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Written by Nick McPhate.
IG: @jaggerskilbeck
Cos they aren't good now but they used to be. Good stuff.
Thanks for watching.

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@crazykoalashorts7021
@crazykoalashorts7021 9 месяцев назад
Finally after years of heartbreak, the blues are in finals, up and about
@bass_boy925
@bass_boy925 2 года назад
YES, JAGGER IS BACK IN BUSINESS
@FightFigures
@FightFigures 2 года назад
1:10 "And we've had droughts that still remain." My favourite part about your work is that it consistently validates how disappointing St Kilda is. I feel seen on this channel.
@jaggerskilbeck
@jaggerskilbeck 2 года назад
Next year xx
@GeneralSunsprite
@GeneralSunsprite Год назад
@@jaggerskilbeck not this year. Next year mate.
@aussieaussie4848
@aussieaussie4848 Год назад
Not this year, next year xx
@jordylilley3818
@jordylilley3818 11 месяцев назад
​@@aussieaussie4848:(
@LomuHabana
@LomuHabana 2 месяца назад
At least they made the finals 2023, and beat the reigning premiers in 2024. It’s not much but at least something they can build on you would think.
@AFL4LIFE
@AFL4LIFE 2 года назад
These are such goated videos The AFL need to pick you up anyway immma keep watching edit: such a good vid
@AFL4LIFE
@AFL4LIFE 2 года назад
@J G did I ask?
@hamishphistopholoes6540
@hamishphistopholoes6540 2 года назад
@J G Soccer: beloved by lady boys the world over.
@aishahogan570
@aishahogan570 2 года назад
i’m 18 and it’s so sad to never have seen any success while my dad tells me about all the grand finals he went to and watched them win premiership after premiership
@footybloke298
@footybloke298 2 года назад
yup same here, always talks about 81-82.
@ethanspataro5994
@ethanspataro5994 2 года назад
Exact same boat I’m in
@thejokingcat783
@thejokingcat783 2 года назад
My Mum got to 45 without seeing any success from Melbourne then last year happened. Have faith, your boys will get there soon, especially with the start the Blues are having. Every disappointment will make it so much better when you get one.
@pasune_
@pasune_ 2 года назад
Feels the same going for Essendon 😢
@SilentHotdog28
@SilentHotdog28 2 года назад
@@thejokingcat783 You're right, my dad was 58 and finally got to see the Bulldogs win one, him and my brother got to go to the Grand Final too, keep in mind he was 3 years old when they played in their last Grand Final and had seen about 8 Prelim losses. Droughts eventually break, it just takes time.
@4whomittolz846
@4whomittolz846 Год назад
it's the end of 2022. We have a Brownlow winning captain, and a back to back Coleman from two different forewards. Yet we're the first team in decades to win the Brownlow and the Coleman without making finals. Just this once I let myself hope that maybe, just maybe, we could make finals. but one point. one point to Collingwood meant it was all for nothing.
@guiandelossantos8212
@guiandelossantos8212 9 месяцев назад
So close, yet so far to a grand final.
@mobbsey
@mobbsey 2 года назад
*Another masterpiece incoming!*
@protagonist321
@protagonist321 2 года назад
@J G Except it won't be because it's a boring spectacle. Australians who grow up on AFL simply struggle to get into a sport that leaves their fans worried all match about the opposition scoring a goal instead of enjoying their own teams performance.
@hamishphistopholoes6540
@hamishphistopholoes6540 2 года назад
@J G Soccer: beloved by lady boys the world over.
@lucacaldy8001
@lucacaldy8001 2 месяца назад
who's watching this in 2024 as a carlton fan. kinda funny looking back tbh
@LomuHabana
@LomuHabana 2 месяца назад
I just hope we finally make it. Then I will watch this video with a big smile and a nice glass of wine in my hand.
@TBG.61
@TBG.61 2 года назад
I am so glad you have made a video about the blues! I have been a fan all my life (born 2008) and it has been hard but people like you put light back to the glory days.
@TotalDramaOwenandNoah
@TotalDramaOwenandNoah 2 года назад
Well us at Freo haven’t even won a flag, we’ve had the most struggles in the league atm
@whydoilike
@whydoilike 2 года назад
@@TotalDramaOwenandNoah but you made the top of the ladder in 2015 and made a granny!!!
