You can be as masculin of feminin as you want, but at the point where you disrespect other males or females because they are not this masculin or feminin as you are, you are infact toxic.
@@jakob7211 but if they disrespected me first, then I will turn the other cheek I will use what ever ammo they wanna give to me against them and if you think that's out of anger you are wrong, that is to get them to see their shortcomings and rise above it, that is the essence of masculinity, create, train, protect. Anyone who sees this as negative is because they are the polar opposite, their internal desire can only be destroy, neglect, and harm others.
I was dismayed to see that 2.8K 👎🏾 excuses for real men are still using girly blouse moisturiser. However, now that I have learned that Gillette have taken down their loss inducing failure of their woke-feck advertising scheme, I might just go out and buy a packet of G2 slaloms, but let them be warned - any recurrence of numpty bullshit and I’m going back to my cutthroat.
The Swedish school situation sounds like a surreal fever dream. I couldn't imagine growing up, being forced to be feminine. I'm concerned for the girls as well, being forced to be masculine. That sounds like a sure-fire way to cause at least some confusion, if not lifelong problems.
As a swede, this situation is the dumbest thing i have ever seen in my life. thankfully I was born 17 years too early for this to effect me. These "gender specialists" are just batshit crazy people who are extremely toxic to the youth of our country. Also the gender specialists are just women above the age of 50 who have no idea how to treat a child.
Yeah, i’m so glad i grew up in Norway, even just here things are way more normal than in sweden. I also could not imagine being forced to play with dolls when i was younger, that would be a nightmare
"That sounds like a sure-fire way to cause at least some confusion, if not lifelong problems." Yes, but more than that that is the surest way to create a society that will not too long into the future collapse. Which is what the second-wave feminism was created for by the Marxists in the West and the US.
I actually had an experience with this not long ago, when my girlfriend ridiculed me and my friends for being competitive in school and sports because we enjoy it and it's in our nature, but she insisted that we are 'just upsetting people' and that it wasn't masculinity. I then proceeded to mention how most guys I know are the same but sadly she just insulted me fore generalising people of my own gender even though I was just pointing out common traits. The last thing was that she told me to give up on competition entirely because winning may upset the losers, which basically meant I had to give up on what I wanted to do in life. Long story short I broke up with her over this.
Thank god you broke up with her. People like her should not be able to riducule anybody for doing what they love. I would understand the situation if she was worried of a addiction or something but, this is a massive bruh.
I actually get a lot of shit for having a competitive nature too, nothing wrong with it, as long as we're not being assholes I don't see why people get all hurt about it
@@3therea11 I personally believe that toxic masculinity exists but I don't understand why people are saying that masculinity in general is toxic. Masculinity is a good thing and is an essential part of society. I think the real toxic masculinity isn't about the things he's talking about. My definition is shaming other men for not acting "masculine" obviously there isn't anything wrong with acting extremely masculine but shaming someone for not being masculine is wrong. There's also things that society states isn't masculine even though it has nothing to do with any non masculine traits. Things like makeup, skincare, and fashion have nothing to do with masculine or feminine traits whatsoever. The true toxic masculinity isn't acting masculine but it's shaming others for not acting masculine and telling others that something that isn't masculine or feminine isn't masculine. And to the people that think that masculinity is toxic in general just remember that there are no sexist feminists there are only sexists that think they're feminists.
@@davidlee7676 Yeah exactly, there' nothing wrong with masculinity or femininity, they're just descriptions of traits people have, and while some of these can be toxic socially, they're not exclusive to one or the other. Some people are just assholes, really.
well, it seems like you either wanted a form of advice or just wanted to share your story. so yeah, your ex was being a little irrational and I personally sense there was another issue maybe going on at the time seeing as its kinda an odd thing to argue over. and you made the right call breaking up with her. competition can cause upset for some, but that doesn't mean you should give up entirely. masculinity isnt clear cut though. people who are masculine arent the same nor are the way they express being masculine. so generalising people by having common traits can come off as maybe too deterministic in nature. still, dont give up on school or sports man, liking them doesn't make you toxic
The thing is though i appreciate this comment, slot of both men and women have put to much attention to the wrong demographic, like guys saying all girls are the same, that term is being focused on the wrong demographic of women there are good women out there, same thing for the women, slot of women are believing that all guys will just use them for just sex, then leave, yes there are men who do that, that doesn't mean every man out there does, there are good men with good heart, they are being ignored because they are confused with the bad demographic of men, again same thing with women, we just get with the bad people and assume the good people are bad without looking into their character, and the good people also think everyone is bad, so good people don't get with good people because of that fear
"It EnCoUrAgEs ViCtImIzAtIoN"! Bruv I was the slow kid. I was the kid everyone went straight to tag cause they knew my slow ass couldn't catch them. It sucked and I got pissed so I stopped playing tag. Then I played something I was good at and had fun. Know what I learned from that? Stop doing what you suck at, and do what you're good at doing.
my dad was a miner, he liked to go for a pint and swore like a trooper. he was very much an alpha male. however he never swore infront of women or kids, he was a great dad and husband. he worshipped my mother and us kids. he taught me how to be a man and im so greatful to him. im what you might call rough and ready, ive worked on the pipelines all my life and had many fights. i stick up for the under dog treat my wife right and have never been a bully.....
