Gandalf doesn’t use real crazy magic because the gods that sent the wizards to middle-earth commanded them not to. He COULD burn down a whole forest or smash a mountain to dust, he just chooses not to
Which he kind of does in the hobbit since it came before the lotr and the original version had quite some differences, mostly with gollumn and the ring.
They should show one instance in the films where he shows just how powerful he can be. That's the one thing as a kid which made me not like this as much. Harry Potter came out at the same time and when I saw what wizards could do there, lots just seemed boring. I love it now, but still would prefer to see some heavy uses of magic just a couple of times.
@@elusiveDEVIANT Gandalf always followed the rules so he would never do something like that, but I think a good example was when Saruman was chanting on the wind and created that huge storm
@offworldrjp2347 I understand why, the lore and reasoning is solid, simply wish he got a day pass. But yes, the mountain thing was nice. I did, however, not like how the "battle" between Gandalf and Saruman in the first movie. The spinning scene was a bit silly to me. Not sure if that's how it is in the book, but didn't think it was tense. Sauron being giant flaming eye was a bit weird to me as well. Seems like a strategic error on saurons part.
I think that’s sort of a misconception of why Gandalf doesn’t use his abilities. Gandalf as Olórin (his Mair form) *can* do crazy stuff like that but due to the devastation wrought upon Middle Earth by the battling Valar and Mair during the war with Melkor in the first age the gods basically decided it’s too dangerous for Middle Earth’s people if they were to use their full powers to combat Sauron and so the compromise was sending Mair to Middle Earth baring the raiment (physical bodies) of mortals with their full powers being heavily suppressed which is one of the reasons Grima can backstab Saruman with a knife and kill him. He’s in a mortal man’s body using magic. He’s not comparable to a god unless he were to forsake his mortal flesh which I don’t think he knows how to do at will like Sauron can since the Mair who become the Wizards also lose most of their memories to the point they need to take time relearning many things
One reason why the riddle scene is so long is because it’s extremely close to the book. It doesn’t have much cut out of it, being one of the most famous scenes from the book.
There's a few reasons why Gandalf chose Bilbo for the Quest of Erebor. 1) Gandalf was a friend to Bilbo's mother, Belladonna Took. 2) Bilbo showed a lot of promise in his youth. 3) Bilbo was still a bachelor and a hobbit of means who didn't have anyone else tying him down.
The beef between dwarves and elves goes back several thousand years more, when the dwarves killed Elu Thingol, the first king of the elves, over a necklace. It was again the same thing, the dwarves claim Thingol didn't pay them, but I do believe they just wanted the Silmaril and killed him out of greed.
I’d agree cause that was like their fatal flaw, the rings fed their greed for gold and such while humans it was power and the elves made their own so the sway wasn’t theirs (but I’d say the elves immortality is their issue that cause they’d see life in terms of hundreds and hundreds of years in the way we would look at maybe days they wouldn’t see “trivial” issues the same)
It’s more complex than that. And it was a big deal since Thingol literally was one of the OG elves to wake to the stars and or was a child of one of them. Related to Tata and Tatyë. Galadriel herself is 25th generation away from that couple
Also further back in history the Elves hunted and killed the first Dwarves they encountered, Petty Dwarves, thinking them to be beasts. Later, they met other Dwarves, and realized their error, but by then, they had nearly wiped out the Petty Dawrves. This brought a first cause of division between the Dwarves and Elves. Then the conflict of the Dwarves and Thingol. AMBA
Did you recognize Balin? The old dwarf from the group. He was Gimli's dead cousin from the first LOTR movie (tomb in Moria). And if I'm not mistaken, the one with the slingshot was the dead dwarf that had the book that Gandalf started reading in Moria in the same scene. Also, the trolls were the ones from the story that Bilbo was telling the kids in his birthday party.
Fun fact: Toliken wrote LotR as a "sequel" to The Hobbit, because the publishing company had asked for one. He really wanted to publish The Silmarillion, which he himself considered to be his most important work, but it was simply to big and Unmanageable, and also not evan close to finnished(Tolkiens son finnished it and finally published it about 4 years after Tolikens death, so yeah....), and so he decided to focus on the Ring that Bilbo found in Gollums cave. In the first editions of The Hobbit, the ring bore no significance at all, and only served as a tool to make Bilbo invisible, so in the new editions, Tolkien had to rewrite that entire sequence after coming up with the Rings origin. Tolkien wanted to publish LotR as one book, he never thought of it as a trilogy, but as one story. But the publishing company refused. Paper was still expensive in the late 40s/early 50s because the industry hadn't recovered from ww2 yet and fantasy wasn't a particulary popular genre at the time, especially not YA/adult fantasy, so they would not publish a 2000 something pages adult fantasy novel that they were not sure would sell. So they came up with the compromise of spliting the story in 3 parts and publish part 2 and 3 if part 1 sold well Thats the reason why LotR is a 3 part story. It was meant to be one book.
Funny thing is he wrote everything that existed prior to the events of both books. Book Of Lost Tales was first. And the hobbit also was a way for him to include various poems and such. Bringing them to life. And bringing the legendarium SAGAs and EPICs through the LOTR tome which was split into three books.
