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It was nothing like that arguably. But sure.

It’s extremely painful when your brother dies, but when you know that it will happen and you have the power to stop it but can’t, that’s even more painful.

@@ellenl.r.p.obrien4661 yes it is lol

I know what it's like to lose a big brother in action I don't have to imagine.... I remember when I saw this scene in the movie and it was the first thing that made me actually break 💔💔💔 because I understood his pain

This is what difficult choices are. He’s got a brother but so does the rest of the world.

Tom Balino lol

Blue Eyes Darlem lol indeed

really? cause for me that first bit showed a desperate man trying to convince his group to act, to reason with them, and after hes told the n word, hes already in tears because...well he worked on it, hes smart, all of em are, its why they got assembled after all, he knows they cant act. we just saw him come to terms with that, or rather try.

@@Datan1234 lol “told the n word”

@@Datan1234 What "N Word"??? Never heard that word once in this clip or even movie. Even if your dumb and use "N Word" instead of NO which isn't said either.

I don't think the admirality knew enimga was broken. it was kept secret from almost everyone. They had to have extreme secrecy, to make sure, the Nazi's never found out. This is said in the film and I have read more

MI6 or would given information from enigma to the military commanders, but few if any, knew the code was broken. information can come from spies

They do say in the film, that even under the offical secrets act, they created another level of secrecy. I don't think even Churchill knew it was broken. The germans never suspected the code was broken during the remainder of the war. I have read a bit.

@@mathematics5573 I believe he did and he named the enigma breaking project Ultra

@@mathematics5573 It was know as Ultra intelligence by the British and a special section of British intelligence was made to distribute it. Churchill and all the major commanders had access to it and a special code name called Boniface, who was a supposed spymaster who was operating in Europe was used for slightly larger distribution.

Yes, his brother lived to be 101 and died in 2022.

Just so you know, this isn't something that happened in reality...Peter Hilton had no such brother...this is one of the several things that were added to the script for the sake of drama.

@@rajdeepsindhu9268 I know, but it was still moving even if it wasn’t based on a true person

@@parfciit True :)

AGREED. Exploring Cumberbatch's work this year while I have some downtime. Didn't experience enough escapism pre-pandemic. I don't want to die of Covid without having watched his work. haha Even the audiobooks.

A small price to pay for salvation

Thank YOU for leaving such a lovely comment! You've made my day!

Never happened to the real Turing. It was added in for the movie.

It's a great movie. Great acting. Highly recommend it. Seen it at least twice (as far as I can recall), and will definitely watch it who knows how many times in the future.

that was the job they agreed to though, cracking Enigma was the easy part, the hardest and most heartbreaking part of the job was taking on the role of God to keep the fact that Enigma HAD been cracked secret...

But if his brother really survived the attack should he be mad at Turing?

I'm Polish and of course my point of view is probably very different to yours. Germans lost the war, but we (though helped to win it and were on the Allies side) got into Soviet communists' hands afterwards, we were just treated by our allies just like things they don't want to use anymore. I don't think Churchill or Roosevelt did consider us, Polish people as human beings. They thought of us as animals. This what we were to them: animals! We were treated like animals by Germans and then we were betrayed by English and American governments. So first we suffered horribly during German occupation, and then ended enslaved behind the iron curtain. I don't get what was the so calles greater good in this case? I guess they didn't have a true dillema cause they despised us. And that is the truth. We were used during the war and then thrown away. Straigt into Stalin's hands! Just like that. Without any regrets. In many respects, though we, Poles won the war it was a Pyrrhic victory indeed. Bitter-sweet ending of one of the most tragic periods in our history. And now I only wonder why do our politicians keep making the same mistake all over again and naively trust everyone...?

@@marta9127 There is no good excuse or answer for Poland's betrayal by the allies. It was well before my time, but it makes me ashamed. When the wall fell and the curtain came down, I was genuinely happy for Eastern Europe. Much happiness to you and yours.

@@marta9127 That is very well said. I don't disagree. The bottom line (militarily and politically) was that to push the Soviets out would've meant extending the (Allied) war and deaths for perhaps another two(?) years or more at least. Now if FDR and Churchill could've known Stalin/the Soviets would occupy and hold eastern Europe for another almost 50 years - would their decision have been the same? The USA and UK decided to turn a blind eye to the USSR/Stalin and ally with him (in the beginning) for their own (hypocritical) and selfish benefit. "The greater good" in this case is nonsense. However....it must be pointed out that the Nazis and Soviets were already entrenched in Poland and "removing" both of them would've been bloody and uncertain for all involved - including the Poles. *Long live the RAF 303 Squadron*

@@NVRAMboi Thank you ❤️ I was born in 1986 so don't remember much, but know a lot from my Parents, Grandparents, Great-Grandma and of course from history. Living in Poland after so many years from breaking the curtain I can still clearly see how the Soviet occupation has damaged our political life, social life, economics. Sadly, we are still trying to cope with the concequences of Yalta Conference... For me it is somehow funny that people say German nazi system was barbarious and at the same time think that Russian Soviet communist system was ok. I guess this is the great lesson. Western politicians were thinking only about their countries. The morality of it all, the universal truth wasn't an issue. The real politics as they say. Maybe it will sound bitter but in a way I wish our politicians would learn this cynical but highly effective approach. It is sad that in 1930/40s they truly believed in honour and the word given. Naive fools... And I'm writing it with heavy heart. After all even now we can see how the world's leaders keep turning the blind eye on the fate of people in China, North Korea, Venezuela...

