game. At this point, you either run distortion, or you play around the fact you know you are giving your aura all the time. Distortion isn’t problematic. It is the response to Lethal being in every game in the last year that wasn’t chaos shuffle. Sure, not finding survivors is boring, but so is being found every game for free 🤷🏼‍♀️

I know how to solve the perk. Take all aura perks out period.....

Distortion isnt problematic when compared to the ridiculous slew of aura reading that is often easily available to the killer, nowhere to hide, friends til the end, darkness revealed, lethal pursuer, you can spit and hit an addon on a killer that gives virtually free aura reading, it is important that we balance both of those aspects of gameplay. In addition it is circular anecdotal reasoning that distortion causes tunneling, many people who run surplus information perks also do it to tunnel easier. Tunnelers will tunnel either way, stealth rats will be stealth rats either way. You cant fix one problem in dead by daylight without addressing a correlating problem the majority of community is facing down. In this case it is tunneling and an overabundance of easy aura reading. If we're going to give distortion extremely limited tokens then we also need to give many aura reading perks tokens in my opinion, with perks like lethal pursuer giving additional tokens to other aura reading instead of extending the duration of all other auras.

I'm sorry but with all the aura reading perks and add-ons, changing Distortion is completely unfair unless you also nerf the perks and add-ons

Distortion 2.0 seems like it would cause a lot more frustration especially in soloQ. I believe the perk would be less frustrating while still being useful if you started with less tokens, say 1 or 2, and only gained them during chase or when hooked. This way it would allow for stealthy gameplay and prevent tunneling, while also stopping a full rat playstyle.

the problem with your version of the perk is that the team can easly lose all four stacks in the beginning of the game with Lethal pursuer, or maybe in the middle of the match with BBQ.

Distortion should not be changed before Nowhere To Hide's aura is centered on generators and some nerf to nurse with aura reading is applied

Vecna with BBQ, friends till the end, lethal, nowhere and Distortion is problematic?

I've had many games where I notice a player has distortion and just go "oh that guy has distortion" and thats the extent of how much it impacts my game, but a full swf running it would be annoying as hell depending on which killer and perks you're running

I honestly worry that something like this would destroy the perk 😭 solo teammates are not nearly aware enough to pay attention in the way you’d hope they would to get that nerfed distortion to help them. I would just not run the perk anymore because if I’m only getting four uses at *max*, I’d rather run something I can get value out of the whole match and just deal with having my aura read an extra four times

Does the DBD community like to complain about everything? In all the games I have had with people running distortion, I barely notice it is even in play, I still manage to find them. Sure it might suck if everyone in the match has it and also plays very stealthy, and especially if your a new player but to cry and complain over a perk which you barely notice it is in play most of the time anyway is bloody stupid. And yes anything at competitive level can be used effectively, but most people who play this game aren't fuuuckkking comp players.

Dude, the fuck. Distortion is one of my favorite perks

Distortion is fine how it is, BUT it's not player's fault that BHVR keeps on adding more and more perks that have aura reading perks (literally I just feel like 50% of the whole killer perks are aura reading perks) AND on top of that they keep on adding more and more addons with aura reading as well! And look, I get that they may just don't have any ideas for the perk but it's just how it is. Killers complain about how many people wear distortion, and survivors complain about how many aura reading perks/addons are in the game THEREFORE distortion is essential. To make it less annoying, I would just suggest straight-up re-working literally those 25% of the perks that give aura (remove aura ability but add something else) and re-work another 25% of the whole killer's addons that give aura as well Survivor wears distortion but no aura reading perks/addons are present for the killer? No complains! Killer has the re-worked perks/addons that would give a different effect with survivors wearing/not wearing distortion? No complains! Even though it's a gamble, having so many aura reading perks is so unhealthy for both sides tbf

Nah dude, Distortion 2.0 is not the vibe. This literally makes it harder for solo queue players. Just have it start with no tokens, I think that’s the best thing to do without completely gutting it. Your version would have this perk go back to never ever being used.

8:14 Counterargument, it's frustrating to survivors that killer's have so many aura reading perks that hiding isn't an option anymore and they just bee-line straight to you. Therefore they run distortion.

