I thought I over analyzed movies and tv shows but I’m impressed lia was able to recognize a background instrumental and list other cinemas she’s heard it in. Next level
The episode had to happen now, because Bill's letter is what gave Joel his mission. Find one person to care about. I mean, Joel even smiles at the end. First time since the world died. He couldn't mourn Tess or care for Ellie properly until he got this note.
It moved the story along tremendously. The letter inspired Joel to open himself up to caring about someone else. And not continue to be closed off. Same destination as in the game. But different roads taken. Bill in the game showed Joel what he would become if he continued the way he was. Did you see Joel finally smile when Ellie said Linda Ronstadt was better than nothing. If this episode didn't occur. We would have to endure umpteenth episodes of Joel and Ellie getting closer.
You can't expect all gamers or young people to have a connection with the contrast of how this episode has with the other one's. First two episodes consist of tragic death scenes compare to this one where two people found love in the apocalypse and get to grow older together, and die on their own terms happily in each other's arms. Some who has not experience this kind of love would not connect to it right away and be drawn by it, instead wanting more overly predictable zombie actions and death and turmoil. As I got older, I appreciate a good moving story when I see it. Beautiful episode, well done!!
@@hawaiianpizza9386 I've never found love, not anything beyond familial love, but I can still relate to this story because I live with a parent who has a nerve/muscular disease. The slow deterioration of their muscles and ability is heartbreaking to see. I see a lot of Frank in my mom, and for a while she really did want to die, just like Frank does. Thankfully however, her quality of life has improved since then and she no longer is depressed, and she wants to keep on living. I haven't found love yet, but I have seen what love is like in the way my mom and dad interact. Which is why I am able to connect so much with this episode. (btw I'm a zoomer so I would count as one of those young people)
I feel like that's all reaching. It didn't really do any of that imo. Becuase we didn't need to see Bill and Frank's entire life story because Joel reading the letter is all that mattered then, he could still be all sad and open up and everything you said without us seeing Bill and Frank's pov Becuase Joel himself didn't see Bill and Frank's pov. We could've spent more time with Ellie and Joel and arrived at the end and the whole story could be the exact same.
Just want to suggest that the point of the entire episode is that Bill, who was an antisocial curmudgeon, found a purpose in Frank and by doing so had a satisfying life. That's what he's trying to tell Joel in the letter. That is the point of the episode when Joel decides to take Ellie, not just because Tess asked him to. Purpose gives us a reason to live, that's the purpose of the episode.
I'm comfortable enough with myself as a strait dude to say that Pedro stirs something in me too. He does it to all of us and if someone says otherwise, they are lying. This episode was really amazing, glade we got to spend more time with Bill and Frank.
Molly is adorable. Really enjoy these reactions. The infected in the basement was a Stalker. It's an infected stage between Runners that have zero fungal growth and Clickers that have most of their face and upper body covered.
I think it's an important episode and not just filler. I'll say this, that letter that Bill leaves to Joel will definitely inform him on important major decisions he makes later down the story. And that's assuming the show adaption will be following the game's major story beats.
14:43 that wasn't a portrait of Joel. Thay was actually Murray Bartlett, the guy who plays Frank, on another HBO show called 'Looking'. So it's an easter egg of sorts
Such a beautifully written episode a lot of tears man i didn't think Nick Offerman had this performance in him And it's so cool how the show is sticking so close to the source material because in the game we knew Bill and Frank were a gay couple but we never got to see their backstory and i someone who has played the game multiple times and love the story more than anything i appreciate how the show really fleshed out their story it was truly amazing to watch
I'm a 70 yro married gay man (Ron & I have been a couple for 34 yrs) and I love this poignant episode about middle-aged to senior gay men that weren't just background or comic relief characters. Thank you ladies and other youtube reactors for your positive reactions. Also, the irrepressible Frank was "Bugs Bunny" coming up, out of the rabbit hole to Bill's curmudgeonly "Elmer Fudd" who finally caught that "wascally wabbit"...and liked it! 🥰🌈
I think it forwarded the story quite a bit, because of what it did for Joel's character. It used Bill and Frank to demonstrate how one finds purpose in a world where everything is gone. Then Bill's letter reminds Joel of what his purpose has always been; he's a protector. That's Joel's purpose, and it is what sends him on this mission and will open his heart to Ellie. It's masterful storytelling used to serve the main character in a bottle episode to show how the world (and Tess and Joel) changed over time.
It didn't move the story far in terms of the game progression. But it made the world the story is happening in far richer than the game ever imagined it.