Yay, I'm glad you've decided to react to the Hobbit and that you're enjoying it so far! Some fun trivia for this movie: • When Bofur (the hat dwarf) throws the piece of food into Bombur's mouth during the feast scene, the actor actually managed to catch it in his mouth on the first take, so the excited cheering from everyone around him was real • The food in the Bag End feast was all provided by Denny's, and for a brief time during the movie's release they had Hobbit inspired dishes in their restaurants, along with collectible character cards for every Hobbit dish you order (I got Thorin, Galadriel and Gandalf!) • when Gandalf says Elrond is offering them food and the dwarves whisper to each other, Thorin's actor turns to Dwalin and says something along the lines of "We'll use the bathroom and then we'll leave."
A note about the spiders, before all the films there was this thing called Ungoliant, it took the form of a giant giant spider but it’s not really a spider it was something else. Ungoliant was Shelobs mother and spawned the other large spiders before consuming herself And in Fellowship extended version there’s a moment when Frodo is turning to a wraith where Sam says “look it’s Mr bilbos trolls” so there’s a connection
Elrond isn’t cold. He’s the total opposite and has had thousands of years to have reasons NOT to be “As Kind As Summer” “Elrond was noble and as fair in face as an elf-lord, as strong as a warrior, as wise as a wizard, as venerable as a king of dwarves, and as kind as summer.”
I know a lot of Tolkien fans are big mad that these movies weren't all that faithful to the book but I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed An Unexpected Journey. Really looking forward to your reactions of the next two movies. You're one of the smartest and most interesting reactors I've seen no cap.
@@Catherine.Dorian.one like Genshin could work to bring in all the intricacies of Tolkiens legendarium. There’s already very nice comics and art that show their unique character design with slight eastern themes to it which is a great reference point for places like China and Japan still have a nuanced culture and language that’s evolved over time and they didn’t let go of their traditions and so on. There is so much potential. I’ve been mapping out ideas for new games and actual high quality content for many years of my life. So much great art many of us have seen that is the literal story board for a future movie that maybe is set in Children Of Hùrin which can have prologues of Lùthien, or at least when Melian mentions her when Túrin brings up Beren and his own ancestors etc.
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Weird thing is they pushed and invented the trope of the brash unruly dwarf. When in the books and folklore is that they are very noble and powerful. Heck. Galadriel’s eldest brother of 3 literally discovered and befriended men and became the ultimate friend of dwarves. It was only one particular clan of dwarves that eventually caused trouble after being longtime friends with Thingol before a bunch of invisible factors played into causing them to kill Thingol. Who was the elves legacy and living memory to the elder days. Which you can see why most groups of elves especially the Sindar elves would have a problem with dwarves. It’s all complex and nuanced like our world which is steeped in history and Tolkien wrote these magnificent stories to be a part of our world. Restoring Anglo Saxon mythology after the destruction of their culture after losing the Norman war; his work also shedding light on various other cultures and mythologies. Norse/ Norway, Finnish from Finland, Irish from Ireland, Germanic from Germany, Icelandic from Iceland, Welsh From Wales
It was meant to be 2 movies directed by Guillermo del Toro, but Del Toro dipped and Peter Jackson (director of the LOTR trilogy) tried to save the project, until the studio made him elongate the story to 3 films. All out of a little children's book. The main reason why it's so inferior to the LOTR as a cinematic trilogy is the pre-production and editing. They gave Jackson 3 years of pre production in LOTR, but only a couple of months for Hobbit.
And this is why he got depressed after it was finished. As shown in the dozens behind the scenes films where he stated after what he accomplished with doing the first trilogy all at once that he’ll never do this again lol
The thing is the dwarves also at one point at the zenith years when all three children of Îlluvatar (Elves, Men and Dwarves) at their height living smonbfst eachother that’s when they kept things afloat when the master of Sauron was roaming about. The ultimate “fallen angel” but to a much larger degree. Much older. Was one form of the myriad of primordial beings that sang the world into being. Gandalf before he was Gandalf was one of these beings too. Olórin was his name.
Yay I'm glad you're doing this. I love these movies. Even though there's a lot of changes from the book, which upsets some fans, they're still wildly entertaining movies and contain the same heart and spirit that we love about Tolkien's works. Also: Rings of Power is an total insult to Tolkien. Do not watch. Here for The Hobbit triology though. 😂
Damn right, don’t touch rings of power. It’s like it was written by a child who hates his fathers legacy so they sought to destroy it. All of the changes for “modern times” and they made Galadriel literally a female Sauron, all the same fatal flaws of Sauron and the ego to match
Anyone who tells someone not to watch something shouldn’t be trusted. You’re only afraid someone is going to watch it and actually enjoy it. If you were truly confident that Rings of Power was bad, you’d let them watch it and see that for themselves. Saying not to watch something is just a pathetic way of preventing someone from having a different opinion from you.
Did you know that the beef between the Dwarves and Elves go back to their creation: Eru, basically God, made the Elves as his firstborn children to inherit the earth, and a lower God, Aulë (pronounced: Owl-Aye), god of the mountains and forges. Aulë made the dwarfs but couldn’t give them life- only Eru can give things life. But when Eru found Aulë’s creations, he offered to give them life, but warned Aulë that if he gave the dwarves life they would be forever in spite and contest of Eru’s firstborn children, the Elves, as the Dwarves would be his Adopted children. Aulë accepted Eru’s offer and the dwarves were given life just after the birth and awakening of the Elves.
