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The Greatest Cycling Innovation You've Never Heard Of | Shimano Hyperglide 

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Shimano have rolled out a ton of innovations in bike tech over the years, most of which are pretty obvious to see - electronic shifting is a world away form mechanical, as was indexed shifting when Shimano introduced it with their SIS system. But one invention that changed the game has gone largely under the radar: Shimano Hyperglide changed the way shifting worked forever across the bike industry, Ollie is here to explain why!
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@gcntech
@gcntech 3 года назад
Do you think Hyperglide is one of the most underrated innovations in cycling? Let us know in the comments 👇
@theparalexview785
@theparalexview785 3 года назад
Yup, big improvement over the old Suntour plain tooth freewheels I used to use, and an improvement over Uniglide. Shifting is crisper and it runs more quietly. Although those cleverly shaped teeth in the Hyperglide and the remarkably good and cheap knockoffs by SunRace can be finicky in friction mode -- the ramped/shaped teeth really want the drivetrain to be locked in place with index shifting. In friction mode while trying to trim the lever to reduce chain noise, it'll try to shift when you don't want it to. No such problem with a properly set up index shifting system.
@vicgravelrides
@vicgravelrides 3 года назад
check you facts before posting content , Hmm GCN get your facts right Hyperglide is on both Freewheels and Freehubs, and on that Kirk precision frame Sti shifters would fit easily
@dudeonbike800
@dudeonbike800 3 года назад
Its introduction is almost entirely the cause of Shimano's subsequent domination of the component market back then (before SRAM). Their shifting was head and shoulders above SunTour and Campy, their main competitors. Since "skipping gears" and any other number of complaints about "bad shifting" were the main complaints from customers, the bikes with Shimano quickly outsold those without. It was night and day.
@dudeonbike800
@dudeonbike800 3 года назад
@@bigstu_ that was implemented prior to Hyperglide, but just barely.
@dudeonbike800
@dudeonbike800 3 года назад
@@vicgravelrides It is now. But Hyperglide was introduced on cassettes only, if memory serves. Only later when the cheapo bikes persisted in using freewheels did Shimano utilize the design in freewheels.
@playmoreguitar5393
@playmoreguitar5393 3 года назад
"In Stock" would be a far greater innovation right now!
@Or5mr
@Or5mr 3 года назад
lmaooo
@leqin
@leqin 3 года назад
Followed rapidly by reasonably priced,
@katarzynawojciechowska1097
@katarzynawojciechowska1097 3 года назад
@@leqin wouldn’t put it better myself 😂
@kalenderquantentunnel9411
@kalenderquantentunnel9411 3 года назад
If you are in dire need for a rear-wheel with a fresh sprocket-set: Get a campagnolo-wheel which are easier to come by right now. Their 11s sprocket-sets are interchangeable except for the hub needed. Right now I am using a Shimano cassette on the wahoo kickr with a campa-bike attached to it.
@ricecrash5225
@ricecrash5225 3 года назад
So true ! Ordered a new bike told it could be 4-6 months.
@stellarpod
@stellarpod 3 года назад
I'm 65 years old, and started serious cycling back in the 70's with friction-shifting 5-speed equipment. I can attest firsthand as to the dramatic difference that STI and Hyperglide made in the sport. I've still got a 1990 Bridgestone RADAC 3100 aluminum-framed bike with Dura-Ace (7-speed), which was my first introduction to Hyperglide. Really enjoyed this segment. As always, thanks much for sharing. Steve
@trainiax
@trainiax 3 года назад
After a couple of decades of seeing "Hyperglide" on Shimano gears it's great to know the history behind it!
@wasupwitdat1mofiki94
@wasupwitdat1mofiki94 3 года назад
Ollie is one of the most talented presenters on GCN. I really like his delivery and expressions that send a message. Always able to make one laugh and enjoy the content.
@awen9164
@awen9164 2 года назад
They could do with cloning Ollie and dropping Dan Lloyd
@okreidieh
@okreidieh 3 года назад
Ollie gets so excited its amazing. GCN don't lose him he really brings those videos to life
@gregtaylor6146
@gregtaylor6146 3 года назад
.........OK Ollie, calm down mate, no P45 just yet!
@sergeymaximenko3049
@sergeymaximenko3049 3 года назад
I've heard Ollie is starring in the newest Tesla's promo 'The Greatest Science Innovation You've Never Heard Of' featuring discovery of electricity by Benjamin Franklin back in 18th century. This video sounds to me exactly like that: you've never heard of small electrons that move inside electric wires. [Makes exaggeratedly excited face]
@danielreed5199
@danielreed5199 3 года назад
This man is so passionate about what he does, it is really nice to see, I could listen to anything as long as it comes from a place of passion. Not really that interested in Bicycles but really enjoyed the video, thank you
@ckmaui
@ckmaui 3 года назад
Used to own a bike shop in the 80s and 90s :) fun memories :)
@ohhansel
@ohhansel 3 года назад
That's awesomel. I worked in a really cool bike shop on Haight Street in San Francisco in the early 90s when mountain biking was really starting to come into its own. It was awesome to see the release of so many innovative products like the rock shox, SPD pedals, night sun bike lights(we used to do some awesome night rides up in the Marin headlands and Mount Tamalpais. I can't help but the feel it would be near impossible to own a bike shop nowadays with all the internet bike sales and the bikes in Walmart.
