The Joyo Preamp House! (Direct Vid) - Presented by AJL music! 

Really appreciate that! Thank you!

Thank you!

Almost got one of those ODs back in the day. Went for an Angry Charlie instead. Wound up on a PettyJohn Gold

Appreciate that Thank you!

Thanks so much! Glad I could help!

The American sound? Yea I have one of those. Solid! Thinking about making a comparison vid of that to this things Fender sounds.

@@aaronjlivecchi yeah solid good description. Pedal board to JOYO..to soundcard. Besides DI recording they are brilliant for a perfect home stereo volume for practice.

@@aaronjlivecchi That would be very useful. Great video for yet another pedal that I absolutely don't need but... and their new reverb pedal, same problem! Keep up the great work :)

Haha The eternal struggle! thank you!

You’re welcome!

You could. The Preamp House does use a stock IR. But you can bypass that and the Cab sim

Awesome! I've got the cab box and love it. I guess this can be used for an "ampless" rig?

@@felipeguerrero2409 100% yes indeed. That is how I use it, completely ampless rig, just the preamp house and the cab box, and it's like a magical transformation lol

@@DroneShotFPV Sweet!! I use the American Sound going into the cab box and record with it. Love Joyo. Thanks so much for your response!

@@DroneShotFPV Can you share how you set up a wet dry wet rig?

@@paolo-1283 Absolutely, the best way to do it, like I did anyway, involves an ABY Switcher. A nice cheap switcher is the Donner Path seeker ABY switcher, but I just tried to find it and couldn't locate one easily. There are MOOER options on Amazon that are inexpensive, but ultimately what you want is a reliable ABY switcher. The "simple" explanation is you want a dry rig with no FX and then one path with reverb , delay, etc on it, then one channel has "liquid" FX and the other just dry guitar signal (whether that is clean on distorted, whatever your preference). So for the rig I used a lot I ran my guitar chain as follows: Tuner, Volume Pedal, WAH Pedal, OverDrive's etc, Donner Path Seeker ABY switch. From the ABY switch channel A went to my DSM Simplifier as a mono signal, then into my audio interface or FOH at church. Channel B went into my Hotone Patch Kommander FX switcher which was setup for various FX combos, then that went into the FX loop of my JOYO Preamp house, then into my JOYO CAB BOX, and out to FOH or Audio interface. This way my left channel was "wet" and right channel was dry, then we could blend them to taste to achieve whatever cool and spacious sounds we wanted.

Appreciate the kind words a ton! Thank you! 🙌🏽 I agree! It’s fantastic. I stuck it at the end of my board running it loud and clean. Been having such great results hitting it with drives.

@@aaronjlivecchi cranking the clean channel of the EVH 3 has become a guilty pleasure actually, its gotta be the dirtiest clean channel I've ever heard lol. Only having one cabsim hasn't been an issue either, as the one they provide you with is crazy good. Look forward to hearing more!

Yes! I was surprised how dirty it’s clean channel gets. And how good it sounds! Honestly if they found a way to charge a pinch more and make it capable of two amps at once. It’d be a game changer.

@@aaronjlivecchi I'm thinking of adding a Nu-X Solid Studio, as a way to run it stereo. That way I can use the power amp simulation and a different IR, to give the other channel a slightly different character. I have a feeling I'm going to spend a lot of money again this year lol.

Glad to see you enjoy Aaron's videos as much as I do! You guys are both amazing! I am about to upload 2 videos now that I have some down time finally, and one is my full review of this and in depth, as well as my new wet dry wet rig with this and the DSM & Humboldt Simplifier, which is another beast as well!

So think of the A/B as presets. You can set a clean preset and dirty preset. That is what the pedal will default to when you stomp the button. You can cycle through amps and change whatever you want but if you click the pedal again, it will take you back to whatever parameters you've saved, and NOT to what the dials currently display.

Yea surprisingly Super pretty cleans

For sure they have

I hold on to my RP155s because the have efx as well (mainly reverb) but I would like them to have XLR outs as well ;-)

I still have my GNX 3. It doesn’t work anymore, but I’ve had it since day 1, and just can’t part from it

I still have my GNX 3. It doesn’t work anymore, but I’ve had it since day 1, and just can’t part from it

Yeah I use an IR loader (NUX Solid Studio, totally decent) and with those IRs, power amp and mic sim it rips!!

