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The Jack Wolf Knives Sharpshooter Slipjoint Pocketknife: The Full Nick Shabazz Review 

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Today, we'll take a look at a new knife from a new brand, the Jack Wolf Gunstock slipjoint, which is a very serious, faithful and well done traditional knife, albeit with a very serious pricetag.

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12 апр 2022

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@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Thanks for the review Nick. Respectfully, here is my response: (Price) While I understand you would like the price to be less, this is simply not possible. Due to the skilled hand labor involved in making these, they are more costly to manufacture than many of the Chinese locking knives on the market offered at this price. Add in the standard dealer margin and a reasonable margin for my small company, you end up at this price. The packaging does not cost as much as you might think, that really is a strong value add for the customer. I make less than the dealers on these, so there is no room to come down, unless I work for free. (Blade Stock) The .120 Blade Stock is commonly found on high end slip joints with a hollow grind. These blades perform EXCEPTIONALLY WELL. Also, the thicker stock provides more lateral strength at the spine, a stronger overall joint at the pivot, and a thicker spring for a more substantial handle when holding the knife. The grind allows for incredible slicing performance so there is no real benefit to thinner stock other than an overall thinner knife which customers can get from other brands if they want. (Spine Edges) While nobody else has noted these as being too sharp, and the crisp lines here are attractive and allow for a good pinch on the knife while opening, I am going to talk to the manufacturer about softening these edges. These have sold out in most places but are still available at OCD-4-EDC, Arizona Custom Knives & Blade Capone. Thank you everyone for reading! -Ben
@TheGeekiestGuy
@TheGeekiestGuy 2 года назад
I enjoy the design on your work. If I can find one and I have the cash to get one, I'd be happy to pick one up. Thank you for your design work and thank you for making a knife you love and stand behind. 🤙🏾
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
@@TheGeekiestGuy Thank you very much for the kind words! I really appreciate it. I am humbled to offer these knives to the world!
@chrisjaskulski8613
@chrisjaskulski8613 2 года назад
Are they Chinese? Should be $75 or less
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
@@chrisjaskulski8613 they cost more than that to make.
@chrisjaskulski8613
@chrisjaskulski8613 2 года назад
@@BenBelkin raw deal man.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Thanks for the fair shake Nick. Your feedback is noted and will be strongly considered. For anyone interested, these are dropping Friday at 2PM ET at all my dealers (except a few that vary their drop schedule). There is a dealer list on the website, thank you!
@jakeganey7032
@jakeganey7032 2 года назад
Good to see more knives made by furries
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
@@jakeganey7032 Hi Jake, these are not made by furries
@beaurex4756
@beaurex4756 2 года назад
@Archie Baldwin I'll pass.
@benleibhan2971
@benleibhan2971 2 года назад
As a slip joint fanatic, I am super excited for this release. Was able to hold one of the prototypes and was very impressed.
@erhon5
@erhon5 2 года назад
Glad to hear they will probably be doing more I love the gun stock design
@profesorEDC
@profesorEDC 2 года назад
Great review Nicolás, as always very honest and objective. Hope you guys are doing well.😁✌️
@magicdave93
@magicdave93 Год назад
I’ve just received my K9 Jack and I love it yes it’s not cheap but then nether is a Sebenza and the fit and finish is spot on. Finally I think Ben is doing a great job at promoting the modern slip joint.
@wagstaff6135
@wagstaff6135 2 года назад
Totally love the look of these. And pricing is about what I'd expect, given Pena and Esnyx and the other overseas manufacturer.... But I would have loved to have been surprised at the pricing! At the moment cant spend that much or really justify spending that much. Hopefully some day I can!
@KnivesFAST
@KnivesFAST 2 года назад
Good review Nick. Ben is a really good dude. And he's got lots of plans coming. I really love this knife and the way it's done. Thanks
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Thank you for the kind words KC!
@jd4edc
@jd4edc 2 года назад
Excellent review and much appreciated Nick 👍
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Thank you for tuning in!
@nandayane
@nandayane 2 года назад
2022 is the year of the modern slip joint.
@Roland_4012
@Roland_4012 Год назад
At first glance, $300 for a high-end slipjoint made in China seems a lot, but US manufacturers such as Chris Reeve or Medford offer slipjoints that are up to $200 more expensive but cannot compete with products from Jack Wolf Knives, Reate or J.E. Made in terms of fit and finish. At least Medford offers an own design
@Cid_1
@Cid_1 2 года назад
Hopefully some of their other models will have different finished bolsters. I'd love to see some brushed and polished Ti bolsters etc also (perhaps anodized in different colors), I can imagine that would look beatiful against the micarta and CF panels.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Thank you for the feedback!
@DavidV4444
@DavidV4444 2 года назад
One of the dealers offers layaway very clearly in their site and I took prompt advantage of that! I handled one of these and I can say the blade thickness is very much appreciated- I returned my Tactile Bexar because it was absolutely fragile with overly think stock, making the knife feel cheap. I own many traditionals and can say without hesitation that this is one of the very best out there at any price point. I also prefer US made knives as 95% of my collection is Buck, Case, GEC and Chris Reeve (16 Chris Reeve knives) however, I am willing to make exceptions where the company is US based - I do not own a single knife made from a company based in China (WE, Civivi, etc). I personally am supporting Jack Wolf knives because we need more traditional knives and I will Support anyone putting such amazing quality into the marketplace. We hurt US makers when we heavily support overseas companies this is a US company and that makes a big difference for me.