@ckmaui
@ckmaui 3 года назад
@@ohhansel fun chat :) yeah today would be rough and would have to be a warehouse to the estore to make the money but reckon also why service is so high these days and that was where we made money with the markup being so low on bikes I did the PCH about 11 times I think it was in the 80s and 90s from Seattle to Santa Cruz or the bay area was a blast some fun and the traffic while heavy is NOTHING like today cage drivers ;) hahahahah I remember every year stopping in lots of the bikes shops down that way Marin county etc... my first mtn bike was before mtn bikes were really out in full took a old mongoose kos kruiser and put a 5 speed on the rear :) 1980 :)
@ohhansel
@ohhansel 3 года назад
@@ckmaui that is so cool that you did the PCH 11 times. Damn what those were good times working in it shop for those 4 years. I started off maintaining a rental fleet that was used in Golden gate Park. Did it very well and made the owner of the bike shop a lot of money was a great guy to work for. He was really good about letting us buy things and pay him back as we could. We used to joke about being Paul's indentured servants. I saw a ton of unbelievable grateful Dead shows and some of the sweetest mountain biking. I also had this really cool slingshot with all kinds of unique anodized parts on it. What a time.
@ckmaui
@ckmaui 3 года назад
@@ohhansel yeah fun times I still have one of my old road bikes a Rossin and a 1997 I think it is comp fsr :) but now got a epic-evo this year and just kinda having fun at 57 I have went down busted up my front rim etc. so having lots of fun ya could say ! do plan on replacing the wheels and just replace things as they happen ! I can say from my touring days the whole gravel bike thing has peaked my interest but the epic evo is so insane fast and nice and light for my old school days bikes not sure I want a gravel as that bike and a nice new road bike I would be happy :) the 80s and 90s were fun times to see insane changes though and prices were easier to take !!! man todays prices are cringe !
@ohhansel
@ohhansel 3 года назад
@@ckmaui yeah I'm a little baffled to say the least when I run into some 14-year-old kid out there on a $10,000 carbon everything mountain bike. Though my sweetest bike ever was my Spirit of 76 special edition Schwinn stingray. Look just like Evel Knievel's.That one I wish I still had.
@3t3doug
@3t3doug 3 года назад
Hyperglide legitimately changed my life. I was two years in to mountain biking and I upgraded to a1989 Specialized Stumpjumper Team. It transformed mtb capabilities. I lived on a bike saddle for the next several years and I sincerely believe that wouldn't have been the case had I not found this magical new tech.
@antoinedoinell
@antoinedoinell 3 года назад
i've ridden and worked on uniglide,let's just say i'm very happy shimano came out with hyperglide. uniglide was a self tightening pain to take off, but it was cool you could flip the cogs and basically get yourself a new cassette minus the lock ring.
@jussa101
@jussa101 3 года назад
Hahaha that's awesome
@TheHaining
@TheHaining 3 года назад
I find they come off without any problem with the two chain whips - great fun messing around with all these parts. I feel like a professional mechanic!
@danwebber9494
@danwebber9494 3 года назад
The lockring is as tight as the rider is strong. Some monster with tree trunks for legs can make it pretty hard to remove.
@stephensaines7100
@stephensaines7100 3 года назад
I've got to disagree on 'second life' flipping Uniglide cogs. It can be done, but you'll need a file or grinder to get them to work properly. Lots online on this. The cogs aren't symmetrical, and the centre line of the teeth is offset slightly from the cog body.
@jaisejohnson
@jaisejohnson 3 года назад
This just multiplied my appreciation towards modern day bikes by 10.
@mark..A
@mark..A 3 года назад
That they fall apart if you breathe on them?
@CyberlightFG
@CyberlightFG 3 года назад
0*10=0
@bossg2817
@bossg2817 3 года назад
I'll wait for claris Di2
@Dan1147
@Dan1147 3 года назад
Haha wait for like 10 more years
@itarry4
@itarry4 3 года назад
Can't see that happening.
@r0mpastompa
@r0mpastompa 3 года назад
@@itarry4 It will come for sure, the current Claris has a lot of Dura-Ace/Ultegra Tech from the last generations only with less gears and cheaper materials. The feeling is almost the same.
@user-tm7ym8gu8i
@user-tm7ym8gu8i 3 года назад
Just buy the Ultegra di2 bastard
@biketech60
@biketech60 3 года назад
Cassettes were a huge improvement over freewheels for nearly totally eliminating broken axles on the rear . Before Hyperglide if you wore out two cogs most used you could replace them for a few Dollars each . Also any gear combination could be made where Hyperglide is limited . After Hyperglide the cost was at least fourfold as the cogs and spider were replaced as a unit . Greater Shimano profit . Don't ask about their problematic early electronic shifting . I worked full time as a bicycle mechanic from the early 80's until 2016 .