Try and explain different physiology like different insertion angles of the hip and shape of the pelvis, and brace for being told you're mansplaining. It's a heck of a catch-22.
@@chadpomerleau8731 I've explained the same to some people, a few men were the ones who interrupted me to tell me that women are simply inferior in every biological sense. It's a two way street.
Also, @@i10i60 is either a troll or a fkn brainded... Whatever you describe as such, women can do that just as well / just as often 🤦 In other words, the 'man' part is senseless
That's because the opinions expressed in this video are shared by the majority of people but lunatic left call us evil and sexist for having them. So, when a video like this comes out, we all like it to show that our opinion is unanimous.
Beyond Science? No, that's a different channel. Heh. But yeah, I agree with the general idea of your statement. I feel a lot of people would consider this video "controversial," however, it is more or less common sense. Which is what in think you were eluding to.
My aunt and her mother are refugees. Mother's day 2018 will always stick out in their minds. Not one woman living in the west protested the women being killed because Danny (Ortega) Trujilo is a hero. Killing women is heroic?- Aunt.
@@Sir_Jordan2032 Bruh, you don’t want to cry because you don’t want to. Many women are like that too, we all don’t want to cry in public but we pretend like there is more than ‘not wanting to be shamed’ and we hold onto excuses like ‘because I’m a man’ or ‘because society.’ It’s not because you’re a man, it’s simply because you’re insecure.
I don't. And you don't need to say "as a woman" . Your sex doesn't put a different spin on your comment, despite what you may think. Both sexes can be misogynistic.
@@alexviol1587 If you didn't understand my reply, you will.have to be a little more specific in regards to what you disagree with.😁 I don't even remember this video tbh but I think I'm saying her comment is misogynistic and that isn't changed or negated by her stating she is a woman. Hope that clarifies things for you!
It’s so funny how “liberals” these days are the very opposite of liberal. Well… I say funny, but it’s actually sad and frightening to see massive corporations and governments take advantage of these people.
Toxic masculinity is such a loosely used term that it could be used for anything these days. I have been called "toxic" because I enjoy things like strength sports and lifting weights. A friend of mine was called toxic for simply being nice by holding the door for someone. It's a term that has no true meaning, but is up to the interpretation of the lunatic using it and by people who may find a masculine hobby threatening or intimidating out of fear or lack of understanding. I prefer the term "douchbag" because that can fit both men and woman.
How can people even think that holding the door for someone else can be toxic in any way? _”That is really toxic that you did not shut that door in my face.“_
@@bodgemaster7946 Exactly. Its insanity. Some would even say its "rape" as well, and it represents a man giving a woman permission to enter a doorway. Insanity. Pure insanity.
@@jachin5177 What I wanna know is when this guy started picking up men`s rights talking points cuz I swore at one point he was a part of the SJW crowd. Has that changed? or was I just wrong. Either way I no longer dislike himXD
@@grapenut6094 You know, I'm not to sure to be honest xD I have watched his videos on and off for a long time and he always seemed natural, but maybe something really struck a cord with him about this topic. I'm glad he made this video though because at least we know he gets it! Top lad!
I kinda agree? Because of you, instead of "bitch" or "idiot" (it's the only thing i call jerky males), i'll start calling jerks "doucebags"-regardless of gender.
I just call it a episode of collective psychosis. It only requires a we vs them scenario and someone with authority to enforce the narrative. And it happens a lot.
As a female the only thing I want to tell you is that drinking alcohol is bad, unhealthy and it can become a toxic habit. If you want to be a good men, succeed in something, be a responsible father and husband one day - alcohol will not get you there. So be careful with how much alcohol do you drink. Fixing/tuning cars is pretty cool.
That voice, I could listen to it for hours. I think next time the Q comes up on Facebook about who would narrate your life; my answer will be a toss up between Carl Sagan and Thoughty2. Of course, Mr. Bill from Saturday Night Live or Benny Hill would be more suitable for how mine has gone. :)
I am a masculine woman and my husband is a femenine man. We work like that. However, I would never abuse the gender roles out of my children. I was a tomboy, but I chose that. We should never force them! My husband was more delicate because he chose to. We must choose.
These fake "mens rights" activist and toxic masculinity force feminine men to not have an option and FORCE them to be masculine. They are r3tards who take human rights / choice away from people.
I learned how to be a man from my father. the sweetest and most compassionate and caring man I ever met. Who also happens to be military veteran and has 30 years as Corrections Officer in a state penitentiary. He’s the most masculine man I know and I’ve never even heard him swear in front of a lady.