@franka9760
@franka9760 Год назад
Thanks for honest review, Nick. I agree with you on just about every point. Looks pretty well made, but for $300 it just doesn't do enough. For slipjoints, I'll stick with US-made from Case, etc.
@wertzuio2127
@wertzuio2127 2 года назад
You know what the world needs now? A video from you about the Giantmouse farley! Would love to hear your thoughts on it, hopefully they will send one over to you!
@danielwasused
@danielwasused 2 года назад
i find the whole nameless by contract thing that the same oem always does and continues to do so hilarious
@vlkafenryka788
@vlkafenryka788 2 года назад
Reate does want their 300 bucks
@johnhannon8372
@johnhannon8372 Год назад
Thanks Nick I believe this was the one and only honest review of this $300 Sharpshooter knife by Jack Wolf..Thank You..
@MiloTupy
@MiloTupy Год назад
Yeah, I agree, The sharpshooter model looks like it should be locking. Like the buck 110. I’m about to pull the trigger on the K9 It’s just so unique I can’t pass it up. I think these Jack wolf knives are freaking awesome
@3212009a
@3212009a 2 года назад
Nice knife, I may pick up one of the other models. This is also by far the most Fury knife company I know of.
@franksalot4357
@franksalot4357 2 года назад
This was my first slipjoint. The craftmanship and the use of high end materials are impressive. This knife will stand the test of time and I look forward to passing it down to my grandchildren. Kudos to Jack Wolf Knives! Well done!
@mildmannerededc
@mildmannerededc 2 года назад
The walk-n-talk and hollow grind pleases me... however, for the price, I'd have expected the Pog to at least be a Slammer.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Hey MMEDC, Every model comes with a POG featuring the unique packaging artwork. So collectors will get a cool POG collection over time. As far as slammers go, I have something cool planned for that. As far as the price, the knives are a lot more expensive to produce than I think people realize. It is the skilled hand labor and thus mated parts that are involved in making these. They actually cost more to produce than many of the locking knives at this price point that nobody sneezes at. After the dealer margin and a reasonable margin for me, the price is what it is. I actually make less than the dealers, if that matters to anyone.
@mildmannerededc
@mildmannerededc 2 года назад
@@BenBelkin Hey Ben, I was being a little tongue and cheek on the Slammer comment, but now I'm even more intrigued. I totally understand cost, especially for something built so well (nailing a modern traditional is no small feat), and I know it's not easy to put yourself out there, both financially and to hear reviews of your design, so lots of respect from me. Good luck!
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
@@mildmannerededc Thank you brother! I appreciate your feedback as always! Ben
@zel8913
@zel8913 2 года назад
These look like Pena X series...look at the other Jack Wolf variations on their website. Copycat or same manufacturer...that being said...I love this style! Well done
@beyproctor7673
@beyproctor7673 2 года назад
Price persnicketation is now why I watch this channel! Seriously though. I like this knife a lot. Better than the Lionsteel Bestman.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Thank you sir! I appreciate your kind words. -Ben
@DanielRose-ul3dr
@DanielRose-ul3dr 11 месяцев назад
The Sharp spine, is exceptionel good on a firesteel, and the hard tension helps the knife not closing.
@Abby_Normal_1969
@Abby_Normal_1969 2 года назад
I wanted to get my brother in law a nice, med tier knife, but it has to be a slip joint due to laws in the country he lives. This knife caught my eye a week or two ago. I am happy to see this review.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Hi Abby, if you get him one, please let me know how he likes it! I currently have 3 international dealers you can choose from.
@mikec3201
@mikec3201 2 года назад
oh God this sharp shooter exactly how it is with a heel lock would be so epic! I'd buy two in a heart beat lol
@Orochi_001
@Orochi_001 2 года назад
If the plan was to get a review out of everyone they sent a knife to, it’s been a resounding success of the marketing department. This has to be like the tenth video covering this knife to release within the last two weeks. Of course, this is the finest video.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Orochi, thank you for watching!
@Orochi_001
@Orochi_001 2 года назад
@@BenBelkin the knife is beautiful
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
@@Orochi_001 Thank you. As far as the marketing department goes, well that is me, I am also the Janitor, the president, and everything in between. Have a great day. -Ben
@traviswrigg5158
@traviswrigg5158 2 года назад
I feel like what I want in life is a modern slipjoint like this or the Lionsteel CK01 series using something other than M390. Like saaay K390, or CPM-M4. Something that can be taken really thin thanks to its inherent toughness. I'm willing to put up with some tarnishing due to the non-stainlessness of the blade steel. OBSERVE! I have traditionals in 1095 which tarnishes way more of than M4 could ever dream of
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Hi Travis, I am getting a lot of requests for K390 so this is something I am strongly considering for future runs. Because most modern knife users are more comfortable with stainless, that is where I started to reduce some risk coming out of the gate. Thank you for the feedback!
@traviswrigg5158
@traviswrigg5158 2 года назад
@@BenBelkin Goodness gracious, the fact that you even took the time to consider this borderline absurd desire from life of mine speaks volumes haha
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
@@traviswrigg5158 LOL I'm always open to suggestions!