@nzo_6543
@nzo_6543 Год назад
Freewheels' maximum cogs sizes are like around 32 or 36t, which it's pretty limited when going uphill,
@rienabelazotes7558
@rienabelazotes7558 Год назад
Wow that frame .the best.
@brian_jake
@brian_jake Год назад
@@nzo_6543 bikes that come with freewheel have triple crankset. 24/34 or 24/36 is very low
@nzo_6543
@nzo_6543 Год назад
@@brian_jake yes that's why they have a 3x/2x to go uphill, but if the crankset is 1x, which you really not gonna go uphill
@ageary
@ageary 3 года назад
I remember Shimano first introduced Hyperglide in the MTB XT groupset in the late 80's. It was a game changer. It then followed onto the road and became the benchmark in shifting.
@ralflang5524
@ralflang5524 3 года назад
It was a game changer for wear, UG shifted a little rougher but lastet more than twice the mileage especially when chains were changed right in time…
@trackie1957
@trackie1957 3 года назад
I got it on my ‘89 Rockhopper. That bike was my introduction to SPD, too. MTB was exploding with innovations in that era because it was a relatively new market unencumbered by the rigid traditions of the Euro road world.
@Zegswijze
@Zegswijze 3 года назад
Probably the most unknown innovation. I've been riding bikes with this technology for years and i wasn't even aware of its existence until last year when I saw the word 'hyperglide' printed on my new cassette. It's less visible in comparison with STI for example.
@zauberwort
@zauberwort 3 года назад
There's mostly just "HG" printed on or etched in anywhere, to which it is hard to put meanig to.
@imax2go
@imax2go 3 года назад
Well i rode mountain bikes in that era, the difference was night and day. It also came with a 7th gear, up from 6.
@Zegswijze
@Zegswijze 3 года назад
@@zauberwort The 8-speed cassette on my e-bike was the first one I saw with hyperglide spelled out full.
@truracer20
@truracer20 3 года назад
Its less "visile" because in modern times it's the most basic. And when it was new technology it was mostly only accessible to the wealthier cyclists. Back before taking out a multi year loan for a bicycle was a thing.
@matthewrepucci3564
@matthewrepucci3564 3 года назад
Lol, I was cleaning my cassette the other day and wondering about the different teeth shape etc... I figured there was a good reason behind it. Thanks Ollie!
@nathanmclain9027
@nathanmclain9027 3 года назад
LOVE your enthusiasm for bike mechanicals and history. More of this. It’s brilliant!
@GrotrianSeiler
@GrotrianSeiler 3 года назад
This has to be one of your best videos. Ollie’s presenting skills keep us waiting for the next one. Just great!
@johnnydwicked
@johnnydwicked 3 года назад
I could hear the tech geek in Ollie's enthusiasm. :)
@shellypalumbo5297
@shellypalumbo5297 3 года назад
To a newbie, information like this is fascinating. Please do more of these, Ollie!
@NeutralGenericUser
@NeutralGenericUser 3 года назад
That was an amazing video. Thank you so much. I hadn't heard of GCN Tech channel before, but I'm glad I found it. This is, IMO, far superior to usual GCN content. Ollie is a legend!
@kalenderquantentunnel9411
@kalenderquantentunnel9411 3 года назад
Finally, the System and its evolution well explained without skipping the Homo Erectus of Sprocket-Sets, Uniglide... in detail! Big Thumbsup for that! :)
@mrsmith4662
@mrsmith4662 3 года назад
Ollie is the master of these short technical presentations! Great stuff.
@sdmike1141
@sdmike1141 3 года назад
Nice piece Ollie! These deeper looks into bike tech and history are great.
@rafeevans
@rafeevans 3 года назад
Being 60 (!) I remember well when hyperglide first became available in the 80s. This video understandably gets it all wrong, because its makers aren't old enough to have been there for the introduction. The important innovation was that you could finally shift under full power, not that shifting was somehow made 'more precise'. Shifting was always just fine when coasting or pedaling lightly but quite impossible when hammering - chains would twist, seize and mangle and could be ruined. Hyperglide was an even bigger deal for the mtb crowd because you could finally downshift under full power on technical climbs.
@BixbyConsequence
@BixbyConsequence 3 года назад
Agreed. Having cut my teeth on the old equipment, I still generally back off the torque when shifting even though I know the new stuff can take it. I still love the feeling of the chain falling into place like tumblers in a lock.
@guillermobright3617
@guillermobright3617 3 года назад
He did mention the ability to shift under power.