Masculinity has nothing to do about swearing or slurs. Where the FUCK does that connection come from. I am baffled by this amount of stupid assumption. Respect to your father for serving his country though.
@@feralbluee thank you! I always appreciate positivity. I recommend his video about why everyone is offended. I hope you enjoy that too. Have a good day!
I was brought up to hold doors open/ offer my seat on a train or bus. I always did that but then I started to receive negative and offensive responses from some women that I don't do it anymore. Once offered my seat to a pregnant woman. Her response was "I'm pregnant, it's a condition, not an illness" That was the last straw.
Wow, as a woman I'm happy anytime anyone opens a door for me or gives me a seat. I don't consider myself very pretty so I'm always astonished when someone will take notice of me and be nice, so I never reject the kindness of men just trying to do a good thing.
You've just had some poor encounters there, it is common place to give up your chair to the elderly as well as pregnant women so you haven't done anything wrong just a bad turn of luck.
why did people decide that having common decency was an attack of character, in fucking primary school id always hold open the door for the whole class and i got spat in the face every time i did so, mostly by girls.
personally, i feel the problem is they got it backward. people who are being kind to women are treated like this now but it should be the people who are rude to men and only nice to women. we shouldn't fix this by teaching everyone to be rude and uncaring to women as well as men but instead to show this kindness to both men and women. like the whole thing about holding a door open for a lady and how its considered sexist to do that maybe instead just hold the door open for people whether male or female and whether you're male or female as a better kinder form of equality.
That kind of endless indignation is so pointless. Similarly when you try to help an elderly person and they get cranky. Being able to accept help graciously is a very civilized skill.
Thank you for raising awareness on this issue! I find it sad that so many people don't understand basic biology, and I hope that people will reconsider how society wants them to view men.
if reality ruled youtube all top trends would be a bout things on "the right" i hate that word because its laced with propaganda from the left, but nonetheless...
Thank you for your comment. I was about to start hating women but i read comments about women thanking good men. So now I have to thing of you (plural) when dealing with bitches.
@@viotio7358 Open your eyes. The minority is the feminazis. Go out. Communicate. Watch. You might need help. The normal people are the healthy people. Meaning, they don't hate the other gender etc.
Just wait till you're married, hun. And the sense of self entitlement kicks in for him. Other men will tell your new husband that he now has an unpaid slave, and he is a king in his own little kingdom. And his expectations will change. It happens every single time.
@Josh Belcher He did say this. I think the author of this comment means we shouldn't compare apples to oranges or test the climbing abilities of a fish. Men and women are different by nature.
The quote is actually: "For instance, it is thought that justice is equality, and so it is, though not for everybody but only for those who are equals; and it is thought that inequality is just, for so indeed it is, though not for everybody, but for those who are unequal" . The quote above in the comment is just simplified. Check: en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Aristotle
*smashes my head against the wall* the whole point of the phrase “toxic masculinity” was to describe a toxic expression of masculinity, not to call all masculinity toxic.
Yeah the list of virtues he assigns to masculinity are entirely arbitrary What women, who give birth are less courageous and resilient? He's really just being disingenuous to cater to the aggrieved conservative white male demographic. Haven't seen whole video yet but when is he actually going to talk about toxicity, or the fact that men are 9% of the victims of sexual assault and 99% of the perpetrators. What about murder, violence and what about imperialism while wer're on the goddam subject?
@@garydeforve5055 how can you even link murder with toxic masculinity? And nowhere in the video he actually criticizes or admonishes feminine traits. And I've encountered plenty of women and men online who are toxic feminists and blame the entire male gender for all the world's problems. You're clearly one of those.
@@garydeforve5055 also where did you get your statistics? 9% and 99%? I call bull. Before you can prove your statement with valid facts (and saying "everybody knows it, it's a universals truth" doesn't make it any more true), you have no right to spew hate on men like that.
Never be ashamed of your masculinity my hairy friends, because it built the roads beneath your feet. Damn, that was so powerful, such a high quality content.
@@yeahheyyayya4745 but you've browsed RU-vid a bit, right? How can you make a claim like that, when the internet and the real world is full of believers in an inherent toxicity of masculinity. Or I just overread your sarcasm :D
The roads of the US (the major ones that connect us) were ancient causeways groomed by Native American cultures. (source - "An Indiginous Peoples' History of the US" by Dunbar-Ortiz) ... But that aside, men are wonderful. Beacons of hard work and the fruits it bears, among other things. However there is an ugly underbelly, as is so with femininity ~ we (women) just haven't had enough power for that to matter very much, beyond in personal life. Women have contributed so much to this society that has gone unnoticed (for better or worse, like a glue holding it together in the bloodbath of colonization, always silently advancing us forward socially, intellectually, and personally). That story, of women, has been retold and reshaped, and stained with shame and degradation as a control tactic. The shaping of our mutual story by men (literally "his"tory) has had profound negative consequences for many people, as groups of people have been defined by rich and powerful ruling men. So yes, we are questioning and demanding to rewrite these definitions. Examining why, and how they came to be. It is okay for us all to acknowledge the negative impact of a male dominated story, so we can grow past it in a new direction. Progress and growth are not easy. There is so much pain and hardship, isolation, brutality, and shame that this male-dominated society has unnecessarily woven into all of our lives, through control of our mutual perspective. (Education, history, and media). This is where I stand, wanting spiritual freedom and the removal of banal limitations for all people. Imagine what we would be capable of, imagine how beautiful life could be. All this said - hard work is necessary. Self discipline and grit are necessary. The warrior spirit is native to this planet. These are qualities that I see as archetypical of healthy* masculinity. But BALANCE is necessary, as many ancient wisdoms affirm. As is obvious, if you look at the bigger picture, and if you look plainly into yourself. Balance of the "masculine" and "feminine" polarity, and a healthy relationship between the two.