Aurus are a little op killers can have pretty much constant feedback on exact enemy locations

I feel like this is not addressing the huge abundance of aura reading perks on killer side. This just feels like we're flopping between "stealth is too strong" and "stealth is too weak" which is not a good discussion. I think a good compromise is losing the scratch marks part of the perk if its so much of an issue. I think it make it weaker in chase and stronger on long range reads like bbq and lethal

As someone who plays both sides I still don't see distortion as the core issue. It's the ONLY counter to soooo many perks and add ons besides hiding in a locker. It truely feels like the devs went a bit too heavy on the aura reading without adding other options to counter it. For instance, when I started playing with the Oni, distortion was for avoiding getting caught healing by nurses, or to not get spotted by bbq when a teammate gets hooked across the map, that sort of thing. Now it flat-out counters like 52 things with various triggers. What else should players do? Obviously, only having one perk to counter all that feels bad, but more aura hiding options are still going to make the same people mad. So where do we go from here? :(

Let’s be real here. Killers would run gen defense perks anyway instead of other stuff. Distortion’s nerf wouldn’t change anything about the meta.

Distortion is just the survivor equivalent of killers light born

My problem is whenever there's lethal pursuer and I'm running distortion I'll still be first found 😭

Soo killers can use constant aura reading. But survivors cant have múltiple aura reading protection.

Aura reading, gen slowdown, blocking exit gates, some killers having side objectives that take you off gens to deal with … like … maybe let’s just have the survivors start already on the fucking hook 🙄🙄 Jesus.

Guy brings 2 aura read perks and wonders why Distortion is handy. :/

I highly disagree with this, as a solo player I'm not giving my team any information at any time aside from emote pointing. I run this because I'm not the strongest in chase and prefer to take a back seat role. Do gens or heal others. Distortion helps the team by keeping me hidden and not dying too early. Not everyone enjoys looping a killer, I enjoy the thrill of not being caught.

As a survivor main, we usually have only 1, max 2 distortions in the team, and tokens usually disappear so quickly due to the fact, that some killers have all aura reading perks on all the time. It's no fun to have your aura being seen all the time - the game is about stealth as well, and if killer tunnels from the beginning this can be the perk to save you from aura reveal every 3 seconds of the match. Don't care about scratch marks, that effect can just be deleted.

If even distortion is considered to be too good they should just fking remove survivor perks

so many perks need this treatment. Head on should highlight the locker yellow when the person inside is ready to stun someone. Unbreakable should have a ui icon next to their recovery bar or something, same idea with deliverance. THE ANTI-CAMP BAR PROGRESS SHOULD BE VISIBLE TO OTHER SURVS. sooo many idiots camping alongside the killer and keeping the bar from filling, thinking that they're helping. Adren, FtP, plot twist, so so many perks need to be called out to work, and having a little tell for your teammates to pick up on would be nice. Just to prevent all the unnecessary bs. "don't heal me I have inner strength" "please let me unhook, I have we'll make it" etc etc

While you're at it lets just remove any counter to aura reading smh. Distortion is not a big deal, you waste 4 slots on soloq and even in sfw it is still situational

Ok. Your intros hardly ever get me, but that first stage of grief line made me chuckle.

This is why people have been running Spies, Infectious, and other scream-inducing perks. It's the natural order. Survs adjust to the meta, which makes killers adjust to survs, and the circle continues. I don't see a problem with Distortion. Yeah, I might not find the surv initially, but generally speaking, eventually they have to come out in the open for the save. It should be noted that Distortion also doesn't block Killer Instinct. Nor does it save people from notification perks like Call of Brine. Trail of Torment and Discordance are also viable options to catch people at specific gens without the need to read their auras, specifically. Brass tacks, if people are gonna hide all match, they're gonna do it with or without Distortion. If that's their idea of fun- never being chased, not contributing to the team with gens or unhooks- oh well. The 4k really isn't that important. On the other end, if a killer resorts to "unfun" (in my opinion, "bad" is a more appropriate term) behavior, they were likely to do so, anyway, and nothing was gonna stop that. Also, this suggested change is also catering to a more "hardcore" player, as not everyone is a walking encyclopedia of survivor perks and can use the token-loss info to that effect. It should also be noted that even some daily players who only play survivor still aren't fully aware of every killer perk. I'm a killer main, but I occasionally run SWF with a surv main friend who has thousands up on thousands of hours in the game, and even she needs some explanation on what killer perks we're going against. One last thing - Distortion is locked behind a character that a large set of the player base might not have. Casual players tend to lean towards cosmetically pleasing characters (Feng, Nea, Kate, etc.) or licensed characters and Jeff's skins are lame in comparison. How many Jeff mains do you see? 😄

"why do you think people run pop and pain res" I don't know, but it'll keep happening regardless of Distortion being changed or not.