@davidmarshall7752
@davidmarshall7752 2 года назад
Top-notch trad/mod folder, reminds me of a J.E. Made [sans backspring tool]. The micarta looks like denim, could've been dyed better. I like the titanium bolsters.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Hi David, thanks for the kind words. FYI this Micarta is American sourced and are known for having the best quality stuff in the business. But I understand how you may not like the aesthetic. With a swipe of oil over it, you can darken it up markedly. Thanks for writing. -Ben
@davidmarshall7752
@davidmarshall7752 2 года назад
@@BenBelkin Good suggestion.
@giantfatberg
@giantfatberg 2 года назад
This is art
@trulsdirio
@trulsdirio 2 года назад
I know it does not make a functional difference in this case, but the kick being the same with as the edge makes it look odd to me. I'm just used to the kick being proud a bit that this looks wrong I guess.
@blackhogarth4049
@blackhogarth4049 2 года назад
This is a beautiful knife. I was considering getting one for my dad, who loves traditional slip joints, but the price is just too much. It's a shame.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Hi Ryan, I appreciate your consideration. Nick does not like the price but what he fails to share with you is the fact these cannot be brought to you any cheaper than what is being offered. This is due to the price of manufacture. They are very expensive to produce at this level of quality due to the skilled hand labor involved. I a bringing them to the market at the best price possible. If you want to spend less, you can get an Italian for cheaper but the quality, in my opinion, is disappointing, which is why I went with higher quality and why my knives cost more. Thanks for reading, Ben
@timothyoakhart8860
@timothyoakhart8860 2 года назад
I'm more than likely going to pick up the lanny's clip or dogleg when they come out but honestly Viper knives makes modern traditional knives using m390 with excellent fit and finish and are significantly lower in price. Even JE Made makes excellent modern traditionals cheaper that also use M390. I feel like because there are a lot of people out there who will obviously buy a lot of these I just have trouble wrapping my head around the cost of a slip joint at this price point when there are several others doing the same at a lower price point who have already established a name for themselves in this space.
@charliemorrison1370
@charliemorrison1370 2 года назад
Well I just ordered mine from Framar in the UK and can't wait. Looks to be a great knife for us in the land of the loony laws.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
I think you're going to love it Charlie. Please send me an email and let me know your thoughts! I would love to hear from you.
@charliemorrison1370
@charliemorrison1370 2 года назад
@@BenBelkin I'll be happy to do so. Thanks for bringing these to our shores 👍👍
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
@@charliemorrison1370 Thanks I am looking forward to hearing from you! -Ben
@mancaveedc7596
@mancaveedc7596 2 года назад
Do we know who the mystery OEM is? I assume not Reate. So is it: 1. Bestech 2. Kansept 3. Kube 4. Rike 5. Other Please answer below. Thanks!
@alcw6346
@alcw6346 2 года назад
I'm torn on this, I like the design, the grind and handle. That said, I can get a maniago made knife with a crowned spine for half the cost. I'm only a few miles from the UK dealer, but I think I may wait for a future release to see if they address the issues and then go and handle one first.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Hello sir, I encourage you to handle both side by side and judge them accordingly. The crowned spine and liners on an Italian knife are there, because if those surfaces were squared off, they would not be flat and flush. Those knives have little to no skilled hand labor involved in making them. Parts are stamped en masse, blades are machine ground and tumbled, and the parts are pulled from parts bins for rapid assembly. They also have stop pins instead of a kick resting on a spring, which is a work around for otherwise required high levels of precision. Mine are hafted, or in other words, parts are assembled and then ground as an assembly which mates parts for life and thus cannot be placed into parts bins. When disassembled they are numbered for this reason. This is why you get the exceptional fit and finish and smooth materials transitions. My blades are hollow ground by hand and then finished by hand. My knives are designed with a kick that rests on the spring. So there is a difference in execution that is reflective in the cost. More food for thought: People consider the Italian knives a great deal because off the sticker price, but I would guess that those knives have a 3-5X lift from the manufacturing price to the retail price. Where my lift from manufacturing to retail is substantially less. As far as the issues Nick discusses in the video, I also encourage you to see the knives for yourself and determine if they are issues in your eyes. For me, I don't find the edges sharp or the blade stock too thick, but I am certainly welcoming feedback from everyone on that. Either way, no pressure from me, but seeing as you are so close, I definitely want to encourage you to at least put one in your hands. Andrew & Frank are great guys. -Ben
@alcw6346
@alcw6346 2 года назад
@Beniamin Belkin Hi Ben, thanks for the reply, I have been reading the threads on edge matters and following along for a while. I fully agree the fit and finish on Maniago slipjoints is like rolling a doce and in some cases appalling, I just like crowned spines. I have quite a number of JE Made slipjoints that I love and I can appreciate the work that goes into them and I am assuming yours will be similar yo his calibre team models. I am not concerned by the location of manufacture, or the thickness of the stock to be fair. I've seen the behind the edge thickness, which is very impressive. I have had issues with kicks even on custom slipjoints that have led to the spring dulling the blade, so I tend to prefer the stop pins, but given the level of detail in this design I believe you if you say it wont be an issue. I do find sharp edges bother me though. I have taken a ceramic rod to every Golden made Spyderco I have bought in the last year. I suppose I am also a little unsure on how much I like the gunstock style, I think I may prefer some of the other designs and I am sure I will pick up at least one or two this year. Seems an odd choice to launch on Good Friday, I expect they will be all sold out before I can get into Framar, but I have no idea on stock levels. I will call Frank in the morning and speak to him.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
@@alcw6346 I understand about liking the crowned spines, they really are unique and nice touch. Yes JE made does make a quality product indeed. I am not always in love with his designs since he strays away from traditional aesthetics quite a bit, but that is a matter of my own tastes and biases. No arguing his quality. On the sharp edges, if it makes you feel better, the only person who has said anything about it being sharp is Nick in this review. I don't find them to be sharp, but we all perceive things differently. But I plan on asking the manufacturer to soften that edge for future production runs. Regarding the Friday launch, I did not think about the fact it's Good Friday, so I apologize for any inconvenience. Frank already has the knives, so if you can scoot over there tomorrow you might be able to handle one and get a feel for it. Either way, let me know! You can message me direct on Edge Matters if you would like. Have a great evening! -Ben
@jkstdstang
@jkstdstang 2 года назад
@@BenBelkin this was very insightful to read. Thank you
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
@@jkstdstang my pleasure, thank you for reading!
