To add to this, I think Olive killed so many people was to get the attention of the Grim Reaper. You can only have interactions with the Reaper when a death occurs, so the more people who die, the more chances Olive has to meet up with her true love, the Grim Reaper. The first death that happened around Olive could have been the one that caused her to be infatuated with death and in turn the Grim Reaper.
No toilet in the bathroom: Sims 2: Olive can't shit, she's constantly constipated, therefore it pisses her off and drives her to kill food delivery people and stuff. Sims 4 (this is a legit thing from Get Famous BTW): Yeah uh we just forgot to put a toilet in the bathroom lul
Notice how a lot of the random deaths of non-family members are service Sims, there's a pizza delivery girl, a pest control worker, a maid, it's like she was luring people to the house with the soul intention of murdering them. I like the theory she was killing people so that she could see the Grim Reaper, and they fell more and more in love with every person Olive kills!
I wonder how Olive felt when SHE finally died and Grim came to fetch HER into the afterlife she spent her entire life obsessed with. 100% convinced Grim Reaper was the Mystery Sim she met in childhood too, which did something to her.
She'd probably either 1. Just die as usual, the game doesn't recognize relationships in terms of death (bc if you're with Death and he's not in your household he'll still reap souls, I think) Or 2. Plead to live again
I would also include fairy Flora Goodfellow from the sims 3. Man, that woman messed up the entire Moonlight Falls😆 To add contest she swapped babies as a prank and gave a fairy baby to a regular woman and she also turned a baby boy into a fairy whose parents HATE supernatural beings. She’s basically :”It’s just a prank bro”
I love how in-depth you go into these. The lore in the earlier games is top tier! And the name puns of Olive's exes threw me off even as a kid 🤣 Also your hair is looking gorgeous 😍
Theory: Olive falls in love with the Grim Reaper because he’s always there for her during traumatic deaths. So when she gets left at the altar, she kills her ex in hopes of seeing Grim. She then continues trying to meet a human man, but goes back to Grim every time because he’s never let her down; he’s always guaranteed to show up.
Same! After Olive died, all the ghosts suddenly showed up each night, and the teenager died from fright (aka, mood drop after seeing too many ghosts right after one another)
Sins 2 is so tramatizing, I was playing it yesterday and omg everyone almost died, and then I played sims 3 to cool down and five minutes into the gameplay after hours in CAS my sim slammed against a vending machine and died... I just quit and went to bed
agreed !! I wanna see like what the sims 2 was which was sims 1 years later, but this time its sims 5 but its the sims 2 years later. like we get to see how nervous subject lives, if Bella was ever brought back, if Don was guilty of alien/kidnapping stuff, etc.
absolutely!! And maybe add in some of the Sims 2 DS characters like Optimum Alfred, Ava Cadavra, Lord Mole, Emperor Xizzle, and Frankie Fusilli,,,, maybe I say this as someone still hyperfixated on the Sims 2 DS but playing the Sims 2 PC with Tank Grunt and Johnny Smith was so fun as someone who played the DS version first, and the antagonists for the DS game were so fun and interesting and honestly I'd *love* to have them back with more lore n improvements that could just be me tho lol. Strangetown just wild in the Sims 2 as a whole
It's interesting how it's after Nervous Subject gets taken away that Olive has a temporary break from murdering and actually had a husband that she didn't want to die! It's possible imo that she decided to stop trying to be with the grim reaper after her kid got taken then snapped again after her husband died
"Mystery Sim" is a sim used in Sims 2 for premade adult and elder sims to have in their memories that they've had their first kiss. In other words, every pre-made adult and elder sim that is single will have it in their memories that once they became teenagers they met "Mystery Sim", fell in love with them, and kissed them. It is the game's way of saying they've had some romantic experience but it's not specifying any details about "Mystery Sim" in case it doesn't fit the narrative you want to give to the pre-made sim
I found it weird that (almost?) every time Ophelia got a promotion, it was after someone's death: almost as if she *had* to kill to get promoted and she didn't really mind
I always interpreted it as she got a high from killing someone and that allowed her to excel in her job, earning her a promotion. So it became a pattern where she linked killing someone with promotions
that's crazy that you made that link between pascal and nervous because in all my playthroughs it just makes sense that they fall in love and get married. pascal remained one of nervous' closest friends throughout everything and they make a great couple. I moved nervous into the curious household and he's now raising alien babies, married to pascal, happy as ever. I don't even play it anymore, I left it immortalised as the happiest time of his life
It’s definitely implied. I think the only reason why they’re just friends by default is that having a premade gay couple would be extremely controversial in 2004.