Love that you did this film! These will have a different feel then LotR for two reasons, one is the style as LotR is mostly practical effects while the Hobbit is more Cgi heavy. But the tone difference is the other difference (sort of like early HP to the final films) because The Hobbit was a story Tolkien made up for his children at bedtime and LotR was based on his time in WWI
It wasn’t based on WWI. He openly stated he hated allegory and as well as the forward he wrote into his own book stating it’s nothing to do with the war. Etc etc. but everything else you said is golden and I love your comments ❤
What still gets me is there are still people, both paid and otherwise who still defend ROP. You can see who was the target audiences. Casual movie watchers and casual lotr fans lol
@@Makkaru112 Lots of literary scholars agree that even if he did say that he did not use allegories from WWI, he totally used them; the death marshes are always a good example of this, as the pts that soldiers have, and how Frodo never really healed when he returned to the Shire.
Mermaids? Not quite. It’s most likely Uinen, (I’m about to mix something up but she’s either Ulmo’s daughter or wife, I always thought she was the wife or brother or Ossë and they are both steward angels of the different aspects of water. And the one who supported the elves and men the most was Ulmo and Uinen. They played a part in the part when Arwen spoke words of power which caused the water of which is symbiotic with the elves as is all nature. Leading to the wave of water horses that trampled the Nazgûl and washed them away.
Trilogy The Hobbit Extended Edition Of The Adventures Of Bilbo Baggin: (1) An Unexpected Journey Extended Edition (2) The Desolation Of Smaug Extended Edition (3) The Battle Five Armie Extended Edition
Thorin's beef really should only be with King Thranduil and the Wood-elves of Mirkwood Forest. The other Elves had nothing to do with the troubles of Durin's Folk. And Thranduil only rules the Woodland Realm (Legolas is his son), he is not the king of all Elves. Orcs and goblins are basically the same thing, but both Sauron and Saruman have experimented with breeding larger and stronger Orcs. The Uruk-hai are the ultimate Orc: Smarter, Man-sized and able to withstand the sunlight without being pained by it. "Goblin" is just the common man's (or hobbit's) name for Orc.
Here is a bit about Gandalf for you: Gandalf is the same species of being as the Balrogs/Sauron before twisted by Melkor[Morgoth]. They are all Maiar (primordial spirits). Gandalf named Olórin created by Eru’s Thought (extensions of Eru Îlluvatar himself whilst they had their own free will & individuality. He essentially got the chance to experience and study other parts of himself through this.) among the other Ainur before the Years of the Lamps roughly 9,000+ years before arriving in Middle-earth; In Valinor he was known as Olórin.(Remember though he formally existed before the world existed and his form becoming Gandalf hadn’t happened yet. He was sent to Middle-earth in human form around the year 1000 of the Third Age. So his many forms had different ages in length of existing. He’s very cool right! Could he get any cooler!? 😎❤️ Another thing is when he arrived in middle earth he was disguised as an elf & lived among them whilst they were unknowing & he became to be known as Mithrandir to the Quendi/Eldar❤️ He could have very well dwelled with the elves far earlier just do to his curiosity & simple desire to explore and be around the firstborn (TheElves) Gandalf The Grey/White Estimated at 15,000 years old (following his quote "300 lives of men, I have walked this earth"), It says that Gandalf was the wisest of the Maiar besides Melian herself. There were a lot of Maiar that were considered really great and powerful. However, there is a much longer answer. Like Sauron(former name is Mairon) & the other Istari (the order sent around the same time & of which he was appointed leader but he being who he is & a student of the Vala by the name Nienna & Lorien(Irmo). Gandalf was a Maiar, an angelic spirit created by Eru at the beginning of time and therefor one of the many Ainur who sang the world into being & Eru just helped their creation take shape and basically stated “behold YOUR creation” & basically what happens in that world goes sort of preordained as by that song eons ago so really only the ages after Dagor Dagorath will truly be an age that isn’t full of strife; sadness; and longing. Also. These lamps are what were before even the two trees. These were Giant mountains but also like light houses but housing a great power but it may have also been where two special Maia lived that helped in the creation in the sun and moon after Melkor With eldrich terror Ungoliant killed the trees, so yea “Arien” is the Maia who basically exists with the sun and her brother and or lover of sorts is the one who wanders with and guides the moon. Of which that other Maia was “Tillion” Galadriel herself not only witnessed this but as a student of Aulë and the other Valar she obviously had involvement in helping create the hallowed objects that housed the final flower of the silver tree Telperion that was the father of the moon and the mother of the sun was Laurëlin the golden tree and prior to the sun and moon they too used to wax and wane!
Marry me. 😂 Just kidding. My husband knows all of this stuff too, we are huge fans of the books and movies. I just love it when people know what they're talking about and the deep dive background on this series.
That’s funny you bring up an open world game, their currently making a dwarf rpg game that I believe is set in Moria. It supposed to have survival, combat, and role playing capabilities. It’s also coop and multiplayer
The animosity between and elves and dwarves dates all the way back to the First Age of middle earth and even further back to when the dwarves were created. That isn't to say there weren't periods where dwarves and elves were great friends and worked together (The making of the Doors of Durin and the War of the Last Alliance, for example.) But even when the Valar, Aule, first created the dwarves outside of Eru (the main God's) plan and Eru allowed the dwarves to live and gave them sentience, he told Aule that dwarves would forever have contentions with Elves. *shrug* But eventually, as you saw with Gimli and Legolas, they put their differences aside very quickly when faced with outside evil.
gandalf chose him i BELIEVE because of his parents, he mentions beladona took, his mom, who was particularly adventurous in her youth i think, i might be wrong tho
Gandalf saved like this eagle king (someone else can better elaborate that) so it’s why the eagles even answer his call. But they aren’t like pets or anything they’re quite sentient and can choose to just not come
And those spirits/Maiar don’t answer anyone and they act on their own accord 95 percent of the time! They are close to Olórin/Gandalf so it makes sense. Same when Galadriel rescued him from the top of Zirakzigil/tower of Durin the deathless via sending the eagles(the Maiar spirits) to bring them to her realm when they found him!