I think the perk is fine as is simply because there's so many ways for the Killer to track us or to make themselves undetectable. As someone who isn't a top survivor I think its nice to be able to have something to counter perks that reveal my location just for playing the game. Seriously theres perks that reveal you if you: Walk next to lockers Walk next to gens Walk next to totems Work on gens Unhook survivors Open Lockers Complete Gens And do much more This doesn't even count perks that reveal when the Killer does something. Yeah I get it, its a 1 v 4 and the Killer has to manage the game against 4 other players in order to come out on top so they should have ways of getting info, but it feels like every game I'm being punished just for playing. I don't think its really all that strong, more of a mild convenience against losing the game before I even get a chance to play cuz the Killer can track my every move almost from step 1. Ive had matches where I never need it, and matches where it was constantly on empty cuz of all the tracking perks and add ons being triggered.

Otz looking very dapper in his pink hoodie!

I don't think distortion is a problem, if every third survivor wastes a perk slot to protect from aura reading thats not that bad.

Killers should stop relying on seeing auras all the time. This easy mode for killers is so annoying. I shouldn’t be punished for playing stealthy while helping my team to complete our goal. Here’s another idea: punish distortion’s users by consuming their tokens if all they do is hiding. Make it harder to regain tokens or even put crows above their heads if they didn’t nothing to progress the game after 1 minute or so. Much better in my opinion.

About your suggested idea for distortion: in a solo queue with 4 distorsions, having lethal pursuer would eliminate all 4 perks

Meh. There are SOOOOO many perks that counter distortion. I don't see the issue. Just like when survivors get tunneled, killers say "just run anti-tunnel perks"... well... just run perks that cause us to lose more tokens. Boom. You guys have so many aura reading perks, it won't be that hard to take our tokens away lol

this type of distortion wouldn't worth a slot, thank you but no. dozens of aura revealing perks and people have a problem with distortion, really?..

Implementing so much aura effects in a game where survivors can't fight the killer back makes no sense. You leave no scratch marks, no noise and you are spotted out of nowhere. It's a bit too easy for killers to just kick a gen and not having to guess anything at all. I prefer distortion the way it is, because I support the meta use ur brain a bit and not the push the button one. If killers were less toxic why not nerf distortion, but aura reading is mostly used to tunnel more efficiently by killers who lack actual gamesense. How dbd could be considered as a serious competitive game if you just have to play dirty and wallhack as a killer?

I just saw that you got 1mil subscribers! So happy for you, well deserved!

3:26 “Engenders a specific passivity” Otz thinking he slick with the Bloodborne reference, I see you!

Firstly, (I know Otz said this wasn't his gripe but) a player quitting because the killer came back to them isn't a problem derived from Distortion. That is an issue with the specific quitter's mentality. With or without Distortion, believe it or not, a Killer can target whomever they want in a 'defeat all opposing players' game. As with any game, if you feel that you must quit because it didn't play out how you wanted, then that is a 'you' problem. The fact that Distortion worked as it should for the player using it means that they got value from their perk selection. One player's use of Distortion does not have to be conducive to another player's survival. It's a user-specific perk just like WoO. Secondly, if one player using Distortion in a SWF is able to benefit the whole team by calling out a Killer's aura perks, then that is simply another benefit of playing DbD in a SWF. It's no different to getting a pallet save using comms. If you play solo and choose not to run Distortion, then that's your choice. As is a Killer's choice not to run any aura reading perks. Therefore, I disagree with Otz's proposed "fix" of allowing Distortion to be shared between its users in order to interpret what aura perks a Killer is running. Only co-op perks or Boons should be able to benefit more than just the Survivor running them. Not even Prove Thyself stacks with multiple instances. Plus, why should a Distortion user want their value of the perk to be subject to another player's actions? Having a heads up is nice but clearly this wasn't thought through because when the match starts and the Killer is running Leathal, who loses the token if Distortion is shared and all users only get one stack that cannot be regenerated?

