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Rachel breaks up with Lee: Yes, girl, you definitely deserve someone who is less clingy. They get back together after five minutes of screentime: So much for character development! 🙄
@@alexsheffield528 Lee already has a lot of manipulation in his life, which are all commited by himself so it's best if he gets a taste of his own medicine.
And what made this the best (albeit still very bad) of the worst, so just when you thought this would be one of the many worst films of 2020… it got (barely) better.
I gotta be honest, I was really surprised at the fact that Noah didn't attack Marco after Marco punched him, like he usually would do. It actually made me go "Wait, did he just get character development?" Like even though it may have been by complete accident on the writer's part, it actually made me feel something for a character from The Kissing Booth. It seems that Noah is the one that got the most character development and actually grew as a person. That's a bigger twist than Shyamalan could've ever cooked up!
Idk, he was pretty childish about the whole Marco thing since the beginning. I understand where his insecurities come from but that stuff's on him really. I wish they hadn't made Marco go back for Elle, I liked him being over her :/
I like that Noah both learned to control his violent outbursts AND was the one who broke up with Elle. It’s surprising that he seemed to get the most character development.
@@lastquarter3992 Elle Kissed Marco on TV infront of him. And knows he has feelings for her and still forced him in everything. I totally get Noah Plus Elle had the nerve to be jealous of Chloe
As an aspiring screenwriter who’s spent hours into the dead of night trying to construct a well paced plot, decent characterization, and sharp dialogue, seeing shit like this makes me wonder why I even bother. Clearly crap sells.
Tell that to aspiring animators that can’t get jobs because their stuff doesn’t rip off Disney enough (or they simply don’t have any…inside connections…).
Protip, slap some Jezus on it and you can make 3 mil out of 3 grand from any first draft screenplay. The target audience for this kind of vapid crap doesn't want deep meaningful story development, they want stupid melodrama and their biases confirmed.
My biggest question throughout the movie was why did Elle feel like she had to include Marco in her bucket list activities? Knowing what happened between them and Noah being understandably unhappy that his girlfriend is still hanging around the person she cheated on him with at the dance competition. It's so annoying that half of the problems Elle faces in these movies are problems she started in the first place.
Throughout the whole movie I was wondering how she could be so comfortable around Marco and even wanna be friends while he’s so obviously still flirting with her, like what the hell 💀
@@tiepzz326 Oh, that's simple. Because she's a self-absorbed toxic dumpsterfire of a human who has zero regard for others. She doesn't care how much she hurts Noah by having the guy she cheated with on him around and being so lovey-dovey with him, she doesn't care that she strings along Marco even though she doesn't want him. Heck, she may have strung him along in case Noah breaks up so she has some other man-meat to ride because that seems all she seems to care about. In general, no clue why "comedy" and especially "rom-com" movies always need to have the biggest wastes of human life as protagonists. If you're gonna have such people, make a joke out of it like in Anchorman, at least.
I feel like people don't understand that it is realistic to willfully cause all your own problems for no reason. Most people are stupid, addicted to drama, averse to substance, and weak.
The “getting mad at your parents because they got remarried” trope only works when you’re a child, what 18 year old gets that outwardly pissy about their new stepparent??
And the stepmother acts nice to her. Yeah she'd still be a bit uncomfortable and weird, but she should respect her still. Yet she says she's "annoying" and that she is just bad for other reasons?
There's definitely a period of awkwardness, though. In my case, it's been 20 years and my relationship with my stepfather is still very "round peg, square hole".
I think it really depends on how your family was split in the first place. In her case, she may have just trouble to think that her dad can "replace" her mom. It's still not totally understadable to me but I'm not the one to judge. I'm 21 and can't accept my own step mom
Just because you're good at playing video game and enjoy playing them doesn't mean video game design is the career for you. It frustrates me that whenever someone likes video games, "make games yourself" is always the next step. No. Its not. It can be, but its not always. There are plenty of people who design games that aren't super into playing them and plenty of people who play games that would have absolutely no fun designing them. And how good or bad you are at games has no correlation to that.
It's good to enjoy games and understand what makes a game fun in the design department, but ye, enjoy games =/= can design games. Hell, I'm sure if you ask me to design a Silent Hill-flavoured puzzle game I'll probably bumble around like a refrigerated bee, while asking me to create animations for a hack-and-slash would probably be an alright, if not kinda boring and frustrating (because I can't rig for shit), experience.