The beauty of this episode is that it subverts our expectations. We've been conditioned through modern storytelling to fear everything, especially the benign, the innocuous. Dolls, children, children with dolls, dolls that look like children, all manner of seemingly harmless and familiar things, all trying to kill you. We expect that any kindness will be answered with violence, that any trust met with betrayal. We as an audience have been primed to fear the most faithful of friends, the most reliable family members - especially in this particular genre of horror - and when we encounter a story about caring and commitment amongst the ruins of a dying world, we don't know how to process it and it hits hard. "I was not expecting this" seems to be the most common refrain, with good reason. This is ostensibly a series about a 'zombie apocalypse' where anyone and everyone can go from being a kindred soul to a mortal threat in an instant and no one is to be trusted, especially other humans. Yet this particular tale is about trust, and love, both matrimonial and romantic. It's about allowing oneself to be vulnerable and in that vulnerability, finding those moments of existence that are both ephemeral and priceless. We expect a calamity, a personal buskin beyond the destruction of our civilization. We anticipate a type of misfortune that doesn't occur. During the worst catastrophe in the history of human kind, we bear witness the best thing to ever happen to these two humans, and it's profound; jarring. We await a devastation that never comes to pass; that expectation of tragedy is subverted by a story of love. We expect blood and destruction; what we get is a masterpiece about small, beautiful lives lived less ordinary. This is one of the best stories ever told on film, in my opinion, and it's based on a video game; we've come a long way from Pong.
21:00 that's what I was thinking of too, especially them using Max Richter. The leftovers is prob my top 3 shows ever, it has so many similar episodes. Wish more people watched it.
I as so happy to see your reaction to this! Courtney you were spot on. This episode was a work of art. In a world of death and chaos they had a wonderful long life and decided how they wanted to go out on their terms.
The story did differ from the hints and breadcrumbs of their backstory that we got in the game, but the shows version is honestly better and makes more sense. But even though the story was different, Bills characters overall purpose to the story stayed the same. He was just a side character after all to get them a truck/battery, and to help Joel realize the moral lesson between surviving and living.
Bill taught Frank how to survive, and Frank taught Bill how to live. The difference between the game and the movie happens during that argument in the street. In the game Bill says absolutely not, Frank starts resenting him because he’s an extrovert. Eventually Frank leaves, gets bitten, hangs himself to not turn. And leaves an angry letter to Bill, to which Bill swallows his tears and feelings and goes, “Well then fuck you too”. Bill will die bitter and angry having never lived at all. In the show Bill compromised a bit, and let Frank love him how he wanted to love him. Let him make a friend, Tess and Joel. Spruce up the neighborhood. Frank in turn compromised and settled for just that. It’s still an apocalypse, he can’t invite too many people or do too much. So they both died satisfied, in each other’s arms, after a full life. In either case their plot purpose is to teach Joel that surviving isn’t enough. In the game Bill shows Joel how bad and purposeless his life can be if he doesn’t open up. In the show Bill shows Joel how good it can be if he opens up. Joel reads the letter and realizes that Frank died happy. And Tess died never having that chance. So he starts opening up a bit. Both Bill and Franks are sides of the same coin. The bad ending. And the good ending.
Watched the whole ep without realizing it was Armand from The White Lotus, such a good actor. Would have loved to see your guys' reaction to s1 and s2 tho, feels like no one is reacting to it.
Gotta give a clap to the makeup artist, not just for this episode on Bill and Frank, but for 1 and 2 for Anna Torv. They aged her up so well. I kept thinking, if Ellie and Joel arrived earlier, maybe Frank would have changed his mind for a bit longer to help care and teach her for awhile.
Joel remembers the exact date of Outbreak Day in part because it was his birthday. He was supposed to get a cake. Also, in the prior episode it was established that the government bombed cities, so they turned to killing people on a much bigger scale pretty quickly. Edit: Just to add, no spoilers, Bill is an analogue for Joel in both the show and the game. They have similarities that are pretty express (though handled very differently). That's what the Bill/Frank portions of this episode press forward, rather than the plot, and it all comes back by the end of the show. Killing civilians for the greater good (which also featured in episode 2) comes back, protecting this one person with saving "and God help any motherfuckers who get in our way" comes back. Joel is an unhappy man who takes little joy from anything, and Bill was the same, until he met Frank, his "purpose."