@trainiax
@trainiax 3 года назад
I don't see the issue. Most of the mentions of "precision" refer to the position of the sprockets and how the chain crosses the gears - not the derailleur alignment or shifter operation. But it also seems to me that the ability to shift without having the chain "twist, seize and mangle" inherently means that that the shifting performance at the level of the cassette and chain is more precise. But then when Ollie goes into real-world performance, one of the first things he mentions after 5:02 is the ability to change gear under load.
@maximilianklein2062
@maximilianklein2062 3 года назад
I noticed that I had a problem when I - as a German - walked into a German bike shop and had to ask if the mechanic spoke English because I didn't know many German bike terms...realizing that all my knowledge about tech comes from GCN
@rainbowlable
@rainbowlable 3 года назад
can feel you! 😄 I'm still wondering what the "hoods" are called in German. any idea?
@herzog2604
@herzog2604 3 года назад
@@rainbowlable must be "Schlüpfer"
@rainbowlable
@rainbowlable 3 года назад
@@herzog2604 seriously??? 😂😂😂 guess i stick with 'hoods' then 🙈
@Ob_Bashar
@Ob_Bashar 3 года назад
@@rainbowlable we are calling them "Hörner"
@rainbowlable
@rainbowlable 3 года назад
@@Ob_Bashar klingt irgendwie sinnvoll. danke! 😊
@brockjennings
@brockjennings 3 года назад
I still vividly recall seeing a pair of Campagnolo Delta brakes in a display case at the local bike shop. Back then, they looked like alien technology.
@gungadinn
@gungadinn 2 года назад
A case of form over function. The Delta’s were beautiful, but a set of ugly hydraulic disc brakes will stop on a dime with 9 cents in change.
@charlesward8196
@charlesward8196 3 года назад
I started out with Huret Alvit shifters and derailleurs on my first 10-speed in 1966, and had that bike until 1990 or so, then took a break from bike riding until around 2008 when I bought a Specialized Crosstrail. The bike world sure had changed! Instead of “side-yanker brakes, I had BB-5 cable actuated ball-bearing disc brakes, and Shimano Deore handlebar mounted index shifters, so I am guessing it also came with the Hyperglide cassette. There has been a bit of a learning curve since I do all of my own bike maintenance and fine tuning brakes and the shifter required some RU-vid videos. I was pleased by how easy shifting was on a modern bike, and now I know why. Thanks for the content.
@AlanW2007
@AlanW2007 3 года назад
The straight-through "corncob" he uses for comparison is ace!
@silvanherold8562
@silvanherold8562 3 года назад
Never seen someone beeing so exited about splines and threads as Ollie. Love it!
@crackinting194
@crackinting194 3 года назад
I’m not particularly techie but Ollies enthusiasm carries you along. Really enjoyed that! I am officially a potential saddo!
@kaltonian
@kaltonian 3 года назад
no i remember hyperglide, i was getting into racing and loved the tech coming out at the time, i jumped straight on it because it was so much better under load exspecially when racing, ooooh what an advantage
@sevintrix2962
@sevintrix2962 3 года назад
The '80's was a hotbed of tech. I remember the days I poured over bike mags soaking in the latest.
@coffeepot3123
@coffeepot3123 3 года назад
And the pages were all glued together from the previous guy reading etc.
@sevintrix2962
@sevintrix2962 3 года назад
@@coffeepot3123 eeeeww
@yewnammak750
@yewnammak750 3 года назад
This is truly good insight, thanks Thanks GCN
@kevinyap1757
@kevinyap1757 3 года назад
Amazing content GCN! Keep these coming!
@bikemike1118
@bikemike1118 3 года назад
The greatest cycling innovation…they found out that a bottom bracket should definitely be threaded
@jinlim6575
@jinlim6575 3 года назад
hello press fit bmx...
@abccanada6248
@abccanada6248 3 года назад
Threaded still has its weaknesses. If they couldnt properly deal with press fits those companies sure asf didnt fet any better with threaded bb's
@bikemike1118
@bikemike1118 3 года назад
@@abccanada6248 no company can properly deal with press fit in the long run. There are TWO reasons for them to deal with it (still) even though it’s inferior: 1) less cost 2) a little less weight …which helps to argue the first reason for them. And for the colleague above with the BMX argument….this is BS …nobody rides miles and miles a year with a BMX. In case you didn’t know: this is a bike for really short tracks and tricks …not mileage!!
@abccanada6248
@abccanada6248 3 года назад
@@bikemike1118 all bearings are press fit in cycling. Your just threadding in shells that have bearing pre pressed in to them with threaded bottom brackets. And when dealing with alloy to carbon bonding for the threads you are dealing with much sloppier tolerances then with press fits
@bikemike1118
@bikemike1118 3 года назад
@@abccanada6248 true…Carbon and Aluminium is a toxic mixture. I do prefer a titanium frame (but that’s a different story). Anyway…the trend including „trendy manufacturers“ already go away from pressfit again …at least for mountain bikes.
@meibing4912
@meibing4912 9 месяцев назад
Shimano made gear shifting so much better from when I started racing in the 1980's. The biggest upgrades where Hyperglide, STI so you could keep your hands on the bars and "click"-shifting making shifting faster and safer. Upgraded to electronic (Ultegra 12 speed Di2) last year. A joy to use!