@@Makkaru112 Exactly! So many people think that the eagles should’ve just flown them to Mordor but they weren’t wild animals to be tamed or slaves and they had to choose to help. I guess the films didn’t do the best job at portraying that
On a casting note, I won't deny being please beyond measure that one of my favourite Doctors from Dr Who, Sylvester McCoy, was cast as Radagast. I know Peter Jackson is a big Who fan, so I wouldn't be surprised if Radagast was written with McCoy in mind. Apparently he'd be happy to direct an episode or two of Dr Who, if the BBC would meet his fee of a Dalek. :P
я в детстве играла на компьютере в игру "битва за Средиземье 2". Там был и Эребор и Гундабад, и некоторые существа, которые позже я увидела в фильмах Хоббит. I used to play Battle for Middle-earth 2 on my computer as a child. There was also Erebor and Gundabad, and some creatures that I later saw in the Hobbit films.
Since you were talking about LotR themed video games, there was an era where there was quite a few good ones. There was the couch-coop games, that were named just after the movies. I only played the third one, Return of the King. You literally just followed the story of the movies, with cutscenes directly from the movies. It was like a hack and slash kind of game that you could play with a friend. It was a ton of fun. Then there was also the "Battle for Middle earth" games, which were strategy games that were great as well. There was also a game called conquest or something that was basically Battlefront but in the lotr universe instead of star wars. And you talked about open world games specifically, there is a Lord of the Rings online, which is basically world of warcraft but in the lord of the rings. It actually is a decent MMO but you notice that the game is old af. I tried getting into it, but as someone that has no nostalgic connection to it cause I never played it, it just feels too old. (Amazon is working on a modern LOTR MMORPG though, but I don't expect much of it) So yeah, there was a time with a lot of good games. But nowadays apart from shadow of war and shadow of mordor, which you mentioned, we only get trash mobile games.
@@nataliefaust7959 yeah I think it was cancelled quite a while ago, then they made New World instead. But unless I'm mistaken, I'm pretty sure they announced they will make one after all
We must understand the differences between those two adaptations of Tolkien's universum : LOTR trilogy is 3 long movies made from 1200+ pages book. H-trilogy is 3 long movies made from 250 pages book. LOTR trilogy was made when most of FX was made as physical effects with many CGI scenes also but blended more or less. H-trilogy was made when the CGI was too easily done to NOT be overly used. And I guess they got too short time for NOT using it a lot - as I guess building smt takes more time than drawing smt in computer. LOTR trilogy was made for 8-9 years H-trilogy was made for 4-5 years. LOTR trilogy was about making alliances before the war with Sauron. H-trilogy was about the world separated by many interests long before the war with Sauron. LOTR trilogy was about desire of power. H-trilogy was about "dragon sickness" which is greed of gold. LOTR trilogy was about hobbits and elves mostly. H-trilogy was about dwarves and a hobbit mostly. LOTR trilogy was more epic and dark - a suiside mission with the stakes as high as the eternal enslavement of the world by satanic power. H-trilogy was more fun and adventure becouse it was made from childrens adventure book with lots of satire and comedy with the stakes as high as fighting one dragon for his gold treasure. But all in all is H-trilogy a realy good movie with great roles and lots of new areas of Middle-Earth to explore - its about eastern parts not about Gondor, Rohan but about the region of Rhovanion with different places and cultures. And IMO its more political fantasy movie about differing rulers and interests. And most of all its about how Bilbo got his Ring.
There's a lot of Lore in These comments that I appreciate but I just gotta say Goblins are orks, they're just the smaller ones that live in the mountain caves
Why Gandalf choses Bilbo ? You're right is seems that any hobbit would do. But Gandalf knew Bilbo all Bilbo's life it seems (thats how Bilbo tells this at the start of the movie), and in the text from "Unfinished tales" (chapter "The Quest of Erebor") Gandalf mentions that he has been thinking about Bilbo sometime before their travel to Erebor. When Gandalf tells the story of Thorin's company and Gandalf's own input in creation of this company to Frodo and Gimli, while they all chill in Minas Tirith after the war. :) And it seems to me that Bilbo was at this point the only single guy (not burdened by family obligations) from the area Gandalf knew about or even more so the only single guy with Tooks blood, and it was important becouse Tooks were known for being more adventurous and as the ones who long time ago have traveled with Gandalf, as at least two of Bilbo's uncles did - they were sons of the Gerontius "the Old" Took (one of Thains of the Shire, its like a steward, an office for crisis times created for the sake of old kings - Thain is a representative of the king of Arnor for the Shire), while Bilbo's mother was one of the daughters of Gerontius.
I was preparing to watch the next reaction for Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King and was like wait a dam minute!!!, only to find out i clicked the wrong link 😀 Buttttt... I am excited that you continued into the Hobbit Series as they are my favorite too!
I may get roasted for this take, but I think the first Hobbit movie is really on par with the Lord of the Rings film trilogy. I think the second one is pretty good as well, but of slightly lesser quality. I don't hate the third one, but you can really see where they were running out of money for some of the CGI effects. I also know the story of the three Hobbit films doesn't stay fully true to the original book, and that it incorporates some things from the Silmarilion to stretch it into three films. Some of that I also don't mind. For instance, seeing what happens at Dul Guldur is pretty cool.