@@marta9127 I would only summarize by saying that (all) human beings have the capacity for great good, but also for deception, horrific cruelty and violence. The Polish people don't have anything to prove to the West. No one or nothing can change Poland's risky and unfortunate geographic location. I hope the US and EU w/continue deterrence efforts/support in your great nation. PS: You were born during the Lech Walesa/Pope John Paul II 'Solidarity' movement days. We were pulling for you guys.

So this is how captain america won the war

@@BlackDiamond2718 dr. strange, but yeah

"P-pick up a pengwing, a lovely big pengwing!"

There was no brother, or convoy, this is artistic license.

This movie is highly dramatized. Very little of it is factually correct. This decision wasn't made by 5 code breakers. There was always a plan and way more people were involved than shown. The movie also basically completely ignores how the Polish first cracked Enigma and Bletchley Park was all based on their original work.

Yes, if they were to act on their info it would be incredibly suspicious, the Germans would reset Enigma, and they'd be back to square one

Yes. And would most likely remain at square one. Simply because acquiring the new enigma machine wouldn`t be very likely to happen. And they wouldn`t know what the new design would be to modify their own model.

Worse than a new Enigma variant would be if the Germans kept right on using the machine, but messages started looking like gibberish; encode messages with Enigma machine #1, then feed that result (with salt; randomish flaws in the message to throw off letter frequency) into Enigma #2. Cipher feedback. Machine #1 and #2 would use different settings, of course. The 'salt' can be read by a human operator and dismissed. Ever see that reading trick where the letters of each word are out of order, but we can still read them? How can you know if you cracked the message successfully if the result looks like random characters? Turing and team can't crack #2 due to salting, they would know nothing about #1... Every 'cracked' message had to be tested against their Enigma to make sure it worked properly. A layered encryption would look like a failed 'crack'. And what it the Germans started using 'telephone code'? Turing intercepts a rambling message, poorly written, a jumble of words barely held together by grammar...the 'key' is reading the third word on the first row, the fifth word on the ninth row, and so on. A 'book cipher' of sorts; silly messages sent with Enigma protection, but without the Book, there is no way to know which words in the 'telephone code' are part of the secret message. "Telephone code' as this technique gets used in jail...someone outside says p3 l5 w11; page three, line 5, word 11. But which book? Big library. The Germans were big on making standardized solutions for complex problems. They were desperate for a cipher system that they didn't have to think about overly much...Enigma had good sales staff and promised the world.

@@Mrstealth93 there was another model, a difficult one but it was supposed to be used in the mid 1942, but was cancelled, they keep using the older model, in which they think that it was never gonna get cracked

@@johannsebastianbach9003 A different enigma model? So if that was made and used, Germany could have won the war.

That never happened

The fact that he was one of the five who cracked enigma. Who brought the war to a close so much sooner saving countless lives on both sides, soldier and civilian alike. What makes him special is his brother would have saved tens of thousands of lives if not more Nobody deserves a life at the cost of anothers, but to give him a chance after what he's done?

Alans in charge. He’s the team lead.

He truly believes Alan values intellect over emotion. But it is really emotion that drives Alan to act as calculated and carefully as he does.

Assuming he does play at all…

Climate change is not an emergency. The oceans rose 1 foot in the last century.

The ship was sunk

@@starhunter2770 i mean the one that he had crush with,how did it end?

@@mahyldavanlalvuli2352 do u mean what happens to the girl (I forgot her name I think it’s Joan) and Turing? U probably don’t need to know now though. I can tell u what happens but it’s on Netflix now and I’d recommend you watch it

@@kayw9235 i cant watch Netflix though😿 but what im saying is u know when he was young he used to have a crush on a boy (his friend) so he figured that one of his workers was his crush brother and hia crush was in the ship which they tried to destroy. Maybe not so i don't know what happened after that

@@mahyldavanlalvuli2352 no his crush when he was a boy died from a lung disease or something he had (its in the film when young Turing it told) and I don’t think that that boy was his crushes brother, although years later the world find out he’s gay and that was seen as really bad back then so they give him medication and he commits suicide (this part is after the was but you don’t see the suicide bit it just tells u) hope this helped and actually made sense

How? She looks good

@@dapichutrainer might be the reason exactly

@@dapichutrainer Yeah, I think that´s the point?

What do you mean some other decoding team? It was just them, there was no need for humans decoding shit, the machine did it for them, it doesn't matter who decoded it, what matters is that Britain could decode enigma, and if they showed up to where the enemy was the Germans would have figured it out

If you want the history, look up Ultra WW2. Ultra intelligence was derived from decoded Enigma messages, and was considered so critical that only a few handful of people had access to it. Acting on any intelligence garnered by Ultra wasn't allowed, unless there was another source that could have gotten that intelligence (recon planes, field units, POWs, etc). If there was a second source observable by the Germans, then Ultra could be directly acted on. Otherwise, its best use was strategic planning. If you know the enemy's position and likely avenues of attacks, you can plan 3 or 4 steps ahead to make any victory meaningless.

Your masculinity is very fragile.

75% of Bletchley's workforce were women and

You’d be speaking German or worse in a concentration camp if it weren’t for this “gay”