It's cute because when you first load the Curious household, Pascal has a want to talk to Nervous and around the time he gives birth (around 6am I think?) Nervous is scripted to visit their house. And if you followed the prompt for Vidcund, this is usually when the aliens bring him back as well 😂
@@EnigmaticLucas Isn't that sad? That not even two decades ago, the Sims team had to be sneaky about it? I appreciate that even in the Sims 1 they had same-sex relationships, started off the Sims 2 base game with these two, and included at least joined unions with the wedding arch (which TwoJeffs quickly made into marriage). Still, it's pretty tragic that you couldn't even be open in a freakin' life-simulating _game._ without someone clutching their pearls. At least they finished out the Rainbow Coalition with Sims 4.
I love the entire history of series! Olive is 2 days away from death when you first load her household, so Olive dies on the day Ophelia ages up to an adult.
I always reunited Olive and Nervous Subject in my play throughs and then gave Nervous the best life ever, because he deserved it after everything he'd been through.
I miss the way the older games had so much lore and fully fleshed out characters.. they were definitely cheekier games, but that's what made them so much fun to play and to add to with your own imagination.
@@DuskPShermanWallaby123 But Jim kept killing people and eventually he stopped being in the same household as Grim he just lives with Santa Claus and Turg Turg, and while he hasn't killed much in recent episodes, he did Speedrun killing an entire neighborhood in a recent video.
i just wanna say that when i was a kid, i KNEW that pascal and nervous were supposed to be together. they were also how i like finally figured out what being gay was and from then on i was OBSESSED with making everyone gay in the sims and then i turned out gay and i love that for me
@@katierasburn9571 oh I agree! But it would be nice for the pre-mades to have a back story, they gave them a bio that they both have a crush on him but they didn’t alter their relationships😕 they aren’t even best friends I’m pretty sure they’re just acquaintances with eachother
Feck me I knew Olive was messed up but a torture house?! And I have to say, Nervous always ended up with Pascal in my playthroughs, no matter what happened to anyone else I always made sure those loves ran off into the sunset together 😭
Ok ok, hear me out: How about LPs inspired from ye old Sims lore? Like recreating this whole story but in the Sims 4 or doing the full timeline of the other classic characters... I would watch the whole thing, delighted to see all the conspiracies and plot twists come to life.
I have recreated some Sims 2 lore in my savegame - mostly by cheating deaths, relationships, etc - and while it was a huge joy to see my worlds full of Sims with actually meaningful stories and relationships living in houses that tell a story of their own,... The actual gameplay was... Meh. In Sims 4, your Sims just behave so weirdly against their stats? Like they do get a negative moodlet from hanging out with a sim they hate and/or had a fight with recently but they will still do friendly interactions with them? Like, even if you set everything up to play out the way it would have in Sims 2, it simply won't. You'll have to intervene constantly and bring a huge suspension of disbelief with you because the game will make it really hard for you to believe your own stories you're trying to play. Then again, this could at least make for an entertaining LP, if not for an immersive one 😂 I'd watch it
The picture of olive crying on her wedding day I'm pretty sure you can paint on the sims 3 if you have a mostly high painting skill 😅 just realised that
Because of this video, I went on a marathon of the series, and noticed something when I got to Princess Cordelia. Her last name is Thebe. There are Thebes in the family tree of the Capp family from Sims 2, which means they are most likely descendents of Princess Cordelia
The way they brought back iconic characters and whitewashed them really bothered me. Bella Goth was clearly not white, she had tan skin and black hair with brown eyes, yet they made her (and Cassandra) totally white in TS4. They really did the Caliente sisters dirty not just in terms of whitewashing but also in terms of making them look horrible in general and also completely changing their story by giving them a new mom, wtf?? But originally they seemed to have Spanish and Arabic descent and were clearly of a deeper complexion, whereas in TS4 they are - surprise surprise! - just basic white girls. Hell, even when they brought back Dirk Dreamer as a character they gave him much lighter skin and brown hair instead of black. Can they not just keep the original character designs? They have these beloved well-established characters and they're just like "lol let's BLEACH THEM!"
@@KreeZafi well, olive skin doesn't mean non-white tho. Most of the sims was whitewashed and she should have kept her olive skin but still, as I said: white isn't just pale.
@@sarasthoughts but she looked not plain white. sometimes that’s not the case but in this case it’s very plausible and many people always took her as not-plain-white,.