The only issue I can see with this rework is some aura reading perks can be activated by doing an action over and over, like Darkness revealed. You could at the beginning of the game, just open and close a locker 4 times to deplete their tokens over and over and then just completely nullify that perk. Sure yeah you could lose time by doing that, but you then destroy that survivor's playstyle for that match and throw them off completely.

I’m glad to finally get your opinion on this perk!

Distortion user here. 1. Lethal will proc 1st 2. BBQ 2nd 3. another BBQ last and if I am repairing a gen on the other side of the map, I am not in the killer's terror radius to replenish my stacks and when the killer comes for me with nowhere to hide or whichever add-on reveals me, I don't have it anymore. I know this is situational, but it happens very often. Now the REAL issue here, in the current meta, is not distortion, it is the new VECNA'S perk, that reveals you if the item is dropped, and combined with Franklin's demise, this is absolutely broken!!! Items are lying all over the map, you can remember where yours dropped, go get it, become blinded for a while and carry your depleted item to a corner of the map. But for the others you don't know exactly where the items are, you see that icon in your bottom corner of the screen, and the radius is insane, it just EATS AWAY all you stacks of distortion quickly. THIS needs to be nerfed, not distortion considering how many revealing perks we have, and I know cause I use them on my nurse a lot :D

My main gripe with this argument is about 3/4 of the time you bring Distortion it does absolutely nothing. Not a lot of killers bring strong aura perks so a lot of the time it’s a waste of a slot. Plus with only a limited number of tokens I think it’s fine as it is

we have so many more things to worry about in the game than nerfing a fine perk and punishing solo players

What if you get a distortion token for every generator you have completed

Sorry, Otz, but it’s STBFL situation all over again. Distortion doesn’t need any changes, it’s already risky enough to pick. You can play 7 matches in a row and get zero value from it, because killer didn’t have any aura reading in his build. Perk is totally fine, it can also diversify the gameplay by allowing some interesting stealth plays. Your suggestion will ruin the perk entirely, nobody will ever use it again.

I just don't want a blight with Lethal beelining for me at the start of the game every 3 matches. That's literally all I want, and Distortion is the only real counter to it

Damnit, Everytime i find a main kit to run. People start bitching about a perk being too good. Been using this perk for 2 years, but now its a issue? Ugh fine take that from me too.

The issue with changing Distortion is that the majority of killers run aura reading, and there are dozens of aura reading perks and can already drain all the tokens to the point where my aura is shown while running Distortion. Distortion doesnt need a change, survivors need more aura countering perks that isnt a boon. The ratio between how many aura reading perks killers have and how many aura blocking perks survivors have is drastically large. Another thing is that people need to stop overrelying on aura reading and actually use game sense to find survivors. Ive had many killers blindly walk right by me because they were so focused on finding my aura rather than my character model or scratch marks.

No this is the problem with killers running Aura perks 24/7

What I'd prefer as a change is that yes, distortion stacks don't regenerate, but also you do not see your distortion tokens remaining. Just perk icon being lit up as long as you have any tokens, then go dark when your distortion runs out. That way you can't call killers aura perks until much later in the game, making this a worse swf perk, while maintaining value for an individual player.

I feel like tokens should come back for doing chase!! or being w/ in 8m of killer?

killers now are so strong, but still want to nerf survivors perks

Every single match I get, killers bring 4 aura reading perks and it’s very frustrating not being able to do anything without a Blight, Billy or Nurse rushing towards me instantly. Killers want easy matches without even trying to look for survivors. I’ve had killers harass me bc “I was hiding all game” when they didn’t even bother coming and checking my gen, they were just pissed because they had to actually try.

So alongside this then we will also have all perks be limited uses in the match? 3 use Sprint Burst?

“WHY ARE YOU MAKING ME TUNNEL YOU???”