@northexpressaurora379
@northexpressaurora379 2 года назад
Same lmao
@nehankaranch2149
@nehankaranch2149 2 года назад
@@TotalDramaOwenandNoah should've won in 2014
@TotalDramaOwenandNoah
@TotalDramaOwenandNoah 2 года назад
@@nehankaranch2149 don’t you mean 2013 but yeah we should have won a flag last decade
@welcomethebeef
@welcomethebeef Год назад
Watching this video knowing Carlton just missed finals this year just cements how disappointing the club is for its fans
@pollythefarmer9246
@pollythefarmer9246 Год назад
The video is silly because it confused VFL with AFL.
@MATTEOISBAKE
@MATTEOISBAKE Год назад
I’m heartbroken and that was 8 months ago I’m never gonna forget it I go to 12 fuckin games a year I’m litterely only 13 putting all my heart into Carlton and we fucking did that like if we don’t make the 8 in 2023 I’m done
@stephendunlop4297
@stephendunlop4297 Год назад
@@MATTEOISBAKE stick by then mate, I’m 26 and that loss was the most heartbreaking moment of my life. It’ll be worth it one day trust me!
@r.mhaych5021
@r.mhaych5021 Год назад
Imagine being an Essendon fan mate
@samcooper8070
@samcooper8070 Год назад
@@MATTEOISBAKE ooft
@harrytol1406
@harrytol1406 2 года назад
He’s back everyone
@domclegg1225
@domclegg1225 Год назад
god this video has aged like fine fucking wine
@anthonyversace9548
@anthonyversace9548 Год назад
Fast forward 10 months. Collingwood just finished Carlton's season by 1 point.
@Crawfo
@Crawfo Год назад
Couldn't have been any better
@thinhnonyt
@thinhnonyt 2 года назад
Far out mate, your content is incredible. You always find the most interesting topics that are worthy of a look and your knowledge is almost unending. I’ll be keeping an eye on you, your stuff is class
@JC4.80
@JC4.80 9 месяцев назад
WHO IS HERE AFTER WE WON A ELIMINATION FINAL AFTER 10 LONG YEARS I AM SO HAPPY IDC WHAT HAPPENS FROM HERE EDIT: WTF IS GOING ON WE WON THE SEMI IDK HOW THE HECK WE DID IT OFF TO BRISBANE
@LomuHabana
@LomuHabana 2 месяца назад
This (2024) could be our year. Or if it isn’t this year, the team is still young enough for next year, or the year after. Anyway, the present and future looks significantly less dark than the past. Hope they learned from that period and leave those years behind for good.
@JC4.80
@JC4.80 2 месяца назад
@@LomuHabana yea hopefully we can experience some awesome times
@BlueAbroad
@BlueAbroad 2 года назад
This is unreal ❤️
@lucacaldy8001
@lucacaldy8001 2 месяца назад
looking back on these trades, players that looked like a bust are now crucial to our team, Kennedy, martin, newman and Docherty just to name a few. kinda crazy how things can change in the space of a few years.
@Rapsciddy31
@Rapsciddy31 2 года назад
Another phenomenal footy history video graces my page. You satisfy the itch of a lot for this sort of content. Keep Grinding
@jameswrappner4624
@jameswrappner4624 2 года назад
Great video. I was absolutely glued to this. You certainly did your homework!!
@patwhelan3877
@patwhelan3877 2 года назад
Get this guy to 100K by 2022! Awesome video! Every single one is amazing! Truly a testimony for quality over quantity
@aydenmilbourne9645
@aydenmilbourne9645 5 месяцев назад
Love this kind of video mate! I watch everything you put out but this style is super entertaining and engaging 👌👌
@henza3609
@henza3609 2 года назад
This is just brilliant, no one can really understand Carlton FC at the moment but with this sort of quality video we can all gain a little bit more perspective.
@Dontomatios
@Dontomatios 2 года назад
Pretty easy to understand, most underperforming club in last 20 year only club besides Gold Coast not to make a grandfinal, always overatting there list
@hamishphistopholoes6540
@hamishphistopholoes6540 2 года назад
@J G Soccer: beloved by lady boys the world over.
@stephendunlop4297
@stephendunlop4297 2 года назад
Well this one really hit home but a great video! Really makes you wonder what makes some of these players tick. Hopefully next year is the year it turns around 🤞🏼
@SilentHotdog28
@SilentHotdog28 2 года назад
Good start to this season 3-1 at the moment, I mean don't get your hopes up too high, but at least you can have some hope.