Speaking of open world games, most of the locations in Middle Earth are recreated in The Lord of the Rings Online mmorpg game. It’s a great game to just explore Middle Earth and immerse yourself in
Amazon waited until Christopher Tolkien died early in the production of Amazon’s DumpsterFire, his "demand" was that Amazon could use the Appendices to make the show, but they couldn't change the lore. As soon as Christopher died, Amazon delayed the show for reshoots, fired Tom Shippey who was the lead Tolkien scholar & friend of Tolkien himself; they wanted Jackson on the team. PeterJackson asked for the scripts then they ghosted him. Then later when asked about it he basically told them good luck.. You can blame this garbage show on Simon Tolkien, its stink doesn't reach Christopher. Firstly: they merge events (from thousands of years of history & build up towards several events but puts them all into one moment as if it’s happening in the same few years without time jumps or anything.) Guyladriel the murderous one dimensional girlboss heroine version of Galadriel never met Miriel(one of Aragorn’s ancestors) because, as an elf, she would have been sacrificed to Morgoth by the King's Men. The hobbits and Gandalf never met in the 2nd Age because Gandalf was in Valinor till the 3rd Age. Miriel wasn’t even born yet. She was born 300 years before or after the rings of power era. Also Elendil would never say “forget the past and toss it aside.” That’s the whole thing about the Faithful Númenoreans!!! Faithfulness to what’s good. To their elf friends. To the Valar, to Eru Îlluvatar. The way Galadriel acts like Fëanor when he isn’t seeing straight such as how she threatened bloodshed in the highest court of Númenor! The way she isn’t tall, the way she fights rookies doesn’t make her look strong. Should have had her spar with Elendil who was greater than Miriel in many ways even as far as lineage goes too! Have her spar with those greater Numenoreans and let the rookies laugh at their masters being vested by an elf woman holding back from actually hurting them! Now that’d be cool. (Remember. Their whole mantra was to write the book Tolkien never wrote”. Also watch them fake super fans. And then watch their social media that had nothing Tolkien on it ever. Like…. It’s painfully obvious what’s going on here. Same formula towards other titles. They’re just trying to bank on the brand of which that’s the only reason they did this. Just watch Peter Jackson’s new movie coming out and the war of the Rohirim. You’ll see that Brian Cox is involved In it along with Philipa Boyens as well as Actor for Èowyn named Miranda Otto. Fran Walsh I also believe is Involved as well! Watch George The Giant Slayer’s first video regarding the war of the rohirrim. It was beautiful. And he has a wonderful soul too. When I say first video. I don’t mean very first uploaded video though lol. ) There was also no Adar. No poppy. No Nori. No fake Gandalf who literally didn’t come the way he was supposed to which introduces Círdan. And since they screwed up the themes and lore so badly they have to dig in their heels. And they are also being sued by multiple people and groups and companies actually. The rings were forged last and not first. They were not in his sights or touch nor did he even know about them. And also guyladriel wasn’t a murderous Fëanorean either. But the note of the elven rings. They were made last and without the knowledge of Sauron. His touch never got to them. Made in secret so that whole story is thrown out the window as well. And making them first and having the obvious Sauron figure who wasn’t an elf to just be there when they’re making them and have his eye show up in the forge which wasn’t even the worst of it. The greatest of elven smiths still around which is Celebrimbor doesn’t even know what alloying is. Not to mention all their environmental scandals on top of bad CGI stuff. Full of copy past crowds and plagerisms up the wazoo. It’s also getting sued by several people and groups. I’ll also remind you that they just ran an old sick horse til it died of cardiac arrest and then only had a ten min coffee break to loosely honour this horse. Not to mention Tolkien loved animals in a deep way. They also have been causing environmental damage one of which being King Charles ancient forest to make a set. It’s scandal after scandal. And the fire in studio that took four hours to put out with firemen for yet another example. PS they don’t have the rights to the Silmarillion nor anything much of the second age let alone the first. Only the trilogy books and their appendices…. Remember that they also plagiarized tonnes of films in nontasteful instead of true a homage way… tempest in me but when threatening Fëanorean bloodshed in the court of Numenor was from Cate Blanchett’s Elizabeth role which was done with grace and poise of a veteran actress(which doesn’t even sound like anything those of the great chill house of Finarfin would even act like. Again it’d be best to put Elrond there due to Elros. But ooook let’s make girlboss do everything. Even if it continues to make zero sense. )😍 fact they downplayed Elendil, Gil-Galad and Finrod is beyond infuriating and not explaining Elwing, Elronds mother beyond just showing her as a swan lol. Like. What’s worse is Grandpabimbor…. Let’s not forget good ol’ Guyladriel either. The LOTR version of Star Wars’ Rey! Guyladriel the Female Fëanor without any of his charms and subtleties and wit… just the bloody violent rages…
I read all of Tolkien's books 45 yrs ago. I loved the LOTR movies (and your reaction was awesome too - watched you twice on each one). But I can see why those who read 'The Hobbit' don't like this movie. Too much crap added that wasn't in the book. And Gandalf didn't know about One Ring yet. Remember in LOTR when he had to go to that old dusty library to research it? Thanks for your reaction. Now I know I don't need to watch it.