I think the correlation should be becoming a game tester instead but most old boomers who make those movies: 1. Don't know it's a job 2. Believe it's useless/skilless etc
It's official. Elle's dad is the best character. Because he actually tells Elle she's full of shit. Message to everyone: YOUR PARENTS ARE ALLOWED TO REMARRY AFTER THEIR SPOUSE DIES OR LEAVES OR WHATEVER AND YOU ARE SELFISH FOR THINKING THEY AREN'T! Editing because people obviously don't get it: I'm talking about parents who actually find a new love of their life and isn't forcing it on you. I'm not talking about abusive relationships or trying to replace their former spouse. I'm saying parents are allowed to be happy again after a tragic event and it's selfish of kids to not make an attempt or refuse to be happy for their parent.
I still feel that's the better cliche than "come on Dad, mom's been dead for half a year, get over it and start dating again!" that some other movies have done. Just kinda weird to hear the kids try to pimp out their dad, while also showing that they got over the death of their mother far easier, which is also messed up.
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@@GBDupree Right away I thought of American Pie: Reunion xD I guess the different clichés appear in different genres, this one is more teen drama than comedy, most American Pie movies are mostly just comedy
Can’t say he’s the best character when we’ve never seen the build up to it at all. The mothers death had zero impact on anything so it wasn’t earned at all
The Kissing Booth Story of toxic relationships and friendships. With the most unbearable characters in romance that it makes Twilight characters look good. Except anyone who isn't the main trio is amazing and man do I feel bad for all of them with how they are treated by the main trio.
Man I can't wait for a good 15 years from now when we get "Kissing Booth: New Rules" starring the middle aged cast and a bunch of kids that just so happen to create the same dynamic from the first film
@@bentarbbronze6048 I'm going to be honest with you, that is way too nuanced for this content, my bet is the old characters would be there to sell nostalgia, and occasionally say things like "remember when we were their age?" And then proceed to let their kids be toxic anyways.
That clip with her dad actually made me really sad. This whole time, her poor dad has been suffering in silence and then his asshole daughter won't even allow him one ounce of happiness. How horrible.
You know, when an aggressive, violent and overly jealous guy is the least unlikeable of the main 3 characters, it's a sign that you did something really, really, REALLY wrong. These movies deserve to burn in cinema hell.
You know who else is “aggressive, violent and overly jealous”, like Noah (or even more so)? Mason Greyback (Wizards of Waverly Place). Alex really deserved better than this
The fact he ended up as the most likable out of the three despite being a borderline psycho in the first one says oodles about what a piece of shit the other two were and stayed.
@@youtube-kit9450 his character completely did a 180 in the 2nd one and he became *so* much better. Then I saw how many die-hard 14 year old fans were glamorising Elle cheating on him and I had to just stop there lmao
@@truthseeker9249 I think there's a few nuanced situations where cheating isn't *that* bad, or bad at all tbh, but obviously Joey's character was just brazenly in the wrong lol
@@hiddenleafdrip3869 yeah I agree. But if a relationship really is that bad then you should get out of it. The only reason it would be bad enough to cheat is if it's abusive in any way sexually physically or emotionally. But again if it's like that you should get out anyway. Don't waste your time cheating because what if your abusive partner finds out. No that is no excuse but think about it. Don't give your abusive partner a chance to hurt you again. Just run. And yes I speak from experience.
‘i am not okay with this’ was so good, ended on the worst cliffhanger, and then netflix refused to reshoot and recut the last episode so it could have ended the way it deserved. makes me so upset, i really hope they’re planning to do more some day :(
How was it supposed to end vs how it ended in the finale? The finake had the head explosion, her running away, and another powered-being approaching her to imply that she's not alone.