@mynameisgeoff2025
@mynameisgeoff2025 2 года назад
Dude quality vids. Massive respect. Super interesting.
@joeyb4766
@joeyb4766 2 года назад
Just recently discovered your channel man and really digging it, so insightful. Also love EITS great music choice!
@harryruffin1548
@harryruffin1548 2 года назад
Oh this is gonna hurt me. Carlton supporter 18 years, (my entire life).
@kitteguh
@kitteguh 2 года назад
Best AFL content imho. Always insightful, level headed content
@herbernater
@herbernater 2 года назад
Absolutely love this content, this is the GOAT.
@williamboyce1747
@williamboyce1747 2 года назад
Absolutely love the videos you put out mate! Keep it up :)
@harryleonard361
@harryleonard361 2 года назад
This is extremely well made, keep up the awesome stuff mate
@riley3475
@riley3475 2 года назад
i love your vids they're so well recorded and researched into
@joshjames31
@joshjames31 2 года назад
Gone for them my whole life, been pretty much every weekend since being able to take the train in. Been to 65 games since 2016, for just 14 wins. “The good old days” for me, was going in as an 8-13 year old and seeing us scrap it out for finals, been a rough old ride. I was born in late August 2000 and had it summed up when I was told the other day that I am one of the oldest AFL supporters around that wasn’t alive when their team last played a prelim. I turned 21 this year… I’ll still keep backing them though, because when it does turn, boy it’ll be the sweetest thing imaginable.
@PolaryMP
@PolaryMP 2 года назад
i go for melbourne so i know how you feel, and yes it will be amazing when they win their flag
@brettlinsdell6174
@brettlinsdell6174 10 месяцев назад
Should do an update video for 23? Whatdoyareckon?
@RugbyLeagueHistory
@RugbyLeagueHistory 2 года назад
This is a well explained video. I am a Richmond supporter but my grandad was Carlton. I have read about the salary cap drama and all that but it is amazing to see a club like Carlton, the most successful, fall so badly over the last 20 year.
@trcndyy876
@trcndyy876 2 года назад
Ur a legend I go for the blues and ur one of my favourite youtubers good to see this and I love the tittle 😉
@declan8025
@declan8025 2 года назад
it's good to have you back after to months mate.
@footybloke298
@footybloke298 2 года назад
mate, this is the best afl community made video i have watched so far. Awesome stuff mate👍
@alexjays9414
@alexjays9414 2 года назад
Great video, as a Carlton fan myself it’s been a pretty bumpy ride
@kaisahfx1246
@kaisahfx1246 Год назад
if only they knew the power struggle for the club that played and how close we were to folding as a commercial organisations
@felixconboy1156
@felixconboy1156 2 года назад
Love your vids mate.
@SpaceCraig
@SpaceCraig 2 года назад
love ur content
@JoeBetros
@JoeBetros 2 года назад
Really good stuff mate, you've got a knack for storytelling
@quinquiln14
@quinquiln14 2 года назад
Thanks for this video keep em coming bro 👌👌
@TBG.61
@TBG.61 2 года назад
I desperately hope that Voss can help the team back to their former glory
@seffcarter5286
@seffcarter5286 2 года назад
@Soussy who do you support mate?
@northexpressaurora379
@northexpressaurora379 2 года назад
@Soussy 2014 btw what're you hostile for
@northexpressaurora379
@northexpressaurora379 2 года назад
@Soussy I spoke English
@anthonypirera7598
@anthonypirera7598 2 года назад
Well done on a great video we just need to see if they can improve for next year
@jamesaus7727
@jamesaus7727 2 года назад
so awesome man
@patrickmcdonald298
@patrickmcdonald298 2 года назад
Great to to see we’re playing well again in 2022
@KVGKQuake
@KVGKQuake 2 года назад
Though we are only 3 weeks into the season, Carlton looks pretty strong, top to bottom, through those 3 seasons. As a newcomer to the sport, anyone that has had long droughts of success are teams I will root for, as long as they aren't playing squad, the Pies.