Teacher: "Now, we are going to practice shouting no." Girl: "NO!" Teacher: "Are you disagreeing with me?!" Girl: "NO!" Teacher: "Good, now we can continue." Girl: "NO!"
The point is, he is "shielding his sweetheart." The age of the actors is irrelevant. Observing that kind of extraneous minutia is pointless and vainglorious. Read the book. Don't waste a learning opportunity by dwelling on the color of the jacket.
it speaks to the validity of what he’s saying that I get chills from being told something as basic as “masculinity should be empowered, not shamed and belittled”
its so shocking how so many people lack common sense and wish to believe that everyone needs to care about their feelings when feelings are just our bodies reacting to our thoughts therefore meaning they're your bodies reaction to yourself.
That is a very Asian way of viewing the world, when i red this , i realized, that what you just said very well describes what i have seen in the eyes of Asians, since i was a kid. to walk under the surface, not boosting or showing off, focusing on the competence, and suddenly become a boss , under the noses of the boosting types.
@@torrace12 Showing off is for the insecure in my opinion. The show off guys try to show of even if there was a 100 times more compotent guy next to him. I've seen that a lot and I laugh everytime. And I'm in Finland. Could be also that people show off because theyre bored and want to show others something cool but thats almost never the case.
As a person who lives in Asia (but not an Asian myself) I can see your point but men still tend to be more competitive than woman. My workplace has 4x more men than women (since they aren't forced to hire anyone in particular) this might be an anecdotal evidence but I have seen a lot of white collar workplaces in asia and most of them are the same and if it's the case for white collar jobs I'm sure blue collar jobs have an even higher number of male jobs.
Me personally in my "Asian Perspective" sees that, there is no problem living your life in each gender, but just beware, expecially my country, There is only 2 Gender and nothing in the middle or around it, Every transgender or Homosexual is sort of "Humiliated" or not accepted by public as it is against religious laws.
Thoughty2 is a realist bro. He knows the facts and has expert delivery! I'm over the moon that he's made this video, now let's share it everywhere and make it viral!!!
@@Shoxic666 and then in the future some activist makes a men's rights organization then some extremists ruin and it all just becomes a cycle of reform and hate lol
I agree. I don't believe in God, but if there is one, thoughty2 is doing the work of the divine. Keep it up lad! Together, we can curbstomp sjw agenda into the dirt and keep them from devolving the human race.
I 100% agree with you Thoughty2, and I'm a woman! Everyday I see men being cursed at for being courteous and having the gall to open a door for a woman yet as a woman I will open the door for everyone, yet no one says anything to me, and it's also funny how when anything dangerous happens women are ready to push the man in front of them as they run to hide but decry a man for trying to be protective. I have been a fighter for women's liberation and equality from I was a teenager back in the sixties, but there was one thing that we need to understood: we may all be human and thus equal but a woman and a man are not the same, we are biologically different. GROW UP AND ACCEPT IT! if you want equality then treat other people as you would want to be treated what ever they are!
What exactly was wrong with the Gillette Ad? It only makes a couple of points: - One is that real men shouldn't bully others or excuse such behavior as "Boys will be Boys." What are you all upset about. Do you really support bullying? - Two is that real men do NOT cat-call, whistle at, or harass women. Real men should stand up to that behavior and tell them that it is not cool. We live in the era of #MeToo, do you really think that slapping a woman on the ass is appropriate behavior these days. Sorry to break it to you guys but toxic masculinity is a thing. As far as I am concerned the ad didn't go far enough. Just look at the prison population. It is 90 percent men. Almost 100% rapes are committed by men. We have a man problem in this country. Boys are broken and need to be fixed. It is not the 20th century anymore, this is not the jungle nor is it the Wild West. We can do better as a species. The future is female and men will be left out of that future if they don't change their ways and stop being a bunch of toxic jerks. The idea that we need ultra masculine men to "protect us" from other bad men is a logical fallacy akin to a mafia protection racket. We wouldn't need "protection" if toxic men didn't exist. It is like the people who argue they want to own machine guns and military grade assault rifles because other bad men and criminals have those guns. Likewise they say we need more toxic men to protect us from other toxic men. Yeah sure. Men are the cause of and solution to all of life's problems.