Yes

No you don’t need a preamp for the headphones. You just need to power this. With like a power source or a daisy chain

@@aaronjlivecchi Thanks for the fast response and info

This is a great headphone amp. All you need to get started, but you do have to buy a power supply, because it does not take batteries or come with a wall wart.

This takes pedals really well. I have a vid with an SD1 going into the front. You can check that out. I’d imagine it’d sound great. It does in fact use IR technology btw. Just a fixed stock one.

I’d have to get one. Maybe In the future. To my understanding, The cab box is cabs only correct? No specific preamp emulations such as vox, fender, etc?

@@aaronjlivecchi Check it out. It's got a power amp modeling section (with a menu of tube options), cab IRs, a selection of mics and some rudimentary mic positioning options. Josh at JHS just released a video covering the entire R series that has a surprise ending (hint 'You've been soaking in it the whole time')

That is how I use this pedal personally, straight into a CAB BOX, Aaron, yes, the Cab box is strictly cabs and IR loading. But it also has a Power Amp SIM in it as well, with EL84, EL34, 6v6 and 6L6 tubes, and an EQ section. (The cab box is the thing I kept telling you about a couple times before that I use)

@@DroneShotFPV Have you done any direct into Cab Box recording with pedals besides the Preamp House? Curious to know if folks have had good 'amp-like' results using other pedals this way. I think Josh at JHS may even be going direct in using only the cab box at the end of his recent video on the R series. From what I've seen so far, the simplicity of the interface appeals to me. And that preamp section seems like an advantage over just cab IRs.

@@mattwright9596 Yes, I have actually used it in many ways, 1 , which is the current setup for me, and that is the Preamp house direct into it, and then I "stereo" out (2 mono's out of course lol, so FAUX stereo maybe? :-) ) by going from the XLR out of the CAB BOX, and the 1/4" out as well. I have also used it to run a JOYO BantAmp METEOR Amplifier, from it's FX Loop out, into the Cab Box, and then CAB B OX to my DI / Mixer. I have setup the CAB BOX and literally just put the end of my signal chain into the input of the CAB BOX, then EQ'd and loaded IR's to suit the sound I wanted, and ran just OD / Distortion pedals, Reverb, Delay, etc, straight into it, and I am happy to say that all ways worked great! Personally, while the built in IR's / cab models (I think they use a mix of algorithm and their own IR's for their pre-built models) for the CAB BOX are decent, nothing beats the IR's you currently use / like (if you have any) , because they are usually designed to fit a specific taste. If you don't have many IR's, I would be glad to share what I do have, that work wonders with the CAB BOX, if you wanted to get one to try out. Personally I recommend getting a CAB box, so much that I would almost put up a guarantee that if you didn't love it, I would buy it from you! lol

In my personal opinion, yes, the pre-amp house would be an upgrade to that specific Joyo series

Doesn’t go directly into a cab. Doesn’t replace amp head.

I've had this 2 days and honestly I'm ready to send it back. I wanted it to replace an amp live but the clean tones are too frigging bright. The xlr out or the regular out is no better. Cab sim on or off, no help. Tried into amp return, blah no better. Quilter Tone block return and my speaker cabs, still bad. The eq control just isn't enough. Honestly my old Boss GP20 amp factory is better. Likewise just a Boss EQ did better. Not impressed at all.

Don’t recall. Don’t believe the gain was fender saved

I’ve been really liking it as a clean amp at the end of my pedalboard to hit the front end with drives. Sounds and feels good to play. So far only good things from this end!

None I’ve noticed

It takes pedals pretty well. I like using it already slightly broken up. Direct stuff like this works better as a first stage imo. I tend to notice compression with direct gear.

Cheers man, so would would hour next stage be in recording

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@@aaronjlivecchi sorry I didn’t make much sense there, for recording a bit quieter with having kids, would you say this or the joyo cab box would be better for using my pedal board, i see you have experience with both, cheers

Personally I like the cab box. Better pedal platform. Unless you wanna run the “amp” dirty.

Never played the Hotone.

@@aaronjlivecchi Lol I ended up with both! The Hotone has power amp and mic sim. It's excellent BUT I think the Joyo beats it on a couple of settings. The Orange, Engl and Friedman are excellent preamp models. The Joyo has a much better cab sim.