@@twentyonetortas5921 i meant bc it’s based on a book series and this was only the first book so we just got a massive cliffhanger. if everyone else was cool w the ending then that’s great! i just felt unsatisfied and then disappointment when i learned that was all of the show there was
If there is a Kissing booth 4, I can already predict the WHOLE plot. Elle&Noah and Lee&Rachel would have kids same with Marco and Chloe even though they never talked to each other. The gay couple would probably also adopt twins which are just the gay and lesbian stereotypes. Then,the plot would be the exact same as the first movie but worse plus a bad lesbian romance and being set in late middle school or freshman year to acknowledge that their the children of the previous. Reply if I’m wrong
During the scene where Elle is saying goodbye to her schoolmates at a party, I was appalled when Elle jokingly slapped the bum of the guy who sexually assaulted her. Sexual assault should NEVER be played lightly, and I was upset that it tried to make a joke out of an uncomfortable moment from the first film.
Hollywood is frustrating these days because it tries to pander to the easily offended over “normal” people, and yet they do things like this that would not even be acceptable in ecchi (heavy fan service) anime! Pick a side and stick with it!
@@JeffreyThrash it's Hollywood, they pander to any majority as long as they have green paper, honestly when was the last time Hollywood released something even considered nomination worthy over their many years of fuck all
Fun fact: tuition at Harvard is actually far less than you cited in your google search, since their financial aid structure is based on a flat percentage of your family's household income - so while their listed price was $71,650 for that year, the majority of students paid far less. Still not something you can afford with a summer of waitress work, of course, and given the lifestyles of the people in these movies, their parents are probably millionaires to begin with.
Rich kids will have to pay full tuition unless they're over 25 or their parents make donations which would probably exceed that amount. I live in California, even to afford the worst areas here you have to make more than the national average, where they live it is definitely millionaires including a lot of actual celebrities.
Also how did she get in????!!!!!!!!! She's definately not pursuing sciences or buisness, no studying, no internships. So she's pursuing arts. And mind you Harvard and Berkerly are two of the four most prestigious colleges in the world for arts. HOW DID SHE GET IN!!?? BY DANCING IN ARCADES?! The same for her bf and bff. Those are hard colleges to get into.
The way he called out Elle when she told him that it was a double standard for him to be upset that she’d be around Marco and he was like “mmmya kissed him” and the fact that he was the one to break up with Elle in the end, I’m actually impressed that he somehow became the least unlikeable and had a form of a character arc
Yeah. I hope Kissing Booth stays dead. Whatever you do, CJ, Don't bury it in the Pet Sematary. Bury it in deepest cemetary possible, maybe even hell, and hope that all the rotten souls never escape without getting pissed on by their critics.
I can't wait for The Kissing Booth: The Final Chapter... Also, who the hell follows promises they made when they where kids? When I talk to my childhood friend, he doesn't even remember shit that he did when he was 12.
My friend of over 20 years doesn't remember that we didn't go to elementary school together. She was so certain we did, but I actually went to the poor kids school and she went to the nice one.
So, as bad as these films are, I will give them one little bit of credit. Lee never confesses he is in love with Elle. This easily could have been "the best friend been in love with the other best friend since they were little kids and jealous that they picked their sibling" movie. But they didn't do that, so some credit there movie.
@@rashianand7534 That's my point though. It would make perfect sense to do it, but the fact they don't shows restraint on the writers part. Or the fact that if they did, Lee would have been the obvious pick and the writers clearly wanted her to end up with his brother.
@@entropy5590 Exactly. Not only that Rachel has very little personality, but her whole relationship with Lee takes a back seat to everything else. Honestly, it would've been better if Lee already had a girlfriend, so we'd skip some drama in initiating that relationship. But yeah, making Lee either in love with Elle or gay would've been only two options for writers ten years ago, so we can appreciate some progress in that regard.
Seeing The Dark Crystal Age Of Resistance, which was something both me and my dad had childhood memories from, being cancelled for this parasitic film trilogy, makes me feel like I'm drowning in acid.
@@gracekim25 it was cancelled for being "too expensive" i.e made a profit but just not a big enough one; Kissing Booth movies are cheap to make so they'll keep making them.
The movie was one of my favourite fantasy movies ever, and the 10 episodes do it justice almost 40 years later. Maybe another TV show or even movie will fill in the missing link- a medium sized film studio or else. I hope in some way or another it will get a sequel with the same high quality
Netflix cancelled or failed to renew a lot of other genuinely great reboots and original shows, as a bit near the beginning of this video aptly demonstrated. You’re hardly alone. One of these days I’ve got to tell my parents to stop wasting money on a Netflix subscription none of us have enjoyed since 2019 so that we can free up money for a streaming service that is actually trying.