@martinandersson5833
@martinandersson5833 3 года назад
Another great video! Thanks Ollie👍👏
@Christian-cz9bu
@Christian-cz9bu 3 года назад
I guess some of us are old enough to remember the change in rear sprockets, I immediately recognized the ramps and chamfers were for smoother shifting...
@JasonDBike
@JasonDBike 3 года назад
I have ridden both, the difference isn't that wild. Thanks for the very interesting background!
@TheDarKris
@TheDarKris 3 года назад
I'm gonna be that guy and say - I been knew about hyperglide. Took it for granted obviously, but with all my 8 speed cassettes having the big-ol "hyperglide" badge on them it was hard for me not to know about it 😅
@peet4921
@peet4921 3 года назад
I was about to say something similar, using them for ages, but my initial thought was ''Hey, a new invention....................... ehh hyperglide ? New kind of hyperglide ?'' Nope, very very old news.
@hankhankerson3622
@hankhankerson3622 2 года назад
I actually remember having g the discussion with people back in the day that their cassettes weren’t worn out like he described in the video. What a throwback.
@3Max
@3Max 7 месяцев назад
Fascinating video, thanks! I had always seen this feature on my cassette, but thought it might just be an artistic design choice. Very cool!
@chrisburn7178
@chrisburn7178 3 года назад
Had a weird thing at 0:29 when I recognised the few seconds of music and spent some minutes remembering what it was. Supposed to be 80s synth but in fact from a 2019 album by electronic guru Brendon Moeller.
@jasonmcgrody9472
@jasonmcgrody9472 3 года назад
This is such a good presentation I don't even care at all that this is an ad. Exceptionally well-done.
@kdstoffel7574
@kdstoffel7574 3 года назад
I just wish they’d engineer some product onto the empty shelves of bike shops across America. 👍🏽
@captainbozo01
@captainbozo01 3 года назад
Not just America, it's a worldwide problem 😭
@ptbot3294
@ptbot3294 3 года назад
Sorry not enough computer chip to go into your tyre buds
@hjeffwallace
@hjeffwallace 3 года назад
We just lost our local bike shop.
@bikemike1118
@bikemike1118 2 года назад
Pandemics fault
@davidmorse6290
@davidmorse6290 3 года назад
Beautiful presenting, Oliver. Subscribed. 😍
@trackie1957
@trackie1957 3 года назад
The chain was mentioned almost in passing. Around the time of UG, chains changed dramatically. Instead of two side plates, a pin, a bushing and a roller, the bushing was eliminated. This produced a chain that was much more flexible laterally. This new flexibility made Hyperglide possible. The new sprocket shapes and flexible chain work wonderfully on older bikes without index shifting as well. I had a 1970’s Motobecane tandem with bar end shifters. I bought a new 6-speed Hyperglide freewheel and chain for it and it transformed the shifting.
@Rose_Butterfly98
@Rose_Butterfly98 3 года назад
Definitely heard of it. It says on their website. Did not know that hyperglide was why the spline system was made though. Honestly thought we'd used splines all the time.
@stephensaines7100
@stephensaines7100 3 года назад
"We" did. Shimano certainly didn't invent splined freewheel bodies and cogs. Maillard and others long predated them: www.yellowjersey.org/helico.html With a file and bench vise, the extra 'key' tooth on can be shaped/removed to make Uni and Maillard cogs compatible.
@punusha
@punusha 3 года назад
Wow Video. I liked it after watching it for 2 mins. Very informative. Thanks.
@TheDrAkira
@TheDrAkira 3 года назад
That yellow bike looks AMAZING. I really want one now
@johnspooner1403
@johnspooner1403 3 года назад
Huh. I have one of those hybrid freehub bodies. I was changing my 1989 Centurion Dave Scott Master from Uniglide to Hyperglide and found it at the local "community" bike shop bin-o-parts. Worked great. I still have all the Uniglide parts as well, including the chain!
@dudeonbike800
@dudeonbike800 3 года назад
Ah, but is it one WIDER spline, or one NARROWER spline? THAT is the question!* I remember the introduction of Hyperglide. Lots of criticism of the reduced tooth profile, leading to faster wear was the main complaint. Oh, and that you couldn't use older cogs. And that users couldn't pick "custom" gear combinations anymore. The old cog boards in shops quickly disappeared. *I've always considered the wider open space. Others look for the narrow spline. Tomato, tomahto, I guess!
@PrzemyslawSliwinski
@PrzemyslawSliwinski 3 года назад
Both! Otherwise one could put the cogs in the other way. And yes, I would also like to be able to replace the smallest four cogs separately.