@JC4.80
@JC4.80 Год назад
Welll I’m in absolute pain
@1greenMitsi
@1greenMitsi Год назад
lol
@jaydennewlan425
@jaydennewlan425 Год назад
My boyz had a really good year and ppl still say we are bad like fuck off
@KVGKQuake
@KVGKQuake Год назад
@@jaydennewlan425 when you have t had a great squad in a while, it's harder to finish the games that you maybe should
@roryo2040
@roryo2040 2 года назад
Great content as always mate.
@krumplin8992
@krumplin8992 Год назад
It's just absolute peak Carlton to have the Brownlow medalist, Coleman medalist and be inside the 8 all season except for the last 30s of the last game. Just can't make that up
@jacksonfitzgerald235
@jacksonfitzgerald235 2 года назад
Omg yess I’ve been waiting for something like this on the blues ❤️❤️❤️
@jasonmccredden1050
@jasonmccredden1050 2 года назад
Well done immaculate presentation and depth fantastic job your potential is unlimited 👍
@jackpiggott6594
@jackpiggott6594 2 года назад
Really feels good to come from south Melbourne, the swans are bloody constant
@AndrewJames-kt1yj
@AndrewJames-kt1yj 2 года назад
This was brilliant!
@DAVO25008
@DAVO25008 2 года назад
So good watching this with how well the baggers are doing now. UP THE BLUESS
@melvindickweed7891
@melvindickweed7891 Год назад
Oop
@jamesrobson8165
@jamesrobson8165 2 года назад
Great video, heartbreaking to watch as a carlton fan
@c3man
@c3man 2 года назад
Video perfectly sums up carlton
@b0ssman719
@b0ssman719 2 года назад
I love the videos mate keep it up. Also can do a video on the Kennett curse
@jaggerskilbeck
@jaggerskilbeck 2 года назад
ripper idea
@sebastianliggieri8411
@sebastianliggieri8411 2 дня назад
Watching this almost one week after Carlton beat Cats by 63 points midway through this 2024 AFL season. Carlton is finally a great team again.
@johnpetith5523
@johnpetith5523 15 дней назад
Theyre looking pretty good this year, im a Lions fan, but hey, Vossy's the coach so a part of me likes this Blues outfit under him. Great video!
@malkobitches
@malkobitches Год назад
The draft commentary aged well...
@LomuHabana
@LomuHabana 2 месяца назад
Cribbs, Weitering, McKay, Curnow, Walsh. Lots of star players selected here.
@horrorknight3096
@horrorknight3096 2 года назад
Another great video here Jagger! Be great if you could do a video on my Swannies sometime! Keep up the great work!
@officallycracked4631
@officallycracked4631 2 года назад
Im a Collingwood fan and this was a delight to watch Carlton’s struggles
@ethandavies8989
@ethandavies8989 Год назад
Don’t worry 5 years time and you will start back in the same whole we were
@carlton4ever152
@carlton4ever152 2 года назад
The Last bit got me excited
@rafiwerdiger
@rafiwerdiger 2 года назад
Gday I’m ready to watch a video on the team that we beat in round 1 each year lol
@Marcusgtf
@Marcusgtf 2 года назад
short term memory buddy, carlton hold the better win record for round 1 than your mob
@aucata8816
@aucata8816 2 года назад
@@Marcusgtf not recently though.
@risto6895
@risto6895 2 года назад
Hey mate recent subscriber love your vids. Surely coming up is a video about how Collingwood tried to buy a premiership and so drastically fell away
@AussieAzure
@AussieAzure 2 года назад
Omg yes these are so good!!! edit: I just watched the video and as a blues fan myself, I see carlton pushing for finals but as we all know, carlton will probably get their fans hopes alive for finals and just finish on their average of 13th on the ladder.