You ain’t lying about needing an open world RPG. It would most definitely put Skyrim to shame if done right. Just look at the success of Hogwarts Legacy. I know that game isn’t nearly as awe inspiring as Skyrim is but with the right development team, a Middle Earth RPG could destroy all who came before it.
There is a guy who posts amazing Baldur’s Gate stuff and he even did playthroughs with a very well known party member for Skyrim and hooked up with a certain AIchat that I can’t say the name of without getting my comment banned again. And it literally caused her to actually have organic conversations and would remember everything from the whole playthrough and it becomes super hilarious with her mastery of nuance. And it also enhances her own gameplay too. Can ask her more complicated requests. Such as code words to do certain things to another group at a different time and place. It’s amazing stuff. The future of gaming is interactive.
Yes. I agree. It’d rule them all. Nothing would exist without Tolkien and many shows and movies wouldn’t exist without PJ breaking the glass ceiling which paved the way for everything. Not to mention have courage to those who didn’t think various things were possible for media
You have a new subscriber from Uruguay. I hope you continue with the 2 remaining hobbit movies in extended version and I ask you please to watch the Lord of the Rings series, the rings of power. I look forward to your prompt response. Best regards
The Istari(wizards of middle earth) were not allowed to use magic to influence the fate of Middle earth, they were only allowed to use influencial magic in very small amounts when absolutley necessary. Think of Gandalf as an angelic beeing in human form, who's task is to guide and influence people, not to control their fate. (A bit like Jesus)
IMO it seems in that scene with Smaug's attack that elven king rode with his army all that way from his forest in pursuit after the dragon and then after seeing that dragon in close and how the dragon destroyed the greatest fortress of dwarves he was like - nope :)
Greatest is Nargothrond. Built together by dwarves and elves headed by Finrod (Felagund to the dwarves), Galadriel’s dearest eldest brother, Known to him as Artanis/Nerwen before Celeborn gave her the name of endearment which he crafted as Galadriel. The meaning is beautiful. So much so she fully adopted it as her name known by others.
@@Makkaru112 yes, but what you speak of has happened long ago in 2d age, "the hobbit" is set in 3d age :) BTW Galadriel and Finrod from TV show - thats pure abomination what they did with those charachters :D
I think Thranduil came to help Men of Dale, he still had good relationships with them long after the first dragon attack and brought them supplies after the second one, tried to keep them safe when Dain came to fight for Thorin.... He didn't want to risk his kingdom (dragon can burn down the forest in like 3 min) and immortal lives of his elves by trying to save those who tricked him, humiliated him. From his point of view they kind of brought dragon fire upon themselves by being greedy and he had no obligation to help them to fight the dragon, tho of course from the moral point of view he definitely should have provided them with food at least.
if they could take what they did, to the Harry Potter game, and just scale it up a ton, make it into Middle Earth, with the same level of details, quests etc. it would be an AWESOME game!
Rings of Power isn't the disaster a lot of people make it out to be. And I've been reading LOTR and other materials of Arda since the 90s. I can easily point and tantrum about decisions Peter Jackson made, but the same people who get mad at Rings think the movies are beyond reproach. Now, in terms of media quality without considering lore? To me Rings is on par with the Hobbit. It has moments of greatness and moments of smh. It's not as good as the LOTR films, but it's enjoyable. They do need to make serious improvements to Galadriel, but her being a bad-ass warrior who gets dirty isn't the issue. Tolkien himself named her Man-Maiden. Indeed, her being arrogant also isn't the issue. The Noldor are a proud folk. And... I'm not really interested in arguing with anyone so don't @ me. XD Just my opinions. As yours as yours.♥
Nah. A lot of the lore and everything was utterly destroyed. Core concepts removed and or completely turned into shallow concepts. Sorry mate. The man maiden trope they used to defend themselves doesn’t make sense. As by now she’s exalted as a huge figure in middle earth by this point and is over 6000 ELF YEARS old. She had the literal power to launch a bounty on Sauron if she just wished it and the whole middle earth would respond. That and running away from your resumes daughter also doesn’t look to great. And they messed the timeline so much el will be marrying a baby just like Jacob the Wolfy lol
The hobbit was way closer to the themes and so forth. Shows the depths of the work and understanding of the material as seen in the behind the scenes documentaries of both trilogies. They begged PJ to come in after Deltoro after running away after running nearly into the ground
Amazon waited until Christopher Tolkien died early in the production of Amazon’s DumpsterFire, his "demand" was that Amazon could use the Appendices to make the show, but they couldn't change the lore. As soon as Christopher died, Amazon delayed the show for reshoots, fired Tom Shippey who was the lead Tolkien scholar & friend of Tolkien himself; they wanted Jackson on the team. PeterJackson asked for the scripts then they ghosted him. Then later when asked about it he basically told them good luck.. You can blame this garbage show on Simon Tolkien, its stink doesn't reach Christopher. Firstly: they merge events (from thousands of years of history & build up towards several events but puts them all into one moment as if it’s happening in the same few years without time jumps or anything.) Guyladriel the murderous one dimensional girlboss heroine version of Galadriel never met Miriel(one of Aragorn’s ancestors) because, as an elf, she would have been sacrificed to Morgoth by the King's Men. The hobbits and Gandalf never met in the 2nd Age because Gandalf was in Valinor till the 3rd Age. Miriel wasn’t even born yet. She was born 300 years before or after the rings of power era. Also Elendil would never say “forget the past and toss it aside.” That’s the whole thing about