@TheStreamingEnderman
@TheStreamingEnderman 2 года назад
Giving me Lionsteel Bestman vibes.
@Svolkivar
@Svolkivar 2 года назад
Looks like a variant of the Pena knife. Can't remember the name but I own one that is very similar
@vlkafenryka788
@vlkafenryka788 2 года назад
From what I’ve seen all of their stuff is basically a slipjoint version of Pena’s front flippers don’t mean that in a bad way
@Svolkivar
@Svolkivar 2 года назад
It's difficult to make a knife that doesn't resemble someone else's product I guess. I don't have any slipjoints but I will consider buying one of those
@markp4401
@markp4401 2 года назад
I dig the gunstock handle. I’d buy one and pay more if it were US made.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Thanks for the feedback Mark. I am working on a made in the USA model, but it has been a lot harder to piece together than a Chinese made product. I will not give up the fight though!
@gregs190
@gregs190 2 года назад
I have a lot of knives, many made in the USA, Hinderer, CRK, Spyderco, Benchmade, Zt etc… My Reates aware as good or better than everything I own.
@TheScotsalan
@TheScotsalan 2 года назад
Very nice fit and finish. I live in China, and I think the price could be cos China has pretty much been closed for 2 years. Flights are stupid high price, a months quarintine etc, and lets not start on getting a vias.. 🤬. A factory visit now is gonna cost 10k bucks and up.. and a month in quarantine. I suspect thats where the price comes from.. and the secret factory too perhaps. 👍
@sergemaster
@sergemaster 2 года назад
The design and construction to me is very reminiscent of something produced by Two Suns... The unknown factory "under contract", perhaps?
@lcurtsinger4313
@lcurtsinger4313 2 года назад
Wonder if it's made at the same factory as Rough Ryders
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Hi there, I am guessing not because those are made with stampings and these are made with CNC and Wire EDM. But I do not know that for certain.
@starkparker16
@starkparker16 2 года назад
Sharpshooter! Sharpshooter! Sharpshooter! Oh-oh-oh! -Lemmy
@j.w.greenbaum
@j.w.greenbaum 2 года назад
On the one hand, wow, does this knife speak to me. As in, “well, the pricetag…but I just love it.” On the other, I’ve got my purchases planned for this month (especially since the primary purchase has been put off three times now). If it’s around on May 4 or May 19, I am going to buy one, no question. Honestly? Man, I need to think this over.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Hello Mr. Greenbaum, thank you for your kind words, I really appreciate it. I understand timing can sometimes be difficult. Your enthusiasm alone is enough to keep a guy like me motivated, let alone a purchase. Thanks and have a great day. -Benjamin
@j.w.greenbaum
@j.w.greenbaum 2 года назад
@@BenBelkin Well, having a designer respond to me was something I wasn't exactly expecting! Just for that, I'll go for my primary purchase (which is less expensive than my secondary purchase...odd, I know) and the Sharpshooter.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
@@j.w.greenbaum Mr Greenbaum, it is my pleasure to communicate with you sir. And I am humbled and grateful to make you a customer. If there is anything I can do to provide you with service, please do not hesitate to ask. -Ben
@j.w.greenbaum
@j.w.greenbaum 2 года назад
@@BenBelkin Thank you very much! I can tell the customer service is definitely NOT going to be lacking should the USPS do something questionable. I'll most likely be buying my Sharpshooter Jack from BladeHQ on Monday (combined shipping with the other knife) or Tuesday. Can't imagine they'll all be out of stock then. At least I hope not.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
@@j.w.greenbaum my pleasure sir. I will always do everything in my power to make things right with any customer if a situation arises. You have my word. I cannot make any promises related to the stock status at BladeHQ by Monday however. This is my first production run so the quantities delivered to each dealer are quite limited. No pressure from me, I just wanted to let you know that.