Tbh I’m not sure. The cab sim is always on in the headphones jack. I’d imagine it works with the outs. If the cab sim is off in the outs, it’s off there. Not fully sure tho. I’d reach out to Joyo

Can any of the clean channels do edge of break-up tones?

The EVH one comes to mind off hand.

This is meant to be like a faux amp. So on your board as your “amp” or use it like a pedal.

You could use it into the effects return as a replacement Preamp but yes, it's a DI solution pedal or just a pedal!

To my understanding. It doesn’t seem so. But someone else commented here and said that another youtuber said you could. So not sure.

Does the ground lift really help in removing hissing sounds when recording direct?

Short answer is yes. Longer answer is that you can save one clean channel setting and one dirty channel setting, and switch between the two. So, you can save the clean fender and the dirty lonestar. Longest answer is that you can have a third setting, being the one you are tweaking before you hit either footswitch for either saved channel. After that, you will have to bend over and use your fingers to change settings. It's awesome, by the way. This is a great demo.

This is much better than the AS

@@aaronjlivecchi I have Joyo Uzi, Boss SD-1, a cheap analog delay (want to buy an Aquarius), Chorus and Reverb. I wonder If I should go Joyo Preamp House, or Mooer Preamp Live (which I heard is very prone to die randomly)

I’ve used the Preamp House live on a few occasions and have had no issues

Guess not 🤷🏽‍♂️

Nobody simulates that one. Because it’s so neutral. (Except the chorus of course)

I’m asking because I was going to buy a Cab for it. Wanted to know if it will still work

No. It’s a pedal only. Cab sim or a pedal if you toggle the sim off. It’s not a tube head to my understanding.

There are no tubes in this. To get the proper sound from this pedal, you would need a powered PA speaker, or a power amp and speaker cabinet. You could also connect the 1/4-inch output of this pedal into the effects loop Return of any amp equipped with an effects loop.

@@tazshreds222, I am using my Joyo Preamp House together with the NUX Mini Studio as IR loader on its effects loop so I can still utilize the XLR out going to the mixer or audio interface.

@@NephiBitor i was thinking of the exact thing. How is the sound on this setup?

Well it’s a half hour with just one type of guitar. So imagine doing 3 or 4 while being equally as thorough.

Yeah. He's got the treble cranked most of the time. Way higher than I would set it. To me, almost all of the amp sims sound very samey in this demo. Minor differences only. It convinced me to not buy it.

I’ve had zero issues with mine. No post work has been done to alter the sound in any way. No eq. Compression. Etc. what you hear is what I hear. Sorry you had a bad experience. But my vid didn’t cause it. Hope the next gear you get works out better for you

You can save your settings on the current channel by pressing and holding the current channel's footswitch. After the fast blinks of the led light your settings are saved.

@@NephiBitor It's actually different than any of us think / thought. I talked to the creator of this idea, who worked with JOYO to create it. So, to summarize here FIRST before reading my long explanation, you do NOT have 9 save slots "per" Clean and 9 per dirty, you have a total of 2 save slots, period. 1 clean, 1 dirty. So each "new save" of a setting is your one and only until setting up a new one, which overwrites the previous. He said that the clean "save" and the dirty "save" are essentially like 2 banks, which we all knew.. THe problem is, if you save your settings while on the VOX AC30 preamp choice, get it dialed in, etc, when you switch to another preset, there are 2 things that happen based on how you make your selection. If you just go to the next amp, you will still be playing the "saved" settings and amp you just used on the VOX side.. In order to switch from this, you need to select clean channel, dirt channel, back to clean, then new amp model. But here is the other catch, and this is if I understood him correctly. You can't save presets for EACH amp, and come back to them. When y ou create a sound and you like it, then save it, that is your sound. When you select another amp model, and save it's settings, those are now the defaults. If you go back to your PREVIOUS amp model, the settings are wiped and set back to factory default requiring you to set the settings again.

I bought it and it's great. Exactly like this video. Maybe you got a manufacturing defect, but the design is very good. Every factory releases a few defective products, even super-expensive products with excellent quality control. This is a budget pedal, so some allowance must be given for the consumer being the last inspector of quality control.