The Land Rover Discovery 4 is Annoyingly Good.... at Everything. 

Which engine do you have on yours?

Have you got it back eventually?

We traded our beloved Land Cruiser Amazon for a Disco 3 and regretted it from the second we drove off the forecourt. Traded up to a Disco 4 which was altogether better, great car, kept it 8 years but couldn't face the idea of a Disco 5 which seemed worse in almost every way. Still miss the Amazon! What a wonderful machine that was.

Miss my disco 4 daily... sat on my drive most of the time as I cycle more couldn't justify the cost but, luv it everytime I got in. Went all over euro never missed a beat. Had it 6 yrs.

Drove a disco 4 before buying the disco 5 and the difference is crazy might just be me but the 5 is better offroad and on and is more comfortable hasn't been any costly repairs after owning for 5 years

In most markets (most parts of Africa as an example), there's almost no market for any Land Rover product, only pretty wealthy people who like the LR badge will get a Range Rover. Those who don't seem to care about the badge much or can't afford to spend all their money maintaining their daily car would get a Land Cruiser, Prado or a Lexus GX, whichever is available in their market or whichever they can afford. Either of those are more reliable, as luxurious (or even more luxurious), and parts are more easily accessible. Which is why they say, if you want to go into the bush, get a Land Rover, but if you want to get out, get a Land Cruiser.

@@damilolaakanni They only get pre owned landcruisers from Japan because it's cheaper and most reliable than any other SUV in that similar price range, if they could afford a new land rover they would buy it

I agree. It gives me plenty of notice when something needs maintaining. Mine has under 100k in miles. I've replaced most of the common failure points, including clutch, and haven't done a thing to it in 2 years. If you have any mechanical understanding and some tools, you can do almost everything yourself. Edit: Apart from turbo and crossover pipe because of idiotic packaging, and don't get me started pulling off the oil separator...

I love how Land Rover owners rationalize reliability. “Apart from changing water pump, door window motors, numerous electrical problems, multiple air suspension failure, muh Landie never let me down”

@@electrikoptik You got me on door lock motors! That's the most annoying fault

@@themekfrommars Youve got manual d3 or d4?

@@electrikoptik you should listen to Toyota owners pretending that faults, wear and tear & regular service do not exist😂

Wow. That's a way to go to shoot things. Must have racked up much miles.

Sir, it was *not* unbeatable off road.

@@Grimdotdotdot for its size and features, it was and is 😅

I thought they are very good to hunting mechanics around 🤣

​@gazw01, how dare you compare a 2004 Isuzu trooper to a disco 4 with at least 7 years of R &D in all areas. The diso 4 is not for the average citizen, it's for people that can afford the luxury and maintenance costs, so if you're going moan about maintenance and running costs, then the disco 4 nor any JLR product is definitely not for you.

Don’t we all ?

@@AndyK.1 No?

It's all auto journos. They all slander 4wds but secretly love them for the same reasons the rest of us do. Harris is the same.

And truth be told the older the Disco 3 and 4 get the more popular they become

Same think happens to me

it is an airbag suspension veichle am I correct ?

@@clarkeee876 Yes you're correct.

It's incredulous how you English either won't tell the truth, or don't have experience with cars made anywhere else, or blatantly lie. You talk about it's issues, yet state "it's surprisingly reliable" in the same breathe. No, you admit yourself that it's NOT RELIABLE. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-asXBzRhkBOk.html

watch a channel called " LR Time " he also had an issue with the door not locking all the time and fixed it

great family car!

You've been lucky..most are absolute heaps of something smelly.

Never heard a sentence with “bulletproof” and “landrover” in before Didnt think it wad possible Youve been very lucky

I really dislike screens in any car. Sadly it's become the norm.

I can confirm that all of this is true, Im 6'3" and can fit comfortably in all the seats, even the way back. I'm currently in college and one of my friends has an LR4 which I probably driver more than she does and it is probably the best all around car i've driven. I'm in the US so it has the 5.0 V8 in it which has proved to be semi reliable. The car is regularly driven from southern California to the state of Colorado which is about 1200 miles one way and its made it without problems many many times. We took a ski trip in a it once with 5 people, food, clothes, and skies for a week with a keg and other things in the back, probably a literal half ton of weight between passengers and gear, the engine took no notice of it, this car has so much torque I was able to drive at a comfortable 80 going up a mountain highway without turning more than 2000 rpm, this car is the ultimate road trip car due to its space and ungodly comfort. Jay did a great review but he downplayed the luxury just a bit, this car is the most comfortable thing i've been in, more than every bimmer or merc i've ridden in and even the range rover sport.

Simon & Max - thank you for your comments as they're priceless to me. I'm 6ft 3 and always have the question of whether I can sit behind my driving position. Have you guys tried that yet? If so, can you cope behind your own driving position in the second row? Cheers, Guys :-)

@@LukePC I've been sitting on the 2nd row in my own Discovery 4, being 6ft 2in myself, and can fit there perfectly fine, even if the driver's seat is all the way back. I can even fit on the 3rd row seats pretty comfortably if needed.

That's amazing insight! Thank you for the reply. Really appreciate it :)

For some reason I am also drawn to this vehicle, love watching RU-vid content of this Vehicle and I own the baby of them all the evoque ( wife is tiny so wouldn't want to drive anything bigger but does like the veler )I personally think its a handsome motor inside and out that is also capable on and off

I love his videos too!

I agree, the videos are brilliant

I was a parts manager for a LR dealer. Other than Smith switches flying apart I don't remember customers having anything bad to say about them.

Other than changing oil, what constitutes “regular maintenance?”