@Dontomatios
@Dontomatios 2 года назад
2nd worst average in afl in 20 years only team from vfl afl history not to play in a preliminary final in the 21st century
@aussienick4520
@aussienick4520 Год назад
Seeing lots of negativity in these comments about Carlton's performance this year. And yes, it was frustrating to watch our mid-game fadeouts (Hawthorn and Port), losses to non-finalists we could have beaten (St KIlda, Gold Coast, and Adelaide), and that last-quarter fadeout against Collingwood that cost us a finals berth. But I think the assement of this year ought to be tempered with a serious look at our injury luck (or lack thereof). There was a period where we were losing at least one player a week this year and that can't be good for a rebuilding team under a first-year coach, with players in and out of the team all the time. In spite of that, we managed to stay competitive against some of the best teams in the league, knocking off four finals teams (including a top 4 team.) Even amongst the top 4, the only team that beat us comfortably was Geelong, who are capable of doing that to pretty much everyone (and if I recall correctly we were actually in front at quarter time.) Clearly the raw ability is there, so I think the problem with our club is more of a mental one. It's possible that for our list, the pressure this year was a new experience. After being at rock bottom for so long and starting off this year with an 8-3 record before the bye, maybe the pressure of being not just finals contenders - but top 4 potentials - was more than we were ready to handle. Hopefully our last game against Collingwood is a taste of what kind of pressure the players can expect (given that it was basically an Elimination Final for us.) Remember that we missed finals by the smallest of margins (a percentage difference of 0.3) and I think getting so close and missing out will be something that reallly drives the team next year. With some better injury luck and more consistent standards, I do think that the best is yet to come from this Carlton team.
@chipdonovan1773
@chipdonovan1773 Год назад
The fact that blokes like Paddy Dow were getting a run tells you how bad things were for us in terms of depth. There was one point were we had literally every tall back out injured. Hopefully having Acres on the wing and a healthy back line will plug of those holes that rooted us this year. We desperately need to work on our delivery into the 50 this year. Too often we relied on high long bombs into the talls that resluted in rebounded goals against.
@user-ee3mw7cy1d
@user-ee3mw7cy1d 2 года назад
Very sharp well done thank Christ we are 3 from 3
@padzsc
@padzsc 2 года назад
i would love a video about the early 2000's to mid 2010's richmond from going to 9th to last to 9th to last and thrn making finals finally just for us to kose in the elim each time. was a horrific time and you could go earlier into the time when richmond were almost voted out of the league
@Henrysaint23Gaming
@Henrysaint23Gaming 2 года назад
As a saints fan it’s nice to have some teams underperforming worse than us, 2026 GF is saints vs blues you heard it here first
@conorclements5381
@conorclements5381 Год назад
here after the game against the pies last night...maybe next year
@man.of.culture231
@man.of.culture231 Год назад
This is still accurate 2 years later
@CoolumGamer2005
@CoolumGamer2005 2 года назад
i started watching in 2013 and thought oh were kinda good... been shit ever since with a good team on paper but this year im definitely feeling optimistic after we finally beat the tigers in the opening round GO BLUES
@carlton4ever152
@carlton4ever152 2 года назад
Love this vid
@afez2752
@afez2752 2 года назад
Ross Lyon didn't want the job because we didn't just give it to him. Personally i think this was for the best as you said, those that worked hard seem to thrive at Carlton.
@alexg3455
@alexg3455 Год назад
He didn't want the job because he knows Carlton are a lost cause and a basket case of a football club.
@afez2752
@afez2752 Год назад
@@alexg3455 Bro, this is from a year ago. Lol. He didn't apply for it you can't expect to get a job from it. He did show interest.
@afez2752
@afez2752 2 месяца назад
@@alexg3455 Eating your words?
@Charles-SG
@Charles-SG Год назад
I’m a massive blues fan am I think this is definitely true. I live the boys all the way and I couldn’t love em more but sometimes it just brakes you. I’d reckon it’s pretty fair to say that the blues v rubbis- I mean pies rivalry is definitely on top at the moment (I think you all know why and I really don’t think I want to mention). But I reckon we will finally finish in the 8 for the first time in 10 years this year.
@billwilliams2769
@billwilliams2769 2 года назад
So good
@isakketsakidis6636
@isakketsakidis6636 11 месяцев назад
After all this time we have the side to Go on nrxt 5 ,10 yearsc . 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@jacksonlyddy2810
@jacksonlyddy2810 9 месяцев назад
We may finals this year curnow just two colmans in a row crippa a brownlow and weters is one of the best backs in the league
@lukeslayer
@lukeslayer 2 года назад
Don't barrack for Carlton, don't particularly like them but bloody hell that was a brilliant video. Now I remember why I subbed, quality 👌
@bigal4109
@bigal4109 2 года назад
Would be an awesome vid to talk on hawthorns dominance from 2011 -2015 as they hit a prelim loss by 5 grand final loss by 10 than absolutely dominate the next 3 grand finals would be an awesome and interesting video to see
@jj6392
@jj6392 2 года назад
Adding onto this, maybe a video comparing Brisbane's dynasty vs hawks dynasty? Two best teams I've ever seen
@AlexSpurr
@AlexSpurr 16 дней назад
I’m a blues fan myself and was a mess of a club for 2 decades making lots of poor decisions by sacking trading out players to be great at other clubs, I’d say the 2021 off season was the best thing that’s happened in recent memory
@clemboston4723
@clemboston4723 2 года назад
Great video
@sassysasquatch1798
@sassysasquatch1798 2 года назад
wow great vid
@rickyelvis3215
@rickyelvis3215 2 года назад
nice work
@LrdIrving
@LrdIrving 2 года назад
Another video!