the Faithful Númenoreans!!! Faithfulness to what’s good. To their elf friends. To the Valar, to Eru Îlluvatar. The way Galadriel acts like Fëanor when he isn’t seeing straight such as how she threatened bloodshed in the highest court of Númenor! The way she isn’t tall, the way she fights rookies doesn’t make her look strong. Should have had her spar with Elendil who was greater than Miriel in many ways even as far as lineage goes too! Have her spar with those greater Numenoreans and let the rookies laugh at their masters being vested by an elf woman holding back from actually hurting them! Now that’d be cool. (Remember. Their whole mantra was to write the book Tolkien never wrote”. Also watch them fake super fans. And then watch their social media that had nothing Tolkien on it ever. Like…. It’s painfully obvious what’s going on here. Same formula towards other titles. They’re just trying to bank on the brand of which that’s the only reason they did this. Just watch Peter Jackson’s new movie coming out and the war of the Rohirim. You’ll see that Brian Cox is involved In it along with Philipa Boyens as well as Actor for Èowyn named Miranda Otto. Fran Walsh I also believe is Involved as well! Watch George The Giant Slayer’s first video regarding the war of the rohirrim. It was beautiful. And he has a wonderful soul too. When I say first video. I don’t mean very first uploaded video though lol. ) There was also no Adar. No poppy. No Nori. No fake Gandalf who literally didn’t come the way he was supposed to which introduces Círdan. And since they screwed up the themes and lore so badly they have to dig in their heels. And they are also being sued by multiple people and groups and companies actually. The rings were forged last and not first. They were not in his sights or touch nor did he even know about them. And also guyladriel wasn’t a murderous Fëanorean either. But the note of the elven rings. They were made last and without the knowledge of Sauron. His touch never got to them. Made in secret so that whole story is thrown out the window as well. And making them first and having the obvious Sauron figure who wasn’t an elf to just be there when they’re making them and have his eye show up in the forge which wasn’t even the worst of it. The greatest of elven smiths still around which is Celebrimbor doesn’t even know what alloying is. Not to mention all their environmental scandals on top of bad CGI stuff. Full of copy past crowds and plagerisms up the wazoo. It’s also getting sued by several people and groups. I’ll also remind you that they just ran an old sick horse til it died of cardiac arrest and then only had a ten min coffee break to loosely honour this horse. Not to mention Tolkien loved animals in a deep way. They also have been causing environmental damage one of which being King Charles ancient forest to make a set. It’s scandal after scandal. And the fire in studio that took four hours to put out with firemen for yet another example. PS they don’t have the rights to the Silmarillion nor anything much of the second age let alone the first. Only the trilogy books and their appendices…. Remember that they also plagiarized tonnes of films in nontasteful instead of true a homage way… tempest in me but when threatening Fëanorean bloodshed in the court of Numenor was from Cate Blanchett’s Elizabeth role which was done with grace and poise of a veteran actress(which doesn’t even sound like anything those of the great chill house of Finarfin would even act like. Again it’d be best to put Elrond there due to Elros. But ooook let’s make girlboss do everything. Even if it continues to make zero sense. )😍 fact they downplayed Elendil, Gil-Galad and Finrod is beyond infuriating and not explaining Elwing, Elronds mother beyond just showing her as a swan lol. Like. What’s worse is Grandpabimbor…. Let’s not forget good ol’ Guyladriel either. The LOTR version of Star Wars’ Rey! Guyladriel the Female Fëanor without any of his charms and subtleties and wit… just the bloody violent rages…
One thing I find extremely.. unfitting.. is the Rivendell sequence: While Dwarves of Erebor weren't happy about Elves, Elrond and RIvendell still commanded quite a lot of respect among the Nobility of the Dwarfs (and by extention this group). Hell, Elrond the Lore-Keeper was likely the only one that Thorin, in all his bitterness for High Lords of Elves, considered being even close to possible, useful "friends" out there. They'd have respected the Last Homely House - not make an complete arses of themselves while in there. In this case, need for "comedy" destroyed quite a bit of important world/character-building between Dwarven and Elven folks.
One thing worth considering is that Tolkien enthusiasts can be… let’s say, a little bit overprotective over the source material 😂 so they usually come with some big ass opinions on everything that’s not the LOTR trilogy. It’s understandable, but I thoroughly enjoyed The Hobbit, though I can agree that they should have gone practical over CGI. The same goes for Rings of Power: it has its ups and downs, probably a LOT of downs in their first season, but I wouldn’t say it’s completely unwatchable. It has some very good episodes and moments which made it worth to me to suffer through the pacing issues and, agreed, pretty big changes in the lore. I don’t know, maybe even consider trying a few episodes on your own and see if it sparks some interest.
Lord of the Rings Online has been going on for a long time and it's a good game, just not too popular. Been playing since middle school on and off, but it's not for everyone. Very much a time sink MMO. :)
It could be good to see 1-2 episodes of Rings of Power. Just to try to see How and Why it's bad. And it can give more even more credit to the Lord of the Ring Trilogy, by comparing it to trash. (Never watch Rings of Power, but it's just that I like my little funny idea here)
The problem with Rings of power is that the Tolkien estate would not sell the rights to the Silmarillion, and the only story they could use was the appendixes from The Lord of the Rings. Amazon would have better to either not make the show, or to make it as a show based off the Silmarillion. It’s not a bad story but it’s not Tolkien’s book. But the blame should be divided between the two major factions. Btw, Balin is Gimli’s cousin, it’s his memorial in the mines of Moria at which Gimli is crying. And Gloin, in this movie, is Gimli’s father.