@slick_slicers
@slick_slicers 2 года назад
The obvious comparison must be JE Made. Size, style, execution, action etc., are directly comparable, but price isn’t, and JE has sorted the disassembly/reassembly question. I’m surprised you didn’t bring it up.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
JE made makes a very nice product. But he is the factory so he can always offer them for less than I can. Also his designs stray from traditional partners more than mine do. So it depends on what you want. I am not able to sell mine for any cheaper despite what Nick says. Mine are expensive to produce, there is a standard dealer margin and I make a reasonable margin. I actually make less than the dealers. Thanks for reading. -Ben
@slick_slicers
@slick_slicers 2 года назад
@@BenBelkin thank you very much for replying. My main point was really that Nick rated the JE Lanny’s clip as a ‘gem’ and therefore it would have made a better comparator that a Delica or even the Bexhar (sp?). I have bought three JE’s and reviewed them on my channel, having first seen them on here. The gunstock isn’t a pattern I particularly like, so I didn’t buy one of these, but I expect that if you make anything like a Lanny’s, a sheepsfoot or a Barlow, I’ll be first in line to buy one for review. My reference collection runs to about 250 slip joints, so I’ll have a few decent comparators, including a few JE’s and other modern slip joints.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
@@slick_slicers Thanks for writing me back Slick Slicers. I have several patterns coming down the pike, some of which I believe you will like. I have lots of prototype photography on my website. I really look forward to your feedback given your deep collection. Feel free to reach out to me anytime! In the meanwhile I will subscribe. -Ben
@hehoff33
@hehoff33 2 года назад
I love the aesthetic. But I never carry my traditionals, and I have lost a lot of interest in sending money to China when I can avoid it.
@Nkdc333
@Nkdc333 2 года назад
$275 seems steep. Tactile hit that $200 price point with premium materials and even made in the US. I weirdly have a thing where I feel slip joints should be cheaper, which I’m not sure is really fair. But it is what it is.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Hi Noah, thanks for your feedback. It is a common sentiment that slip joints should be cheap. And there are definitely cheap ones out there. However a well executed slip joint is expensive to produce. This level of fit and finish and execution, made in the USA would cost 500 bucks to the customer. the price I am selling them at is the cheapest I can bring them to you. There is the cost to manufacture, the standard dealer margin and a reasonable margin for me. Thanks for reading. -Ben
@jkstdstang
@jkstdstang 2 года назад
I saw these advertised before the release And thought that is a very nice looking knife although I had a lot of the same reactions as you. Made in China in an undisclosed factory, not sure how I felt about the hardware on it, and when the drop went live I was rather taken by the price especially not being made in the states. Now I own plenty of more expensive folders mostly locking knives and I have no problem paying for quality but My threshold is 150 on a Chinese produced knife bc i can get American made beyond that. I’m sure it’s an awesome slip joint but probably not for me.
@Donnie_JackWolfKnives
@Donnie_JackWolfKnives Год назад
Man that’s a sexy blade..
@sdsrider4life
@sdsrider4life 2 года назад
But is it twice as good as a fox recoil gunstock?
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Hi Derick, it depends on how you want to measure that. If you are referring to strictly materials, then the products are similar. If you are referring to fit and finish, overall execution, blade grind and geometry, and skilled hand labor involved in the craftsmanship, then I believe you will find they are twice as good. But ultimately you would have to decide that. They are almost certainly more than twice as expensive to produce.
@sdsrider4life
@sdsrider4life 2 года назад
@@BenBelkin thanks for your detailed reply! I LOVE this knife and the price is on point is the F&F and blade geometry are on point
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
@@sdsrider4life Thank you sir! I believe you will be satisfied. Everyone who has handled and used one so far certainly are. If you buy one, please let me know your thoughts, you can email or call me anytime. Cheers! -Ben
@clintonlewis1261
@clintonlewis1261 2 года назад
looks good"but i prefer locking pocket knives:and yeah to expensive !
@Youtube-Censorship-Police
@Youtube-Censorship-Police 2 года назад
the 2nd brand "that may not be named by contract" is probably still the first brand "that may not be named by contract", spreading confusion is probably a new part of their new contract, since they've been outed numerous times🤣 sorry but this is reate, grind lines, micarta, overall fit'n'finish..i'm 100% certain! nice knife btw ;)
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Reate made my initial prototypes but I had to switch to a new OEM because they were not able to meet required deadlines. You can see the difference between the Reate prototypes on my website versus the Sharpshooter Jack on my website which is from the new manufacturer. So the Sharpshooter and all the forthcoming production models are not made by Reate I can 100% assure you.
@Youtube-Censorship-Police
@Youtube-Censorship-Police 2 года назад
@@BenBelkin ah okay, thanks for clarification. really wondering who made these..i mean there are not too many chinese knife makers that can keep up with reate. rike comes to my mind, but they don't have that kind of contract, neither does we knife. in the end i don't care as long as the knife is made well, which is obviously the case. are you planning to send a few of these to european dealers in the near future? (or even better; swiss dealers?😁) i'd love to get one, but i'm not really crazy about paying for shipping + high import fees😅 great knife btw, i love modern traditionals with a good design!
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
@@RU-vid-Censorship-Police Hi there, thanks for writing me back! These are going to Knives & Tools in Netherlands and Tools for Gents in Germany. I do have a Swiss dealer who reached out to me, I need to follow up with him in a few months when I start bringing on new dealers. If you buy one, let me know what you think of it, you can email me at any time as I would love to hear from you. -Ben
@Texze
@Texze 2 года назад
Looks nice, but would have preferred a Lannys Clip model. I’ll get one, if I can get over the made in China thing. For the designer, why not bring the blade steel down to 154CM or a high carbon, use nickel instead of titanium, and produce in the USA for $250?