Wouldn't say blacks were the majority, just that it had a good balance of various colours. The ideal thing would be to say that there *were* no majorities or minorities.
My younger sister passed away 2 months ago **Not Looking for Sympathy** I used to share your videos with her & when visiting with each other we would watch your video together. I'm glad I have those memories with her, she adored you! Just wanted to say that watching your videos now... it really takes the sting and sadness away for a bit. THANK YOU PLUMBELLA!
WAIT! I just went back any watched the video about Nervous Subject and I have a question! @plumbella So, when you adopt a kid in the Sims, you have the option to change their name. DID THE BEAKER FAMILY CHANGE HIS NAME TO “NERVOUS SUBJECT”?! You know, because they were using him as a test subject?! Omg!! I’m thinking Olive might’ve named him something normal. When you change a sim’s name, it changes everything to the new name, even in memories that pre-exist the name change it will show it as their new name. Could that be why Olive doesn’t know that her son literally lives down the road from her? Because she doesn’t know that they changed his name and therefore doesn’t know that Nervous is actually her son? With how murderous she is toward people who have wronged her, you’d think that the Beaker family would pop up in her graveyard too! We need a data miner to find Nervous’ birth name! I bet it’s in there somewhere. I’m totally invested in this backstory now lol.
Sims 4: release expansion packs with houses in them without simple necessities or proper sense Sims 2: you can analyze every detail of a home build like a true crime show
Anyone else played thru Pascals' pregnancy just to have Olive come over for a visit and LEAVE WITH THE CHILD? I'm still traumatized by that, she's crazy that one
@@suzannareinhardt8657 you need to download Mean to everyone mod too to make it work, since mean interaction between adults and teens were limited in an expansion pack (I think OFB but I maybe wrong)
Oooh I was waiting for this video and it did not disappoint! Wish we could get this level of lore in the Sims 4~ Also DoctorAshely’s voiceover at the start was super!
olives story is one of my favourites and even though i already knew it it was still so entertaining to watch you tell it and so worth watching cause you include a lot of details i’ve not heard before like the chair in the graveyard!! i love this series it’s obvious you put a lot of work and passion into it and that makes it so fun to watch!!!
I think she pronounced the Le part of it, it's not luh. Source: I'm a South African from the Setswana tribe. It is just pronunciation I understand that but getting to teach someone who doesn't speak the language any name with Le is kind of hard because there isn't an English version or way to pronounce it.
i just wanted to say thank you to you jessie. i found out i have autism in early 2021 and you and your videos have made it easier for me to come to terms with it. thank you from the bottom of my heart
i remember being so opposed to pre-made sims because i just wanted to put my own characters everywhere but something about nervous and pascal clued me in and them being gay is like, the one piece of sims lore i know lol
The Spectre family was one of the first I played as a kid, and I didn't really inspect the gravestones or did any detective work, but just playing the household was very scary and creepy, and Olive was my first Sim death, and she seemed to die horribly, which kind of traumatised me. However, after learning the whole story, I'm not too upset.
omg your videos are so good. they’re the only way i get my sims lore. it’s like those youtube and internet drama channels but i’m actually interested. keep up the good work babe 😫😭💛
Jessica - recreate this story on TS4 as a lets play ;) Wow. I did play TS2 - still have my scratched disc that doesn't blinkin work anymore. I remember the Spectre family, but my sims stayed the hell away from that family. Because I just got creepy vibes from them LOL.
I love all of the lore that video games have. I did not expect the Sims to have such dark lore. I love that pieces of furniture allude to other unknown stories.
I love the "entire history of" videos! You do them so well, not leaving out important detail, but you also give them that special Plumbella wildness that I live for. Love it when you release another 😄😄😄😄
so I decided to binge watch your entire history of playlist again to cope with anxiety and you made me want to play a better life for nervous subject. currently ruining circe and loki's life and realising Nervous' every whims and dreams. love you girl
Plot twist, in the sims 2 for psp you encounter a sim named Ophelia Specter who inherited a Meetinghouse that has a graveyard from her mom. I believe its the same person but she is an adult in the psp version.
When I was a kid this family scared the shit out of me. I loaded the house once I think and closed it and never went there again lol. The creepy vibes were real!
what i love about youtube is that this is essentially the perfect platform for autistic people to infodump to their heart's content about their special interests to people who are just as excited to hear about said special interest sincerely one autistic person who had a special interest in the sims