If distorsion need a nerf or a rework, lethal pursuer also need one

Tbf that first game main reason people are DCing is because you're playing Vecna, a killer with FOUR abilities with very little disadvantages. A killer with Artist's ability but stronger version, Nurse's/Blight's ability but non-lethal, base-kit Blood Favour ability and an ability to track survivor in a single direction with the ability to counter A COUNTER.

I’m usually all for his ideas. But not this one. There’s way to much aura perks to remove distortion the way it is. Can’t be a hide and seek game if you can see through walls :/

BHVR whenever they are willing to nerf a survivor perk: 30 second cooldown, take it or leave it

ABSOLUTELY NOT. This change sounds terrible.

Distortion would be great if it gained tokens in chase. Can't stand rats or having to lose an information perk

I don't personally agree that people run pop+pain rez bc of distortion. They run those perks because there's not enough variety in which perks are strong enough to compete with what you get from using those specific perks, especially together. Distortion could definitely be better but I don't think nerfing it this hard will make it better. Anyone playing without a full SWIF wouldn't take the risk and never getting the tokens back just completely breaks it's usefulness past the first five minutes of a killer using Nowhere to Hide or Gearhead. Perks like those eat tokens so quickly, Distortion only works half of the match anyway.

God forbid survivors have counterplay for the asston of killer aura perks

she had distortion so I tunneld her, this is how problematic this perk is LOL I never get tired of killer mains crying about the fact that there is a counter to their million wallhacks 🤣

Every game as survivor means going against pop/painres/grim/corrupt, doesnt matter if we distort or not. There is only one solution and its bring back chaos shuffle so the tryhards can keep playing "normal" games. And let the rest of us have fun instead.

Oh but killers have a perk that gives them immunity to flashlights and she quits cuz you tunnel her out

What if a "fear" counter would get added into the game, that increases when you stealth for a long time, and after a certain point, you scream out of fear.

Distortion has ZERO impact on the pain res pop meta. It would still exist regardless. Distortion is already weak. You lose 2 stacks against 1 nurses calling. You lose distortion disgustingly fast against a lot of builds and against stealth killers, (many of whom also have iri aura reveals for free) you flat out never get them back.

Otz, I'm almost dead certain you just missed the person who's aura was shown in the first clip. You can even see me saying that in chat at the time, but I believe they were REALLY close by to your right as soon you hooked them? Might've been interacting with one of Vecna's chests.

Otz, your suggestion is good, but personally, it doesn’t feel fair to me to rework a perk that works for everyone regardless of their skill level, for one that would only benefit skilled and knowledgeable players. Especially when you’re starting out, it feels good to have a perk that lets you feel “safe,” and if someone’s at that stage, I doubt taking away their perk is gonna make them realize that they need to get out more and get some chases in to avoid letting their teammates get tunneled. I didn’t start playing the game yesterday, but I remember how important it was for me when I was starting out to have “comfy” perks that helped me feel safe and the confidence they brought me, specially when I was made to engage the killer. I understand how annoying it can be to have your perks or add-ons countered by a single perk, but that only feels like a threat when you’re going against a SWF, at which point, they have a lot more going for them than just one perk. Even without Distortion, if the killer doesn’t bring any info perks, most of them will tunnel and just go back to hook when they hear the unhook sound notification, because that seems better than walk around the map blindly looking for survivors. And if killers didn’t care to tunnel, they could play around Distortion by downing the unhooked survivor and forcing someone else come pick them. I don’t know, this video came so out of left field, it seems like the kind of controversy you’d only see on Twitter. I honestly didn’t think people would have a beef with Distortion of all perks.

Why does this feel like the killers version of the camping/tunneling argument

Maybe there should just be something like Exhaustion for Aura Reading so the Killer can't spam Aura Reading perks.

That would be trash for solo ... The problem is killers want easy downs and can't find the person to do that. This perk only became a debate because friends to the end came out.

While I agree the perk can be annoying, I feel like this would make the perk next to useless against many builds. Because I’ve had games where all 3 stacks are gone within less the. A minute. And once you’ve used it, it would just be gone.

People already run 4 slow downs just to run them a distortion change is not gonna change the way the community plays