@bigdredre3725
@bigdredre3725 3 года назад
When talking about the uniglide system you didn’t mention the single “w” cut tooth to enable better shifting
@jefferycampbell2243
@jefferycampbell2243 3 года назад
Ugh! This video sent me down a rabbit hole researching the hub/cassette on my Shimano Sante group set that I purchased new in the late 80's and is still in great condition. I think it's a uniglide (indexed and shaped teeth but no ramps) with SIS down tube shifters. What's cool is that the shifters can be changed on the fly for either friction or "click" indexed operation.
@RudiDwiHartanto
@RudiDwiHartanto 3 года назад
3 weeks to go before Shimano new groupset! cant wait
@frankyfung6491
@frankyfung6491 3 года назад
yes its only logical for shimano to bring out a new groupset when gcn finish this series
@RudiDwiHartanto
@RudiDwiHartanto 3 года назад
@@frankyfung6491 hopefully they gonna release all the dura ace ultegra and 105 at the same time just like they did with xtr xt and slx
@MJarthur95
@MJarthur95 3 года назад
Hope we finally get a 12 speed full wireless dura ace & di2 105
@akdiddy666
@akdiddy666 3 года назад
I had a hard time sourcing my DuraAce 7403 rear 8 speed hub. It has a rounded acorn nut to help spread the frame for the newer 130mm. I love old DA stuff. Such great history
@guillermobright3617
@guillermobright3617 3 года назад
absolutely love your style, delivery. funny AF.!
@gbye007
@gbye007 3 года назад
Fantastic series. Well done.
@mattyfrommacc1554
@mattyfrommacc1554 Год назад
I've used both HG and UG, HG was a massive improvement and provides silky-smooth shifts even under load
@elmarko9051
@elmarko9051 2 года назад
Hyperglide also has great compatibility across the years. Any 6, 7 , or 8 sprocket cassette is compatible width-wise with any other of the same count. 9 and up get a little weird. I purchased a bike with an 11-21, not enough ratio for hills for my liking. I purchased two E-bay HG 8 speed cassettes, an 11-28 and a 11-32. Everything is compatible and the spline hub accepted everything I gave it. I got the gearing I need, and the shifting is pretty quiet and fast.
@biggaywizard
@biggaywizard 3 года назад
I'm not only viscerally familiar with hyperglide but I'm also familiar with that frame. I was an apprentice race mechanic when those came out!!
@edjack1993
@edjack1993 3 года назад
Just watched this and the Sean Kelly vid. Only had hit a purple patch of form 👏🏻 Personally, I think historical bike tech is a fascinating subject. So much content...
@jeffbrunton3291
@jeffbrunton3291 3 года назад
I have that rare Dura ace hub that does both uniglide or hyper glide. It came with domed nuts so it can squeeze into a 126 rear or a 130 rear. Still using it today (with a 10 speed cassette), it’s very versatile
@jeremyemilio9378
@jeremyemilio9378 9 месяцев назад
Are you selling it?
@andrewonmyway8184
@andrewonmyway8184 3 года назад
Excellent presentation Ollie of a much underated idea we all take for granted today. Now where are those unboxed uniglide chains I had lying around?
@michaeltillman886
@michaeltillman886 3 года назад
I really like the information given about sprocket arrangement; Some-of which I've never thought about. Now, I have noticed the pattern, but never gave it a thought. Great video! Now, just out of curiosity. What type of frame were you rolling on? A very interesting design to say the lease.
@76horsepower
@76horsepower 3 года назад
I still ride a lugged steel road bike from the mid-1980s. It has its original Shimano 600 components - including a Uniglide hub - but when I wanted to change the gear ratios, I switched out the Uniglide cassette for a modern Hyperlide one, along with a Hyperglide chain. Even with the old friction shifters, the difference is absolutely night and day in the shifting smoothness and precision. So yes, I very much appreciate Shimano's engineering in this area.
@BenKloos
@BenKloos 3 года назад
This video interchanged the term freewheel and cassette, the most dastardly of cycling nomenclature flubs.
@dnaturalblues
@dnaturalblues 3 года назад
Thanks for making my day w the use of dastardly
@ISeeNoCheezburger
@ISeeNoCheezburger 3 года назад
if there's anyone who are using a mountain bike, you should have heard about the hyperglide+. it shifts more smoothly than the regular hyperglide.
@siddhant5068
@siddhant5068 3 года назад
Waiting for GCN's review on Shimano New Electronic Brake System.
@CreatureSkateboardC2
@CreatureSkateboardC2 3 года назад
Awesome video, makes me proud to be riding shimano xt on my bike
@gregknipe8772
@gregknipe8772 3 года назад
great show, thank you.
@JohanLarssonKiruna
@JohanLarssonKiruna 2 года назад
I've used a wide range uniglide cassette for a long time, and have to say it works really well. There's a bit more noise when shifting, and it can take a fraction of a second longer before the chain engages, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. I suspect it will last five times longer than any hyperglide cassette, looking at the contact area between the chain and sprockets.