@@jenni5104 Amazon waited until Christopher Tolkien died early in the production of Amazon’s DumpsterFire, his "demand" was that Amazon could use the Appendices to make the show, but they couldn't change the lore. As soon as Christopher died, Amazon delayed the show for reshoots, fired Tom Shippey who was the lead Tolkien scholar & friend of Tolkien himself; they wanted Jackson on the team. PeterJackson asked for the scripts then they ghosted him. Then later when asked about it he basically told them good luck.. You can blame this garbage show on Simon Tolkien, its stink doesn't reach Christopher. Firstly: they merge events (from thousands of years of history & build up towards several events but puts them all into one moment as if it’s happening in the same few years without time jumps or anything.) Guyladriel the murderous one dimensional girlboss heroine version of Galadriel never met Miriel(one of Aragorn’s ancestors) because, as an elf, she would have been sacrificed to Morgoth by the King's Men. The hobbits and Gandalf never met in the 2nd Age because Gandalf was in Valinor till the 3rd Age. Miriel wasn’t even born yet. She was born 300 years before or after the rings of power era. Also Elendil would never say “forget the past and toss it aside.” That’s the whole thing about the Faithful Númenoreans!!! Faithfulness to what’s good. To their elf friends. To the Valar, to Eru Îlluvatar. The way Galadriel acts like Fëanor when he isn’t seeing straight such as how she threatened bloodshed in the highest court of Númenor! The way she isn’t tall, the way she fights rookies doesn’t make her look strong. Should have had her spar with Elendil who was greater than Miriel in many ways even as far as lineage goes too! Have her spar with those greater Numenoreans and let the rookies laugh at their masters being vested by an elf woman holding back from actually hurting them! Now that’d be cool. (Remember. Their whole mantra was to write the book Tolkien never wrote”. Also watch them fake super fans. And then watch their social media that had nothing Tolkien on it ever. Like…. It’s painfully obvious what’s going on here. Same formula towards other titles. They’re just trying to bank on the brand of which that’s the only reason they did this. Just watch Peter Jackson’s new movie coming out and the war of the Rohirim. You’ll see that Brian Cox is involved In it along with Philipa Boyens as well as Actor for Èowyn named Miranda Otto. Fran Walsh I also believe is Involved as well! Watch George The Giant Slayer’s first video regarding the war of the rohirrim. It was beautiful. And he has a wonderful soul too. When I say first video. I don’t mean very first uploaded video though lol. ) There was also no Adar. No poppy. No Nori. No fake Gandalf who literally didn’t come the way he was supposed to which introduces Círdan. And since they screwed up the themes and lore so badly they have to dig in their heels. And they are also being sued by multiple people and groups and companies actually. The rings were forged last and not first. They were not in his sights or touch nor did he even know about them. And also guyladriel wasn’t a murderous Fëanorean either. But the note of the elven rings. They were made last and without the knowledge of Sauron. His touch never got to them. Made in secret so that whole story is thrown out the window as well. And making them first and having the obvious Sauron figure who wasn’t an elf to just be there when they’re making them and have his eye show up in the forge which wasn’t even the worst of it. The greatest of elven smiths still around which is Celebrimbor doesn’t even know what alloying is. Not to mention all their environmental scandals on top of bad CGI stuff. Full of copy past crowds and plagerisms up the wazoo. It’s also getting sued by several people and groups. I’ll also remind you that they just ran an old sick horse til it died of cardiac arrest and then only had a ten min coffee break to loosely honour this horse. Not to mention Tolkien loved animals in a deep way. They also have been causing environmental damage one of which being King Charles ancient forest to make a set. It’s scandal after scandal. And the fire in studio that took four hours to put out with firemen for yet another example. PS they don’t have the rights to the Silmarillion nor anything much of the second age let alone the first. Only the trilogy books and their appendices…. Remember that they also plagiarized tonnes of films in nontasteful instead of true a homage way… tempest in me but when threatening Fëanorean bloodshed in the court of Numenor was from Cate Blanchett’s Elizabeth role which was done with grace and poise of a veteran actress(which doesn’t even sound like anything those of the great chill house of Finarfin would even act like. Again it’d be best to put Elrond there due to Elros. But ooook let’s make girlboss do everything. Even if it continues to make zero sense. )😍 fact they downplayed Elendil, Gil-Galad and Finrod is beyond infuriating and not explaining Elwing, Elronds mother beyond just showing her as a swan lol. Like. What’s worse is Grandpabimbor…. Let’s not forget good ol’ Guyladriel either. The LOTR version of Star Wars’ Rey! Guyladriel the Female Fëanor without any of his charms and subtleties and wit… just the bloody violent rages…
They got an open world Lord of the Rings game since 2007, except it’s an MMO. Lord of the Rings Online. They just did a new update - might be something to stream.
This might be late and someone else might have already warned you but without spoilers, Ring of Power ruins the whole universe. It's pure Mary Sue main char with 0 emotion and some of the worst writing for all of the chars in general. I'd say watching that is the closest one can get to feeling like Gollum when he was tortured for information, just more sadistic.
Each to their own but I find the action in the Hobbit films so stupid and cartoonish. They really screwed the Hobbit up after getting so much of The Lord of the Rings so right.
I personally enjoyed the rings of power bc it was just more of the the world of middle earth. The writing wasn’t the best but tbh it’s still a fun watch. My favorite movie is the return of the king bc it is just so powerful and has so many good moments. By far the LORT is my favorite fantasy genre