@Novusand I'm only going to address one point you made as it's 7am here as I type & I need sleep. (so please forgive any spelling or grammar mistakes, I'm really sleepy). As I said in another comment here, I'm a trans woman so have seen things from both sides. You make several good points but I must contest the claim you made that "almost 100% of rapes are committed by men". What follows is from the perspective of UK law, I don't know where I the world you live so your local laws may differ: In the UK rape is defined as forceful penetration with a penis. The law here is very clear that if no penis is involved then it is not rape. A woman could force or drug a man & penetrate him without consent using a sex toy & it would not be rape, it would be tried under "sexual assault" which carries a lighter sentence. If a woman drugged a man to force him into non consentual sex then it still is not rape. In the UK a woman cannot be tried for rape even if the person they take advantage of is under 16 & not legally able to give consent. Until this legal loophole is closed & UK law treats both men & women as equal then it is not fair or correct to cite percentages of convictions as proof of which gender commits the most sex crimes. If this law ever gets made equal then I strongly suspect that men will be found to be responsible for a higher percentage of sex crimes but until the law treats everyone equally percentages cannot be accurate.
This was such a refreshing video. I'm so worried about how society is going now. Fatherless homes is a HUGE problem. Thank you for pointing this out so well!
And toxic masculinity is probably the biggest reason for the high divorce rate. In many cases women have to leave because the kids are worse off with their dad's abusiveness. It's not like women WANT to be single mothers.
@@radonrodan8332 People shaming guys for being abused is ironically part of toxic masculinity, the expectation that guys should live up to this macho ideal. Thoughty2 was debunking a strawman of what toxic masculinity is. Our society in general not just men participate in it, that's why there's domestic abuse shelters for women and not men. Because a man according to society cannot be abused. I don't know what this man was going on about saying that people mean all masculinity is bad, if that's what people meant they wouldn't call it toxic masculinity, they'd just call it masculinity
@@acegikm women initiate 80% of the divorces and of those 80% the overwhelming reason is financial issues while abuse does happen it’s not nearly as prevalent as you make it seem and I would argue that the modern woman does want to be single because they break up families for reasons that can be fixed
most of my Schools hated men to the point where we had a whole day basically on why men are bad. this is a crisis in western society and has had psychological damage to many teenagers and young children. its insane how this is actaully allowed
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim corona. we live in a sanitized world and our immune systems are too weak to handle many diseases so if we were to go to the wild most of us would likely die.
I'm not left nor right but in the passing years i keep getting pushed right due to all this, when you go online theres so much hate towards you just for being a man or straight. and though they all say others are oppressively the pure hypocrisy in those statements and yet support they get really demoralize me
It goes the other way too. Women are not allowed to be women anymore. I don't pay much attention to mass media because they have decided that we're just 'birthing people'. Pretty much cinches it when you are demeaned that much by the so called Elites that you're just a womb man. Toxic nullity seems more apt since they don't want us to be anything.
There are a lot actually. I'd recommend Steven Crowder and maybe Paul Joseph Watson. But sometimes he over commits to some BS narrative lol. Steven Crowder is the man.
@@supasf Hahahahahaha Steven Crowder is smart? The same Steven crowder that says atheists are immoral despite the fact that Atheists make up 0.1% of the federal prison population, and religious make the 99.99%? (that’s not just a majority but an overwhelming majority) The same Steven Crowder that says that global warming is a hoax even thou no respectable scientific institution supports climate change denial? The same Steven Crowder that says that anti gay marriage because marriage is only for straight people? The same Steven crowder that says that climate change is a transgender conspiration? That dumbass is your role model for smart? Hahahahahaha.
@Jay Bee you know what, I might agree to what you said regarding PJW, but I doubt it's the same with Steven. And honestly, even if it is, then please do recommend someone who does "touch upon the main cause of this social turmoil" I did start watching heck off commie as well. Pretty good imo
He's wrong that only a small number of men have toxic masculinity. Then again, he has an accent so maybe he just doesn't know how bad American men get.
@@5698-e2d he made this whole video on the premise that Toxic masculinity means Masculinity itself is inherently toxic in every case. That's not what it means. It's not what people define it is. It's not what anyone thinks but right wing people who don't want to actually engage with the real issue, they see the word, assume what they think it means, and work from there. It's the same as homophobes who deny their homophobia by saying they aren't scared of gay people, even though that's not what it means
@@yeahheyyayya4745 Well, homophobia could be literally translated as such, since phobia does indeed mean fear. While the intended meaning is "hatred and averse toward homosexuals". But frankly the same is almost certainly not the case for "toxic masculinity". The whole concept is based on the idea that some traits and norms associated with masculinity are inherently "toxic". Even self-reliance and repression of emotions are labeled as toxic, since they allegedly promote violence.