@benkumar8894
@benkumar8894 2 года назад
Born in 97 into a Carlton family, been a member since I turned 18. I felt like Malthouse was the wrong the hire, we were too early to fire Bolton and Teague was the wrong hire. A lot of it seemed to come across as money saving moves from the board which was very disappointing. Very glad that we cleared some of the board out. I think that Voss is most definitely the man to lead us to the future and I hope he has the same impact that Beveridge has at the Dogs. 2022 is going to most definitely be an exciting year but I’m not expecting us to go blazing into finals straight away. Just also wanted to say we were happy to let Kennedy go for Judd back then because he was having to play behind Fev and Waite, we thought those 2 would be at the club a lot longer than they did but I’m happier we have McKay playing the way he is now.
@adrianbarichievich7756
@adrianbarichievich7756 2 года назад
blton no ratten and teague yes
@JC4.80
@JC4.80 Год назад
In pain. Who’s here after the worst loss in my lifetime
@AceRememberTheDude
@AceRememberTheDude Год назад
me
@JC4.80
@JC4.80 Год назад
@@AceRememberTheDude 😞
@seven7264
@seven7264 Год назад
So close… so damn close…
@JC4.80
@JC4.80 10 месяцев назад
@@seven7264we finally made it back!! So happy 🥹
@aussiethingz
@aussiethingz 2 года назад
🔥🔥
@barrel_brd_bskt
@barrel_brd_bskt 2 года назад
Great vid
@cadenmt6905
@cadenmt6905 2 года назад
Good vid
@outlawrip-offartist4161
@outlawrip-offartist4161 2 года назад
My grandfather goes for Carlton and always waiting for one magical finals run to bring Carlton back to their all glory, but it never happens.
@ausdip1916
@ausdip1916 2 года назад
His back! :D
@michaelcipriano1713
@michaelcipriano1713 2 года назад
The problem with Carlton was, their past under the late Jack Elliott was a culture of buying flags, they forgot how to build a side from youth. Their last three flags were check book premierships. All other clubs built sides from scratch and pouched a couple of players to put the finishing touch to their lists.
@adrianbarichievich7756
@adrianbarichievich7756 Год назад
this is simply not true
@michaelcipriano1713
@michaelcipriano1713 Год назад
@@adrianbarichievich7756 No, this is simply true. That's why after 95 the Carlton FC was penalised. That's why some players came forward and said we received under the table payments. 95, etc, etc were cheque book premierships.
@adrianbarichievich7756
@adrianbarichievich7756 Год назад
@@michaelcipriano1713 you not a carlton supporter and i dont trust outsiders u are making very angry because that is abloutetly not true those make me angry it is not true for fuck sake i get angry over the 95 flag that we cheated not bloody true
@GoatedAFL7312
@GoatedAFL7312 Год назад
Best video l had ever seen
@spenno5922
@spenno5922 Год назад
annnnnnnd they still miss finals in 2022
@shriekinleada794
@shriekinleada794 2 года назад
Another solid video! We’ll ignore the incorrect title though
@jdk8284
@jdk8284 2 года назад
title is 100% accurate , carlton has a better head to head record than essendon edging them out of the no1 slot
@shriekinleada794
@shriekinleada794 2 года назад
@@jdk8284 and who decides that’s the defining factor?
@jdk8284
@jdk8284 2 года назад
@@shriekinleada794 what else would be the defining factor ???
@shriekinleada794
@shriekinleada794 2 года назад
@@jdk8284 mate your team is hopeless. Just accept it
@jdk8284
@jdk8284 2 года назад
@@shriekinleada794 hahaa now reduced to insults huh , what makes you think i follow carlton ,, ignorance is bliss
@cjw9257
@cjw9257 Год назад
Can only hope
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