Well, I have to disagree with your point that this didn't move the plot forward, since it actually did by a lot. This is definitely not a filler episode. What this showed you it's actually what's really at stake here and what has been lost, specially on Joel's side: the human element, the beauty of simple things, that love is something worth fighting for and that having to care for someone has both it's risks and it's rewards. If you look at Bill, he was basically just surviving until Frank showed up and only from there on he finally started to enjoy life. That's basically the stage Joel has been for the past 20 years. Bill's letter actually sums all this pretty well and if you think about it's extremely relevant for what's to come. Also, Bill's letter making that reference to Tess is actually the moment you get to see Joel finally getting to have a moment of grief and coming to terms with what happened. This episode actually not only serves to put things back into perspective, but also raises the stakes, by once again showing not only what has been lost in the procees, but that's also possible to find reasons to keep living (not only surviving) in the worst of times.
I worked QC for a veterinary med company. The animal painkillers had the same checks as the human ones we also produced for budget supermarket brands. If the HPLC readout wasn’t up to standard, you reran the test until it did. It was just a matter of making the computer say yes rather than detecting problems.
I like the Leftovers comparison. My wife and I watched that show and this episode had that same emotional destruction factor. It felt very similar in tone and everything else. Just a beautiful hour of TV...and it also helps flesh out the world more, and adds a little to Joel's character development.
I know this video is several months old but I just found you guys and I have to say….Pedro is 20 years older than me and I have the biggest crush on him. My husband has just accepted it at this point 😂 Pedro could “technically” be old enough to be my father but he would’ve been a young dad lol
Every reactor knows Nick. I've never really watched Parks and Rec... So first few reactions I saw, I was asking "who are you talking about?" [Limitation of my own viewing experience] Animal medications [I am not a doctor, pharmacist, veterinarian, or any other professional with medical knowledge, I am speaking entirely from my experience and personal knowledge of the medications I have been prescribed, those prescribed to members of my family, and those prescribed for my various animals over the years] Many medicines have similar effects on similarly related animal species. For example a medicine that affect humans a specific way, will affect most mammals the same way. There are traits that are defining, such as "hoofed" such as a horse, "cloven hoofed" (such as pigs, goats, sheep, cow) as well as ruminants (multiple stomached animals such as cows, sheep), which affect the drug's effects, as well as blatant aspects such as "primate" (human and chimpanzee) versus "Bovine" (Cow, buffalo, etc.) but the effects are tested for specific species, and what may be safe for one, may not be safe for another. For example there are medicines which are safe to administer to most dogs, but not specific breeds. Due to the size of the patient, the appropriate dosage my be different, the inactive ingredients may be different. [For example, sheep are very sensitive to copper content, while a human or dog not so much] Never give a medicine to an animal without first knowing from someone with proper training. It is common to use a particular "pig dewormer" as an off label use on certain non-swine animals, but the dosages are completely different, and the method of administration is a bit different. 3:36-3:42 "So him and Tess were like low key getting it" Let us look back to Episode 1. Robert is terrified that "her guy" is going to come after him. After a night in lockup, Tess comes in and curls up next to Joel in his bed, and this doesn't alarm him, and he's fine with her being there in the morning Joel sees her face, and is ready to go ballistic. Tess tells Joel "if you walk out of here all 'Clint Eastwood' Me: "Low key?" 5:39-5:52 "It's a common gun" It might have been a common gun (I'll be honest, I am not certain what it is) but who is manufacturing bullets these days? FEDRA, and probably a few fairly "small market" makers. FEDRA probably uses an ammo that almost no one else makes, so if a gun gets into the "wrong hands" the ammo is limited. rounds I am familiar with: .22LR, .32, .38 .357 Magnum, 9mm, 10mm, 7.62x54R, 7.62x39, .40, .45, .50 BMG. A revolver built for .357 Magnum can likely accept and use .38, I really don't know of others that can share 2 round types offhand. Just from my personal experience with these firearms, It doesn't matter how many bullets you can find, if they aren't the right kind of bullets. (If you have 5,000 .38 rounds, and 5,000 .22 rounds, they are useless as ammo, if your gun only takes 7.62x39, and arguably, FEDRA likely uses something akin to the 7.62x51 NATO or 5.56x45 NATO rounds, both of which I have limited familiarity with) 6:02-6:08 "Damn, he like, remembers it" It was his 36th birthday (Friday), and that same night (before dawn on Saturday) his daughter died in his arms. Personally, I could have used a few more minutes of Joel and Ellie, but since they were dead the time Joel and Ellie arrived, we needed all their backstory now, more impactful than inserting a flashback later. We kind of had to tell their story, since Tess had sent Joel to take Ellie to "Bill and Frank's"
I'm still tearing up with each reaction I watch lol. Just too good! Lol, Lia I'm no romance person either but this really moved me. I also love when shows take their time and aren't afraid to have slow moments for character development and world building . Love it
This is actually cannon for the most part. GAME SPOILERS Bill and Frank were together for a long time in the game. The only major differences are (a) they become POV characters instead of side characters and (b) instead of Frank getting fed up with Bill and leaving, and then leaving a bitter suicide note, the two of them stay together and go out as one. So, a happier ending, but still, for the most part it was cannon. (only other real change is Joel didn't know Frank in the game)
Hi ladies, hey Molly hope you feel better soon ! This was such a great episode ( in my opinion), very sad though. Pedro Pascual is killing it the last few years, Game of Throne, Narcos, The Mandalorian and now The Last of Us. I Always look forward to these reactions, you three never disappoint! Take care ✌
Great episode and great reaction. Pedro Pascal stars in a really GREAT movie called, "The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent" and I would LOVE to see you guys react to it! Really funny movie and you guys would have a super fun time. Hope you consider it!