"Masculinity does far more good than bad for everyone, both men and women" - what a fabulous and undeniably true observation!! Women who act as if men - and masculinity - are superfluous are deluding themselves. Sadly, the rise of militant feminism has resulted in men feeling as though they're unnecessary. Too many women who profess to believe the t-shirt slogan "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle." end up raising fatherless children with no positive male role models. Humans were meant to pair up and share child-rearing responsibilities, and typically that pair is made up of a male and a female. Arguably this is the best way to rear children who will grow up to become well-rounded adults, especially if they've witnessed the positive, loving interaction of their parents throughout their formative years. Studies show girls raised without a father often chose terrible partners, and boys raised without a father more often become terrible partners. Of course there are exceptions but this proves the rule. Men think like men because their brain is different than the female brain in function and structure, and we need to champion this instead of trying to change it...especially since it is biologically immutable. Sensitivity and caring are not solely feminine traits, nor are courage and assertiveness solely masculine. But trying to make men act less masculine is a fool's errand, and truly DAMAGING to humanity, as Aaran so succinctly explains in this awesome presentation.
To anyone male or female who truly believes " A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle" all I have to say is good luck sustaining the population.
I don’t think the attitude is as prevalent in the real world nearly as much as is made to appear in social media and film and television. And it’s mostly perpetuated by people with financial agendas, not human interests. Don’t be scared of the false reality painted online. I’ve yet to meet any male or female who actually believes the shit you see online. Bots and agents of fictional identities. Yeah, plenty of real people too - ages 12-25. Their opinions are no more impactful on society in the real world as a worm’s opinion. Except the idea is to drive people toward conservatism out of frustration. So don’t worry. It is mostly smoke and mirrors.
Sure, masculinity is great, and no-one wants to do away with masculinity. Thoughty2 is usually pretty canny but he's grabbed the wrong end of the stick on this one. "Toxic masculinity" means specifically "harmful expressions of masculine traits" not "masculinity is toxic". It's like "toxic mushrooms". Certain people like to twist the meaning for political reasons and unfortunately Thoughty bought it and didn't think to google the meaning of the term he's critiquing.
Every time someone says women are gentle, kind, and empathetic I just think about my Asian friend who has an EXTREMELY strict mom who locked her in a closet for missing one word in a spelling bee.
I've been in moments where I've tried to help others, but have been just looked at with disgust due to my gender. All my life I was raised to treat people with the utmost kindness and respect, however hearing people undermine me due to me being a male sucks, I once had a dream to work at weddings, I love decorating and cooking and all that stuff so I really wanted to be apart of that, but after working at a wedding place a couple of times I gave it up, at the time I was a decorator and helped design dresses, I was a teenager at the time so i had all the time to work on that craft. The amount of times I heard "Oh dont listen to him, hes a man, and not even gay" or have people go and talk to a women that didnt know anything about what they wanted only because I was a man, it devastated me. Soon after I gave up on designing and wanting to a part of weddings. Recently I dated this girl and he family was in that business, and I decided that I wanted to give it another try, one of the days i worked there I remeber hearing a woman telling her friend that they didnt want to "Ask a man cause he probably was clueless" and it hurt a lot. I gave up on it again. These arent the only times I've given up on something due to my "Maleness" something I cant change, I've given up on designing clothes, dresses, one of which I actually made for my sister for prom and everyone kept making jokes about how bad it must've been, I gave up on make up, hair and some forms of art. It's kinda funny now cause a lot of people mistake me for a woman with a mask, but when they find out I'm a guy, they treat me differently, hell the most sexism I've experienced in the past year was due to female coworkers saying how much they hated men and that all men do certain things. My coworker now believes all men want sex all the time, that all men masturbate vigorously, and that all men are aggressive, hell shes believes that if a women says no women friends then you should stop being friends with a women, and if you have female friends you are probably fucking them or wanting to fuck them and that having one is a red flag unless your gay. She even comments when me and another coworker talk about women saying "it's funny seeing you guys talk about women considering you both arent" like men cant have empathy or know how social constructs work or have a simple understanding of basic human decency. It's really shitty and it genuinely fuckin sucks. I've experienced other men telling me to "Man up" and honestly it was for the better, I was a rather sensitive person and if they wouldnt have been more hard on me I'd probably never be able to live in society today, I'm still a gentle person but I'm not as sensitive to insults, which works cause honestly sometimes I wish I wasnt a man, the worst part being that sometimes I dont feel right in my body, I feel like since I'm more gentle and on the feminine side I shouldnt be in a mans body, I dont desire to be a woman, but I also sometimes am tired of having to be what people think is a man. It sucks. Seeing people walk past me as I'm struggling in every way, having past partners discredit my opinions cause im a man, having my feelings on them doing something they knew I wasnt comfortable with being seen as controlling, and being beaten and then having people ask what I did to deserve it.. sometimes I just wish that i wasnt born the way i was cause it sucks, and it hurts, and it doesnt stop hurting. I have a son, and I genuinely hope he turns out to be nothing like me cause his life will be easier that way.
