The Hack SHIMANO Doesn't WANT YOU TO SEE! (Drop Bar CUES...NOW?!) 

Sramano: CUEM! Finally, a worthy opponent! 😂

The cog spacing is different between HG and CUES. This combo of Sword + CUES would most likely not work with a 10 speed CUES (Linkglide) cassette, because those have the same (narrower) cog spacing as 11 speed CUES except with one fewer cog.

@@RikvanHuik Even HG 10 speed and HG 11 speed are very similar spacing. I think @LockedIn did a video interchanging them with no complaints.

Everyone laughed at Sean Connery until they realized he was dropping sick nicknames for hybrid groupsets.

@@bendekker6552 interesting, I didn't expect that. Good to know.

@@Pellagrah Haha! I thought the same thing when I read the "Shword" suggestion. "I'll take 'shword' for $100 Alex."

Nice setup! 🤌Really like it. You inspired me to use my old Campy Xenox and build something like you did.

That's a good one! And those Claris brifters are really cheap and quite nice!

I've used that one some old 2x and 3x bikes that I was replacing the worm out cassette with a larger range one. Really good range. And derailleur. It does not have the clutch that the grx, sword or cues derailleurs have.

I bought 1 of those derailleurs too after Russ reviewed it. I have it set up with 44-26 chainrings and an old 5 speed wide range freewheel 14-38t. Friction shifting and it works great.

​@@RikvanHuik The 2nd gen Claris brifters are way better than the old ones. And quite budget friendly. 👍

That sounds like a cool combo.

Yes. I am putting an LG 11 speed on my commuter as well. And unable to find a road shifter that is compatible for me to do the drop bar conversion. The bike has hydraulic discs, it feels weird to have a road hydraulic brake lever but not using it to shift.

So far only friction shifters will do. Old non-indexing brifters from Shimano, Sachs or Campy can be a solution. For commuting they should be o.k.🤔

I'm testing it for The People. We all have to make sacrifices sometimes.

Hey I just want to make sure I understand everything correctly. index shifting is the common shifting with one click is one shift up or down in other words index shifting is the not-friction-shifting - shifting (?)

@@viktor1511 yes

RD-RX400 works great with all of Shimano's road 11 speed shifters as well. Remember as long as the cable pull ratio is the same, the number of speeds is determined by only the shifter.

@@lastfm4477 good point, thank you!

Which is probably more useful of a hack cause the $ is in the Hydraulic briefters & stoppers for off roading...but to each their own needs

I honestly have no interest in the Ali products and will leave that to Trace Velo and Chinacycling.

@@PathLessPedaledTV Yeah I get it, especially you not being a big fan of the hydro stuff, as with LT-Woo that was when there was a noticeable jump in quality/design. I will say, though, if you haven't been on there in a while, the general quality of the stuff on Ali' has dramatically improved over the last 2-3 years, and now with the "choice" thing they do you can get things in days not months.

@@PathLessPedaledTV Yet you tested microshift, which is basically the same stuff.

@wtfiswiththosehandles basically the same stuff except you don't have to go through Ali and its actually speced OEM on bikes of legitimate brands and they have US based customer service so if something goes wrong you have people you can contact. So basically the same I guess.

Maxed it out and not enough. Also downshifts suffered.

@@PathLessPedaledTV Try installing the lower pulley 1-2 teeth larger than stock.

Deore M5120 and m5130 even have clutch like Cues U8020!

No, it’s mounted correctly. The GRX has a “shadow link” or shimano’s extra derailleur hanger, the cues mounts directly to the hanger without the extra link

Oh wait sorry I didn’t watch the rest of the video! You right 😅

Or even try tightening the b limit screw a bunch

M5120 RD + Cues Linkglide 11-43T cassette!

1x or 2x?

@@PathLessPedaledTV I was thinking mostly 1x, but heck, I'd love to see it 2x worked too

@@PathLessPedaledTV M5120 is both 1x and 2x compatible.

What shifters do you use on the gravel bike?

Only necessary with newer generation of rear derailleurs. 11spd and up.

No roadlink needed.

@@PathLessPedaledTV thanks! By the way, you really helped with your rd-m3020 review, now have it on my bike, rocking an 11-40 cassette with 46/30 in front and sora shifters :) Love your experiments and bike hacking!

Yes. But you need tandem length shift cables for the rear cable. Standard road cables are too short.

You can totally run it under the tape to the headtube area. Been doing it for years with regular shifting cables.

Why is that weird? 5800 & R7000 are 100% cross compatible. I've used Tiagra 4700 10sp shifters, with 6800-SS RD, 44x33T, and 12-36T cassette with no problems. (36T is definitely the max teeth for this setup.

10spd dynasis for sure.

But shifting often suffers at that point.

As yet, no. I'm looking forward to the next generation of microShift road shifters, which will probably share the features of Sword.

Likely won't work with CUES.

I've measured some Shimano 10s road shifters including ST-6600, and they pull 22.5mm of cable across all gears. Therefore the ratio is 3.95(cassette spacing) ÷ (22.5 ÷ 9) = 1.58 CUES derailleur has 1.05 ratio (same as other Shimano 10~12 speed mountain derailleurs), so they don't match unless you use converters such as Wolftooth Tanpan or Jtek shiftmate. That said, if you don't plan to use cassettes larger than 40T, than all the Shimano 8~9 speed mountain derailleurs can work with ST-6600. My favorites are shadow RD such as RD-M592/662/772, the longest SGS cage can accommodate up to 47T capacity, which is very useful for 3x10 setting with 11-36T cassette. Incidentally, RD-R3000 & RD-R2000 are essentially derived from old mountain derailleurs (1.58 ratio), they can take 40T cassettes and their 94.5mm GS cages are only slightly shorter than 100mm mountain SGS, so the total capacity is very generous for such a "road" derailleur.

Cues Linkglide 11-43T!

Microshift uses the same cable pull as Dynasis 10speed. You can use a Deore dynasis rear derailleur with a Sword or Advent X brifter.

@@PathLessPedaledTV Thanks! So I think is a viable option if you already have the Dynasys RD at home and do not care/need hydraulic brakes.

Having the same issue, then, Old Anorak, here, are we still supposed to stand on our crank anymore (isn’t modern cycling about spinning as fast as you possibly can, honestly Dunno 🤷‍♀️?). Apparently, you’ll have to check, a *true* 9 speed chain should be 11/128, many, supposedly 9 speed chains, and sold as such, would be 3/32 ? Worth noting, that I experience these chain jumps, when cranking Watts, only when on the first small cogs, no chain jumps when on the last 5 larger cogs on a 11-32 cassette.

Blue loctite on the screw. Also depends on what derailleur you're using.

@@PathLessPedaledTV I believe it’s a Shimano deore xt came stock with the bike

Yes

I’ve found 11spd works across mixed drivetrains that use 9,10 and 11spd parts. Also I don’t want to buy multiple speed chains and want as much interchangeability between bikes.

No

No. 105 and Ultegra have different pull ratio.

Wheeltop has this already