What’s the point of being a large movie studio if you aren’t even willing to have a bigger budget than a teenager using Blender on their Mom’s ancient laptop?
The premise is pretty dumb, the actress is 6,2, so there would be more than enough romantic partners to be “tall enough” for her and she wouldn’t be that much of an outlier that it would be life changing.
@@6.5ftkristapsporzingis71 i've seen someome comment that this movie would be way better as an exaggerated comedy, like in that scene where she's at the library and some guy goes to talk to her, she gets up and the guy goes away cause she's tall, but if instead of that her height was so exaggerated that when she got up her head hit the ceiling it would be way funnier Don't remember who commented it, but damn i gotta agree
The scene with Elle’s dad… I don’t believe in hitting children, but if I had a brat like Elle for a daughter, I might make an exception. That man must have the patience of a saint.
Okay haven't seen a second of this movie but why do all the actors in their mid-20s (who play 17 year olds mind you) look like they're constantly acting like LITERAL TODDLERS. The fucking hyperactivity, the excitement about things my 7 year old niece wouldn't think are fun, the 'omg so quirky!' montages?!
I saw a study once that showed kids tended to watch and idolize things with preteens. Preteens watched teens, and teens watched adult targeted stuff. Maybe they are sadly aiming for a very young viewership?
My Mom teaches at USC and I never heard that before. I have no doubt that SoCal kids in general are absolute brats compared to the rest of the country, though, myself included. Maybe I should ask about the students she deals with some time…
WHAT CHRIS PRATT IS THE BEST CHOICE FOR MARIO. I mean yeah there is the original Mario voice actor that could do the job better BUT IT'S CHRIS PRATT MAN
Also 1899, Midnight Club, Raising Dion, Mindhunter, Ratchet, Dead to Me, and about a thousand others. But at least they made a 3rd Kissing Booth movie.
I feel bad for siding with Noah but honestly out of everyone in this god forsaken trilogy, Noah actually seems to have matured a bit? Like idk, he's no longer as violent (still bitchy but would prolly do the same if I ended up with an irl Elle), he's actually sort of patient(?) and he tries to make up with Elle (even if it doesn't end that... well *ba dum tss*). So with all due respect on how horrible this trilogy is, it's kinda nice to see them accidentally write out a small character arc for Noah lmao.
@@kaitlyn1689 better to die off soon with a proper finale than become Netflix's anthro answer to The Simpsons and\or Family Guy. Even the best writers fail if left for long enough or, as with Rick and Morty, grow too complacent in thier crappiness. BoJack can at least be called finished and wrapped up in a bow and sequels can be considered fanfiction if they're terrible. In my head, anything under Disney for Star Wars is a Wattpad self-insert and the continuity ends at Return of the Jedi chronologically and Revenge of the Sith by release date. The decisions around Legends were legit so shit that writers of the newer shows and comics are reincorporating stuff from the seperate continuity. When your own staff ignore mandates in favour of what fans actually want...I feel like that says all ya need to know quite honestly.
In many ways the ending was abrupt and open like the normal season endings. It left me feeling Bojack would reoffend and we'd have a jail arc next season.
Lee feels like this one girl I met once that got super attached to me to the point I couldn't even hang out with other people that she would think I was "putting her to the side". It was an awful friendship and thankfully it only lasted a bit over an year!