@AlienofAndromeda
@AlienofAndromeda 3 года назад
Very cool video and that bike is just WOW👀
@stevendaddyrue8026
@stevendaddyrue8026 3 года назад
Well done Ollie cool bike history as always
@mark..A
@mark..A 3 года назад
I had shimano dx deore components on my offroad proflex 752 that i bought in jan 1992. The cassette and chain were hyperglide. I want to restore this beautiful bike one of these days
@tomcruz3774
@tomcruz3774 3 года назад
Of all the places to hear about home and away I wasn't expecting it from ollie, let alone gcn
@JohanLarssonKiruna
@JohanLarssonKiruna 2 года назад
Anyway, if maybe not underrated but more taken for granted and forgotten, I think the biggest innovation in cycling is pneumatic tires. And that is such a big thing there's nothing else even coming close.
@DiabloOutdoors
@DiabloOutdoors 3 года назад
Ollie has a unique talent to make all the videos very interesting!
@davidkline4372
@davidkline4372 3 года назад
I remember seeing those magnesium framesets' ads in the back of Bicycling Mag back in the late 80's when I first started riding seriously. They were and still are wild looking. I heard they were pretty brittle though. Cool to see one still intact and looking untouched!
@nawwk79
@nawwk79 3 года назад
British accent instantly makes everything more legit.
@grabslide
@grabslide 3 года назад
And annoying
@brian_jake
@brian_jake 2 года назад
@@grabslide no
@nafeesnamedit
@nafeesnamedit 2 года назад
@@grabslide no
@Joe__Tech
@Joe__Tech 2 года назад
Shimano Hyperglide was presented back in 1987/88. At that time I have been driven the Sachs eloptoid drive, also available by Shimano as „Biopace“.
@peterschuttinga3961
@peterschuttinga3961 3 года назад
I enjoyed a early version on a Giant Chronos. Crank up a hill and shift in either direction was pretty cool. Within in a year though I started breaking chains. The fourth break took out the rear derailleur, locked up the rear wheel, wore off a brand new tire and screwed up the rim. I was doing about 45KPH on the flat coming off a hill. Never again.
@guilhermearielmachado9669
@guilhermearielmachado9669 3 года назад
I'm so grateful for Shimano had been created these technologies, although they are failing in MT GROUP SETS and SRAM is getting bigger like GX airless.
@WmSrite-pi8ck
@WmSrite-pi8ck 3 года назад
Some questions (because I didn't really understand, well, anything): what's a cassette; what is a sprocket; what is a shimano; what is a downtube; what is a D2 STI lever; what is a cog (in this conterxt); what is a ramp; what is a freehub; what is a spline; what is a lockring; what is a chamfer? Really great video, mate. I loved hearing about this technology that I'd never even considered before. And, if I knew what in the fuck you were talking about, I'd be over the moon.
@royharkins7066
@royharkins7066 2 года назад
Back on my bike, yrs have passed since my last ride, and I was amazed at how things have changed since the sixties , the cassettes are things of beauty, so much so I took one to bed along with head torch to really look at it, the gilf thought I was bonkers , ..
@theparalexview785
@theparalexview785 3 года назад
I noticed this when moving up from my old friction shift road bikes with plain tooth cogs, especially the older Suntour Alpha freewheels. Switching to SunRace chromed freewheels with nicely shaped teeth really improved shifting. I even prefer the SunRace 7- and 8-speed chromed cassettes over some of the older Shimano Hyperglide cassettes. The SunRace shift more crisply and run more quietly with both my older Suntour Accushift and various Shimano SIS setups. Ollie looks a bit uncomfortable with those long cranks on that TVM Kirk Precision. Reminds me, I need to ditch the 175 cranks on my Diamondback Podium in favor of 170 cranks. Technically 175 fit me, but they never feel quite right and pedaling always feels a bit labored, and it's a chore to get the saddle/seat post height just right. I didn't realize how much difference crank length made until I bought an older Trek 5900 from a friend who set it up with 170 cranks because that's what he had in the shop. Felt perfect.
@timocallaghan4408
@timocallaghan4408 3 года назад
Combine chromed cassette with wax and the ti-coated KMC chains like the x10el for super smooth and quiet drivetrain
@JazzFunkSouldier
@JazzFunkSouldier 2 года назад
remember the day well, changing from down tube shifters Record sprint to Shimano 600STI on a Dyna-tech 705, when we kept training charts on the wall, shaved 2min off on the first day out. never looked back since
@hornet224
@hornet224 2 года назад
I have a new road bike with a Shimano 105, a new gravel bike with GRX810, and a old hard tail MB with a SRAM Duo Drive. The later is the better drive train hands-down! Shifts faster, smoother, requires little maintenance, almost bullet proof and I can change gears while stopped. Plus the hand grip shifter is super convenient to use. SRAM - Please bring it back.