I'm so sorry that you had to go all through this. People shaming you for doing your job because you like it, is very disheartening. Most of the people misinterpret what masculinity is and that is what you have faced till now. Each person is born different and has different interests, hobbies, opinions and a way of life. And you also lived your life that way. I assure you that there's nothing wrong in it. I won't say you not to care about what other people say, because I know that in the end we all are humans, who feel hurt because of active or passive shaming, insults, bullying, etc. I will say that you must not regret for you, being yourself. You are not the one at fault for being passionate about your work, hobbies and other things. You have never been at fault for having feelings, emotions, kindness, and compassionate behaviour. If you are true to yourself, you must never give up. The society and the people are at fault for treating you like this. My friend, don't regret for being born like that because I feel like you are a wonderful person. I will say again, always be true to yourself, and never give up. People will say many things; get back at them, so that they hesitate for commenting on you. It will take some time, courage and determination, but it is the thing that will give you confidence, morale boost and a feel of comfort. And as for your son, give him a proper education and give him proper life advices time to time, teach him how to differentiate between good and bad, treat him good and don't shame him for his mistakes, rather try to understand him. Restriction and protection is needed but try not overdo it. Listen to him too.Your relationship with him will not be always perfect, but your teachings and his understanding will make a balanced and healthy relationship between you two. I don't how old he is but all this will make him a great man with his utmost repect for you and he will be or is proud to have a father like you. I hope I could comfort you you with my trivial words and encouragement. Have a nice day!
@@jayvaibhawverma I really do appreciate the words, more than you know or I could show. Life is hard, and I definitely will get back at those who have shamed for being myself, even though I've been down about myself, and the way I am, i still wont give up, not on myself or the ones I love. Thank you so much for the kind words.
Telling this tale was brave of you. Judging by what you're saying about these 'women', it's pretty clear that they're not even women after all. They're petty little narcissists that didn't have the privilege of growing up. Overconfident damaged people that are trampling today's society. Don't let them belittle who you are and give them the privilege to effect your mood and how you feel. We are the only persons who can directly dictate how we feel. Let me tell you this; people say many things and judge all the time. We shouldn't ignore everything cuz some of it is the truth. But by what you're saying those little girls know nothing of what it is to be stoic, brave, loyal, noble and strong. I also have both feminine and masculine traits. We all do. And I embrace both. I can be savage and daring but I can also be compassionate and caring. Be authentic and show your best self. And a good way to start that is by starting to practice stoicism and self improvement. Become stronger everyday and inspire that strength to your kid and everyone around you! We need strength more than ever! Fight for strength! Fail better everyday! Do not let any woman or man child belittle your efforts and make you feel bad! Do not fear failure! Greatness from small beginnings.
@@Panzerfaust-ux8xb I try everyday recently to grow as a person, grow better for my son and the people I gold close. One thing that does help is, weirdly enough, the internet. I put myself out there through things I make and seein whenever I make even just one person laugh or make their day better, it makes me feel like I'm doin somethin worth while. My job is also super fun, I enjoy makin things for people and possibly turning their day a little better. You're right, those people were children, they had no reason to be that way towards me just for bein a man, but with then doin that my life was set on a pretty good course, I love where I am now, I found myself again and the things I love to do, I make stupid things I post online and people actually like it, I wouldn't really change where I'm at now. Even if people still give me shit about me bein a man working in a female dominated place, I'm okay with that, I'm just gunna prove them wrong by bein myself and makin the best possible things I can.
@@Xeroux That's the spirit! Having online presence can increase the amount of toxic criticism towards you sometimes, but it can also make you realize how much potential you truly have, since you're exposed to many more points of view online. It can help tremendously with rising above the toxic shitty environments one can sometimes live in. Like you mentioned, people may like stuff that you or others around you may judge as shitty, and you can learn much more when broadening the exposure, even though sometimes people or trolls may judge you harshly. At least you wouldn't be stuck with a bunch of children's mentality. Use every situation as a lesson to your advantage, and keep doing what you love! If you ever feel like a loser, remember that anyone who was highly successful was a loser who never gave up. What matters most is that you keep on battering and pummeling, and failing better everyday.
I am also born in 1990, and totally agree with you. Some things i just can't fully understand. For instance i saw my father slapping my mother once in childhood... but for me that was an example of what to not do. I am with my wife for 11 years now...we never had a fight... some minor arguments here and there. Btw my parents overcome their problems and are a happy gandparends couple
Thank you very much, as a man that grew in an abusive household I am looking forward to doing good for my own family and this video speaks loud for us all .
@@augustusmcgovern6084 i mean, "Being hated just cause I'm a guy is pretty sexist" seems like a pretty straightforward statement. Wanna elaborate on your own toxicity?