I went through the same thing all throughout hs. I met her our freshman year, and honestly, that year with her was good. I actually considered her a friend. We weren’t super close but I thought she was a good person. When we were sophomores though, I became friends with a guy that she liked and then she began to threaten me to stay away. The guy wasn’t even a good guy. I dropped him as a friend about half way through the school year because he was a bully. I was even trying to tell her “He’s not worth it. He’s not a good guy” but she thought that was me trying to trick her so I could have him 🙄 She made up rumors about me hooking up with a bunch of different guys, but the guys she was mentioning didn’t know who I was and I didn’t know them so those rumors went away quickly, but it still pissed me off. Throughout junior and senior year, I didn’t want to talk to her anymore and I made that very clear to her, but she would always try to act as if nothing happened and she would call me a bully for telling her that I wasn’t her friend. She would try to lock arms with me in the hallway, she would come up behind me and hug me, it got really irritating. It got to the point where whenever I made plans with other friends, I would ask them not to post about it and not to tell her about it because she’d throw a huge fit and call me a bully for not including her. We went to the same college and she would try to do the same things again but since the campus was huge, it was easy to avoid her. Once the pandemic hit, it became super easy to avoid her and I haven’t seen or talked to her since
What still pisses me off is that in the 2nd movie, Elle gets angry at Noah because she believes that he’s cheating on her (and she doesn’t even talk to him about it like a normal person), and while this is happening, she’s freely ogling the Spanish exchange student, having romantic walks on the beach with him, and flirting with him. Then she kisses him RIGHT in front of Noah after he travelled all the way from college just to see her dance tournament, and we’re expected to like her?? What’s more: Noah ends up forgiving her a few minutes later! Why?? She’s an annoying, hypocritical liar. What makes her so worth the mental anguish of cheating?
I got confused because its spelled Dredd. So I thought you were saying Metroid Dread didn't get a sequel. But yeah Dredd was surely low budget enough for a studio to afford a sequel.
T^T WHY IS ELLE ALWAYS DEALING WITH THESE MEN WITH THE MENTAL MATURITY OF A FIVE YEAR OLD? WHY IS THE MOVIE ACTING LIKE IT'S OKAY?!? WHY IS ELLE ALSO ALWAYS ACTING FIVE?!?!?!??!
The thing that bothers me most about this is that they could have chosen some of the good Wattpad books, like Until Proven Innocent, the Piano Man or even Homewrecker. Those are delightful books. But they chose…this.
Maybe those choices were too high-brow and serious for the audience they were going for. Even Toy Story would have been too high-brow and serious for the audience they were going for.
@Lucinda Null if they really wanted a bad boy story (i know that isn't the movie premise but it's the vibe I'm getting) The Good Girl's Bad Boys is right there!
i would have wanted them to go with 'the undoing of ryder burke'. its a beautiful book that revolves around a girl who has a very prominent sexual history, and how she was r*ped by two close friends. it was one of the only books that ever made me cry. the mc had been part of the popular people cliche before the incident, so it would be such a change from the 'im not like other girls' boring mc.
Good call... There are a lot of good books written by novice writers in Wattpad that are far better than the ones chosen to be produced or published... I don't get why toxic relationships, Fifty Shades, 1D reverse characters get to shine than other books???
I’m honestly grateful to the kissing booth. The feeling of sheer euphoria I felt after finishing the third movie and knowing there wouldn’t be another one is just unlike anything I had ever felt before
Now I'd be interested in seeing a Red, White, and Royal Blue review, if only for Cynical to get a British fix and see Taylor Zakhar Perez in a good rom-com.
Man that opening hit hard. This was absolutely hilarious. You could really feel his anger and sadness. Its over CJ. You can relax now. You outdone yourself by going through the series. Well done! I do look forward to the other tv shows and films you will review in the future.
Being reminded that the Dark Crystal series got cancelled reminds me of how much the making of documentary for that series is the most pure example of executives speaking absolute bullshit (in terms of "creative enthusiasm") I've ever seen in my life.
I would've laughed if Elle ended up getting pregnant and it was somehow against the rules to get knocked up by your bestie's brother. Definitely would've been a better conflict tbh.
@@night-seeker666 honestly marco should have gotten with Rachel by the 3rd film, both were the few teens/young adults in this trilogy that did not make my blood pressure increase by 10 folds when they were on screen
I love how I pretty much ALWAYS watch Cynical Reviews new videos,but they NEVER show up on my recommended. A day late but I got here, good thing I check.
I'm having trouble getting through this review. The only comfort here is hearing you tear it apart. I cannot imagine how terrible this was for you. Thank you for your courage.