@davethebarber62920
@davethebarber62920 2 года назад
Unnamed factory= "No, I cannot say that this knife was made by the Uighur slaves or with forced child labor. However I also cannot say with certainty that it was not". Why all the secrecy???
@ds1468
@ds1468 2 года назад
the fit and finish on these scream J.E. Made out of china.. they are the reate of slip joints.. quality shows
@donkeydave6103
@donkeydave6103 Год назад
Do all you Tube reviewers get these knives free .seems like it .
@NickShabazz
@NickShabazz Год назад
Lol, after this review, I'm sure as heck 'off the list'.
@alexelshof6653
@alexelshof6653 2 года назад
Love the look and design. Cant justify the price. Can get an american made slip from case for around 70 bucks
@dr.stevenpennym.d.3241
@dr.stevenpennym.d.3241 2 года назад
Appreciate your opinion. But everything is subjective. Great video thank you.
@alpine1600s
@alpine1600s 2 года назад
All positive for design etc. just not a titanium fan. It's a completely aesthetic choice, and doesn't improve the common utility of knives at all.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Alpine, it makes the knife substantially lighter, which is noticeable on a knife of this size. Thank you for your feedback.
@carlstanland5333
@carlstanland5333 2 года назад
I’m going to guess Reate made.
@Grayfizzle
@Grayfizzle Год назад
Hell I didn't even know they were concealing the factory's name that's because it's some guy and a Chinese garage what a bummer man
@FinC1_
@FinC1_ 2 года назад
It's definitely expensive for the price considering you can get lionsteel knives for $150 made in Italy or a $100 TwoSun from China
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Hi FC, thank you for sharing your thoughts. Here is some information for you to consider: The Sub $200 Italian Knives are at a much different level of fit and finish than mine. For example, on the Italian Knives: many of the parts are stamped, blades are machine ground flat and tumbled, spring and liners are crowned to hide the fact nothing would be seamless if they were squared off, blade spring and spine meet at a chamfer to hide the fact they don't line up properly, blade stops on a stop pin, and the fit and finish isn't exactly tight. Whereas, mine have: parts made to exacting tolerances on CNC and Wire EDM as opposed to stamping, blades are hollow ground by hand, belt finish is applied by hand, all transitions are seamless with a flat and flush back spring in all 3 positions (because knives are assembled and then ground together by skilled labor as an assembly to achieve this fit. This also mates the parts for life, which precludes parts being thrown into parts bins for use in rapid assembly) and lastly, the knives have a kick that rests on the spring instead of a stop pin, something that requires a high level of precision to pull off. I say all of this because, if you really look at the details, you may understand why the knives I am selling cost substantially more to produce than the Italian knives. And that price to manufacture is thus reflected in the sales price. As far as the $100 TwoSun from China, these are different in almost every conceivable way when you really look at them. So ultimately you have to decide what you value: If you want performance for the least amount possible, perhaps I am not the brand for you. If you want custom knife level of hand fit and finish with an insane hollow grind, this is what I have to offer. Thank you for reading. -Ben
@FinC1_
@FinC1_ 2 года назад
@@BenBelkin interesting points but many are preferential. Tumbled, satin, mirror, whatever, it's purely preferential to the buyer, there's no "correct" way to finish a blade. Chamfers allow a greater deal of tolerance, I agree, they also make knives more comfortable to hold and provide a little texture to grip onto. There's good and bad things about it. As for kicker vs stop pins, does the kicker stop you from squeezing the blade into the spring while closed? For this reason, I love stop pins, it completely negates that and they still require a good level of precision. It's a nice knife but not for me, at least not currently. I look forward to seeing more designs, improvements and hopefully more openness about the manufacturing and I sincerely wish you the best of luck.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
@@FinC1_ Hi FC, I agree finish is preferential and there is no correct way to finish a knife. But it is also true that some finishes cost more than others, and finish relates directly to the price. I see why you like the Chamfers, that makes sense to me. And you are correct, a kick on a spring does not stop the blade from striking the spring if you squeeze it when it's closed. I have never had a problem there because I don't squeeze my knives when they are closed, but I do see how the stop pin provides that level of security. I am open about the fact the knives are made in China. To share more information would require me to breach an agreement and that is not something I am willing to do, thank you for understanding. I appreciate the well wishes very much and thanks again for the dialogue, I do appreciate it. -Ben
@Grayfizzle
@Grayfizzle Год назад
The guy who made this company is actually a genuine guy I seen him on a bhq video and gained a lot of respect for him. BUT I can't get past the made in China aspect. I mean imagine if it was stamped made in China, it's just such a turnoff so I had to pass on this, I'm not paying microtech prices for a made in China blade
@budg8522
@budg8522 2 года назад
Having held these knives in hand…and as an avid GEC user and collector… I can attest that Ben is probably the finest modern slip joint designer/advocate in America. For me the price, secrecy of manufacturer, thickness of blade stock all take a back seat to the fact that this is a damned good first effort and light years superior in design and quality control then any of the modern slip joints coming from Italy, other Chinese companies, or even the efforts thus far from ZT or Benchmade. Again that’s just an opinion…or a Beau would say…just a thought.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Thank you Bud! I know you're going to love owning them! The quality will speak for itself. -Ben
@VOIDVIDS
@VOIDVIDS 2 года назад
I think calling it not take apartable and a downside is a bit of a misnomer. Jack Wolf is really more just trying to give a big serious warning to how much WORK doing that will be rather than actually forbidding it. I can only imagine the amount of knives they would get for warranty service if they didn't give that very stern warning. This is the same for basically ANY slip joint so pointing it out a a negative for JACK WOLF is kinda like saying that knives with pocket clips will EVENTUALLY wear away at your pants pockets...a downside. At least Jack Wolf used torx and didn't pin the scales. Good point tho on the small fit and finish details at that price they need to be a bit more curated
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
You are correct, I just don't want people to have unnecessary problems! I appreciate the feedback, thank you.