@@garretteckhardt6665 Why can't the OP elaborate since he's the one that got you and that dumb arse Inter Racial all riled up? He made a blanket statement without anything else. Are you gonna ask the OP that question or not?
U are the second RU-vidr that I’ve seen take a break from their usual content to talk about these subjects that are being pushed on our youth and us I’m glad there are more people calling them out on this bullshit great video brother thanks for having the courage to speak on behalf of the every day man
It hurts the soul to see this child abuse going on in schools in Sweden. I can't imagine a sane person approving this curriculum. What could possibly be the positive outcome?
As a swedish women, I am seriosly scared of what this is doing and will do to men in the future, its so important that men grow up with good father figures that shows the good sides of musculinity. Sadly many swedish women are naive and brainwashed, its truly sad. I think this experiment will hurt society a lot, just like the big immigration from africa and middle east. I think it will likely produce either very soft and uncompetive men who will off course fail to attract females and probably become very unsocial and then we have those men who will grow up to hate women for this man-shaming ideology and and form some countermovement (already seen in MGTOW-movements).
@@Linda-pk3fz And as a Swedish woman, you see this. Who are the ones that do not see this and what is their reasoning or motives? I agree with everything you said and it will also produce incels and very confused men. How is this helpful to society?
@@VentiVonOsterreich i like how we were the first country to ban hitting children as a punishment, but our current prime minister is so dumb that he encourages this shit
I always understood the concept of "toxic masculinity" as societal pressure on man to be traditionally manly - not as man beeing toxic. As an example: fathers not beeing able to say "I love you" to their children in order of not beeing vulnerable or man feeling unable to open up about sexual harassment, feeling like they should have wanted it anyway is toxic masculinity at its best, putting man not in the role of the aggressor but as the victim of toxic masculinity.
yeah and that's it i don't think anyone's refuting men & women are biologically different? because that's out of the argument 🤷♂️ it's the reason why men suicide rates are so high. men don't speak about their mental health because that's being 'weak' & for some reason 'weak' goes hand in hand with 'feminity' which is just wrong. not speaking about how u feel & just suppressing your emotions will eventually lead to suicide! that's toxic masculinity. Literally no one's says being 'masculine' is 'bad'
@@maryamalammary it's kind of short sighted to blame all suicide rates on men not expressing their feelings, because "it looks weak". Men in general just don't get the same support in everyday life has women do, and it doesn't help that most men growing up are touch and empathy starved without even knowing it, all the way well into adulthood. I was completely shaken up by one friend of mine who gives people hugs before and after hanging out with people. After a year of knowing her, she had hugged me more times than everyone combined in my entire life before hand, I had no idea how to handle my emotions, was completely unprepared, and at first it honestly really scared me. She really put into prospective what a good supportive friend is like. I've since slowly grown a lot as a person, have acquired many more amazing friends, and have learned how to open up more, but not every guy is lucky like me to have that warming experience. Being a man can be a very cold, incredibly isolating, despondent, and lonely experience, while being all painfully normalized to the point a lot of men don't even know HOW to be vulnerable to begin with. I for a long time didn't, nor even understood it was suppose to be a "normal" thing.
@Blaize m yes you're certainly correct, & that's toxic masculinity. Toxic masculinity can be boiled down to BUT NOT ONLY anything a man 'can't do' simply because it's 'feminine'. Men's mental health is a joke, no one cares about it because everyone just expects a man to be a 'man' which merely wrong & here you experienced it 1st hand. You're supposed to be able to hug and talk to your men friends always, not only women friends. I had a dude vent to me about his break up after 2 years & he told me how he couldn't talk to his friends about it because he was just supposed to 'get over it' ??????? that's toxic masculinity, why don't men emotionally support their friends? u should be able to talk about these topics with your men friends without it being 'cheesy' or 'sensitive' another example i see 2nd hand is when my younger brother cries & is immediately told to stop because boys don't cry from my father ? my brother loves cars, but he also likes mlp (my little pony) though he is also 'embarrassed' to tell his friends he does because it's 'girly' you're right all these complications are PLANTED into men through out to adulthood which IS WRONG; that's toxic masculinity. The dude in the vid completely missed the point of toxic masculinity, men aren't toxic but THEYRE told from childhood to be emotionless, are not provided with a support system which results in toxic masculinity. Just like you & any other man really who is willingly open to improve & grow will hopefully be able to learn that toxic masculinity is wrong 👍you need to be provided the resources, from other men & not only women.
@A curious Jaggi don't worry it's all bro logic - it only makes sense if your a bro! (I changed it from man to bro does that make me sexist probably but the wholes video is sexist I just trying to support the fragile male ego in whatever way I can lol.
One of the few videos that actually explain what masculinity truly is and doesn't try to make it seem like some kind of evil thing inherent to all men because the creators didn't bother to look through 5 pages of an actual research study and instead decided to follow the drama train that is modern society's response to men being men. Amazing vid, keep up the good work.