@SuperNeilMartin
@SuperNeilMartin 3 года назад
Shimano 105 Di2 🙏🏻
@Xesh001
@Xesh001 3 года назад
A few points: 1:22 what you have there isn't a freehub body (which is attached to the wheel) it's a freewheel (which screws onto the wheel). Directional chains weren't used by Shimano until relatively recently (around 2010 or so) and they are usually for 10 speed drivetrains and upwards. Mavic had its Zap electronic shifting on Tour bikes in 1992 but it didn't turn out to be very reliable (especially in the rain). They also had a bit of a run in with the UCI when their aero shifter was retro-actively banned, after being told that it would comply with UCI regulations (this was after they started making it too)! Shimano obviously learned from this when designing their Di2 system! The first Dura Ace (Di2) and Ultegra (Ui2) systems weren't compatible either, as Dura Ace had redundant connections in the wiring, and Ultegra didn't - the connectors were different. As far as the "launch" of Hyperglide goes it wasn't a public launch as such. In fact Shimano thought of it as more an evolution of Uniglide and not a completely new technology - hence the very similar names. I do remember that most HG cassettes had "Hyperglide" emblazoned on the large sprocket in a very noticeable colour (red mainly), but later on they toned it down a bit on the higher end groupsets. Most shop staff, at least where I worked, were told by the reps that came around to emphasize how hyperglide made shifting under load much smoother than before, because of the tooth profiles. I don't actually recall that anyone complained about faulty cassettes though. They did, however, complain about the "broken" teeth on the chainset, as 3 or 4 teeth on the middle chainring (of the triple setups) were twisted to aid shifting up from the small ring. This was usually on the cheaper groupsets, which were more commonly used by the "less technically inclined" cyclists, whereas higher groupsets used proper pins for shifting. This was, however, in the early 90s with the introduction of Hyperdrive - the equivalent of HG but for the chainset. If you want to know about an unsuccessful Shimano shifting technology then look no further than IG. This was an attempt to improve on HG and make it even smoother. It was designed to only let the chain shift at specific points on both the cassette and the chainset (in both directions). The problem was that if you happened to shift at the wrong point then the shift wouldn't happen until the chain reached one of the shift areas. Needless to say most people didn't like the much slower shifting and it also became much more sketchy under load with a worn chain! As far as I can remember this only appeared on mid-range groupsets and not the ones the pros would use. A lot of Tour riders in the early 90s would actually use the downtube shifters in preference to STI on their bikes for the mountain stages, as they were lighter. I wouldn't be surprised if that Kirk bike was specced for a mountain stage.
@secretdaisy6484
@secretdaisy6484 3 года назад
I have always been an early adopter. I had a mountain bike 🚵‍♀️ and a hybrid with Hyperglide. It was great. I did however ride my late 80s racing bike 🚴 with SIS down tube shifters for a decade because I really loved the bike. Once I got Campy ergo shifters on a new bike everything changed for my road riding. I also liked SRAM Gripshifts on my hybrid and mountain bikes 🚲 when they came out. 👍☮️🌞🌟🚲
@brutalwang4106
@brutalwang4106 3 года назад
I imagine lots of people know about Hyperglide, as its printed on the cassette. But I appreciate the explanation :)
@jaydekaytv
@jaydekaytv 3 года назад
Great vid! 👌
@blinkyMtGoat
@blinkyMtGoat 3 года назад
I like the Kirk Precision bikes. I still have my frame. It rode like a wet noodle though. It was so flexible my paint was cracking off the frame.
@user-vp1sc7tt4m
@user-vp1sc7tt4m 3 года назад
Some may have forgotten that Suntour introduced the slant-parallelogram derailleur and indexed shifting well before Shimano but it never caught on. Shimano came to market with a similar system and was able to promote it well enough that it took over Suntour's Accushift indexed system along with Campagnolo, Simplex and Huret.... and Shimano rose to the top. I always felt bad for Suntour. I loved the Suntour Accushift system, derailleur's , cranks, hubs and brakes!
@aldoclausi3955
@aldoclausi3955 3 года назад
Worth mentioning Hyperglide came from the exploding MTB scene. Most road bike freewheel had a jump of 1 to 2 teeth ok for smooth shifting but MTB had 4 or even more teeth jump and the chain could not ramp up or down without mashing. Also the name was pattened not the design of the ramps. Its just normal wear pattern.
@danielhall3895
@danielhall3895 3 года назад
Great comment mentioning this! It's the reaserch and development investment in the early stages of mountain bike components in the early 80s that made both Shimano and Sun Tour competitive when they brought those innovations over to road bikes, and led to Shimano catching Campagnolo by the late 80s. All the other European manufacturers fell on hard times while ignoring the oppurtunity of the growing mountainbike market for too long.
@e-type_driver
@e-type_driver 3 года назад
just changed a Hyperglide cassette on my vintage MTB yesterday.
@daviddedick14
@daviddedick14 3 года назад
Agree completely - Brilliant engineering.
@AJFixie
@AJFixie 3 года назад
I think it's damn amazing tech, how they came up with the keyed system so that each sprocket could only be placed in the right position and also only the right way round. Very ingenious.
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 3 года назад
Nah, the keyed system is a completely standard way of aligning things. It _is_ a neat idea, but it's not Shimano's.
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