@2JZ with a big single ?!?

The poor reliability is based on statistics which doesn't mean that every owner experiences the problem but evidently ownership of a modern LR is a very risky proposition, even more so for those who intend to use the vehicle off road in remote locations

You are a statistical outlier!

We had a v8 petrol disco 4 ( in the middle east), great engine - but horrendous fuel economy haha. I think the 3L is the best engine for the car.

My fiat panda 4x4 perform just better without the discovery experience 🤣

How can I have ur garage lol?? But seriously, that's like a dream garage tbh

Have you been changing the oil this often all the 275k? Looking at this model at the moment.

Is a well kept, low mileage (61000), 2015, Disco 4, HSE Lux an appreciating asset and a future classic?

Yep, that was a delightful surprise to me as well. Touring the north coast of Scotland in my recently-purchased D4 last year I couldn't find so much as an overpriced B&B room, let alone a hotel availability for the night. So I parked up in a remote layby folded the seats and found it gave a completly flat area capable of taking a double mattress! £100 saved and a comfortable night's sleep.

@@davids9549 Yes it’s surprisingly comfortable in the back there! Especially where I am in Australia - no worries about bugs, spiders and snakes trying to climb into the sleeping bag with you… 😄

I wouldn't say "any vehicle" is reliable if maintained. There are some genuinely poorly designed or made cars that won't last no mater how much regular maintenance you do. A lot of newer BMW diesel engines are just badly designed and suffer catastrophic engine failure do to these design flaws despite frequent oil changes, etc.

@@edim108 Yep! That's also a fair comment.

One other benefit is that the load space when rear seats are folded down is completely flat! Also a standard blue pallet will slide in with no problem. The Defender (new and old) and the Discovery 5 cannot do this. Had a fork lift just drop a pallet of slabs in once. Very handy. Also had a NATO pintle made to fit (easily) so I can tow NATO trailers. Impossible with the D5. I know I looked into it :(

Well apart from the cranks snapping in the TDV6 !! At least with a Disco 2 you can fix most thing yourself, the Disco 4 is a lot harder to DIY.

The discovery 1 was not related to the defender, it has the range rover classic chassis

The D1, Classic and the Defender, all share most of the mechanical parts - engine, Chassi, Transmissions, suspensions, etc. @@BenFisher532017

Yes, the 3 is a more authentic workhorse - less bling and much less complicated (eg 1 turbo not 2) so less potential for unreliability. That's largely a lottery, tho it's helped by good enthusiast maintenance (yourself or specialist, not expensive LR fitters blindly following the book). D2 most unreliable car I had. D3 most reliable (now 18 yrs). Niece's 2017 D4 snapped its crank as this too-compact, highly tuned/stressed V6 motor occasionally does in both TDV6 or SDV6 form

I'm very surprised more folk haven't mentioned the crankshaft!

Does it keep breaking down like they say?

@@lionheart.5983 Not at all. It's been great, just a few minor things. Has over 230,000kms.

This guy knows. Japanese imports are low mileage too.

Yes,you only live once.

Well reminded mate

There's nothing like driving one. They're great. you just need to become a mechanic to own one.

I did it the exact opposite way (replaced a MY2012 XC70 D5 AWD with a MY2016 Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE) and never have been happier!

@@nuuttihyttinen you did it the right way. I’m currently looking for an old Range Rover to get my Land Rover fix.

This is why I love the comments sections of channels like these, always an opportunity to learn. Nice one Andrew

@@markwood7045 no problem Mark!

I see plenty of these on Pirelli all season tyres and still able to go off road and handle it maybe not as good as the off road tyres but won't sound as noisy and wear better.

@@josephgittos3787 I’ve seen a few get stuck on the Pirellis in mud, but yes the Pirelli Scorpion Verde is fine for 95% of Discovery/Range Rover users who either don’t go off-road or just go across grass fields. For venturing into mild mud for the remaining 5% of users, the Grabber AT3 works much better, without the noise and handling compromises of a chunkier tyre.

I have had the same dilemma and have been through several sets of tires since I go very off-road (basically where there are no roads) a couple of times a year. The last time was in October we were 100+ miles from any paved road. BUT we drove 400 miles to get there, which means having a good compromise tire, here are my top ones: 1. Falken Wildpeak AT Trail 2. Nokian APT 3. Nokian AT 4. General Destination AT All these AFAIK are 3PMSF rated, and the Wildpeak is an incredible tire. Smooth & quiet on road and very, very capable off road - the Nokians are almost as good, but with kevlar sidewalls, the AT version is very quiet on road and handles OK, but worse gas mileage than the Falken - also it has kevlar all around, which is nice when you air down. The Destination AT is pretty good and a lot cheaper than the other 3, but degrades faster than the other 3 - that is my experience with all General tires, have them on other cars. Falken pioneered this category with the Wildpeak AT Trail, it's the benchmark and everyone is trying to copy it. If you offroad occasionally and there are few sharp rocks where you are, get that one - I did 10k miles on mine before I sold the vehicle. If you have to deal with sharp rocks, get the Nokians, done 2000 miles on the ATs (400 off road) and they are great. The Nokians are also lighter. I've had Pirellis Scorpion AT+ and the Verde, they were terrible. The Grabber was an all around nothing tire (e.g. did nothing even OK), I would get the Nokian ATs instead. If you rarely go off-road - get one of the "all weather" tires like the CrossClimate, GR4, WeatherActive, etc.

I'll get one.

Me too. One D3 and 2D4's All used off-road. I'm dreading the day in 3 years where i can't get a replacement. Where to from here? If only the Defender had the split tale-gate.