The „get in the car!“ scene reminded me instantly of the almost exact same scene from the recent series “Maid”. Which obviously was all about domestic/emotional abuse. Well done Netflix - installing decent values in teenagers since day one.😒
Elle has been lying to and abusing the boys in her life and they still worship the very ground she walks on it sickens me that she gets a happy ending she really doesn't deserve it🤬🤬🤬
Guys, give cynical a break, he's suffering constant hemorrhaging with all of the shitty romcoms that he's on the brink of death, begging for the sweet release but the viewers keep bringing him back to continue the agonizing cycle
For real! So many of my friends think that she’s a bad actress because of these movies (and Slenderman) but she really just keeps getting bad roles. She was absolutely amazing in The Act and I tell my friends to watch that instead so they can actually see Joey give a performance
The fact that they had her playing Ori leaves such a bad taste in my mouth, the fact they have the nerve to associate such a brilliant piece of art with their terrible waste of memory space is unbelievable.
CJ is like Doomguy in how he keeps vanquishing the demons of The Kissing Booth which is his personal hell. I feel if they ever make another one, he'll do the Doom 64 way and permanently stay in his Hell to ensure another Kissing Booth can't ever rise again.
Thank goodness that you went through this. I'm happy to see your dedication to these cynical reviews. My wife wanted to watch the second one, but I had to remind her of the brain melting that happened from watching the first one. So half I didn't have to take the bullet on watching the entire trilogy. I commend you on your relationship saving skills! I couldn't have made it through all three! You, sir, are a legend!!!
Something that I've always thought is that there's a difference between deserving something, and bringing something onto yourself; A saint doesn't deserve to fall down the stairs and break their neck, but if they were deliberately walking around with a blindfold on... Yeah, they still don't deserve it, but it's hard to feel bad for them... The main characters of this movie are like that.
Elle is going off to college. Why is she making a big deal about her dad loving and marrying someone new? I understand she had dad to herself for 6 years but Elle will be off living her adult life. Why can’t her dad have the chance to do the same?
Dear Netflix: for Cynical Reviews Sake and in the name of all that’s good and holy please stop making cliche, over the top teenage romantic comedies/dramas.
"GET IN THE CAR, ELLE!" that's genuinely unsettling to watch. That's NOT what your romantic male lead should be doing. That's abusive villain boyfriend behaviour.
Before I watch this video I feel bad for cynical reviews literally got broken by this movie can we give this bloke a round of applause can we give can we give him a round of applause for his bravery and determination he soldier through like a British Marine.
When you revealed you were going to do this movie, I had a moment where I thought you'd already done 3 and you were revealing a Kissing Booth 4 and I had a mini panic attack. I wasn't prepared for that. Thank goodness it was just this sh*tshow
She got into Harvard. She got into Harvard while being blatantly stupid, and she REJECTED the opportunity? Jesus Christ, of all the things in this movie that make people entitled, WHY?!
The bit where he shows all the genuinely-good Netflix shows that were unceremoniously cancelled or ended while the Kissing Booth got an entire Trilogy just killed me. I know it’s a long-running meme that Netflix just accepts everything and anything on their platform, but that would imply that there is at least a small chance every month of an actual high-brow classic getting picked up by them and heavily promoted. I feel like Netflix just threw up their hands in defeat the moment they got a little more competition via Disney Plus and HBO Max-I haven’t found anything remotely interesting on Netflix since 2019’s Klaus. Looking forward to that live-action Cowboy Bebop review, btw; celebrities white-washing beloved Japanese anime while also accusing any critics of being misogynistic bigots has always been the height of Holly-weird hypocrisy-except for Alita Battle Angel apparently, but I have yet to see that for myself.
As someone who read/loved the original manga the film was based on: I highly approve of that film. James Cameron is a hardcore fanboy of the series and it was all over the screen (in a good way). Sure some changes where made from the source material , but it worked. It stuck to the core ideas and themes of the original narrative while also tossing in loads of references from the later volumes (as the film focuses on the first 1-4 volumes of the manga and took things from the OVA anime). Sadly the planned sequels are in limbo due to the merger between Disney and 20th century fox. I do hope to heck they finally happen someday.
I was incredibly surprised that Tuca and Bertie was one of the shows that got canceled as it was a Netflix Original that I really enjoyed and wanted a continuation of, especially since there were story elements that have yet to be resolved. Any hope that Adult Swim will make new episodes in the future or was this show doomed to fail on both sides?
The ONLY SIGN OF MATURITY in this film is when Noah chooses NOT to start a fight with Marco on the beach, because he did that countless times in the last two films!!!