@Zaque-TV
@Zaque-TV 2 года назад
I'm good on this one LMAO
@Terjay
@Terjay 2 года назад
The only thing that I like is the handle. Otherwise it's kinda boring and too expensive.
@Nick_The_Knife
@Nick_The_Knife 2 года назад
This is a price point where you can get semi-custom level, USA made knives in similar materials. Labor is the biggest cost savings with Chinese production. Probably something close to 5:1 versus American made. Materials are certainly cheaper as well if they use Chinese domestic for everything but blade steel. I can't see the value in a $275 Chinese, well made slipjoint from a brand new label. I don't see intricate parts that might rack up machining time or highly detailed milling. These have fewer moving parts than a locking knife, and shouldn't be much harder to make. The brand has certainly made a big effort to get their name out there ahead of the release. Again, these might be nice knives, but I can't see the value there. If I am spending that kind of money, I'd rather support an American shop.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Hi Nick, I would like to provide you some information to consider. These knives are costly to produce due to the skilled hand labor involved in making them. Also, the parts involved are machined to exacting tolerances, akin to many of the high end modern folders you are used to owning that retail for the same price. I know for a fact mine cost as much or more than many of those to produce. It may look simple to you, but slip joints are deceptively complicated to get right and there are critical tolerances and surfaces that have to be done correctly or problems will occur throughout. Truthfully, these are "semi custom" knives. The blades are ground by hand. At one point during production, the knives are assembled and then ground together as an assembly, by hand by a skilled craftsman, in order to produce the seamless materials transitions found throughout. This causes the need for all the parts to be numbered and tracked together during the balance of the manufacturing, like a custom knife would be. These parts cannot be pulled from parts bins like typical locking modern folder parts can. After the cost to produce the knives, there is a standard margin for the dealer and an even smaller margin for myself. There is no price gouging, there is no wiggle room. I am bringing the community these at the best price possible. When examined, you will see that these knives compare favorably to custom slip joints that cost over $500. I know because I own a lot of them, from some of the best masters around. An American made slip joint with lesser specifications from a major manufacturer would easily cost over $450 to the customer. If you don't see the value here, well that is a personal choice. But it should be understood that the value, as far as the cost to produce versus the cost to the customer, is absolutely there. All the major US Brands have a 5x lift on their products before they get to you. I am nowhere even close to that. If there is an American shop you want to support that is making slip joints at this level of quality, please let me know what it is. I don't think a comparable product exists, regardless of country of origin. Thanks for reading - Ben
@user-ig6nu4oo5p
@user-ig6nu4oo5p 2 года назад
Maybe i'm an old fashion guy but i remember a time when a new company began making something, they will first prove them selves and the quality of the product they making before charging primium $ for it! But maybe it's just me 🤔
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Sir, there is no premium being charged here. There is the cost to manufacture, the dealer margin, and a reasonable margin for me. I make less than the dealers on each unit. -Ben
@user-ig6nu4oo5p
@user-ig6nu4oo5p 2 года назад
@@BenBelkin let me put it this way, as a consumer i look at this knife and i think: is this 275$ ( before shipping and custom fees) made in china knife,really that much better than my pm3 or a an american made gec or even a 5$ oppinel?! I have a china made cadisen watch which is basicaly a seiko, it has a seiko movement inside that is better than what seiko uses on some of their watches, it has a better crystal and its all around a much better watch so how come its half the price of the most basic seiko 5?! Its called brand recognition. Your product might be very good and of a good quality is still a cadisen but you are asking seiko money for it. Now im only one guy and its only my personal oppinion and it is what it is so dont worry about it. It seems to me that people love the knife , you do have a good product and i really wish you all the best.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Thanks for writing me back. I appreciate it. As far as an items worth as compared to something else, that is for you to decide. But what I can say with certainty is that your analogy of Cadisen vs Seiko is not accurate. My knives are not Cadisen quality for a Seiko price. And there is no money built into the purchase price for brand recognition. Absolutely none. These knives are expensive to produce, and there is a small profit margin for me and the dealer. That's it, no premium. You are getting excellent quality manufacturing at fair and reasonable price. It's actually the opposite on your SpyderCo's. The prices of those knives are lifted 5X over from the cost to manufacture to the cost to purchase. So you are actually paying a lot of money to them for Brand Recognition, and paying a lot of money for an inexpensive-to-produce knife. Just some food for thought. Thank you again for the well wishes and I appreciate your time in reading this. Ben
@user-ig6nu4oo5p
@user-ig6nu4oo5p 2 года назад
@@BenBelkin I think my analogy was very accurate but i guess will agree to disagree on that one 😉 I must say however that you taking the time to answer in person to each comment even the not so possitive ones like mine is really impresive 👍👍👍
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Not a problem Sir. I always appreciate a civil conversation. People don't always have to agree with each other, but we can always learn from each other and I find it pays to have mutual respect and admiration. have a great night, or is it morning if you are in Israel?