Dog medicine is not rejected human drugs. It goes through a rigorous FDA approval process just like human medicine. If there isn't an approved pet drug for what condition is being treated, vets are allowed to prescribe human drugs. There isn't a doggie Xanax. It is the same thing they use in humans
The one thing I really didn't mind them changing from the game, that's how you do an adaption. Expand and flesh out side characters that are barely in the original, give them more depth. This definitely wouldn't be possible in a game format so I think it's good they're taking advantage of this being a tv series. Also good way to get all the homophobes to quit the show because it only gets gayer from here on out :D
Just because people didn't like the episode doesn't make them homophobes I didn't care about this episode at all or these characters doesn't mean I'm homophobic
@@Quzga im not explaining myself what im saying is its always people like you that claim that everyones homophobic because they didn't like the episode
@@itzbp9949 Well, evidently it's being review bombed by 30% of all accounts with all the homophobic comments left on IDmb as angry middle age men all up in arms with their keyboard going to a movie rating website to give it the lowest star possible compared to only 1-2% of people giving it 1 star in the first two episode. This has happened before to the Last of Us 2 game when it came out when angry gamer went on to gaming sites to orchestrate a review bombing on certain dates for whatever reason to voice their displeasure. Did not put a dent on game sales though and making this a controversial episode will just only bring more attention to the show. This is what is wrong with our world when people want to be triggered by regular human being choosing to want to he happy with whomever they want to.
4:55 they are actually called stalkers, stage 2 infected, stage 1 are the runners the one in the first episode, stage 3 are the clickers and a secret stage 4 and even stage 5
I was wondering why so many people didn't trust Frank initially. The Walking Dead made you think the worse of people. Though this show will get to that stuff soon enough. I wish we could watch Molly playthrough the Game.
Also the fact that people are trying to use the argument “What about the children?” because there is a gay romance that is kind of beautiful….meanwhile there was a nude corpse being sliced open, drugs, skulls being caved in with bare hands, smoking, alcohol, violence, people burning to death, etc none of that is an issue for children but a beautiful relationship between adults who love one another huge issue. Smh 🤦♂️. Pisses me off. I could understand if it were forced and didn’t make sense with the plot of game and the plans for the future of the show…but it wasn’t. Sure it was a little award baity but it definitely wasn’t forced or excessive in any way. The only agenda at play was a bit of representation and that is kind of just the norm. Gay people exist and they existed in the game so therefore they should be in the show based on the game.
I don’t know if anyone’s touched on this yet, but I love how most reactors don’t ever question how Joel knows what he knows. The assumption being that he survived an incident like that. But in greater likelihood, if you made it from Austin, Texas to Boston, Massachusetts, on foot you’re more than likely the person on the outside of the fence holding the bolt cutters. The more interesting thought truly though is math wise, Joel potentially spent just as many years being a raider as he did being a good father. So which Joel is the more real Joel?
I know it's Last of us but im seeing lyanna mormont of game of thrones having part 2 in this series when she's die in the hands of giant zombie in G.O.T. its like redemption in last of us hahah.
19:30 She was in FEDRA military school, I'm sure they taught her how to shoot. Probably a basic training thing for anyone old enough to hold a gun in military school within this world.
Suuuper late, but since dog's have a faster metabolism than humans their pills are stronger than ours. Greg Behrendt has a story about relapsing on dog pills and thinking it wasnt AS bad since its for dogs.