@chanabhaji2726
@chanabhaji2726 Год назад
Yeah J.e made are a better option.
@eyeofthetiger4184
@eyeofthetiger4184 2 года назад
G'day Nick, not sure why slippies have a reason for being in this day and age; kinda like a car with dodgy brakes..............it might stop. Other than that, nice design. Cheers Duke.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Hi Duke, the reasons are they cut great and people enjoy carrying and owning them. Not every knife NEEDS to lock; for several hundred years most pocket knives did not. But I would say cars need quality brakes. Cheers. -Ben
@eyeofthetiger4184
@eyeofthetiger4184 2 года назад
@@BenBelkin G'day Ben, thanks for the reply mate. Ok, for a couple a hundred years that's all there was. I feel that you may well only go into particular repetitive tasks just bearing down, so not a prob, but if that's what you carry and need to do something contrary to initial design then you may well "slip" up and have a problem. Personally, I've been very close a couple of times, albeit with small string cutters. I certainly can understand from a collectors POV, but man in all round practice ................risky business IMO.
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
@@eyeofthetiger4184 I understand what you mean there bud. I have not had the problem but I can see how it could happen. Take care!
@thecarproconnoisseur5412
@thecarproconnoisseur5412 Год назад
I feel like everyone is just doing what Peña started..I mean like they don’t even use different materials or colors 😂🤣
@pauljosephbuggle3722
@pauljosephbuggle3722 2 года назад
Sorry, the nice dudes and all that malarkey don't add up to that price. You'll get those materials from a TwoSun easily. In the interest of being fair, be fair. This is mostly marketing.
@MrParticular-pu7qh
@MrParticular-pu7qh 2 года назад
It's a beautiful Knife I'm going to pass on this one They should spend less time on cartoons And pay attention to more details
@jbeers1234
@jbeers1234 2 года назад
I have 2 Quietcarry’s, so that’s what I’ll expect from a premium Chinese knife. Yeah, this ain’t it…
@johnbowen5336
@johnbowen5336 2 года назад
That "as ground" finish is the way slipjoints ought to be. "Hand Rubbed" is for overly pretentious limp wristed swishes who have never worked an honest day in their entire lives.
@user-ms5gt1kd6p
@user-ms5gt1kd6p 2 года назад
I think it may hurt the company that it looks like a $120-140 slipjoint with a $50 blade regrind and a can of swag they want an extra $100 for. Just my opinion but hey, there's people out there that will pay it. Maybe it's one you just have to see in-person.
@kevola5739
@kevola5739 2 года назад
The materials, design, and look are spot on. The lack of full disclosure, lack of disassembly, and lack of value for the price is not the way to introduce your product to market. Are those torx screws shallow? Really, for $300. Dis is far from gem class if you ask my wallet.
@jamesd4923
@jamesd4923 2 года назад
You had me till the price ridiculous keep it
@alpine1600s
@alpine1600s 2 года назад
Pokémon still has value, Beanie Babies not so much.🤣
@bladecollector7
@bladecollector7 2 года назад
China for $275 ouch
@michaelboyd2629
@michaelboyd2629 2 года назад
Looks like an AG Russell
@rottenapple6109
@rottenapple6109 2 года назад
300.00!! Good God.
@paulhanley5811
@paulhanley5811 2 года назад
Nah
@donwendling7800
@donwendling7800 2 года назад
i Seriously, don't understand why Ben didn't have it made in the USA ( especially at $300) ...Shame on you Ben!
@BenBelkin
@BenBelkin 2 года назад
Don, there is no place in the USA to have this knife made to these specifications, let alone for a price of $300. Even if such an OEM manufacturer existed, this knife would cost over $450 retail. I am working on a Made in the USA project but I am having to piece meal it together from multiple suppliers and I still don't know if it will be economically feasible. -Ben
@bladecollector7
@bladecollector7 2 года назад
Way to overpriced 😂
@stevesinclair4159
@stevesinclair4159 Год назад
Jack Wolf knives are severely overpriced at $300, there is no justification for the exorbitant price. Why buy a plain looking slip joint for $300 when you can buy a Victorinox Spartan for $30? Victorinox knives are made in Switzerland one of the most expensive countries to live in & they make a quality product & sell it at a budget price so the pathetic excuse that the Wolf knife sells for $300 because its made in the USA is pure B/S
@NickShabazz
@NickShabazz Год назад
Just to be clear, these are not made in the USA. They're not clear about where they're made (so we should likely assume China), but it's certainly not in the US.
@stevesinclair4159
@stevesinclair4159 Год назад
@@NickShabazz if that is correct the price of the Wolf knife is outrageous, SMKW sells a whole load of made in China Rough Ryders at $10 and they are of reasonable quality
@John-oz1do
@John-oz1do 2 года назад
Its too pricey!
@beaurex4756
@beaurex4756 2 года назад
$300 for a Chinese slip-joint? Seriously? Has anyone tested the blade to verify that it's actually m390?
@deadpoollee9497
@deadpoollee9497 Год назад
Like the look but when I seen made in China ruined it for me. That price an mystery China company is a no go
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